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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:27 pm    Post subject: 14th July Bastille Day 2015 - Y DYDD RHYDD Reply with quote

Why prefer then English Law than_
The Natural Law when it now still can_
Criminalise brown skin with Attainder_
Sun-fining everyone - except the remainder_
Who live in Glyncorrwg and can't get a tan ?

- http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=2707#2707 -

May I ask if anybody cares to be picked or nicked ?


Laughing - one of the replies to the above -

" Hope you're ok Boyo ! As far as I'm aware there is no colour discrimination against any billionaires in this country. Unless of course they go after our Royals."


[ THAT TEXT TO MY FRIENDS CAN NOW SERVE AS A SORT OF PRE-POSTSCRIPT TO THIS AND IT RELATES TO PART OF WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN BELOW ... I AM ALMOST CERTAINLY HAVING ONE OF THOSE " SOMETHING MUST BE DONE " MOMENTS SO I DO NOT REALLY CARE AS TO WHETHER THIS MERELY TURNS OUT TO BE MYSELF SITTING THERE ALONE EXPLAINING BOTH SIDES OF THE SANDWICH TO A SOFT DRINK.] [ FOR THOSE IN THE UNITED STATES OF MEXICO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyncorrwg ]

For those who have not yet quite got the hang of my personality or my peculiar slant on Republicanism in Wales, I particularly adore the whole transitional phase from the mid 18c through to the mid 19c after which Modernist Republicanism emerged from Neo-Classical Republicsnism - and slap bang whizz in the middle of this were the great and now mostly forgotten characters of Republicanism in Wales and indeed The World : they have been reduced to nothing but obscure footnotes by Britishite historians because at that time Wales did not even have a local public library let alone The National Library of Wales - indeed Aberystwyth had not yet even been re-invented let alone acquired a university in order to justify itself having a railway station ... but long before you could ever purchase a return ticket to Paris from Llanfairpwllgwyngangwlio Wales was already intimately connected with The French Revolution of 1789 and The People in Wales were intoxicated with how well everything was going and how peaceful and political it all was - right up until it all started to go horribly wrong in 1793 ...

BUT BEFORE THAT EVERYBODY WAS HAVING A WONDERFUL TIME ALL OVER THE PLACE ALL OVER EUROPE - ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED UPON THE 14TH JULY 1789 - STARTING IN 1790 BY GETTING TOGETHER FOR PICK-NICK AND RE-DEDICATING THEMSELVES TO TRYING TO MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fête_de_la_Fédération - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastille_Day

... or as I have suggested in recent years, we should celebrate ' Bastille Day ' as ' La Fete Internationale ' and take a day off from the miserable grind of patiently collecting facts and presenting arguments to.The Democrats in Wales and find an hour or so to raise our eyes back to those horizons beyond which lie " Y Repwblic " before the bastards stamp on our heads once again and drive our faces back into The Dung of Demockeratic Defacators in Wales ... WE NEED A DAY OFF AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR - AND HELL WHY NOT TWO ? ... Cilmeri is fine for those who need to demonstrate their Nationalist inclinations by marching around in the freezing rain followed by a packet of crisps and a pint of lager ... but I for one prefer to express my Internationalist inclinations by sitting down in the warm sunshine to share a meal and bottle of wine : no speeches - just " Conversations with Wales' Republicans."

One way of saying having " The Day Off " in Welsh is having " Y Dydd Rhydd " which is an expression which literally means " The Free Day " but can be taken to mean " The Day of Freedom " - the day on which to think of yourself as " A Citizen of The Repwblic in Wales and The World " - and thus joined together with all of " The Republicans Who Celebrate Bastille Day " - " La Fete Internationale."

Now I like to ignore things like Christmas and birthdays because of The People who Expect Presents and because in my own life these events are associated with stress and misery : I have asked The People who are My Friends to ignore me on those occasions but to transfer their sentiments about them onto the one day which I think is worthwhile celebrating because it is not about The Person but The People ... Hence The People who are My Friends have this annual occasion upon which to complain about the food, the booze and the horrendous price of things in the various French restaurants in Cardiff which on and off lay on a Bastille Day menu and decorate their venue with tricoloures and thus make me feel so much more civilised even if they do not put up Y Trilliw. So as a sop to these parochial philistines and to invite the casual inquirer who was lurking outside of the window we were sat at last year I propose instead to just have a picknick in the place in Wales most obviously associated with The Republic in France and The World.

7pm PickNick at The David Williams Memorial - opposite Caerphilly Castle - and a pint later in The Court House ( or before if raining ) - for convivial public conversations.


[ 11/07/15 -I HAVE JUST INSERTED THIS ORIENTATION MAP LOWER DOWN THIS ENJOYABLE RAMBLING THREAD ]



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P.S. I guess that given the popularity of this thread, The People in London might want to find their way to Wales and you may not be sure as to where it is located. Actually, it is quite easy to find because there is a long straight road which leads directly to Wales and once you arrive it is quite adequately signposted, as I have demonstrated in this thread - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=2749#2749

If anybody is coming over from Cheltenham, would you be so kind as to offer my cousin a lift ? And how about bringing us a couple of bottles of bubbly too - as a gift to celebrate our pissing you off for over thirty years ? Surely you must know that it is so much easier to get to know anyone by simply behaving in a friendly and sociable way ? Easier than faking it.



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Mae'n wych citizen David.

I really liked your slant on the day of the revolution pity we cant do the same to ruling class in Westminster and the Bay.

Up the revolution I have an axe?

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;-)

Violence is not my idea of " revolution " but there are loads of people with axes to grind - because of the political system !

The pity of it is that the political system can be fixed if nothing else - but those who can not admit any fault will not listen.

Bloody Daf whinging that Tuesday night is pub quiz night ... now Daf fantasises about " revolution " to Gilbert & Sullivan !

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mikado - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdBzWPXu2Bo

Dear XXXX

if you want to grasp Daf's idea of The Revolution in Wales, it is likely to be something like that in Welsh national costume.

We have of course long squabbled over the nature of what revolution is really like - he is a traditionalist in this matter ...

... so he insists that I ought to play the role of High Executioner on the grounds that I am an ardent pacifist / pacificator ;

we naturally fall into the roles of Danton and Robespierre, because he is flambouyant and I tend to shoot my mouth off ...

... as to whether this Dydd Rhydd should be more than a pick-nick I am wondering as to whether given that it took 205 years to secure the modest amount of rather dodgy Human Rights that we presently have and within twenty years they may be gone again that somebody ought not at least make a public speech to mourn their almost immediate demise : the trouble is that this will probably convert the occasion into the sort of tedious event in which we have to invite the police ...

... personally, in the present economic climate I would count that as wasting police time and public money, but the South Wales Police do seem to have a vendetta to maintain against Republicans in Wales of all sorts and to feel that they ought to turn up and arrest somebody just for the sake of maintaining appearances and ingratiating themselves with the Labour & Cooperative Party who insist upon pretending to believe in Human Rights but absolutely detest the Republican political theories from which they are derived : it does not matter which kind of Democrat in Wales however, they all hate politics.

Y Dydd Rhydd however surely ought to be " The Day of Freedom ( from everything ) " and a sociable not political event ...

... but then again, perhaps I ought give this more thought - perhaps we could all be making our own little lists for the day ?

NOW THERE COULD BE A HAPPY PICK-NITTY PARTY GAME FOR Y DYDD RHYDD - EVERYBODY BRINGS THEIR OWN LIST !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-_m6EZ1SUk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NLV24qTnlg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgmKq97DiIc - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlOb0XMxt84

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW_Ukl71OH4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJJzGoyKH4c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A45xqLHccRo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X9tvMadfXU ( very original )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx7Rppo8l2g - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmtKHdptK0k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXfkCzcegiM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dC-W-jQhPE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOzNAKPCR80 - THE ORIGINAL SONG

http://lyrics.wikia.com/Gilbert_And_Sullivan:As_Some_Day_It_May_Happen

Ko-Ko:

As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list — I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed — who never would be missed !
There's the pestilential nuisances who write for autographs —
All people who have flabby hands and irritating laughs —
All children who are up in dates, and floor you with 'em flat —
All persons who in shaking hands, shake hands with you like that —
And all third persons who on spoiling tête-á-têtes insist —
They'd none of 'em be missed — they'd none of 'em be missed !


Chorus :

He's got 'em on the list — he's got 'em on the list;
And they'll none of 'em be missed — they'll none of 'em be missed.


Ko-Ko :

There's the banjo serenader, and the others of his race,
And the piano-organist — I've got him on the list !
And the people who eat peppermint and puff it in your face,
They never would be missed — they never would be missed !
Then the idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone,
All centuries but this, and every country but his own;
And the lady from the provinces, who dresses like a guy,
And who "doesn't think she dances, but would rather like to try";
And that singular anomaly, the lady novelist —
I don't think she'd be missed — I'm sure she'd not he missed !


Chorus :

He's got her on the list — he's got her on the list;
And I don't think she'll be missed — I'm sure she'll not be missed !


Ko-Ko :

And that
Nisi Prius nuisance, who just now is rather rife,
The Judicial humorist — I've got him on the list !
All funny fellows, comic men, and clowns of private life —
They'd none of 'em be missed — they'd none of 'em be missed.
And apologetic statesmen of a compromising kind,
Such as — What d'ye call him — Thing'em-bob, and likewise — Never-mind,
And 'St— 'st— 'st— and What's-his-name, and also You-know-who —
The task of filling up the blanks I'd rather leave to you.
But it really doesn't matter whom you put upon the list,
For they'd none of 'em be missed — they'd none of 'em be missed !


Chorus :

You may put 'em on the list — you may put 'em on the list ;
And they'll none of 'em be missed — they'll none of 'em be missed !


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisi_prius

" ... Before the reforms of the Judicature Act 1873, civil cases at common law were begun in one of the three courts that sat in Westminster Hall: the Court of Common Pleas, Court of Exchequer and King's Bench. Because of their historical origins, these courts were to some extent in competition, especially as their respective judges and officers lived off the fees deriving from them. Given that travel to London was an onerous burden during the medieval period, however, the Statute of Westminster II provided in 1285 for trial of fact in civil cases at the local assizes. Nisi prius translates as "if not sooner" or "if not before" in addition to "unless first": when the action was started in London, the sheriff was ordered to have the jurors there for trial on a certain day "unless before" ( nisi prius ) that day the case was heard at assize in the claimant's county. ... The nisi prius record was, before the Judicature Acts, the name of the formal copy of proceedings showing the history of the case up to the time of trial. After the trial it was endorsed with the postea, showing the result of the trial, and delivered by the officer of the court to the successful party, whose possession of the postea was his title to judgment. Since the Judicature Acts there is no nisi prius record in civil actions, the nearest approach to it being the deposit of copies of the statements of case for the use of the judge, and there is no postea, the certificate of the associate or Master as to the result of the trial superseding it. ... "

[ " THE LITTLE LIST " SONG IMPLIES IS THAT PEOPLE WILL BE TRIED AND THEN EXECUTED IN SECRET WITH NO RECORDS MADE - " THEY NEVER WILL BE MISSED !!! " ]

https://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/human-rights/justice-and-fair-trials/closed-courts-and-secret-evidence

" ... One of the most serious casualties of the ‘War on Terror’ was the ancient principle that justice should be done in public after hearing arguments from both parties. ... Even in cases where the answer might appear to be obvious there is a basic right to be heard and to challenge the evidence against you. Judges must be open to public scrutiny if they are to maintain confidence and authority. Both of these fundamental rights are now specifically protected in civil and criminal cases by Article 6 of the Human Rights Act. ... However, following the creation of the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (SIAC) in 1997, the idea of ‘secret justice’ has taken root in the UK. There is now effectively a parallel system of secret courts and secret evidence. ... "

GOSH ... COULD THIS BE WHY THE DEMOCRATS IN THE DIS-UNITED KINGDOM WANT TO BE RID OF THE EUROPEAN COURT AND THE HUMAN RIGHTS ACT ?

http://www.theguardian.com/law/2012/sep/25/secret-courts-the-essential-guide

" ... Critics of the bill fear that a host of security scandals unearthed with the help of court challenges, including allegations of torture and secret rendition, would never have been exposed under the bill's proposed system of closed material procedures. Even fundamental personal rights such as freedom from imprisonment, guaranteed by the ancient writ of habeas corpus, might be compromised by the new regime, peers have suggested. The fact that a court could sit in secret without giving notice to the public or the media of a forthcoming hearing has drawn comparisons with the excesses of privacy superinjunctions. ... The government says claimants will receive a summary of the closed material sufficient for them to instruct the special advocate representing their interests. ... [ I.E. YOU WILL BE FOUND GUILTY ON EVIDENCE AND STATEMENTS THAT NOBODY IS ALLOWED TO SEE : EVEN THE JUDGES MAY ONLY EVER GET TO SEE AN EMPTY ENVELOPE WITH THE WORD " GUILTY " WRITTEN ON IT ? ] ...


Surely we know all about such empty brown envelopes from the history of Republicanism in France - they were used to imprison people in the Bastille ... like this -



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lettre_de_cachet ... and The English Law in Wales was / is the more vicious - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_attainder

Lettres de cachet - " letters of the sign/signet " were letters signed by the king of France, countersigned by one of his ministers, and closed with the royal seal, or cachet. They contained orders directly from the king, often to enforce arbitrary actions and judgments that could not be appealed ... and it was by a lettre de cachet that the king ordered a parlement to register a law despite that parlement's refusal to pass it. ... the lettres de cachet were a prominent symbol of the abuses of the ancien régime monarchy, and as such were suppressed during the French Revolution ... but Napoleon reestablished their penal equivalent by a political measure in the decree of 8 March 1801 on the state prisons ... The principle can be traced to a maxim which furnished a text of the Pandects of Justinian : in their Latin version, "Rex solutus est a legibus", or "The king is released from the laws." ... The lettre de cachet belonged to the class of " lettres closes," [ SECRET ORDERS ] as opposed to lettres patentes, [ PUBLIC ORDERS ] ... serving the government as a silent weapon against political adversaries or dangerous writers and as a means of punishing culprits of high birth without the scandal of a lawsuit ... In the 18th century it is certain that the letters were often issued blank, i.e. without containing the name of the person against whom they were directed; the recipient, or mandatary, filled in the name in order to make the letter effective [ I.E. THEY COULD BE BARTERED WITH AS A LEGAL CURRENCY AND THOSE WHO OBTAINED THEM COULD IMPRISON INNOCENTS WITHOUT TRIAL AND THEN PLUNDER AND DESTROY THEIR PROPERTY AND FAMILIES.]

" ... Previously secret British War Cabinet papers released on 1 January 2006 have shown that ... British Prime Minister Winston Churchill had then advocated a policy of summary execution with the use of an Act of Attainder to circumvent legal obstacles. He was dissuaded by cabinet minister Richard Law who pointed out that the United States and Soviet Union still favoured trials ... [ YES : THE USSR HAD THE RULE OF LAW - AND THE UK STILL DOES NOT ! ] ... A bill of attainder ( also known as an act of attainder or writ of attainder or bill of pains and penalties ) is an act of a legislature declaring a person or group of persons guilty of some crime and punishing them without a trial ... The last use of attainder was in 1798 against Lord Edward FitzGerald for leading the Irish Rebellion of 1798 ... [ A NOBLE REPUBLICAN LEADER ] ... The United States Constitution forbids legislative bills of attainder under Article I, Section 9. The provision forbidding state law bills of attainder, Article I, Section 10, reflects the importance that the framers attached to this issue. ... Within the U.S. Constitution, the clauses forbidding attainder laws serve two purposes. First, they reinforced the separation of powers, by forbidding the legislature to perform judicial or executive functions—since the outcome of any such acts of legislature would of necessity take the form of a bill of attainder. Second, they embody the concept of due process, which was partially reinforced by the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. The text of the Constitution, Article I, Section 9; Clause 3 is "No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed". ... "


ABOUT FITZGERALD - A PROPER REPUBLICAN HISTORY BOOK - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Citizen-Lord-Edward-Fitzgerald-1763-98/dp/0099732114

STELLA TILLYARD'S OTHER BOOK ON CONTEMPORARY WOMEN - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aristocrats-Caroline-Emily-Louisa-Lennox/dp/0099477114


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Why celebrate David Williams on " Y Dydd Rhydd " - Bastille Day ? Well, I am not talking of this one - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_John_Williams - nor -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delwyn_Williams - nor - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Williams_(Swansea_politician) - nor - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Williams_(Merioneth) - nor - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._J._Williams_(politician)

- and on this occasion I am not talking about these two interesting contemporaries in 18c Republicanism in The World and Wales -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Maria_Williams - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iolo_Morganwg

- and Williams'es are of course to be found all over the place in politics and sport and and and - well, just think of them as " The Williams'es of Wales and The World." -

If you want to read a good book about this David Williams pay out £1.38 and read Whitney R D Jones' book " David Williams - The Anvil and The Hammer " -

http://www.amazon.co.uk/David-Williams-The-Anvil-Hammer/dp/0708309496



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Williams_(philosopher)

David Williams (1738 – 29 June 1816), was a Welsh philosopher of the Enlightenment period. He was an ordained minister, theologian and political polemicist, and was the founder in 1788 of the Royal Literary Fund.

