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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:33 am    Post subject: 2018 RALI CILMERI RALLY 2018 - Saturday 8th December Reply with quote

Are The Whites still going to turn up and keep The Faith with the other seven colours - The Purples, Reds, Oranges, Yellows, Greens, Blues - and The Blacks ?

Oh - The Holly and The Ivy when they are both full grown_Of all the trees that are in the wood - we choose The Ivy as our crown_For whilst The Holly /is The/our Banner/ -.it is Red, /and/ White and /also/ Green_Bright blood, with its bloody fruits, its Bitter gall and all of it edges/spikes/sides /so/ keen_We still prefer the undying twine which / will bring / always brings the mighty / The Almighty / down.


Oh - The Holly and The Ivy - when they are both full grown_
Of all the trees that are in the wood - we choose The Ivy as The Crown -_
For whilst The Holly is Y Faner - it is /The/ Red, /and/ White and Green -
With those/its bloody fruits, this bitter gall and these edges keen/spikes oh/so keen
We still prefer The Undying Twine which always brings The Almighty down ...

with its/this bloody fruits, /this/ bitter gall and spikes so / edges keen_
We still prefer the undying twine which / will bring / always brings the mighty / The Almighty / down.
it is Red, /and/ White and /also/ Green_Bright blood, with its bloody fruits, its Bitter gall and all of it edges/spikes/sides /so/ keen_
We still prefer the undying twine which / will bring / always brings the mighty / The Almighty / down.


CILMERI 2018 ?

Oh ! - The Holly and The Ivy - when they are both full grown -_
Of all the trees that are in the wood - we choose The Ivy as The Crown :_
For whilst The Holly is Y Faner - it is The Red - and White - and Green -
With those bloody fruits, this bitter gall and these edges - oh ! - so keen -
We still prefer The Undying Twine which always brings The Almighty down ...

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not sue for copyright !

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From - http://www.gurfal.com/index.htm

Amserlen Cilmeri - 2018 - Cilmeri Timetable

Dydd Sadwrn - 08 / 12 / 2018 - Saturday

10.00. Ymgynnull tu allan i Dafarn y Tywysog Llywelyn a theithio mewn gosgordd o geir i Eglwys Llanynys am Wasanaeth Coffa (11.15) a fydd yn cynnwys cerddoriaeth o'r cyfnod a marwnadau Llywelyn. Gyda chaniatad caredig y Person ac Wardeiniaid yr Eglwys.

10.00. Meet outside the Prince Llywelyn Inn then travel in a motorcade to Llanynys Church for a Llywelyn memorial service (11.15) including the period music and elegies to him. By kind permission of the Vicar and Church Wardens.

13.00. Dychwelyd i Dafarn y Tywysog Llywelyn am ginio.

13.00. Return to the Prince Llywelyn Inn for lunch.

14.30. Ymgynnull tu allan i Dafarn y Tywysog Llywelyn a Gorymdaith at y Garreg Goffa.

14.30. Assemble outside the Prince Llywelyn Inn and Procession to the Memorial Stone.

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14.45. Rali Llywelyn ger y Garreg Goffa:

· Croeso - arweinir gan Geraint Roberts a Dave Peterson

· Cyd-ganu Dros Gymru’n Gwlad (GEIRIAU YMA)

· Areithiau Gwladgarol gan Wleidyddion Lleol a Chenedlaethol

· Cantorion y Gymru Rydd - Yma o Hyd

· Cilmeri (Gerallt Lloyd Owen)

· Araith gan gynrychiolydd Cymdeithas yr Iaith Gymraeg

· Cilmeri (Harri Webb)

· Areithiau Gwladgarol gan Unigolion Eraill

· Cantorion y Gymru Rydd

· Pibydd y Gymru Rydd – Geraint Roberts

· Gosod Torchau

· Yr Anthem Genedlaethol


14.45. Rali Llywelyn at the Memorial Stone:

· Welcome - led by Geraint Roberts and Dave Peterson

· All sing Dros Gymru’n Gwlad (WORDS HERE)

· Patriotic Speeches by Local and National Politicians

· The Free Wales Singers - Yma o Hyd

· Cilmeri (Gerallt Lloyd Owen)

· Speech by representative of Cymdeithas yr Iaith Gymraeg

· Cilmeri (Harri Webb)

· Patriotic Speech by Other Individuals

· The Free Wales Singers

· The Free Wales Piper – Geraint Roberts

· Gosod Torchau

· The National Anthem

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17.00. Sesiwn Werin yn Nhafarn y Tywysog Llywelyn.