Williams was born in a house called Waunwaelod in Eglwysilan [ I UNDERSTAND WAUNWAELOD TO BE IN WATFORD ] near Caerphilly ... His first publication, The Philosopher, in Three Conversations, 1771, ( dedicated to Lord Mansfield and Bishop Warburton ), containing a project of church reform, drew the attention of John Jebb. With the co-operation of John Lee, a proposal was set on foot for opening a chapel in London with an expurgated prayer-book. Williams was to draw attention to the plan through the public papers. His communications to the Public Advertiser republished as ' Essays on Public Worship, Patriotism, and Projects of Reformation, 1773,' were so deistic in tone as to put an end to the scheme. ... [ i.e. this was a take on Rousseaun Natural Religion - which probably influenced Iolo Morgannwg's ideas about Druids and Bards ] ... A taste for the drama led to his acquaintance with David Garrick ... In the Private Correspondence of David Garrick, 1831, is a letter (2 October 1772), signed D. Ws hinting that the published 'Letter' was by 'a young man who is making himself known us a first-rate genius.... His name is Williams. ... '

... In 1773 Williams took a house in Lawrence Street, Chelsea, married a wife without a fortune, and set up a school. ... Book-learning he subordinated to scientific training based on a first-hand knowledge of facts. He made a novel application of the drunken helot plan, obtaining from a workhouse a 'lying boy' as an object lesson. His school 'prospered beyond his expectations', but the death of his wife (in 1775?) for a time unmanned him. He tore himself away, 'leaving his scholars to shift for themselves', and 'secluded himself in a distant country' for 'many months'. He went to Buxton, according to some accounts; he never returned to Chelsea. ... In 1774 Benjamin Franklin 'took refuge from a political storm' in Williams's house, and became interested in his method of teaching arithmetic. Franklin joined a small club formed at Chelsea by Williams, the manufacturer Thomas Bentley (partner of Josiah Wedgwood), and James "Athenian" Stuart. ... It was noted at the club that most of the members, though 'good men', yet 'never went to church'. Franklin regretted the want of 'a rational form of devotion'. To supply this, Williams, with aid from Franklin, drew up a form. It was printed six times before it satisfied its projectors, and was eventually published as A Liturgy on the Universal Principles of Religion and Morality, 1776. It does not contain his reduction of the creed to one article, 'I believe in God. Amen'. ... The appellation 'Priest of Nature' is said to have been first given him by Franklin; 'Orpheus' ascribes it to 'a Socratic woollen-draper of Covent Garden'. Gregoire affirms that he had it from Williams that a number of his followers passed from deism to atheism. ...

... [ NOW THIS IS WHAT I THINK IS RELEVANT TO THE PRESENT MOMENT ] ... After the speech of Sir George Savile on 17 March 1779 in favour of an amendment of the Toleration Act, Williams published a letter on The Nature and Extent of Intellectual Liberty, 1779, claiming that religious toleration should be without restriction. It was answered by Manasseh Dawes. In the same year, and with the same object, he translated and published Voltaire's Treatise on Toleration, Ignorant Philosopher and Commentary on Beccaria. In 1780 he issued A Plan of Association on Constitutional Principles; and on the formation of county associations for parliamentary reform he published his Letters on Political Liberty (1782). This was translated into French the following year by Jacques Pierre Brissot, then in London conducting the Lyceum. Jean-Marie Roland, vicomte de la Platière, a friend of Brissot, visited London in 1784, when Williams made his acquaintance. ... [ BRISSOT WAS TO BECOME THE FRENCH REPUBLICAN LEADER - BUT HE WAS MURDERED BY THE FRENCH DEMOCRATS I.E. BY DANTON & ROBESPIERRE ]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Pierre_Brissot - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_of_31_May_–_2_June_1793#Aftermath

... The idea of a 'literary fund' to aid 'distressed talents' was again suggested by Williams in a club of six persons, formed on the discontinuance of his Sunday lectures (1780), and meeting at the Prince of Wales's coffee-house, Conduit Street. ... The death in a debtors' prison (1 April 1787) of Floyer Sydenham led Williams to press the matter. The club, not being unanimous, was dissolved, and another (of eight members) formed. At its first meeting (spring of 1788) the constitution of the Literary Fund, drawn up by Williams, was adopted, each member subscribing a guinea. An advertisement (10 May 1788) invited further subscriptions. The first general meeting to elect officers was held on Tuesday 18 May 1790 at the Prince of Wales's coffee-house. In the course of twelve years £1,738 was distributed among 105 persons. The society was incorporated 19 May 1818; in 1842 it became the Royal Literary Fund. By the close of the century it possessed an income exceeding £4,000, half from investments, and half from annual contributions. ...

[ THE MODERN RLF - http://www.rlf.org.uk - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Literary_Fund ]

... [ John Marie Roland, leader of the Girondist i.e. of the Republican faction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girondist ] ... invited Williams to Paris. He went over about August 1792, was made a French citizen, and remained till the execution ( 21 January 1793 ) of Louis XVI, a measure which he strongly deprecated. While in Paris he published ' Observations sur la derniere Constitution de la France,' 1793. He brought with him, on his return, a letter to William Grenville, 1st Baron Grenville, from Lebrun, minister of war, who wished to make Williams a medium of communication between the two governments; but no notice was taken of it. [ DAVID WILLIAMS AND JAMES TILLEY MATHEWS MADE STRENUOUS EFFORTS FOR PEACE ] ... After the peace of Amiens (1802) he again visited France. It was surmised that he had been entrusted with some confidential mission by the English government. Before leaving he had published Claims of Literature, 1802, an authorised account of the Literary Fund. On his return he issued one or two anonymous political tracts, showing, it is said, a diminished confidence in revolutionary methods. His authorship of some anonymous publications is doubtful. On internal evidence he is credited with Egeria, 1803, intended as a first volume of a periodical devoted to political economy. His pecuniary resources failed him. ... [ HE WAS GRANTED A SMALL INCOME BY THE RLF BUT HE DIED SOON AFTER ON 29 JUNE 1816 AND HE IS BURIED IN ST ANNE'S, SOHO, LONDON.]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Tilly_Matthews ... http://publicdomainreview.org/2014/11/12/illustrations-of-madness-james-tilly-matthews-and-the-air-loom/

I would like to mention here David Williams' associate : James Tilley Mathews was an unlucky man, and I have to express doubt as to his being as mad as others would dismiss him as - with prejudice, because it made them feel more comfortable and it was convenient in terms of propaganda against those who opposed the wars against The Republic in France to portray them as simply nuts ... but he did end up in an asylum for the insane and I have always favoured the point of view that in being intoxicated with the high idealism of Republicanism in Wales he could not cope with seeing that ideal smashed to pieces by The Democrats in France. Could we cope at all well with being in prison in a foreign country in the very crucible of a pan-European war and living in expectation of the very realpossibility that each and every day we might be dragged out to face execution before a baying mob who might even break into the prison and kill us ? No wonder James Tilley Mathews went mad - but paranoid schizophrenia ? Paranoid maybe, but most likely he was overwhelmed by some kind of post- or pre-traumatic stress disorder and left alone in his dark stinking prison cell with only himself to talk to he most probably translated the awful reality of his existence sideways into some kind of symbolic story which enabled him to cope emotionally - constantly re-iterating the story to distract himself in order to have a sense of being able to have some control over what must have amounted to an absolute and interminable terror.


http://mikejay.net/james-tilly-matthews-and-the-air-loom/ ... http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Air-Loom-Gang-Mike/dp/0553814850

" ... The Air Loom was being operated by a gang of undercover Jacobin revolutionaries, who had forced Britain into a disastrous war with Revolutionary France and were bent on maintaining hostilities between the two nations. These characters, too, Matthews could describe with eerie precision. They were led by their sadistic puppet-master and strategist, codenamed ‘Bill the King’; all details were recorded by his sarcastic and punctilious second-in-command, ‘Jack the Schoolmaster’. The French liaison was accomplished by a woman called Charlotte, who seemed to Matthews to be as much a prisoner as himself, and was often chained up near-naked. ‘Sir Archy’ was a woman who dressed as a rough, uncouth man and spoke in obscenities; the machine itself was operated by the sinister, pockmarked and nameless ‘Glove Woman’. When Matthews slept, this gang materialised in his dreams, ‘forcing their phantoms and grotesque images on his languid intellect’ and gathering the secret information they needed to plot his assailment for the following day. ... But the gang’s activity was not directed solely at Matthews; rather, he was the only witness to a conspiracy that had already engulfed Europe. There were many Air Loom gangs all over London, influencing the minds of politicians and public figures, and with a particularly firm grasp of the Prime Minister, William Pitt, whom they could puppet like a child’s toy whenever he addressed Parliament. In Paris, too, the French Directory was being manipulated by Air Looms, as were the crowned heads of Prussia and beyond. By poisoning the minds of politicians on both sides of the Channel with suspicious and belligerent ‘brain-sayings’, the gangs were threatening national and international catastrophe. They were everywhere, lurking in streets, theatres and coffee-houses, where they tricked the unsuspecting into inhaling the magnetic fluid that would place them under the control of the Air Loom, and they carried magnetic batons that they could grasp to make themselves invisible if they were discovered. ... "

- [ YOU THINK THAT I AM MAD FOR BEING AMUSED BY THIS ? HAVE NOT THE DEMOCRATS BEEN RECENTLY CULTIVATING SIMILAR DELUSIONS IN ORDER TO GET VOTES ? ] -


http://www.theairloom.org/text.html ... http://www.theairloom.org/images.html ...

" ... Nearly 200 years after Haslam published Matthews' writings and drawings, the Air Loom finally does exist ... If Matthews vision was a precursor to secretive CIA projects, then it also seems fitting that his vision, the Air Loom, was first built in the 21st century. ... "



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David Williams was a lucky man : his literary circle included religious and political radicals but he was also linked to people who protected him, whereas others were not so lucky ... his contemporaries faced harassment, arrest and prosecutions which led those who were not so gentile to the scaffold in " The English Terror " which mirrored " The French Terror " and also started in the 1790s but continued thereafter for decades with laws which gagged the press and suppressed the entirely legitimate activities of Trade Unions and and Friendly Societies let alone religious and political radicalism : many of these laws took centuries to remove from the statute books, such as the laws of Sedition and Seditious Libel which were only finally ended by the Coroners and Justice Act 2009 ... excepting that some have argued that the Terrorism Act 2000 is not about terrorism at all and is a far more wide ranging and dangerous law than Sedition and Seditious Libel ever were e.g. if a Home Secretary decided to list " repWblic " as a proscribed group then there is little that I could do about it because The United Kingdom is not founded upon The Rule of Law i.e. it is not a Republican Political System and it does not have The Separation of Powers and so The Demockerats do not have to publicly go into a court room and prosecute anybody, producing any evidence or arguments : they simply declare those that they do not agree with to be criminals and then persecute them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coroners_and_Justice_Act_2009 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_Act_2000

This leaves us to try to defend ourselves against a legal system which is predicated upon having access to huge sums of money. For example : The Demockerats in control of The United Kingdom have basically declared the expression of Christian beliefs to be illegal, and some recent examples of this have been some ruinously expensive court cases for those who sincerely hold Christian beliefs about homosexuality and politely expressed them when the issue came up - WHEN THE ISSUE CAME UP : THEY DID NOT GO AROUND FORCING THEIR OPINIONS UPON OTHER PEOPLE OR TRYING TO GET HOMOSEXUALS TO AGREE TO THEIR BELIEF THAT THEY ARE SINFUL. [ AND BEFORE ANYBODY TRIES TO DENOUNCE ME FOR THIS - I AM NOT HOMO-PHOBIC AND MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ARE OBNOXIOUS TO JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY OF EVERY CONVENTIONAL FAITH.] I THINK THAT WHILST MOST OF MY HOMOSEXUAL FRIENDS ARE UNCOMFORTABLE TO BE TOLD TO THEIR FACES THAT THEY ARE SINNERS, THEY WOULD NOT WANT THOSE PEOPLE WHO HOLD SUCH BELIEFS TO BE PROSECUTED FOR THEM - IT IS JUST A HORRIBLE INVERSION OF THE LAWS THAT ONLY FIFTY YEARS AGO NOT ONLY HARMED HOMOSEXUALS BY PROSECUTING THEM BUT WHICH LICENCED OTHERS TO BE PREJUDICED AGAINST THEM, AS IS NOW HAPPENING TO CHRISTIANS.

Here then is the difference between the way in which The United Kingdom is now promoting prejudiced behaviour towards Christians in the same way that it did against Homosexuals : it is not a Modern Political System founded upon the promotion of consenting relationships in which The Law is primarily advisory, but a Feudal Political System founded upon the promotion of coercing relationships in which The Law is primarily punitive - and not framed in terms of promoting justice but in terms of imposing the will of those who have acquired temporary power over the state ... which is why laws so often come onto and are then dragged off of the statute book in a five yearly cycle ... only so often what are in effect arbitrary and unjust laws are left on the statute book on the off-chance that they will prove useful in persecuting The People Whom The Demockerats Do Not Like This Year ... e.g. originally there were no laws against homosexuality and the only law extant against it in medieval times was that it was considered to be a treason to bugger The Prince of Wales. Now personally I find anal sex - homosexual or heterosexual - to be a repulsive thing myself, but if Prince Charles can find somebody to bugger him then I see not reason to refuse him given that he really has such few pleasures in his rather limited life. Certainly I feel able to assure everybody that if I wanted to commit treason I would definitely consider some other method, but in all such instances - despite my enjoyment of Dafydd's pleasure in singing Gilbert & Sullivan songs - I want to be able to commit treason by consent and not merely to wake up one morning and discover that the Home Secretary has merely added me to his Little List ... on the other hand, do you think that if Prince Charles wrote that Domestic Sectary one of his polite letters, full of facts and arguments set out on my behalf, do you think that as Wales' Foremost Republican they might defer to him and he might get to bugger at least one or two of the Demockerats in the Dis-United Kingdom ? Perhaps even, once they have finished buying and selling their votes, the leaders of each of these Demoncratic Parties ?

These proscriptions are not " Chwarae Teg " at all but just typical of the Demockerats in The Dis-United Kingdom : they are taking all of the fun out of Treason in Wales.

Prejudice is a poisoned drink -
We should be critical of how we think :
We're all in some minority
That could by some majority
Be criminalised and sent to Clink !


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fête_de_la_Fédération ...

The Fête de la Fédération of the 14 July 1790 was a celebration to commemorate the first anniversary of the Storming of the Bastille and the unity of the French Nation. ... The National Assembly approved the suggestion by the Commune de Paris to organise a "general Federation". Organised late, it was largely an improvisation. The idea was to show the general will for stable institutions and a national reconciliation and unity. In the words of Jean Sylvain Bailly, astronomer and mayor of Paris : " We suggest that this meeting (...) be sworn on the next 14 July, which we shall all see as the time of liberty: this day shall be spent swearing to uphold and defend it."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastille_Day

The Fête de la Fédération on the 14 July 1790 was a celebration the unity of the French Nation during the French Revolution. The aim of this Celebration was to symbolize Peace one year after the Storming of the Bastille. The event took place on the Champ de Mars, which was at the time far outside Paris. The place had been transformed on a voluntary basis by the population of Paris itself, in what was recalled as the Journée des brouettes ( " Wheelbarrow Day." ) [ DAFYDD HAS FORBIDDEN ME TO TO USE A WHEELBARROW ] ... A mass was celebrated by Talleyrand, bishop of Autun. The popular General Lafayette, as captain of the National Guard of Paris and confidant of the king, took his oath to the constitution, followed by King Louis XVI. After the end of the official celebration, the day ended in a huge four-day popular feast and people celebrated with fireworks, as well as fine wine and running naked through the streets in order to display their great freedom. [ THIS HAS PROVED TO BE UNPOPULAR IN WALES - BUT YOU CAN TRY IT IN ENGLAND.]

Bastille Day is the name given in English-speaking countries to the French National Day, which is celebrated on 14 July each year. In France, it is formally called La Fête nationale ; The National Celebration) and commonly Le quatorze juillet ; the fourteenth of July). ... The French National Day commemorates the beginning of the French Revolution with the Storming of the Bastille on 14 July 1789, as well as the Fête de la Fédération which celebrated the unity of the French people on 14 July 1790. Celebrations are held throughout France. The oldest and largest regular military parade in Europe is held on the morning of 14 July, on the Champs-Élysées in Paris in front of the President of the Republic, along with other French officials and foreign guests ... [ ... BUT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT CELEBRATING PEACE AND INTERNATIONALISM - ! - UNTIL THE UNITED KINGDOM ATTACKED THEM INTERNATIONALLY ... ]

... ANYWAY ... WE ALL KNOW ... SOME OF US KNOW ... WHAT THE FRENCH WILL BE DOING ON LE QUATORZE JUILLET ... BUT WHAT ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE ? ...

Edinburgh continues recalls the days of the Auld Alliance between Scotland and France with its annual Bastille Day celebration, which is often second only those of Paris.

London has a large French contingent, and celebrates Bastille Day at various locations including Battersea Park, Camden Town and Kentish Town.

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http://www.londontown.com/LondonEvents/Bastille-Day-Festival/dcebf/

Bastille Day, 14th July, falls on a Tuesday this year so London celebrates France's national day with a free festival on Sunday 12th. Taking place at Borough Market and the surrounding streets, the Bastille Day Festival, a celebration of all things French, gives us Londoners an excuse to enjoy the culinary heritage of our French friends (yum) through tastings and a French themed demonstration kitchen. A fun filled programme of activities includes street entertainment, a traditional 14th July Waiters' Race, Petanque, an artisan craft market selling gifts and books, creative workshops, party games, bi-lingual storytelling, face painting and (in the true spirit of the French revolution) a guillotine provided by The London Tombs. Festivities will continue into the night with the Bal Populaire, a traditional French style open air party, until 10pm.



http://www.getmemedia.com/ideas/sponsorship-of-bastille-day-in-london-2015/brandmeetsbrand.html

Bastille Festival in London takes place on Bankside on Sun 12th July & is the largest London celebration of the French national day. Now in its 7th successful year, the event includes French food & drink, music, street entertainers, performance & "Le Bal Populaire" - an evening party in Borough Market. Other activities include waiter's races, film screenings, product sampling, table football tournaments, cycling activities & boules. The festival is family friendly, with activities throughout the day, including story telling, face painting & events.

https://goongoout.com/uk/hampshire/portsmouth/event/the-dolphin-hotel-old-portsmouth-portsmouth-piaf-centenary-bastille-day-dinner-cabaret/

THE DOLPHIN presents - Piaf Centenary - Bastille Day Dinner & Cabaret - [ the kind of restaurant that my friends complain about - in Portsmouth ]

http://www.lagarrigue.co.uk/events.html

Bastille Day - 14th July - A special evening to celebrate the French National Day commemorating the beginning of the French Revolution with the Storming of the Bastille on 14 July 1789. [ La Garrigue - a restaurant in Edinburgh.]

http://www.designmynight.com/london/bars/kensington/the-roof-gardens/bastille-day-party

Come join us for our annual BASTILLE DAY PARTY ! - Friday 10 July 2015 - ? - Cocktails are available on a strictly first come, first served basis, are served only before 9pm, and are subject to availability ... [ SOD THAT ! ]

... THAT IS VERY LAME THIS YEAR ... AND THE PROBLEM IN WALES IS THAT THE LABOUR & COOPERATIVE GOVERNMENT FEARS ANYTHING TO DO WITH REPUBLICANISM ...

http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/Ambassador-Bermann-in-official



BŴ - !!!



IN THE PAST MY FRIENDS HAVE COMPLAINED OF BEING " DRAGGED OFF " TO FRENCH RESTAURANTS BUT RATHER HAVE BEEN COAXED INTO " CAFE ROUGE " AND " PIERRE'S " WHICH ARE REALLY ONLY FRENCHIFIED VERSIONS OF MACDONALDS WHICH TART THEMSELVES UP WITH TRICOLOURES AND DO A BASTILLE DAY MENU ... BUT APPARENTLY THIS YEAR ARE - DOING NOTHING ? HAS THE UNITED KINGDOM GOVERNMENT BEEN ON TO THEM ? ... AS I MENTIONED ABOVE, BASTILLE DAY SEEMS TO BE A BIT LAME ALL OVER THIS YEAR ...

http://www.prweek.com/article/213786/cafe-rouge-bids-assert-french-links - June 18, 2004

Café Rouge is to reinforce its French heritage with a series of events that will target the regional media. ... PR activity developed by Westbury Communications centres on events with a French association, such as National Kissing Day on 6 July, to attract the attention of food and lifestyle writers. ... [ OH - VERY BLOODY FRENCH ] ... The campaign will, however, steer clear of Bastille Day. ... [ WHY ? ] ... ‘Journalists have never been that keen on countries’ national days. You need to be a bit more imaginative than that,’ said Westbury managing director Sue Harris. ‘We have three or four additional promotions like this throughout the year.’ ... [ [ OH - HOW WILL THESE PEOPLE RE-THEME CHRISTMAS ? ] ... Westbury was appointed in February for a project around National Escargot Day on 24 May, but since June has been retained as Tragus’s first consumer PR agency for Café Rouge. ... [ EVER WANT TO KILL A MORON ? ]

http://lebistrotpierre.co.uk/news-social/fete-de-la-bastille-tuesday-14th-july - BETTER ! -

Fête de la Bastille - Tuesday 14th July

On Tuesday 14th July, it's Bastille Day and as we do every year, we'll be cooking up a vibrant party atmosphere in each of our bistrots. ... We've pulled together a special 'Menu de Fête' for the day, offering some of our favourite French dishes. You can enjoy 2 courses for £17.95 between 5.30pm & 7.00pm 2/4 courses for £19.95 /£23.95 after 7pm. You can download a copy of our menu below. ... Our staff (and bistrots) will be dressed to impress and we'd love you to join in. Come dressed in you best French inspired outfits and the 'best dressed' will win a meal for 2 people and a bottle of Cuvée 94. Last year, we were overwhelmed by the number of customers who joined in the fun, picking the winners was a tricky task! ... We'd love to see you celebrate the French National Day with us, Vive La France et a bientôt!

http://lebistrotpierre.co.uk/assets/lbp/cms/raw/34b3947ee8c83b6bae1c2fbec5487e04.pdf

MENU FÊTE DE LA BASTILLE

5.30pm to 7.00pm two courses 17.95 / 7.00pm onwards two courses 19.95 / four courses 23.95

A glass of Veuve Devienne, Vin Mousseux NV, 12%

Croquettes de crabe : Pan-fried crab cake with wilted baby spinach, creamy dill dressing and radish sprouts

Epaule d’agneau à la Marocaine : Moroccan spiced slow-cooked shoulder of lamb with toasted pine nuts, pearl couscous, mint, harissa and dried apricots

Méli mélo de framboise et meringue : Raspberry and cream ice cream with fresh raspberries, crushed meringue, soft marshmallows, pistachios and raspberry coulis

NOW IF YOU'VE GOT ANY SENSE AT THE END OF THE 14TH YOU WILL BE RELAXING DOWN IN CARDIFF SAVOURING A GAULOISE OVER A COFFEE AFTER A PLEASANT MEAL LIKE THAT AND SAT IN THE SUNSHINE ... WHEREAS IDIOT HERE WILL BE SAT IN THE RAIN WITH HIS MARMITE SANDWICHES AND CAN OF VIMTO SAVOURING MY GRUMBLE PIE OVER A SOGGY ROLLY AND ... OH ... REALLY - ARE THE PEOPLE IN WALES REALLY WORTH MISSING A HALF-DECENT MEAL FOR ... DO I HAVE TO LIVE ON CHEESE ON TOAST, BEANS ON TOAST, EGG ON TOAST, TOAST ON TOAST - ALL YEAR ROUND - JUST FOR THE SAKE OF REPWBLICANISM IN WALES ?
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102 views of this thread already ? ... I do hope that I have not started a revolution or anything - I am definitely not ready ... yet ... please wait until Y Dydd Rhydd !

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=2711 - http://www.pub-explorer.com/southwales/pub/courthousecaerphilly.htm - https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Courthouse/156082101086673

That is not ready yet either but having lost half a night's sleep over the end of it I have now lost the other half wondering as to whether we ought to sing a song or two to pass the time when we end up in the pub when The Cyclone arrives ... personally I hate even speaking in French ( or Welsh ) in public let alone singing -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIzzugI7Tdo - but some see singing as a form of resistance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM-E2H1ChJM

Now one of the notable things about early Welsh Choral Singing is that we popularised ' The Marseillaise in Wales ' which really annoyed The English Choralist Party - but to my shame I now realise that the following thread has been laying around unfinished for over two years and frankly I am now dreading the library fine -

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=610 - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1068 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFNWlL7PsDI

I do however much prefer those more agreeable sentiments of " YR UNDEB RHYNGWLADOL " to the usual ones in " THE INTERNATIONALE."

https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yr_Undeb_Rhyngwladol - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8pcP8c5tUQ

YR UNDEB RHYNGWLADOL

Deffrowch, orthrymedigion daear,
Cyfodi mae'r newynog lu
Daw gwirioneddau'r bywyd newydd
I chwalu niwl yr oesoedd fu.
Wele gaethion y cystudd hirfaith
Yn ymuno'n fyddin fawr,
I gyhoeddi rhyddid i'r cenhedloedd
Ac i'r ddynolryw doriad gwawr.

Henffych weithwyr y gwledydd,
Dyma'r frwydr ola'i gyd;
Mae'r Undeb Rhyngwladol
yn newydd seiliau'r byd.
Henffych weithwyr y gwledydd,
Dyma'r frwydr ola'i gyd;
Mae'r Undeb Rhyngwladol
yn newydd seiliau'r byd.
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I really ought to be doing other things, but then I also really ought to get around to explaining why David Williams was so important in 1792 and is now so important again in 2015 before I go off and do them ... the trouble is that so many people's ideas about Republicanism in Wales come out of the propaganda made against it by citing what happened in Ireland ( because they do not know that they do not understand ) and what happened in France ( because they do not know that they do not understand ) BUT - notably - they very rarely ever cite what happened in America ( because they think that they understand Americans and they like everything about them like hot-dogs and Mickey Mouse and burgers and T-shirts ... because they do not understand ) ... etc ... etc ... and they equate the idea of " revolution " with the violent overthrow of governments by murderous lawless " revolutionaries " because such events are labeled " revolution " by The United Kingdom and so of course nobody wants to be murdered so everybody who does not understand sagely nods their heads and feels good about themselves because although they are having their faces ground into the dirt they can at least comfort themselves that this must be better than " revolution " or that other even worse thing which is responsible for " revolutions " - thinking !

So think on this : what The Democrats in The United Kingdom label " revolution " is the exact opposite of the concept labeled as " revolution " by Republicans.

The reason why The French Revolution of 1789 was celebrated at La Fete Nationale in 1790 was because unlike The American Revolution of 1776 it was peaceful.

After 1790 things began to go wrong, mostly because it was difficult to do politics when everybody at home was starving and everybody from abroad was attacking.

But politics is not about events but ideas - it is not about breaking laws but making laws, and therefore revolutions are made with pens : swords only make " stases."

David Williams wielded the pen which wrote the draught of this document - this is what a " revolution " looks like - then he hurried back to London to argue for peace.

As mentioned above, the original " Stop The War Coalition - 1792 " was David Williams and James Tilley Mathews : their actions created the modern peace movement.

This then is the political problem of the modern peace movement in Wales : through historical circumstances it has become dislocated from its roots in Republicanism.

Compare then the The Republicans in Wales with The Democrats in Wales : we only offer you facts and arguments - they only offer you bribes and threats !

Which of these are advocating Truth, Love, Freedom, Peace - and Life ? Which of these have been practising Lies, Hatred, Enslavement, War - and Death ?

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[ NOTE THE ORDER OF COLOURS IN THE FLAGS OF 1792 : " RED WHITE BLUE " - " BLUE WHITE RED " RESULTED FROM THE FLAG BEING REVERSED IN 1794 ]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_Man_and_Citizen_of_1793

The Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen of 1793 (French: Déclaration des droits de l'Homme et du citoyen de 1793) is a French political document that was never officially adopted. It was written by the commission that included Louis Antoine Léon de Saint-Just and Marie-Jean Hérault de Séchelles during the period of the French Revolution. The main distinction between the Declaration of 1793 and the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen of 1789 is its egalitarian tendency: equality is the prevailing right in this declaration. The 1793 version included new rights, and revisions to prior ones: to work, to public assistance, to education, and to resist oppression.


http://www.columbia.edu/~iw6/docs/dec1793.html

Source: Frank Maloy Anderson, ed., The Constitutions and Other Select Documents Illustrative of the History of France 1789­1901 ( Minneapolis: H. W. Wilson, 1904,) 170­74. Reprinted in Liberty, Equality, Fraternity: Exploring the French Revolution, Jack R. Censer and Lynn Hunt, eds. ( American Social History Productions, 2001 )

Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen from the Constitution of Year I ( 1793 )

The French people, convinced that forgetfulness and contempts of the natural rights of man are the sole causes of the miseries of the world, have resolved to set forth in a solemn declaration these sacred and inalienable rights, in order that all the citizens, being able to compare unceasingly the acts of the government with the aim of every social institution, may never allow themselves to be oppressed and debased by tyranny; and in order that the people may always have before their eyes the foundations of their liberty and their welfare, the magistrate the rule of his duties, the legislator the purpose of his commission.

In consequence, it proclaims in the presence of the supreme being the following declaration of the rights of man and citizen.

1. The aim of society is the common welfare. Government is instituted in order to guarantee to man the enjoyment of his natural and imprescriptible rights.

2. These rights are equality, liberty, security, and property.

3. All men are equal by nature and before the law.

4. Law is the free and solemn expression of the general will; it is the same for all, whether it protects or punishes; it can command only what is just and useful to society; it can forbid only what is injurious to it.

5. All citizens are equally eligible to public employments. Free peoples know no other grounds for preference in their elections than virtue and talent.

6. Liberty is the power that belongs to man to do whatever is not injurious to the rights of others; it has nature for its principle, justice for its rule, law for its defense; its moral limit is in this maxim: Do not do to another that which you do not wish should be done to you.

7. The right to express one's thoughts and opinions by means of the press or in any other manner, the right to assemble peaceably, the free pursuit of religion, cannot be forbidden.

The necessity of enunciating these rights supposes either the presence or the fresh recollection of despotism.

8. Security consists in the protection afforded by society to each of its members for the preservation of his person, his rights, and his property.

9. The law ought to protect public and personal liberty against the oppression of those who govern.

10. No one ought to be accused, arrested, or detained except in the cases determined by law and according to the forms that it has prescribed. Any citizen summoned or seized by the authority of the law, ought to obey immediately; he makes himself guilty by resistance.

11. Any act done against man outside of the cases and without the forms that the law determines is arbitrary and tyrannical; the one against whom it may be intended to be executed by violence has the right to repel it by force.

12. Those who may incite, expedite, subscribe to, execute or cause to be executed arbitrary legal instruments are guilty and ought to be punished.

13. Every man being presumed innocent until he has been pronounced guilty, if it is thought indispensable to arrest him, all severity that may not be necessary to secure his person ought to be strictly repressed by law.

14. No one ought to be tried and punished except after having been heard or legally summoned, and except in virtue of a law promulgated prior to the offense. The law which would punish offenses committed before it existed would be a tyranny: the retroactive effect given to the law would be a crime.

15. The law ought to impose only penalties that are strictly and obviously necessary: the punishments ought to be proportionate to the offense and useful to society.

16. The right of property is that which belongs to every citizen to enjoy, and to dispose at his pleasure of his goods, income, and of the fruits of his labor and his skill.

17. No kind of labor, tillage, or commerce can be forbidden to the skill of the citizens.

18. Every man can contract his services and his time, but he cannot sell himself nor be sold: his person is not an alienable property. The law knows of no such thing as the status of servant; there can exist only a contract for services and compensation between the man who works and the one who employs him.

19. No one can be deprived of the least portion of his property without his consent, unless a legally established public necessity requires it, and upon condition of a just and prior compensation.

20. No tax can be imposed except for the general advantage. All citizens have the right to participate in the establishment of taxes, to watch over the employment of them, and to cause an account of them to be rendered.