17.00. A Folk Session in the Prince Llywelyn Inn.

20.00. Noson Lawen - yn y Neuadd Arms, Llanwrtyd o 8.30yh

20.00. Noson Lawen - at the Neuadd Arms, Llanwrtyd from 8.30pm


Dydd Sul 09 /12 / 2018 Sunday

10.00. Gosod Torchau yng Nghlwb Golff Llanfair ym Muallt i Filwyr Cymru a’u teuluoedd

10.00. Wreath laying at Builth Golf Club to the Soldiers of Wales and their families

11.00. Castell Aberedw

11.00. Aberedwy Castle

Gwasanaeth Coffa yn adfeilion Abaty-Cwm-Hir

Service of Commemoration in the ruins of Abaty-Cwm-Hir

Darlith Flynyddol Ymddiriedolaeth yr Abaty

Annual Lecture of the Abbey Trust

Cyfarfod Cyffredinol Blynyddol Ymddiriedolaeth Abaty-Cwm-Hir

Annual General Meeting of Abbey-Cwm-Hir Trust

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Dewch yn llu, gwisgwch iorwg a pheidiwch anghofio dillad cynnes ac esgidiau cryfion !!!

Come in droves, wear ivy and do not forget warm clothes and boots !!!

gurfal@gurfal.com


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I DECIDED TO POST UP AN EARLY NOTICE FOR Y DYDD RHYDD - July 14th 2019

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=6902#6902


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Dear

you jest in vain : you know how jumpy people can be in response to your mercurial behaviour - I am but a poor opinionator : have mercy !

After the confrontation at Cilmeri in 2012 Dafydd and Marianne are less keen upon it - although they have gone to join in with other events.

Personally I prefer our " pub picnic party " at the David Williams memorial : we would like to see " Y Dydd Rhydd " as The Summer Gathering.

It is a nicer venue for people with small children, provides more public exposure in the centre of population and it has better transport links.

I do not exclude anything happening in Caerffili on the same day and in the same location lest anybody else wants to improvise something.

AND - OF COURSE - " RALI CAERFFILI " IS A " CIV " EVENT - AS OPPOSED TO " RALI CILMERI " AS A " MIL " EVENT : SUMMER VERSUS WINTER !

And - of course - " Rali Caerffili " is all Internationalism and Pacifism as opposed to " Rali Cilmeri " which involves Nationalism and Militarism.

Not that I object to anybody of any opinion turning up : this year four of us met at the obelisk, sang The Internationale and went to the pub.

We will be keeping " Y Dydd Rhydd " for the eighth year on the evening of Sunday 14th July 2019 and it would be nice to have your company.

Perhaps I should make up a leaflet about it to take to Cilmeri because I am worried that the file system in " Y Repwblic " is now disintegrating.

It is difficult to decide whether we have suffered a series of cock-ups or conspiracies : I failed to update phpBB but it may have been a vandal.

As you know I nearly abandoned " Y Repwblic " as a failure until I realised that it had a large overseas audience : now banned in 50+ states ?

Mike Penddu founded the forum using the title of my pamphlet - in order to rid of me from Cymru Rydd's company ? - on 7th January 2007.

I ought to ask Gethin if he can recount the history of " Rali Cilmeri " for me in order to pair it with " Rali Caerffili " in that proposed leaflet …

You know my phone number - you know where I live - you know that I am usually around and that I am eating out a lot recently : ask me out.

Yours Faithfully,

David B Lawrence.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are times when I go up to Cilmeri_When I wish that it was some other rally_For there are things which are wrong_In The Land of Proems and Strong ... _Humour ... Should we not bury Union Jacked coffins - each valley ?

There are times when I go up to Cilmeri_
When I wish that it was some other rally_
For there are things which are wrong_
In The Land of Proems and Strong ... _
Humour ... Could we carry Union Jack'd coffins - each valley ?

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !

[ 20-11-18 - I AM THINKING OF FURTHER VERSES TO FOLLOW AFTER THE ABOVE ]
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The poem above made me smile for a while - " Union Jack'd coffins " puts me in mind of The Potential Protest in The Situationist Style ... I have said a number of times that when The Cambria Band leads ( Y Teulu ) with The White Eagle on The Black Flag flying it is a good spectacle which invokes the imagery of The Free Wales Army ... but does this come up to scratch ? ... I have said a number of times that the idea that The Free Wales Army was - or is - a bunch of paramilitaries is questionable : posing as paramilitaries whilst appearing on television does not convey the idea of a serious conspiracy to overthrow The Government in Wales ... I keep on perceiving Cayo and Coslett and Co as Situationists and whilst they had been soldiers their " war " was psychological in nature and rather witty ... that it was politics as art ?