21. Public relief is a sacred debt. Society owes maintenance to unfortunate citizens, either procuring work for them or in providing the means of existence for those who are unable to labor.

22. Education is needed by all. Society ought to favor with all its power the advancement of the public reason and to put education at the door of every citizen.

23. The social guarantee consists in the action of all to secure to each the enjoyment and the maintenance of his rights: this guarantee rests upon the national sovereignty.

24. It cannot exist if the limits of public functions are not clearly determined by law and if the responsibility of all the functionaries is not secured.

25. The sovereignty resides in the people; it is one and indivisible, imprescriptible, and inalienable.

26. No portion of the people can exercise the power of the entire people, but each section of the sovereign, in assembly, ought to enjoy the right to express its will with entire freedom.

27. Let any person who may usurp the sovereignty be instantly put to death by free men.

28. A people has always the right to review, to reform, and to alter its constitution. One generation cannot subject to its law the future generations.

29. Each citizen has an equal right to participate in the formation of the law and in the selection of his mandatories or his agents.

30. Public functions are necessarily temporary; they cannot be considered as distinctions or rewards, but as duties.

31. The offenses of the representatives of the people and of its agents ought never to go unpunished. No one has the right to claim for himself more inviolability than other citizens.

32. The right to present petitions to the depositories of the public authority cannot in any case be forbidden, suspended, nor limited.

33. Resistance to oppression is the consequence of the other rights of man.

34. There is oppression against the social body when a single one of its members is oppressed: there is oppression against each member when the social body is oppressed.

35. When the government violates the rights of the people, insurrection is for the people and for each portion of the people the most sacred of rights and the most indispensable of duties.

POST-SCRIPT : I ACTUALLY WROTE A NOTE LIKE THIS BEFORE AGAINST [ 35 ] AND IT HAS DISAPPEARED ... I envisaged some lame nutter declaring that my publishing [ 35 ] was a surreptitious incitement for insurrection : the above is an historical document and it is not to be bawdlerised but discussed - and probably the first thing to remark upon is that this is as finally published in 1793 long after David Williams had departed back to London clutching his draught ( and for those sceptics who think that this historical connection between The Republicans in Wales and The Republicans in France in the 1790s is exagerated I will try to get around to scanning a portion of that draught from Whitney R D Jones' book.) The conception in [ 35 ] reflects what was going on at the time it was written and it clearly is Republican in character : it offers no licence other than that required to restore The Rule of Law which is necessary to re-establish these Human Rights and [ 35 ] is the last clause because it is the permission to reach for the remedy of last resort - and it is not regarded as a political remedy either, it is a desperate one and it is strictly prohibited when political remedies are still available and it is to be deplored even when they are not. In an armed struggle, victory goes to those who deal out the most violence and then they can only continue to govern a society through the methods by which they obtained control over it. If you think that you can always get what you want through violence then what use have you for facts and arguments ? Why even bother with dodgy dossiers ? Kill those who oppose you and make sure that those too frightened to criticise you praise you as a " peace-maker."

As President For Eternal Life in The Serenely Blissful Republic of X, politics is for you not just a waste of your time but it is also an activity which threatens you with the possibility that you will have to concede that you are not all-powerful with a gun in your hand because you have become dependent upon making others provide what you want : all you know is how to do violence and so you have no knowledge of how to successfully govern the society which you have seized control over and so things start to go wrong and people will not tell you why because everybody desperately wants to please you and so they try to conceal things from you so that you do not become frightened but you know that they are talking about you behind your back so you try to be nice to everybody - everybody knows that you are nice because you tell everybody that you are nice and they say that you are nice ... and if anything goes wrong then it can not possibly be your fault ... therefore it must the fault of the people who dare to tell you that anything has gone wrong in your ... Monarchy ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillotine ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_of_Public_Safety

... And these were the political circumstances in The Kingdom of France in the 18c and why The Republicans in France ( The Girondins ) were not interested in holding The King of France personally responsible, because they were Altruists who were desperately trying to fix a long-broken political system whilst under siege from Ultraists on all sides - but The Ultraists known as The Democrats in France ( The Jacobins ) schemed to seize control of The National Assembly and sent The Royal Family to the guillotine to win the support of The People in France to whom they promised bread, but they proved to be incompetent to govern and so they progressively blamed The Monarchy, The Aristocracy, The Hierarchy, The Republicans who tried to explain their mistakes to them, The Wrong Kinds of Democrats who might try to seize power from themselves - The True Democrats : Destined To Rule The World !!! ... Until The Final Reign of The Red Terror of The Jacobin Monarchy was finally brought to an abrupt end when Maximilian The First Citizen was shot through the jaw to shut him up and then Mr Robespierre was fed into the jaw of Mr Guillotin ... and The Reign of The White Terror began ... yeah ... and when they raised The White Flag which had been the flag of The French Kingdom they did so in symbolic rejection of the Jacobins red-white-blue tricolour, but later they compromised and symbolised this by reversing it to blue-white-red.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermidorian_Reaction

" The Whites " therefore were desperate to stop France descending into a civil war whilst beset by foreign armies and so the remains of The Republicans in France ( The Girondins ) and others saved the French Republic by resorting to fighting the fire of the The Democrats in France ( The Jacobins ) by kindling another fire from the spark in clause [ 35 ] which might well otherwise be known as -

" The Right to Refuse to Submit to Terrorism "


NOTE - The Committee for Public Safety for The Republic in Wales has banned the use of all foreign Guillotines in favour of The Welsh National Safety Guillotine.

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POST-SCRIPT : OBVIOUSLY DAVID WILLIAMS DID NOT COMPOSE ALL OF THAT [ AND MOST OF THE FINAL PHRASING WAS PROBABLY BY HERAULT DE SECHELLES ] BUT AMONGST SEVERAL OTHERS HE WAS INVITED OVER TO PARIS TO JOIN THE COMMITTEE ON ACCOUNT OF HIS PROMINENCE AS A POLITICAL COMMENTATOR AS WAS THE ENGLISH WRITER THOMAS PAINE. THEY DISAGREED WITH A LOT OF WHAT THEY HEARD BEING DISCUSSED BUT NEVER THE LESS DAVID WILLIAMS ACCEPTED SAME THE ROLE AS JEFFERSON HAD HAD IN DRAUGHTING THE ACCOUNT OF WHAT WAS BEING AGREED. WHEN THE KING OF FRANCE WAS PUT ON TRIAL FOR COLLUDING WITH FOREIGN POWERS TO INVADE HIS OWN KINGDOM ( CHARLES 1st AND JAMES 2nd WERE CHARGED WITH SIMILAR ALEGATIONS ) THOMAS PAINE PLEADED IN THE ASSEMBLY OF THE FRENCH REPUBLIC FOR THE KING'S LIFE AND IMMEDIATELY FOUND HIMSELF VICIOUSLY DENOUNCED AND LATER ARRESTED IMPRISONED, AS WAS TILLEY DENOUNCED AND IMPRISONED, EACH ACCUSED OF BEING ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE AND THE REPUBLIC.

DAVID WILLIAMS WAS ALSO DENOUNCED FOR DISAGREEING WITH THE EXECUTION OF THE KING BUT HE HAD HURRIED BACK TO LONDON BEFORE THE EXECUTION TOOK PLACE BRINGING WITH HIM HIS FIRST DRAUGHT OF " THE DECLARATION OF THE RIGHTS OF MAN AND THE CITIZEN " AS A MEANS TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT FOR PEACE ... BUT HE AND SO MANY OTHERS IN THE PEACE MOVEMENT OF THE 1790S NOT ONLY FAILED BUT FOUND THEMSELVES BEING DENOUNCED AS TRAITORS , SINCE AS REPUBLICANS THEY SUPPORTED THE SAME PRINCIPLES AS THE FRENCH REPUBLIC AND THEY WERE MAKING ARGUMENTS FOR BOTH HUMAN RIGHTS AND POLITICAL REFORMS. THE INTRODUCTION OF " THE ENGLISH TERROR " IN WHICH THE UNITED KINGDOM SIMPLY HANGED ITS POLITICAL CRITICS FOR POINTING OUT THAT ITS " DEMOCRACY " WAS DEFECTIVE AND THUS COULD NOT POSSIBLY RESULT IN ANY KIND OF A JUST GOVERNMENT PROVOKED WHAT IT MAY WELL HAVE BEEN CALCULATED TO PROVOKE : A VIOLENT UPRISING TO EXCUSE A SEVERE REPRESSION.

TO THE SHOCK OF THOSE WHO HAD INHERITED THE UNITED KINGDOM AS A POLITICAL SYSTEM WHICH CONTROLLED A GLOBAL EMPIRE AND HAD BEEN FOUNDED BY BANDITS INVADING ENGLAND IN 1066, IT WAS TO WALES - WHICH THEY ASSUMED TO BE THE MOST WEAK AND LEAST REBELLIOUS OF THEIR POSSESSIONS - THAT " LA LEGION NOIRE " - " THE BLACK LEGION " - OF THE SECONDE LEGION DES FRANCS WAS LED BY A LONE FRUSTRATED POLITICAL RADICAL, AND THEN ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE WITH CONSEQUENCES WHICH ARE STILL GOING ON TODAY. ALL HELL HAD ALREADY BROKEN LOOSE IN FRANCE IN THE 1790s, THOMAS PAINE AND OTHERS WERE LUCKY TO ESCAPE WITH THEIR LIVES : JAMES TILLEY-MATHEWS DESCENDED INTO INSANITY IN HIS PRISON CELL WRITING AT EVEN GREATER MADDER LENGTHS THAN ME IN TRYING TO PERSUADE THE JACOBIN LEADERS NOT TO WRECK THE FRENCH REPUBLIC AND WAS LUCKY TO BE TREATED WITH COMPASSION AND EVENTUALLY SENT HOME TO DIE IN AN INSANE ASYLUM, AND DAVID WILLIAMS QUIETLY WITHDREW INTO EDUCATIONAL, LITERARY AND CHARITY PURSUITS AS THE DEMOCRATS IN THE UNITED KINGDOM WENT ON THE RAMPAGE PUTTING PEOPLE LIKE JOHN THELWALL ON TRIAL FOR THEIR LIVES. WILLIAM " THE BASTARD " WORDSWORTH AND OTHERS BETRAYED NOT ONLY THE REPUBLICAN IDEALS WHICH THEY HAD ONCE PROFESSED BUT ALSO THEIR FRIENDS - YET IOLO MORGANNWG CAME FORTH TO DEFEND THE PEOPLE IN WALES AND THE WORLD AND HIS FRIEND JOSEPH TREGELLES PRICE WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS THE PEACE SOCIETY WHICH COALESCED AT THE END OF THE NAPOLEONIC WAR BECAUSE THE UNITED KINGDOM IN 1812 DECIDED TO FIGHT YET ANOTHER WAR WITH THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC, PROBABLY BECAUSE BY NOW THEY PERCEIVED THE AMERICANS AS HAVING STARTED ALL OF THIS : SEE WHAT I MEAN ABOUT THE HISTORIC LINKS BETWEEN REPUBLICANISM AND PEACE V DEMOCRACY AND WAR ?

BUT IT WAS ARGUABLY THE CORSICANS WHO FIRST CREATED A MODERN REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT - FETED AND EXPLOITED BY THE UNITED KINGDOM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsican_Republic . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasquale_Paoli . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Corsican_Kingdom




" The Club " - left to right : James Boswell, Samuel Johnson, Joshua Reynolds, David Garrick, Edmund Burke, Pasquale Paoli, Charles Burney, Thomas Wharton, Oliver Goldsmith - and in the background Frances Barber ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Barber . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Johnson . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Boswell

WERE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY SHAPED THE INTELLECTUAL LIFE OF THE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK ENGLISH BY CREATING THE DICTIONARY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Warton . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Burney . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Burney

WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THE LITERARY LIFE OF THE GEORGIAN ROYAL FAMILY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Reynolds . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Goldsmith . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Garrick

WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THE LIFE OF THE ARTS AS PRESENTED TO THE ARISTOCRACY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Williams_(philosopher) . KNEW GARRICK AND OTHERS IN THIS PICTURE LIKE . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Burke

IT WAS EDMUND BURKE WHO IN STRONGLY OBJECTING TO RICHARD PRICE'S PRAISE OF THE FRENCH REVOLUTION OF 1789 KICKED OFF THE ARGUMENT WHICH LED TO THE DESCENT INTO PARANOIA AND THE PERSECUTION OF THE REPUBLICANS IN WALES, ENGLAND, SCOTLAND AND ABOVE ALL IRELAND.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Price . http://www.ourcivilisation.com/burke/sermon.htm#Sermon . http://www.ourcivilisation.com/burke/sermon.htm#Sermon

GOOGLE " A DISCOURSE ON THE LOVE OF OUR COUNTRY RICHARD PRICE " AND YOU WILL FIND THAT MANY OF THE PEOPLE INTERESTED ARE NOT WELSH.

E.G. I DO NOT LIKE THIS - BUT CHRISTIAN REPUBLICANS IN AMERICA ARE STILL CITING RICHARD PRICE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6FyDtuhOJo

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NOW THERE IS A DOCUMENTARY ON THE BBC AT THE MOMENT ABOUT NAPOLEON BONAPARTE WHO HAS BEEN A FIGURE OF FASCINATION FOR THE DEMOCRATS OF THE UNITED KINGDOM EVER SINCE THEY WERE FIGHTING HIM - THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING : NAPOLEON BEGAN AS A DEMOCRAT - AND HE WAS NOT A REPUBLICAN.

NAPOLEON ( episode 1 of 3, available to 7th July 2015 ) - http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05yxzlj/napoleon-episode-1


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In last year's thread I did quite a bit of thinking out loud about " Y Dydd Rhydd " and discussed " feria " - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1088

Whilst I feel perfectly comfortable with the phrase " Y Dydd Rhydd " because it both rhymes and satisfyingly stacks squarishhhhly into a block of graphics thus -

YDYDD
RHYDD


- when I originally proposed it as " a more fun title " and argued to Daf that since Welsh is mostly just Latin spoken Celtically as English is mostly French spoken Teutonically then " Y Dydd Rhydd " is an obvious translation for " feria " which is the Church Latin word which gives rise to the English word " fair " which was originally just a holiday on a saint's feast day but to which a market became attached i.e. imagine that " Y Dydd Rhydd " sort of begins as a pious dinner party, becomes as from this year a more casual and open pick-nicking in Caerphilly's David Williams Memorial Park, and then private conversations between small groups of The People in Wales become public speeches, and then we start dressing up the monument with flags again and selling lamburgers ... hell by the time it ends up the size of one of those medieval fairs we will have done more for the economy of Wales than The Democrats ever did ... and of course what I would like to see Y Dydd Rhydd become is a celebration of Human Rights and Internationalism as an annual event by which to remember the history of Republicanism in Wales and to restate the way in which it has always been inextricably bound up with the history of The Peace Movement in Wales.

If The People in Wales who are the supporters CND, IFOR, CAAT, WRI, PPU etc could rediscover that fact that those histories are not merely intertwined but are in fact one history and that they are the same movement - and if they could stop being so very squeemish about the propaganda which has been made and is being made and will always be made against Republicanism by The Democrats in The United Kingdom, insinuating that Republicans in Wales are the authors of the very violence which we oppose but keep on successfully predicting will happen as result of the behaviour of The Democrats in Wales ... well, with twenty percent of the electorate self-describing themselves as " Republicans " in Wales, do we not owe it to The People of Wales and The World to at least try to ensure that the voice of Republicanism and the arguments for the Truth, Love, Freedom, Peace and ultimately The Lives of The People in Wales and The World which it is an advocate for are heard once again and subsequently permanently always will be heard in the public political discourses of The People in Wales ?

Having chosen to reject " Demockery " in 2013, I do not think that we need to create either a " Democratic Republican " Party ( as has long existed in England ) or another " Republican Democratic " Movement, I think that we should be strongly emphasising the promotion of smaller, diverse and more informal groups based more upon life long friendships and shared concerns : I have observed such groups survive through decades of political adversities, and I believe that it is only within such small circles of trust that we can be safe from those treacherous infiltrators and tedious provocateurs who wish to realise those fantasies about Republicanism which are fed upon the ideas so insiduously seeded by the propaganda made against The Republicans in Wales and The World by The Democrats of The United Kingdom and other non-political forms of government pretending to that fundamental idea which belongs only to Republicanism and defines it as being founded upon Altruism, in contradistinction to all of those Ultraisms which pretend to be political - such as Democracy - which can never have this : " The Rule of Law."

[ Since the 800th Anniversary of Magna Carta is now only a few days away, I have been working up this - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=2717#2717 ]

( The following day ) I nearly forgot what I was going to say ... when I mess with the Welsh language i.e. when I am deliberately abusing it in the hope of causing others to do a dub-all-take the trouble for me is that within my family it was my dad's mother's first language and ... well that is enough of my personal history with it ... I have enough difficulty with my abuse of the English language as I am assured by others that I do ... anyhow, my relationship with Cymraeg is a passive one in which I encounter it written on the pages which I skim and as with French etc I have great difficulty in turning around the direction of that traffic because I rarely am in a conversational situation and when I am I get anxious so I can not do the necessary lingo-switch ... in other words through my being in a constant state of inner cogitationalismic activity using English that language has worn a deep rut through my brain and those neural pathways which are Anglophone are a hungry bunch of bloody-minded musculaturised little brutes who elbow my weakened Cymrophone neural pathways out of the way on most of those occasions when I wish to indulge myself in some sort of wreckreational writing ... so on those occasions when I am taking my recreation through the medium of Welsh it is usually in pieces no longer than an entry in the GPC when I am exploring the connotations of a word, or in short pieces of verse such as this - and I hope that I will be pardoned for copying this in exchange for advertising and praising this website !

https://sites.google.com/site/ygraigarw/cynganeddu-2012 ... THIS IS PHILIP JONATHAN'S WEBSITE - AND A VERY GOOD ONE TOO

Gwenllian ...................................................... AN AUTOMATICULALALALATED TRANSALADATIONALISM BY GLUBBLE

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Rhydd yw llywydd Gwenllian - y dydd rhydd
......... Gwenllian president is free - free day
Adennydd, oed anian ....................................... Wings, old temperament
Teithio'n awchus â brys brân .......................... Traveled avidly with emergency crow
O'r wlad i'r haul 'da'r wylan. ............................. The sun of the country 's good gull.

( K yn mynd â'r car coch yn ôl i Gaerdydd ) .... ( K takes the red car back to Cardiff )



Gwenllian ....................................................................................... A FREE FREE TRANSLATION SIDEWAYS INTO " THE RECKONING OF DAI "

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Rhydd yw llywydd Gwenllian - y dydd rhydd ...................................... Free is the leadership of The White Priestess - The Free Day
Adennydd, oed anian ...................................................................... Spreads its wings : A Tryst with The Nomos
Teithio'n awchus â brys brân ............................................................ Traveling in eagerness and with ravenous haste
O'r wlad i'r haul 'da'r wylan. ............................................................. From all across The Land to The Sun of The Faerie Maiden.

( K yn mynd â'r car coch yn ôl i Gaerdydd ) ........... ( D is going by ... oh ... my class of poetic licence doesn't allow me to do that.)

Now I was thinking of providing explanations here to justify my slant upon Phillip Johnson's poem and thus my choice of words but the answers to cryptic cross words such as mine can only be found in the minds of those who read them and so therefore I am only willing to count myself to be a booty in the eyes of my beholders. ... I mean, it could have been " The Free Day ( is on the ) ( takes ) wing " or " with the ravenous haste_Of The Land to The Sun " ... Philip Johnson's poem plays on imagery which is to do with birds, but I like to fly off and make a nest in the dictionaries in order to brood upon the past meanings of these words and to incubate them in order to hatch out any new associations within their contexts and thus learn a bit more Welsh along the way ... which results in my contemporary vocabulary being lousy but my Medieval Welsh is ... well ... incidentally - llyw - llywy - llywydd - llywyddes ... I would have chosen " llywy " because it has more daiverse meanings and because I am casual with the cynghanedd whatever the language ... and " llyw-ydd " sounds to me like " leader-ist " ... although come to think of it using " llyw-y " predictably perhaps puts putative poets' possibly at risk in summoning up the idea of an obsessively girly elderly "guider-ist " ... or someone who might just look a bit " gawci " perhaps ? ... Given these rather poor puns, I am beginning to wonder as to whether or not this particular serpent's egg is now clucking ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ar_Lan_y_M%C3%B4r#The_Neo-Druidic_Serpent.27s_Egg_as_.27_A_Nest_of_Dragons_.27_Symbolising_A_Republican_Army_.3F


[ Daf keeps threatening to take away my Scriving Licence and I have already revoked his Skiving Licence - but he just can not be bothered to obey my authority ... ]


I TRIED TO LOCATE YOUR EMAIL PHILIP TO NOTE TO YOU THIS ... ABUSE ? ... PLEASE ACCEPT MY ADVERTISING YOU POLITICAL WRITINGS IN RETURN.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnx5Z3JhaWdhcnd8Z3g6NDM5OTVhMjQyMWJjZTJjYw
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought that I would write a bit of background material for this thread separately -

THE IRON MOUTH of THE FRIENDS OF TRUTH - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=2737#2737

Let us hope for a fine evening in which everybody will find somebody to talk to whom they like : I am in a dreamy mood and having too much fun recently -

Hierarchy : The Media as the Influencing Machine - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1200

[ BOTTOM OF ] The North Star : associated symbols, myths etc - a bit about Ludlow - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=648

Ludlow / Lewis / Washington - OMNE SOLEM FORTIS PATRIA QUIA PATRIS - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=2729#2729


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clearly my mind was upon " Y Dydd Rhydd " whilst I was knotting this thread - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=2743#2743

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_comitatus_(common_law) ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_Castle#17th.E2.80.9318th_centuries

... It is knocking on 02.45 am and I am falling about laughing : honestly - there is a trajectory to this ! ... HELL - I HOPE THERE IS !!! ... I think that I'll recount The Peaceable Army Story ... as I imagine it ...

" Look - I'm terribly sorry to ... er ... we-ell ... I mean ... being on the other side and ... er ... all ... um - but I ... er ... as The Sheriff of Glamorgan ... er ... shire ... um ... I ... I ... I ... " " You would like to ask for some legal advice ? " " Well - yes, strictly speaking - I ... I ... I ... oh, old fellow - old chum : this is a very rum business, us being enemies and wot-not, but we have not actually - you know, really even been so much as rude to each other as yet and it does seem to be a dreadful shame to be drawn into a war which is nothing to do with us - excepting The King and everything, whom I am duty bound of course to support - as a respected member of the local Aristocracy - but - well, I feel rather differently about it as - you know ... eh ? ... wink wink ? ... " " I am sure that I do not know what you mean sir." " Oh ? " " Perhaps if you were to adjust your trouser leg to a more modest length ... we might sit down together and examine the necessary paperwork." " Together ? ... Is that ... not ... er ... rather a Levelling sort of thing to do ? ... Should you not ... erm ... stand before me or grovel or something, I mean - just for the sake of decency ? " " No." " Oh." " Please sign here, here - here and ... there - and seal it there and here ... and then - if you will permit me - I will just separate the two copies : there - now as your solicitor I will keep this copy safe, and you will take this one to The King." " I SAY - that was VERY efficiently organised ! You seem to have planned this all out very well before hand - as if you had already done this sort of thing before ! " " Merely a matter of professonal pride, my old friend - and practice, practice, practice ... " " You mean to say that you never started a war before, you have only ever practiced it ? " " The Laws of England began in trial by combat." " Well, I supposed that I had better go down to meet the troops and greet The King ! " " Certainly - but you will allow me to attend upon you to explain upon your behalf - in my professional capacity, as your solicitor - the Posse Comitatus to The King ? " " I simply do not know what I would do without you, it is such a pity that once the fighting starts our friendship must end ! " " Whether we are friends or enemies, you will always be my most valued client." " Well, it might not be a good idea to mention your love of Republicanism to The King or I may end up losing my most valued legal advisor and - AAAHHHH !!! - YOUR MAJESTICALNESS !!! "

" dai ! DAI ! " " What ? " " Stand up straight - and try to look illiterate - The King is coming ! " " So what ? Are we supposed to be happy to meet him ? " " You are not going to meet him - but you are going to be within three feet of him - HIM ! GOD'S ANNOINTED ! " " Oh, Daf - you are a so superstitious ! " " I AM NOT ! " " Oh yeah ? You looked and sounded like a Catholic last night, crouched under your bedsheet praying to the Virgin ... " " Praying for a virgin - FOR ! " " Well - I guess that you will not get your prayers answered then - in Cardiff ! " " Ha ha ha - what are they doing now ? " " Oh - The King is actually going to speak - TO US !!! "

" May I say - and I certainly do intend to - that I am moderately pleased to see such a pleasantly presented turn out here today ... I am delighted to hear nothing of ' Levelling ' - although I can see that a certain amount of it has gone on already in your trampling of these gardens and crockery in the spirit of true loyalty to royalty. I especially wish to express my gratitude on behalf of my kingdom - and The Almighty God in whose cause we serve - for your charitable donation of your churches' silver, the profuse amount of coins and - buttons ! - of all denominations and all of your I.O.U.s will be most tenderly tendered to The Chancellor of The Exchequer once you have restored me to a position in which I can once more extort the full payment of your debts to me ... Now I have to warn you that you have a long march ahead of you, first into Monmouthshire and - YOU WILL BEG MY PARDON - SIR ? "

" Your Majesty, before you give that order I need you to complete the paperwork of the Posse Comitatus in order to make the order legal under section seven, sub-section six, paragraph nineteen of The County Militias Act 1639 in accordance with The Rules of War as amended by The Milk Maids and Allied Trades ( Public Order and Civil Magistrates Administration ) Act 1642, section sixty three and three quarters paragraph two as read in conjunction with table eight of the appendix thereof." " WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT ? " " Just sign here, here, there - and there, there and here ... " " THERE - NOW : MAY I PROCEED ? " " No." " WHAT !!!! " " ... No ... Your Majesty ? ... " " WHY !!!! "

" Well, in accordance with the aforementioned statutes as passed by Parliament and made into law by your Royal Assent, you have lawfully expressed you command to " The Peaceable Army " to march into Monmouthshire - but The Common Law only allows my client here - The Sheriff of Glamorganshire - to raise a militia in the aforementioned but latter county in The Principality of Wales and the aforementioned but previous county which you have ordered him to march the militia into - which order he is not lawfully allowed to execute." " UH ? " " I must insist upon advising my client to observe the Common and Statute Laws which Your Majesty has made and endorsed : that he sends this Posse Comitatus forthwith to Parliament requesting their necessary signatures upon it to endorse your order thus enabling my client The Sheriff of Glamorgan to then march " The Peaceable Army " lawfully out of his jurisdiction."

" Well my old chum, that seemed to me to be a jolly good wheeze you thought of there at the last minute - certainly your Republican wits got us all out of that tight spot ... but do you think that The King will come back ? " " Well, we have given him every last penny that we had so I doubt it ... but now that we are bankrupt, what are we going to do when Cromwell turns up ? "" Does this Republicanism that you keep going on about have anything within it to give us some ideas as to what to do next ? " " To be honest, there are now two thousand years of writings about Republicanism and I find it just utterly bewildering - but also very entertaining and daiverting." " Well - look, this is 1645 and perhaps if there were just a few more Republicans around at the end of all of this misery then surely this will be the war to end all wars ? Unspeakable things are being done in England to Englishmen, Englishwomen, English Children, Dogs, Cats, Geese, Horses, Pigs - not to mention the foreigners - surely anybody can learn from their example what not to do to others, whatever our differences ? " " We can only learn from those examples which are not forgotten, but to be honest I would rather that we now take the rest of the day off - we all need on such occasions as this to forget what we do but to remember why we try." " Ah ! Do you mean that annual holiday that my peasants are forever pleading for - " Y Dydd Rhydd ? " " Huh ! That is quite a catchy little phrase - and perhaps the idea of being able to desist from forever arguing with others and just sitting down with those you disagree with in order to rediscover all of those things which you can in fact agree upon will catch on ? " " You know I went to France once and in the summer months - usually mid July I think - they do this thing called a ' pic-nic ' where everybody goes off to the fields to help get the harvest in - and everybody joins in and - honestly - you would never know what a man's - or woman's - politics or religion was, or whether they were rich or poor either. They bring nothing to this care-free festival but a bottle in one pocket and a stuffed baguette in the other - and mostly just sit around having these interesting conversations - in French, of course ! " " That sounds to me like the sort of pleasantly peaceful and civilising social event that surely almost anybody could enjoy - so please, let us now just get out of Cardiff : let us go and find somewhere serene and quiet, scenic and - quick ! " " How about Caerphilly Castle ? " " OH - NO !!! That is a place that I would definitely rather not go to : I have never walked out of the Shire Court and departed for my home through Cardiff Castle's gate without shuddering at the thought of the ghostly gibbet of Llewelyn Bren hanging over me there ... let us go somewhere nice and tranquil, the sort of place that has ever been and will forever remain untainted by such evils as Lies, Hatred, Enslavement and War : a place of Life not Death.

" How about those lovely hedge-rowed fields over beyond St Fagans ? "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llywelyn_Bren ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_St_Fagans

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P.S. - A friend of mine has been laughing about this and asking whether I wish to lead " F Troop " of which I had not heard, but I made a note to find out about it -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K4BvF_sb3Y ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4h5RdKX_Zw ... in terms of sit-com theme tunes, our lot are probably -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMKsR_wUSfA ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRaiiT3ZnJw ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFxVBS7gFSs


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A POEM WHICH WROTE ME OFF OVER NIGHT ... " /x\ " ... you have to recite this out loud with different intonations in order to hear the ambiguities ...

... see also - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=2751#2751

/Χ\ . /x\ . /x\ .


Our Thirteen Ours are our catechisms -
Our defiance of those who cause our divisions :
Our class is now reading of our revolutions
And our task is now righting their wrongs - our solutions ?
Our People in Wales are Repwblicanisms ...


/ϴ\ . /ө\ . /θ\ . /ᶿ\

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Perhaps I should try to convey more how I try to intonate, pause and either over-emphasise or mutely linger upon such words in my truly horrible accent* ?

Gwladys is my muse, but fair ...
... Do's ... my proems are rather square :
Our Dada gave us lessons see -
From the book of popular poetry, ______________ From our favourite book of poetry ______ ? ______ From the popular book of poetry ______ ?
Published annually - as - " Rupert The Bear."

dai repwblic - Dai Saw - David B Lawrence - the moral right of the author is asserted - to not to sue for copyright ...


I feel that I ought to explain to the biggest section of repwblic's audience - mostly The People in China - that I belong to a generation which almost invariably received a " Rupert The Bear " annual each Christmas. Rather than describe these books I would like to suggest that you Google and browse, but briefly - these children's stories first appeared in newspapers in the 1920s as black and white line illustrations with the story told in both rhyme and prose beneath them and parents had to be careful to get to their newspapers first before they arrived to find large holes cut out of them almost as soon as they hit their doormat. These serialised stories stuck into scrap books later grew into published books which soon not only became coloured but eventually beautiful and are much sought after by collectors - but good copies of the older ones are rare because they were loved to bits by both children and perhaps more so by parents. The stories are always interesting and often adventurous, but they have the very pleasing qualities of charm, good manners and a touch of morality and ethics which dealt with the sorts of issues that children have to face.

In terms of our own generation's upbringing there was none of these stern lectures about racism for example : we were brought up believing that there was probably a pagoda somewhere with some very nice polite Chinese people living in it, and if we should come across some Indians in the woods then they would probably invite us into their wig-wam if it was raining offer us a nice cup of Darjeeling ... in comparison to the middle class' literary cult of Enid Blyton, which was considered to be the sort of thing which properly brought up children ought to read with along with not just the lashings of ginger beer but also of anybody of the wrong colour ( e.g. green ) ... " Rupert The Bear " was in fact a positively shining example of the Fascist youth culture of his day, which The People in Wales are trying to forget had its gentler side in The Green Shirts, who mostly went for long bracing walks in case there was the possibility of rescuing small bears ... in order to counter this The Communists in England devised a revolutionary counter-bear during The Cold War and smuggled him into London via Peru in an attempt to subvert Rupert's civil behaviour as politeness at that time was considered to be merely the affectation of reactionary humbugs.