[ LOOKING FOR THAT FAMOUS TELEVISION INTERVIEW WHICH UTTERLY TOOK THE PISS ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxEiJekU2pg - Free Wales Army

[ I CAN NOT FIND IT : BUT THAT WAS TOP OF THE SEARCH - A CURIOSITY : ACCENTS ? ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2XrkrV50VY - New Free Wales Army (Newydd Byddin Rhyddid Cymru)

[ THE YOU TUBE SEARCH I USED WAS " free wales army television interview " ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84Hyn23nGMc - FREE WALES ARMY

[ POSTED BY " MEIBION CYMRU " QUOTING - POSSIBLY WRITING ? - THIS WIKIPEDIA PAGE ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Wales_Army

[ A LOT OF THIS MATERIAL APPEARS TO BE GETHIN AP GRUFFYDD'S STUFF ]

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So ... who and what are " The Free Wales Army " - old, new or otherwise ?

Personally I prefer to leave it to " Mil " to explain themselves - lest " Civ " be confused with them - lest we offend them - or mis-underestimate them ... but I would like you to compare the " old FWA " with their European contemporaries back in the 1960s ... The Situationists ... in Paris - in The Days in May - in 1968 ?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situationist_International

The Situationist International (SI) was an international organization of social revolutionaries made up of avant-garde artists, intellectuals, and political theorists, prominent in Europe from its formation in 1957 to its dissolution in 1972 ... The intellectual foundations of the Situationist International were derived primarily from anti-authoritarian Marxism and the avant-garde art movements of the early 20th century ... They rejected the idea that advanced capitalism's apparent successes - such as technological advancement, increased income, and increased leisure - could ever outweigh the social dysfunction and degradation of everyday life that it simultaneously inflicted ... Essential to Situationist theory was the concept of the spectacle, a unified critique of advanced capitalism of which a primary concern was the progressively increasing tendency towards the expression and mediation of social relations through objects ... Another important concept of Situationist theory was the primary means of counteracting the spectacle; the construction of situations, moments of life deliberately constructed for the purpose of reawakening and pursuing authentic desires, experiencing the feeling of life and adventure, and the liberation of everyday life ...

... The term "Situationist" refers to the construction of situations, one of the early central concepts of the Situationist International; the term also refers to any individuals engaged in the construction of situations, or, more narrowly, to members of the Situationist International. Situationist theory sees the situation as a tool for the liberation of everyday life, a method of negating the pervasive alienation that accompanied the spectacle ... The Situationists argued that advanced capitalism manufactured false desires; literally in the sense of ubiquitous advertising and the glorification of accumulated capital, and more broadly in the abstraction and reification of the more ephemeral experiences of authentic life into commodities. The experimental direction of Situationist activity consisted of setting up temporary environments favorable to the fulfillment of true and authentic human desires in response ... The Situationists maintained a philosophical opposition to all ideologies, conceiving of them as abstract superstructures ultimately serving only to justify the economic base of a given society; accordingly, they rejected " Situationism " as an absurd and self-contradictory concept ...

Political period ( 1963–1968 )

... During this period the SI began having more and more influence on local university students in France. Taking advantage of the apathy of their colleagues, five " Pro-Situs," Situationist-influenced students, infiltrated the University of Strasbourg's student union in November 1966 and began scandalising the authorities ... The Situationists played a preponderant role in the May 1968 uprisings, and to some extent their political perspective and ideas fuelled such crisis, providing a central theoretic foundation ... While SI's member count had been steadily falling for the preceding several years, the ones that remained were able to fill revolutionary roles for which they had patiently anticipated and prepared. The active ideologists ( "enragés " and Situationists) behind the revolutionary events in Strasbourg, Nanterre and Paris, numbered only about one or two dozen persons ... This has now been widely acknowledged as a fact by studies of the period, what is still wide open to interpretation is the "how and why" that happened ... Though the SI were a very small group, they were expert self-propagandists, and their slogans appeared daubed on walls throughout Paris at the time of the revolt ...

The Spectacle

... The Spectacle is a central notion in Situationist theory, developed by Guy Debord in his 1967 book, The Society of the Spectacle. In its limited sense, spectacle means the mass media, which are "its most glaring superficial manifestation ... In the society of the spectacle, the commodities rule the workers and the consumers instead of being ruled by them. The consumers are passive subjects that contemplate the reified spectacle. ... As early as 1958, in the Situationist manifesto, Debord described official culture as a " rigged game " where conservative powers forbid subversive ideas to have direct access to the public discourse. Such ideas get first trivialized and sterilized, and then they are safely incorporated back within mainstream society, where they can be exploited to add new flavors to old dominant ideas. This technique of the spectacle is sometimes called recuperation, and its counter-technique is the détournement ... A détournement is a technique developed in the 1950s by the Letterist International, and consist in " turning expressions of the capitalist system against itself," like turning slogans and logos against the advertisers or the political status quo. Détournement was prominently used to set up subversive political pranks, an influential tactic called Situationist prank that was reprised by the punk movement in the late 1970s and inspired the culture jamming movement in the late 1980s ...