Fortunately nothing much came of it because Paddington found that he could no longer keep it under his hat and denounced the CPGB as bourgeois revisionists who were unsympathetic to his plight as an illegal immigrant because he did not behave like " Rupert The Bear." Lonely and dejected and down to his last marmalade sandwich, which he had hidden from the commissar demanding it of him, within a secret compartment in his otherwise empty brief-case - which now no longer contained his autographed copy of Das Kapital because it had been a very long sea voyage ... anyhow, obviously he could not refer to the colour of it afterwards to Mr Brown and so he politely managed to pick a winning subject of conversation : bears are always polite when abroad ... The great thing about fictional bears of course is that you do not have any facts to consider in writing about them : you can say almost anything that is plausible that you like as a writer, but when The People Who Believe In Anything do not check their facts ... well - do you really think that it would be wise to hug a bear when you are abroad i.e. when the bears are home and feel no compulsion to be polite and helpful to strangers ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Express - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail#Inter-war_period

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Bear - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paddington_Bear

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* What my mangrelized pronunciation is useful for is annoying cold-callers : Daf is plagued by them because he is such a nice guy ... but if you lack my natural ability to grind sales-people down in person, my advice is to have a really long and boring answering machine message : what works particularly well is to play really loud jarring music whilst you record the outgoing message and keep shouting out that you can not hear them could they speak up a bit ? Once they have spent nearly a minute yelling and screaming at you trying to be heard only to find that the noise has suddenly abated and you are quietly suggesting that if they will leave you a message after the beep ... they just don't bother ringing back ... The only disadvantage to this is that my friends were complaining about it too, so I thought that I would strike a compromise and read out the following proem with some a nice Latino-Jazz playing besides me as I did so ...

Hello ! - Siwmae ! ... You have rung Dai's phone -
OH-Fawa-WEE-Woo-Ine-WA-BO-BAH-DEE-DAH-
But perhaps you sense that you are ... all alone ? - DO-LO-DO-bah-la-la-lo-LEE-Ya-Ya-YEE-DEE-
Well in case you are not quite ... feeling sure ... Da-LA-LI-Li-li-i-i-ooooo-ya-ah-ha-la-la-da-da-
This is Cardiff : -X-X-X- -X-X-4- !!! ... -JerUBBy-WAH-wah-WOO-BEE-dwaBEE-BA-bee-DA-!-doo-wee-
Please leave your mess-age af-ter the tone - !!! DOBBY-DOO-DOBBY-DOO-bubbi-!!!-BEEP-!!!

... so now that even my friends have started to refuse to listen to my proetry, I am thinking that I really do not have any further use for this landline and so given the fact that I am now more often on the phone arguing with Talk Talk over the lousy ADSL connection ... I might try to get out a bit more ... in fact at the moment I really do fancy this pic-nic ...
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Henri - Politique

I was introduced last night to this view of the feline political situation by Henri Le Chat in France - and one of his admirers and sympathisers -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvQPzmoKuBk&list=RD0M7ibPk37_U&index=3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epxiZb7Luy4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itFKvtVt6YM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxEVeu6b-o8 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD7druL7lTQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW5SMRVjnvk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg5x1ygUieg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxoZ3hXrsio - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCLSlvMwWAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFdiwCbxFZ4 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEIQUgSBO9A

- because the evening before I had texted -

If we Republicans are all moggies_Then Democrats are surely doggies_Republicans are owned by none_But Democrats all quickly run,_Roll over, sit up and beg - for hoggies ! ... Our Landlady is our social hub_She cooks our beer_She serves us grub_All week she practices her Biz_Just to run for us our Quiz_Hers really is a first rate pub ! ... RE : PUBLICAN - A job in an office_For a patriot : must be a Miss_Qualified in Symbolism,_Drama & Alcoholism_& answering to the name of " Gwladys." = I am thinking of a cartoon " AW ! C'mon Gwladys - serve me : I have promised to be good !!! " - " MY MAMGU BANNED YOU FROM THE THREE FEATHERS WAY BACK IN 1969 - AND MY MAM UPHELD HER MAM'S WISHES - AND SO WILL I : HOW MANY TIMES DOES ANYONE HAVE TO TELL YOU MAC ? NO !!! "

[ WHICH IN ANOTHER TEXT BECAME ]

If we Republicans are all moggies_
Then Democrats are surely doggies_
Republicans are owned by none_
But Democrats all quickly run,_
Roll over, sit up and beg - for hoggies !

=

Our Landlady is Our social hub_
She cooks Our beer_
She serves Our grub_
All week She practices Her Biz_
Just to run for us Our Quiz_
Ours really is a first rate 'Pub !

=

RE : PUBLICAN - A job in an office_
For a patriot : must be a Miss_
Qualified in Symbolism,_
Drama & Alcoholism_
& answering to the name of " Gwladys."

=

I am thinking of a cartoon " AW ! C'mon Gwladys - serve me : I have promised to be good ! " - " MY MAMGU BANNED YOU FROM THE THREE FEATHERS WAY BACK IN 1969 - AND MY MAM UPHELD HER MAM'S WISHES - AND SO WILL I : HOW MANY TIMES DOES ANYONE HAVE TO TELL YOU MAC ? NO ! "

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WPS ! - I posted this here by mistake ? - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=2757#2757

Well, enjoy this picture : if I get around to drawing it, I may well put it into that cartoon which I thought of drawing : a ripost to " The White Eagle."



[ THAT THREAD ON SIANTIGLIR MAKES IT RATHER DIFFICULT TO FIND OUT THE POINT THAT I WAS MAKING AS I WROTE TOWARDS IT : SOME HELP ? ]

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=2491#2491

- ' Y Repwblic ' is full of humour - " Repwbligwyr " entered the Welsh language circa 1800 denoting political day-dreamers ; I was in fact " Dai Bach " as a child, but do you know that this pun in Welsh refers to a child doted on as a " Little God " ? ; I was killing myself laughing when in casting around for an avatar image I hit upon the idea of ' a posse of violets ' - this may take some explaining : take it from me, I was again taking the piss out of myself as " Little God " + " Corporal Violet."

In the 1800s, it was absolutely necessary to never give your real name or to be found in possession of a bunch of violets : there are many famous pen-names such as Iolo Morgannwg, and he gave birth to the whole idea of using a bardic name to disguise the identity of a writer until they had received public acclaim : Iolo Morgannwg proclaimed " The White Feather " as a symbol of ' Y Repwblic ' mostly because drovers wore it in their old black hats in order to indicate to each other on the road that they were Welsh - but this symbol of " The Republic in Wales and the World " was - and is - also a symbol of his beloved Welsh literature : the white chicken's feather stains the white page with the thick black blood of Wales' wounds - but neither Iolo Morgannwg nor any of the others who adopted bardic names were ' chickens ' despite their pacificistic stances against the murderous wars that their oppressors feasted upon, devouring the poverty stricken youths of Wales.

So here is a new joke : I will explain this one, so that my self-mockery is understood - and so is my sense of being Welsh : I am have been having difficulty with the ' repwblic.org ' for more than two years or more ( it is possible that it has been deliberately sabotaged by a certain sort of carelessness ) but when I get the bits of it back together it may well feature ' the white chicken of Wales ' for various reasons, one of them being to gently take the piss out of ' the white eagle of Wales ' of Balchder Cymru etc. How does this pun work ? The Latin for ' chicken ' or ' cockerel ' is ' Gallus ' which is why ' the fighting cock ' or ' Le coq sportif ' is the proud symbol of those plucky little French guys descended from the Gauls - strutting out onto the turf to do battle against the Welsh against overwhelming odds - and even succeeding ! In French of course, Wales is ' Le Pays de Galles ' so it is possible to use the same visual pun as used by ' Republicans in France.' The cockerel actually has a long and ambivalent Republican history in terms of symbolism, which is something which I like, and amongst other things it does is that in religion it reminds us each morning to mend our ways and in politics it proclaims the dawn of a new day : in religious symbolism it is proclaiming the day of judgement - and in political symbolism that is calling for revolution.

I AM GOING TO FINISH THIS ANY DA...... http://repwblic.informe.com/y-sianticlir-cymreig-le-chanteclair-gallois-dt634.html

In terms of '" Y Repwblic " however, "Gallus gallus domesticus" is of course not only a reference to the pacifist-pacificator internationalistic-nomocratic and increasingly ' Pure Republican ' political stance which it has acquired ( through effectively becoming my personal blog with some very funny pieces and comments contributed by Marianne Cook ) but also a literary reference to that talkative and subversive agitator for animal writes - " Chanteclair " or as Saunders Lewis translated the name " Sianticlir " which means means " Clear-Song " - whereas the French name reflects the weather-cock on a steeple, calling out that the wind is changing and predicting storms ahead - " Chant-eclair " = " Lightning-song " = " Siant-eglur " ... here's Iolo Morgannwg using the concept of ' eglur ' in the context of one of his Deistic hymns - from Barddas - Vol 1, Ch 3 : note 373:1

Addwyn haul yn ewbr yn nwyfre,
Gorddyar adar, gwlyb traeth,
Eglur nwyfre, ehelaeth ton ;
Gwyw calon rhag hiraeth.

You might translate ' Eglur nwyfre ' as ' a clear sky ' but the reason why ' eclair ' means a bun in English is because the original meaning in French is ' a flash ' e.g. as in a bun with ' a flash of custard cream.' Another use of ' eglur ' in Welsh demonstrates the connection with ' lightning ' - it has been used for ' spark ' - hence ' eglurhad ' / ' eglurhwch ' carries the sense of having obtained a sudden understanding, and I prefer its use for ' The Enlightenment ' because it conveys " being struck by lightning."
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Well I have been ineffectually very busy these past few days but I note that people are looking at this thread and one person has rung me up this afternoon to ask me where we are meeting this evening and what are we doing and ... well, first of all we are meeting NEXT Tuesday evening 14th July 2015 at 7pm in Caerphilly at the David Williams Memorial * ... FOR A PIC-NIC ... Bastille Day is for us " The Day Off " - " Y Dydd Rhydd " - and therefore there will be no speeches because there is no agenda other than a bunch of The People Who May Or May Not Be Republicans But Who Are Variously Political And Usually Talk About Their Jobs, Their Kids Or The Weather Until Some Idiot Mentions Some Government And ... in other words, whatever happens on these occasions is indeed whatever happens - only this time by making it into pic-nic in a public park we will not deter those who do not want to pay as much £20+ for the opportunity of a satisfying their convictions that I am mad ... or a liar ... or just stupid.

( * ... The David Williams Memorial is not the only tangible thing which you can visit and contemplate and quietly photograph and touch in order to be sure that Republicanism in Wales is not only real but has a very long history : as the very first of the The People's Popular Political Pillowsophies, the type of " White " politics advocated by " Y Repwblic " has been in around in Wales for over two hundred years and no, nobody respectable now writes much about it because journalists like Humphries and Shipton are in the business of making money out sensational books and noxious newspapers recounting the exploits of a handful of The People Who Think That Republicans Are Exactly As The United Kingdom's Propaganda Portrays Them - As Thugs ... and so it is not that The People In The BritiShite Broadcasting Corporation know bugger all about us but that it is their job to deny the very existence of the 500,000 - 600,000 of The Peaceable People in Wales who say that they are Republicans. ...

... In other words, one in five of The People in Wales and England ( and even more in Scotland ) not only identify themselves as Republicans - and it is not me saying this but The People in Wales and England When Polled Themselves - but are as often as not also bitterly and absolutely opposed to The Political System Called The United Kingdom on account of it being a terrorist state which in the past has waged war, is presently waging war and in the future - unless we can finally bring it to an end - will wage war, and not only against The People in The World but also against us, The People in Wales and England, for they are treating us merely as livestock upon their cheapskate feudal farm - if only they would fatten us up before they send us out to be slaughtered ! ... Be assured therefore that The People Who Are ' Real ' Republicans In Wales are mostly very shy, mostly on account of our political predecessors having been hanged or transported for the grievous crimes of wearing socks with sandals and ordering half pints of mild ... oh - and for insolently having our heads stuck in the kinds of books that only those chaps who have been to Oxford or Cambridge or the LSE are supposed to be allowed to read ... )


... er ... where was I ? ... I am sure that was a duff pint ... and come the revolution that I want, painfully loud pop-music published after 1979 and The People Who Scream At Plasma Screens are surely ... er ... any-how ... look : take my word for it - if you care to join us, you are not about to be drawn into anything but a conversation : you do not need to bring anything but yourself, and in doing so you are not going to discover any criminal conspiracies or have any unpleasant experiences upon " Y Dydd Rhydd " ... unless of course you are going to create them yourselves ...

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" I say - Sir ! - would you care for this ' Kit-Cat ' ? "
" Er ? A new kind of snack ? What is that ? "
" Well - I'll do you a picture -
But I impose but one stricture :
That you become A Satirical Scribler ! "

dai repwblic - Dai Saw - David B Lawrence - the moral right of the author is asserted not to sue for copyright ...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit-Cat_Club ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scriblerus_Club

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Fielding ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Welsh_Opera

" ... The Welsh Opera is a play by Henry Fielding. First performed on 22 April 1731 in Haymarket, the play replaced The Letter Writers and became the companion piece to The Tragedy of Tragedies. It was also later expanded into The Grub-Street Opera. The play's purported author is Scriblerus Secundus who is also a character in the play. This play is about Secundus' role in writing two (Fielding) plays: The Tragedy of Tragedies and The Welsh Opera. ... The play served as a tribute to Scriblerians (satirists and members of the informal Scriblerus Club), as such it allowed Fielding to satirise politics. As a political allegory that satirised the government of the time, the play was subject to attacks and a ban. Critics agree that the play was bold in both its writing and its message. ... "


I rarely comment on contemporary events unless they contain some aspect by which I might be able to explain some transcending idea which will be relevant at some future date, otherwise I would deem my time to be wasted by constantly complaining about what is in the news ... however ... whilst on the train on Monday I was warned about today's ( Thursday's and Friday's ) railway strike by the ticket collector, and since the lady was almost in tears about it I knocked out this poem in order to offer her some solidarity to encourage her. Coming from a family of four generations of trade unionists, I am very well aware of how serious and potentially self-harming a strike action is for those undertaking it, and in this instance they are definitely making personal sacrifices in The Public Interest by campaigning against driver-only trains : if you have ever been on a crowded train where some diminutive railway-lady has firmly confronted a rowdy situation - e.g. with drunken football hooligans - then you will understand how dangerous it is for other passengers if there is no guard there to draw herself up to the full authority of her four foot five inches and deal with such people : the drivers must drive and they are in no position to deal with such yobs who without an observant eye upon them to remind them of their mothers ... anway, this is what I handed to that railway-lady ten minutes later - well, something very close to this because I have just tweaked it in a couple of places, here and there - everywhere ...

They've told us to take a hike -
So we've decided to go on strike
And so the money that we would make
Upon our future lives we'll stake :
To get what we'll need - not what we'd like !

dai repwblic - Dai Saw - David B Lawrence - the moral right of the author is asserted not to sue for copyright ...


... and with next Tuesday 14th July 2015 in mind, within half an hour I had written the following : before trade unions' activities were finally accepted as being legal strikes were often organised as shows of supposed piety in which everybody involved went to their local parish church on some appropriate saint's day - even if they objected to The Church of England - as a way of denying that a trade union would cause any public disorder or lead to lack of respect for duly appointed authorities of the state, the established church being the clerical arm of The United Kingdom with the King of England the titular head of it under the various Acts of Supremacy. The early 19c term used for a long strike was " The Sacred Month " and it is just possible that trade unionists got this from Islam ...

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/condition-working-class/ch10.htm

Condition of the Working Class in England, by Engels, 1845

" ... The English working-man is no Englishman nowadays; no calculating money-grubber like his wealthy neighbour. He possesses more fully developed feelings, his native northern coldness is overborne by the unrestrained development of his passions and their control over him. The cultivation of the understanding which so greatly strengthens the selfish tendency of the English bourgeois, which has made selfishness his predominant trait and concentrated all his emotional power upon the single point of money-greed, is wanting in the working-man, whose passions are therefore strong and mighty as those of the foreigner. English nationality is annihilated in the working-man. ...

[ OH ! OLD ENGELS STILL READS WELL YOU KNOW ... AND NO - I AM NOT INCITING PEOPLE TO MAKE BOMBS BY CITING THIS : THOSE EVENTS DESCRIBED LED PEOPLE TO WANT COLLECTIVE POLITICAL SOLUTIONS FOR THEIR PROBLEMS, NOT THE RANDOM BLOODY CHAOS OF REVENGEFUL INDIVIDUALS - THIS IS WHY THE REPUBLICANS WERE STRIVING TO FOUND THE TRADE UNION CONGRESS : IT WAS NOT CREATED BY SOCIALISTS - IN THE 19c THEY WERE THE BOMBERS, HENCE ENGELS' DISPARAGING REMARKS ... NOW : DO YOU REALLY WANT THESE SORTS OF THINGS TO BE REPEATED ALL OVER AGAIN ? ... NO ... SO LET US FINALLY GET RID OF THIS POLITICAL SYSTEM CALLED " THE UNITED KINGDOM " - i.e. to peaceably replace the increasingly Dis-United Kingdom with The Re-United Republic - and, if you really want The Royals, we can even make it into " The Confederated Crowned Republic of The Broken Bits of Britain " - but for our own sanity's sake, let us now try to create a political system that actually works ! ]

... Stagnation in business, and the want consequent upon it, engendered the revolt at Lyons, in 1834, in favour of the Republic: in 1842, at Manchester, a similar cause gave rise to a universal turnout for the Charter and higher wages. That courage is required for a turnout, often indeed much loftier courage, much bolder, firmer determination than for an insurrection, is self-evident. It is, in truth, no trifle for a working-man who knows want from experience, to face it with wife and children, to endure hunger and wretchedness for months together, and stand firm and unshaken through it all ... [ - I NEVER READ THE FOLLOWING PASSAGE BEFORE - BUT HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE HISTORY WHICH THE UNITED KINGDOM MAKES SURE IS NOT TAUGHT IN ITS SCHOOLS AND SO THE LESSONS ARE NEVER LEARNED - ] ... Not to mention the Welsh insurrection of 1839, a complete battle was waged in Manchester in May, 1843 ... the proprietors set twelve men to guard the yard, all ex-soldiers and policemen, armed with guns. When intimidation proved unavailing, the brick-yard, which lay scarcely four hundred paces from an infantry barracks, was stormed at ten o'clock one night by a crowd of brickmakers, who advanced in military order, the first ranks armed with guns. ...

[ ... NO NEED TO COPY MORE FROM THAT : THIS CHAMELEON-LIKE POLITICAL SYSTEM WHICH ONCE PROVOKED THESE DISORDERS IN SOCIETY HAS BARELY CHANGED AT ALL : THE UNITED KINGDOM NOW HAS VOTING - BUT IT IS STILL UNWILLING TO ACQUIRE THE CONVENTIONAL CONSTITUTIONAL ARRANGEMENTS OF A MODERN POLITICAL SYSTEM AND IS MERELY MIMICKING THEM - AS A " DEMOCKERY." ]


... The English Chartist is politically a republican, though he rarely or never mentions the word, while be sympathises with the republican parties of all countries, and calls himself in preference a democrat. But he is more than a mere republican, his democracy is not simply political. ... At a meeting of Liberals and Chartists held in Manchester, February 14th, 1842, a petition urging the repeal of the Corn Laws and the adoption of the Charter was drawn up. The next day it was adopted by both parties. The spring and summer passed amidst violent agitation and increasing distress. The bourgeoisie was determined to carry the repeal of the Corn Laws with the help of the crisis, the want which it entailed, and the general excitement. At this time, the Conservatives being in power, the Liberal bourgeoisie half abandoned their law-abiding habits; they wished to bring about a revolution with the help of the workers. The working-men were to take the chestnuts from the fire to save the bourgeoisie from burning their own fingers. The old idea of a “holy month,” a general strike, broached in 1839 by the Chartists, was revived. This time, however, it was not the working-men who wished to quit work, but the manufacturers who wished to close their mills and send the operatives into the country parishes upon the property of the aristocracy, thus forcing the Tory Parliament and the Tory Ministry to repeal the Corn Laws. ...


[ OH ... WELL THAT WAS A TAD EMBARRASSING ... BUT SURELY YOU UNDERSTAND THE POINT ? ... " Y DYDD RHYDD " - WELL FOR ME AT LEAST - HAS ASSOCIATIONS WITH " THE SACRED MONTH." ... LOOKING AROUND FOR THE TERM I FOUND VARIOUS REFERENCES : IN 1839 THE CHARTIST CONVENTION VOTED ROUGHLY 2:1 AGAINST THE GENERAL STRIKE PROPOSAL WHICH WAS BEING REFERRED TO AS " THE SACRED MONTH."]

http://www.historyhome.co.uk/peel/chartism/birchar.htm ...

" ...Attwood planned a 'sacred week' [a general strike] ... A 'Sacred Month' or 'national holiday' was proposed for August 1839 - in effect, a general strike. ... The proposal for a 'Sacred Month' shows the divisions in Chartism : London and Birmingham wanted a peaceful protest ; O'Connor and the northerners wanted a revolutionary rising ... "

ON THE SAME PAGE ARE REMARKS ABOUT THE OTHER HALF OF THE ORIGINAL CHATIST MOVEMENT WHICH HAS ALWAYS INTERESTS ME : JOSEPH STURGE AND THE COMPLETE SUFFRAGE UNION - REPWBLIC'S PURPLE BAND REFERS, AMONGST OTHER HISTORICAL PRECURSORS, TO THE C.S.U.

" - The events of 1839 were important because they resulted in moderate men abandoning Chartism because they disliked riots, social disorder and the more extreme demands of, for example, the National Charter Association. The leaders - Lovett, Attwood, Sturge - left the Chartist movement. ... In 1842 the Birmingham Complete Suffrage Union was formed. This was an attempt by Joseph Sturge and Edward Miall to unite moral and physical force Chartists. They tried to persuade Chartist leaders to go for only universal suffrage ... Joseph Sturge is a good example of a Utopian leader ... He was a Quaker, a close friend of Cobden and Bright ... a pacifist ... the Chartists who opposed O'Connor also supported the Complete Suffrage Union ... and the dispute between Chartists and the CSU was reduced to whether or not the CSU should commit itself to support the Charter in name ... In December 1842 a second conference was held, attended by O'Connor and many of his followers. Once again the meeting divided over the adoption of the 'name' of the Charter ... At its peak the CSU had had about sixty branches in different towns, but it collapsed because of O'Connor and the violent elements. ... "


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Y DYDD RHYDD

Gwalia was once quarried for thousands of her men,
And our iron masters ruled us until the day came when ...
One man threw down his tools - and raised The Open Hand :
He couldn't take it any more - he had to make a stand,
And so he made The Day Free ... But not for himself ...
Remember this - now and again.

dai repwblic - Dai Saw - David B Lawrence - the moral right of the author is asserted not to sue for copyright ...



[ I SLIGHTLY RE-COMPOSED THAT WHILST ON THE HOP - I DO NOT QUITE KNOW WHY THIS " A-A-B-B-C-A " WORKS, BUT IT SEEMS TO ]
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[ I HAVE ALSO ADDED THIS TO THE " YR ARDYSTIAD THREAD " AND THE " Y LLAW AGORED " THREADS - ]

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=2762#2762

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=2763#2763

I have had a couple of drawing projects on the go for months lurking in the back of the computer, one of them was intended to be a sort of souvenir postcard for those occasions when we are invited to do " Yr Ardystiad " again, one of which is coming up - possibly - but the use of flags seems rather unwieldy - although decorative - when almost anything could be cited as a symbol of The Republic in Wales ... and of course the handiest thing for most of The People in Wales Who Want To Do " Yr Ardystiad " is their hand ... so several months ago I proposed this modification the wording of " Yr Ardystiad " since I am increasingly enamoured of one of my thoughts about " Y Llaw Agored " which is to do with that little rigmarole which I keep on trotting out ... In order to practice this recitation of " The Handy Woman's Or Man's Manual Of Republicanism In Wales " start by standing in front of a nice mirror in order to admire yourself for being a Republican In Wales and give yourself a friendly wave - and, please remember, this is not The Fascist Salute - and thus you will make the natural shape of " Y Llaw Agored " with your fingers extended and spread and displaying " The Symbol of The Right Hand Path of The Dextrous Politics of The Pure ( White ) Republicans " ... Smile ... You should then adopt the same stance as when reciting " Yr Ardystiad " but for this purpose you use your other hand's index finger to count the following off from your small finger and once you reach your thumb swing your other fingers around to make " The Thumbs Up Sign " ... as given by Emperors to indicate that a victim should not be killed ... and whilst you are doing this do so with the smiles and smooth calm voices of those who proudly practice " The Open Mind " ...

" THIS IS THE SIGN OF THE RIGHT HAND PATH OF THE DEXTROUS POLITICS OF REPUBLICANISM'S ALTRUISMS : TRUTH, LOVE, FREEDOM AND PEACE LEAD TO - LIFE ! "

... Now you can do the same in the mirror with your hands reversed, and just to make the point about the difference between them you can use that symbol so beloved of those who always want to threaten and coerce The People in Wales and The World - the clenched fist : " Y Dwrn Caead " - which is " The Symbol of The Left Hand Path of The Sinister Politics of The Dirty ( Black ) Democrats " ... Sad ... and then just dust those knuckles off whilst holding your fist tightly closed - and also try to imitate the scowls and howls of those who proudly practice " The Closed Mind " whilst you are doing this ... and at the end of this turn your fist over and give " The Thumbs Down Sign " as given by those psychotic dictators who draw their greatest pleasures from inflicting the greatest of miseries upon others ...

" THIS IS THE SIGN OF THE RIGHT HAND PATH OF THE SINISTER POLITICS OF DEMOCRACY'S ULTRAISMS - LIES, HATRED, ENSLAVEMENT AND WAR LEAD TO - DEATH ! "


C'mon - you can't say that this isn't fun ... surely ?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.rubberchickencards.com/ecards/bastille-day/2132/

One of my Tory friends - i.e. a member of the Conservative & Unionist Party who can actually think about politics and discuss a differing point of view with amusement and usually savours the opportunity to shriek with indignation and firmly lecture me about how utterly stupid I am - kindly remembered that I do not celebrate my birthday or Christmas ( or indeed anything else which involves the egotistic greedy expectation of receiving presents or the dismal guilt of forgetting to return cards etc ) and presented me with an improvised Bastille Day card yesterday : she at least understands what I mean by us all getting together at least once a year in order to be known to each other as fellow human beings - whatever our differing conceptions of The Public Interest are ... after all, whilst it is pleasant to be in the company of those that we agree with, we can not learn anything from those who already share our points of view.

Real political discussions are conducted over decades - centuries even - and throughout our lifetimes what we contribute to them is in many respects what we have inherited from those now dead and will bequeath to those yet unborn ... the Democratic approach to " political discussion " is in most respects utterly un-real, as can be witnessed by watching BBC Parliament where the votes upon issues of critical importance have already been decided by the whips weeks or months or years beforehand - or even just a few minutes beforehand. Perhaps some lone MP who is passionate about the issue stands alone in the House of Commons making speeches into thin air until Mr Speaker is prodded from his slumbers to call for a division and then ... hundreds of the lazy idle Demockeratic little buggers come crawling out of their corridors to file dutifully through the lobbies whilst not even knowing what they are voting upon ... all they do is to vote for their party, right or wrong, as in a war : Democracy is but that - a war fought with ballots not bullets - and therefore it is not political.

In recent years I started sending out these Bastille Day e-cards but I have not sent out any as yet this year, may be in an hour or so : but what is presently available for me ? Usually the free e-cards are pretty bland, but it occurred to me to knock up a collage of images from them as this year's card ... and perhaps slap " Y Dydd Rhydd " across it ... gosh ... that does sound pretty lame ... even from me ...

http://www.someecards.com/ecards/bastille-day/?filter=usercards

http://www.meme4u.com/ecards/holidays/bastille_day/

http://www.americangreetings.com/ecards/bastille-day

http://frenchseams.com/28-amazing-photographs-of-bastille-day-fireworks-at-the-eiffel-tower/

http://bastille-day.funmunch.com/

http://www.lisabuiecollard.com/2014/04/q-quatorze-juilliet-bastille-day-in.html

http://happyfathersdaygreeting.com/bastille-day-party-supplies.html

http://www.ryngargulinski.com/indexdraw.htm / http://www.ryngargulinski.com/drawcards.htm

http://theresacardforthat.tumblr.com/

... several more : these images are mostly taken from American celebrations of Bastille Day, and around the edges are some cynical jokes about it.



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Subject: Y Dydd Rhydd : Bastille Day - collage + map
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 19:27:57 +0000

Dear Friends of The People in Wales and The World,

I do not know whether any of you that I know less well will be taking the opportunity to meet up with me for Bastille Day.

Since this is usually just a handful of friends I am a little perturbed lest hundreds turn up, but I rather doubt it ...

I celebrate Bastille Day every year whatever and I regard it as THE day to celebrate Republicanism on the whole world over.

Attached is a collage of images mostly taken from American celebrations of Bastille Day and I came across this v-card ...

http://www.rubberchickencards.com/ecards/bastille-day/2132/

... which is our own take upon being " The Illuminati " ... incidentally - " Lleuadigion " basically translates as " Lunatics " ...

... the conversation of course will depend upon which lunatics turn up ... in a really mad mood we might go up to Groeswen.

I enclose a map of the location of the proposed Y Daydd Rhydd / Bastille Day pic-nic at 7pm Tuesday 14th July 2015 : we will be somewhere close to the obelisk and will go to the nearby Court House pub around 9pm ( or sooner if it rains.)

Regards,

David B Lawrence

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Ugh ... half an hour before ... was it launch or self-destruct ? ... I can never remember ... something to do with pressing buttons or something I think ...

You know how when you want to be sure that everything will run smoothly the following day you just make sure that everything is ready the night before, and I wanted to just grab that scan and ... no ... the three-in-one devil-in-the-drawer decided that it might like to update itself just before I did that and then it just did not know its own self ... seven hours later neither did I - but there is a certain therapy to be got out of swearing and shouting at stupid little mechanical creatures which only know their programming and can only repeat the same things over and over and over and over ... and it is also good therapy for dealing with computers, printers, mobile phones etc.

So when I hd finally coaxed the thing to understand itself I had entirely lost my entire night sleep over it only to find that there was no ink in it ... grrrr ... but being stupid with tiredness and with a good friend to drive me safely to a hospital where I was not only X-Ray'd but Y-Rayed, Z-Rayed and W-Ray ... I got to a library and printed out some of these in order to have some kind of visual input into this evening's conversation ... but I bet I will forget my specks ... perhaps that might be a good idea because I passed this one back and forth between Paint and Inkscape and it has not come out as I wished ... but besides this I hope to grab a bagful of some proper texts on Republicanism for those who have never read them and ... oh - hellll ... two spellos in two lines in the muddle of it ? ... FIXED.



NO - BODGED.

Look - just go and buy a copy of Whitney R D Jones " David Williams : The Anvil and The Hammer " ISBN-10: 0817303480 ... and please note that this had to be published in America - in Alabama - to the ever-lasting shame of his homeland ... but then Alabama simplY has fewer ignorant, prejudiced, politically bigoted Red-Nicks.

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And the afterword ... Laughing ... now this is why I favour French restaurants ... raining when we arrived and given that no-one appeared to be standing or sitting near the column we opted for the pub where we could sit under an umbrella and keep an eye out for any lost souls ... and after a pint and a bit of a food throwing contest we returned to pay our respects to David Williams by bawling out the Marseillaise - oh, OK - we were actually falling about giggling whilst gathered together over a mobile phone which I swear was making up some other Marseillaise and was surely only one lyric ahead of us as we mumbled several very unfamiliar verses which went on and on and ... with a smile, our duty done, we headed back to Cardiff where the girls were preening themselves over their score in the pub quiz - as if they could really do without us ...

This was the version of La Marseillaise which ' Adamsam ' ( on this board ) ensnared us into singing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIQSEq6tEVs

La Marseillaise was the marching song of a provincial army arriving to defend Paris and was taken up by the cheering citizens as part of their expressions of gratitude ... Mirielle Mathieu's versions seem to be popular : there is a sort of sense that it might be being sung by women exhorting their menfolk to victory ... but it is also an expression of that aggressive side of French nationalism which in demanding unity has occasionally been turned on the Bretons for not being enthusiastically French enough ... but then of course, we will always have Casablanca ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIxOl1EraXA ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTsg9i6lvqU

... I like Bastille Day because of the origins of La Fete Nationale in La Fête de la fédération in 1790, one year after the relatively minor disturbances of 1789 which resulted from failed harvests rather than planned insurrections ( although intentional protests like storming The Bastille were part of it,) everybody was ecstatic with the idea that the French Revolution had not been the bloody civil war which had led to the United States of America, that The People in France were as they assumed themselves to be : the most civilised, The New Rome ... so they united together on " The Wheelbarrow Day " to build themselves an earthen arena and then not only held a vast pic-nic but invited literally anybody they could think of from all over France and Europe to a holiday : a day off - so I would like to guess that The Welsh in Paris almost certainly referred to it as " Y Dydd Rhydd."

Fête de la fédération 14 juillet 1790 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd1Hk7Dn1gY

In fact I have there by serendippydous accidentalism just discovered some of the original footage of the 1790 La Fête de la fédération on youtube : and now you can see for yourself how happy everybody ... well, obviously this may have been heavily edited by French neo-royalists for propaganda purposes ... or ... perhaps that was a pre-post-modernist reconstruction ?

La Marseillaise definitely looks better without words but with fireworks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tsS2HfopM4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrrvYMOixPc ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5BXPWt5zEE

OH-NO !!! ... I'VE GOT IT ALL WRONG ? ... SURELY NOT ? ... I DID NOT THINK SO : Y DYDD RHYDD FFRANGEG - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycLVNFE-iWM

Perhaps I only like the 14th because my friends also know this and send me suitable Bastille Day cards, texts, etc whilst knowing full well that I will not be too chuffed to receive pictures of the military parades - and nor are most of The People in France either : they meet with their friends and take the day off - " Y Dydd Rhydd." ... which, if you can pardon my Wengeglais, is ... " La Journée Libre."


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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Visionary-Madness-Matthews-Influencing-Machine/dp/1583947175



I have actually just finally read the rest of Mike Jay's book ( being short of time I tend to have books around for reference only and I very rarely get to read a book from cover to cover, at least actually in the order intended.) " A Visionary Madness " is the latest USA edition which I ordered because of the introduction by Oliver Sachs, but it has actually gone through several editions under other titles such as " The Heir Loom Gang " and " The Influencing Machine " and I guess that it is best to keep track of the various editions etc through Mike Jay's website which has this essay about James Tilly Mathews on it ... meanwhile I have been making inquiries as to where Mathews originated from in South Wales, probably Swansea I suspect ...

http://publicdomainreview.org/2014/11/12/illustrations-of-madness-james-tilly-matthews-and-the-air-loom/

Illustrations of Madness: James Tilly Matthews and the Air Loom

Mike Jay recounts the tragic story of James Tilly Matthews, a former peace activist of the Napoleonic Wars who was confined to London’s notorious Bedlam asylum in 1797 for believing that his mind was under the control of the “Air Loom” – a terrifying machine whose mesmeric rays and mysterious gases were brainwashing politicians and plunging Europe into revolution, terror, and war. ... [ ... C'MON - WE KNOW FROM OUR OWN EXPERIENCE IN THE 1980s THAT ALL OF THIS IS PERFECTLY PLAUSIBLE : KINNOCK KNOCKED 'EM OUT WITH HIS FARTS AND WHEN THEY WERE STRUGGLING BACK INTO CONSCIOUSNESS BLAIR UTTERLY MESMERISED THEM ] ... Not everyone, however, believed that Matthews was mad. Haslam’s diagnosis had been contested by other doctors, and the governors of Bethlem had distanced themselves from it. ... Matthews’ beliefs had their roots in his implausible but true story. A political activist and peace campaigner, he had become involved during the French revolution in clandestine efforts to head off the looming war between France and England. Shuttling between London and Paris, he had remarkable success in persuading the moderate faction of the French government to commit to a peace plan, and he had met several times with Pitt and Lord Liverpool, his secretary of war, to propose an alliance with them against the Jacobins and the Paris mob. ...


[ ... I CAN NOT TAKE TOO MUCH FROM THE ABOVE - IT HAS VERY GOOD ILLUSTRATIONS TOO, AND YOU CAN IMMEDIATELY SEE THAT PERHAPS MATHEWS WAS COVERTLY CRITICISING THOSE WHO HAD UNLAWFULLY IMPRISONED HIM - BUT OBVIOUSLY HE WAS HELPLESS, SO HE WAS USING RIDICULE, LURING THEM INTO AGREEING THAT AN IMAGE OF THEIR OWN BEHAVIOUR PRESENTED BACK TO THEM WAS INSANE ? ...]


... Ah - ha ... I have just learned from his website that Mike Jay has been involved in making or advising about this short video -

https://vimeo.com/113601286 ... The Air Loom - Leo Bridle

The Air Loom, from Leo Bridle Plus 8 months ago / via Dropbox All Audiences

"In some cellar near London Wall, a gang of villains assail me by means of a machine"

The story of James Tilly Matthews, a patient in Bedlam who believed his thoughts were being controlled by a machine.

All frames were printed out, messed with and scanned back in. The warp effects were made by shining a video projector through a bowl of water and filming the refractions.

Made for The Wellcome Collection - in collaboration with Mike Jay.

digitalstories.wellcomecollection.org/pathways/1-mindcraft/2-airloom/index.html


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I ought to write a bit a about James Tilly Mathews separately, but since I have been writing about him here I will add these bits in from various emails since some people think that pursuing this history is simply mad ... here is some recent correspondence around a teasing letter to a magazine ... it began with " The Peace Pill " - Mike Jay has written a lot about this sort of thing -

From:
To:
Subject: FW: The Peace Pill
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 17:57:30 +0000

http://smartdrugsmarts.com/episode-86-pharmacology-of-morality/

Home » Fringe » The Pharmacology of Morality

Jesse takes a deep dive with Dr. Molly Crockett into the world of moral decision-making. A recent studyshows how two common medications can sway moral judgments, and Dr. Crockett provides an up-close look into the experiments’ design and its conclusions. Could we be inadvertently chemically altering our moral intuitions more than we realize ?

09:27 Jesse introduces Dr. Molly Crockett.
11:58 A background on pharmacology and moral judgments.
13:52 Results of the behavioral study - emergence of (hyper)altruism.
15:08 Getting deeper into the design of the experiment.
17:00 Level of interaction between the participants in the experiment.
18:38 Pain value of shock vs the amount of money.
20:05 Pain threshold for most participants.
21:21 Results of the experiment using Citalopram and Levodopa.
27:26 Unintended side-effects of pharmacological intervention.
30:43 Dr. Crockett's future plans with moral enhancement.
33:01 A final word of caution.


Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 16:16:48 +0000
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Subject: The Peace Pill

Dear Editor,

In 1814 Edward Wakefield, the Quaker campaigning for the reform of " Bedlam," met its most famous inmate James Tilly Mathews who had been confined there since 1797 after being arrested in the gallery of the House of Commons for shouting " TREASON ! " at Lord Liverpool. Few people who had ever met Mathews believed him to be mad : one of the many theories about him is that he was deliberately driven mad whilst confined there in order to prevent him from revealing that The United Kingdom had been taken into decades of warfare despite an offer of peace by The French Republic ...

[ COUNT = 100 ]

Yes - that this was the " dodgy dossier " scandal of 1793 and Bedlam was being used as the 18c equivalent of " Guantanamo Bay." In " A Visionary Madness " Mike Jay suggests that this Republican from Wales should be reclaimed as our first hero by The Peace Movement - which also had its origins in Wales during the Napoleonic Wars and was first founded by Quakers, Unitarians and Republicans.

[ COUNT = 65 ]

Wakefield compared Bedlam's regime unfavorably with that of The Retreat, although the latter also at times resorted to locking doors and using physical restraints ... now here is an untrue story which I invite others to explain ... Shortly after The Retreat opened, a refugee calling himself Monsieur Foucault arrived at its door bringing with him a strange remedy for the madnesses within : a simple pill which once administered could restore everybody to their true selves, able once more to think and behave both morally and ethically ... and therefore - if it could only be manufactured in sufficient numbers and distributed widely enough - it would be able to bring an end to all wars ...

[ COUNT = 111 ]

David B Lawrence

[ COUNT = 276 ... I LIKE THE LAST SENTENCE - BUT WITHOUT IT COUNT = 250 ... EDIT ? ]

[ I AM INVITING THE READERS HERE TO FINISH OFF THE LETTER FOR ME : PERHAPS YOU NEVER SUSPECTED ME OF BEING CAPABLE OF BREVITY ? ]

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Subject: FW: The Peace Pill
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 17:57:30 +0000

Dear XXXX

I do not think that MMMMM will publish this letter - they do not like the historical connections between Republicanism and Quakerism - but this touches upon things which interest you ...

... You will understand that I do not necessarily write in an utterly responsible way for my purposes : I am not an historian. ... I have long been aware of Mathews because I like David Williams.

BTW ... I am sure that you will know more about the connections between them than I do ( e.g. lots of laudanum ! ) ... but one important aspect of this is The Peace Movement which coalesced during the Napoleonic Wars and continues

http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-PRIC-TRE-1784.html

http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-WILL-EDW-1747.html

http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s3-THEL-JOH-1764.html

http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-RICH-HEN-1812.html

http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/11733623.Peace_protester_in__final_act__at_Greenham_Common/

... and there is the unique " Temple of Peace " etc in Cardiff and so on and so forth ...

... anyhow, I hope that you like my philosophical joke of sorts ...

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Subject: James Tilly Mathews : a hero of the peace movement ?
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015

Dear Friends,

of interest I hope - even written fairly properly for a change with a few full stops thrown in just to make it look more posh.

This is strictly about history but with a philosophical joke thrown in, and I really do recommend Mike Jay's historical books.

This is Mike Jay's website which has several good articles - http://mikejay.net/james-tilly-matthews-and-the-air-loom/

- and no, I have not read any of his books about the history of taking drugs - and no, I do only take prescribed medications.

( Yes, I have pointed out to doctors that cigarettes and Guinness used to be available on a National Health prescription.)

Some people who rarely hear from me may be receiving this because I deem it or I am hoping it to be of interest to them.

Regards,

David B. Lawrence

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Subject: James Tilly Mathews : a hero of the peace movement ?
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:53:16 +0000

Dear XXXX ( to whom I occasionally make proposals for programmes )

the origin of the modern Peace Movements in Britain and Ireland lie in the Republican movements of the 1790s, especially in Republicanism in Wales, and in his book " A Visionary Madness " - about the Welsh tea merchant James Tilly Mathews who tried very hard to stop the war between The United Kingdom and The Republic of France - Mike Jay says on page 249 :

" James Tilly Mathews was not a prophet. He was a gifted, perhaps fragile individual who suffered intensely, and for little if any reward. If any group were to claim him as a posthumous hero it should really be the peace movement .."

I would be interested to hear this claim debated by other historians of the Napoleonic Wars, especially any French ones.

I once had an exchange of emails with Mike Jay because I like his books and this book gave me an idea for the following correspondence which began with a letter to XXXXXX in which I reworked a certain philosophical conundrum as " The Peace Pill " and then from this email address I forwarded the same but with a bit of historical commentary to XXXX.

I hope that you find this to be an interesting question, and if you do not like the Republican or Quaker connections you could always - without mentioning my proposed question - explore some other aspect of the story by talking to Mike Jay.

Yours Sincerely,

David B. Lawrence


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[ THEN SINCE I WAS MENTIONING HIM SO LIBERALLY I THOUGHT THAT I OUGHT TO SAY SOMETHING TO MIKE JAY ... AND I RISKED JOKING WITH HIM TOO ... ALWAYS TANTAMOUNT TO STUPIDITY ... HE SENT ME A NICE REPLY ... AND THEN OF COURSE I THOUGHT THAT I WOULD MAKE A SHORT RESPONSE ... WPS ... IT WENT A BIT LIKE THIS ... ]

On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 David B Lawrence ...

... XXXX ... http://www.rubberchickencards.com/ecards/bastille-day/2132/

... ( I am not trying to strike up a pally correspondence here - I celebrate Bastille Day & you have written about The Illuminati ) ...

... [ I SUSPECT THAT WAS SELF-DECEPTION ] ...

... ( I belong or belonged to a drinkin', discussin', demonstratin' group we named " The Cardiff Illuminati " - founded circa 1984 ) ...

... David B. Lawrence

[ PROBLEM : WITH GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ETC I RECKON IT TO BE FAIR GAME TO PUBLISH ANY CORRESPONDENCE ... BUT WITH PRIVATE CORRESPONDENCE I GENERALLY TAKE IT THAT SHORT COMMENTS CAN BE QUOTED, OFTEN ANONYMOUSLY, BUT THAT OTHERWISE IT HAS TO BE WITH PERMISSION - BUT YOU MIGHT GUESS WHAT MIKE SAID FROM MY REPLY, BUT POSSIBLY GUESS WRONG - AND HIS REPLY WAS SHORT : SO I REASON THAT ON THIS OCCASION I CAN QUOTE HIS REPLY ... NOTE - MIKE IS NOT ENDORSING MY POLITICS !!! ]

Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:14:06 +0100
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Thanks David - yes, very apposite !

I would love to find more connections between Matthews and the other peace activists of the period (including Quakers). I'm sure there were many as it was a small and tightly knit milieu, dominated by dissenters of various stripes. Williams' memoir is the only source I've found that mentions him, and he was of course anxious to play down the connection ...

all best

Mike

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:35:29 +0000

Dear Mike,

I am glad that you enjoyed the joke : I was organising a pic-nic at the David Williams memorial and that was a god-send ...

http://repwblic.informe.com/14th-july-bastille-day-2015-y-dydd-rhydd-dt1197.html

... I like to present " Y Dydd Rhydd " literally " The Day ( of being ) Free ( from ? ) " ( i.e. my re-jigging of Bastille Day ) as " a day free from " politics i.e. a day when people forget their differences and sit down together for a meal and to socialise with people who hold very different views of things, whom they might normally never meet in their little sectarian factions ... and because everybody complains about my preference for French restaurants it is evolving into a pic-nic, which is very appropriate because that is exactly what the very first Bastille Day in 1790 was - a massive and rather aimless pic-nic ...

Did I register you as having written something about John Thelwall, or associating with the John Thelwall Society ?

I had the good fortune to be in Llyswen whilst some building work was going on in the big house there and the builder who was a local pointed out some stonework that he had just uncovered under the floorboards and he reckoned that this was the remains of Thelwall's hermitage, buried beneath the red brick mansion. I also have a sort of embarrassing problem : I was one of the last to see John Thelwall's gravestone intact and I raised the alarm that it was being split by frost but I live in Cardiff ... the next time I saw it a large part had fallen off but lay intact in the long grass but the gates were locked and I am very lame and unfit and was not sure of what I could do if I got over the railings, so I raised the alarm again ... and so I borrowed a car and made a deliberate journey back and ... as I predicted, they mowed the graveyard and shattered the pieces ... however ... I am the non-too-proud and furtive possessor of some pieces of an historic jigsaw puzzle in stone ...

The John Thelwall Society have started to make available a lot of very interesting stuff ... but one thing associated with this business of The Peace Movement having its roots in Republicanism which I do not think that many are yet picking up on is that The Animal Rights Movement was erupting out of this melting pot of ideas as well, and although I have not yet pinned down any explicit philosophical-political treatise about it as yet ( because I am a mouthy marginalised person with little opportunity to do any proper research because I am caught up in other things ) - besides William Blake's " satanic mills " and Wordsworth, Southey etc admiring the natural world - The Environmental Movement was starting too : all connected.

David B. Lawrence

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My mind seems to be mesmericalyy inflated with the intoxicating idea of James Tilly Mathews as The Greatestical of All Pacifical Republicanators ... any way - here is a photo-montage of images from Mike Jay's article in The Public Domain Review and the video which was made in collaboration with him and funded by The Welcome Collection ... you will notice that some videos turn up from a folksy couple of pluckers who call themselves " The Air Loom Band " ... search " AIR LOOM " and you'll get a synthesiser ... search " INFLUENCING MACHINE " and you ought to get the BBC but instead you get Brooke Gladstone ( who then simply denies everything - even the UFOs ... yet at present " Repwblic " is a UFO - an Un-Funded Organisation - and we definitely do exist and are influencing people.) ... AH : DID I MENTION THIS LECTURE BY MIKE JAY GIVEN ON THE SUBJECT OF " THE INFLUENCING MACHINE " - ? ...

" The Influencing Machine " Mike Jay - lecture given to Nottingham Contemporary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_wPtGBfEc0

http://publicdomainreview.org/2014/11/12/illustrations-of-madness-james-tilly-matthews-and-the-air-loom/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc1LOPoSE3A



... AND BY THE WAY ... NOTE THAT " THE PUBLIC DOMAIN REVIEW " IS PUBLISHED BY " THE OPEN KNOWLEDGE FOUNDATION " AND IT DEPLOYS THESE VARIOUS HANDS WHICH ARE CULLED FROM 19C POLITICAL SYMBOLISM : PERHAPS FROM THESE EXAMPLES YOU CAN NOW SEE WHY I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE GOING BACK TO USING " THE OPEN HAND " OR " Y LLAW AGORED " - BECAUSE AS IN THESE EXAMPLES ABOVE YOU CAN GIVE THEM SYMBOLIC OBJECTS TO GRASP.
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