Art and politics

... The SI rejected all art that separated itself from politics, the concept of 20th-century art that is separated from topical political events. The SI believed that the notion of artistic expression being separated from politics and current events is one proliferated by reactionary considerations to render artwork that expresses comprehensive critiques of society impotent. ... They recognized there was a precise mechanism followed by reactionaries to defuse the role of subversive artists and intellectuals, that is, to reframe them as separated from the most topical events, and divert from them the taste for the new that may dangerously appeal the masses; after such separation, such artworks are sterilized, banalized, degraded, and can be safely integrated into the official culture and the public discourse, where they can add new flavors to old dominant ideas and play the role of a gear wheel in the mechanism of the society of the spectacle ... According to this theory, artists and intellectuals that accept such compromises are rewarded by the art dealers and praised by the dominant culture ...

Psychogeography

" The word psychogeography, suggested by an illiterate Kabyle as a general term for the phenomena a few of us were investigating around the summer of 1953, is not too inappropriate. It does not contradict the materialist perspective of the conditioning of life and thought by objective nature. Geography, for example, deals with the determinant action of general natural forces, such as soil composition or climatic conditions, on the economic structures of a society, and thus on the corresponding conception that such a society can have of the world. Psychogeography could set for itself the study of the precise laws and specific effects of the geographical environment, whether consciously organized or not, on the emotions and behavior of individuals. The charmingly vague adjective psychogeographical can be applied to the findings arrived at by this type of investigation, to their influence on human feelings, and more generally to any situation or conduct that seems to reflect the same spirit of discovery." -

- Guy Debord, Introduction to a Critique of Urban Geography


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Here is an objective brief overview of the course of recent history : not all Situationists ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmF0_gfou6w - Welsh Terrorists | Stuff That I Find Interesting

You might well ask why I want to have anything to do with Cilmeri Rally if I am a " Civ " i.e. a " Civil / Civic Republican " and there are people there who may be " Mil " i.e. " Militant / Militarist Republicans " ... Well it is like being a real fan of The Game in Welsh Political Society ! ( " WPS ! " ) ... Imagine yourself turning up to support your team - you know what football team supporters are like : they are loyal to their own teams despite the fact that they never win and they are always on the brink of relegation ... supporting The Republicans in Wales is like supporting Wrexham F.C. ... you buy your ticket and take your place in The Stand and you accept the possibility that there may be soccer hooligans who turn up for the explicit opportunity of starting a fight with the supporters of the visiting team - or they come with the visiting team - or they come dressed in the colours of either or neither just for the opportunity of starting a fight ... It is not just myself who takes this risk as a " Civ " it is also the elected representatives of the various major political parties who also come to The Rally in Cilmeri to give speeches : it has been a fixture - albeit a fourth division benefit fixture - played out every December for over fifty years ... Cilmeri Rally is a very sociable event - except when certain persons turn up convinced that they are attending a Nazi Rally ... and sing nasty little ditties behind my back about killing Jews ... now : if I can put up with that - what fears can The Rally in Cilmeri possibly hold for you ?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[ http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1383&highlight=bullsxit ]

From Asamux - " not a Republican " - playing pwnco - he strongly opposes Bullsxit ...

T’was Brexit, and the slithy Gove
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe,
All flimsy were the Faragists,
And the Rees-Moggs outgrabe.

Beware the squirming Gove, my son –
The lying tongue, the claws that catch,
Beware the frumious Boris bird –
Out for whatever it can snatch!

Who now will face it down, my son –
The Brexit-Beast with eyes of flame?
Oh who will seize a vorpal sword,
And cleave the monstrous thing in twain?

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Absolutely lovely - on your head son ! = hey - you are prepared to play pwnco - but would you mind me republishing that below this ? = http://repwblic.informe.com/viewpoint.php?p=6911#6911 = it is about Cilmeri, Situationism and I am thinking of proposing " The Spectacle " of a " Union Jack'd Coffin " - ?

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That file cannot be found - my internet tells me *

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Do this for me = try again with = http://repwblic.informe.com/2018-rali-cilmeri-rally-2018-saturday-8th-december-dt1549.html

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Yes that works

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Care to read through it = especially the last post that I just made - and consider whether to add your poem to it or allow me to do that - you are Asamux on it?

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Yes you can publish my poem but I'm not reading all that tiny text. You should use Facebook!

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I decided against Facebook at the very outset when City State created a Facebook page for Y Repwblic and I asked him to take it down when I found it plastered with " >|< " and links which associated us with Ultra Right groups. Facebook would publicly link them to members of my family and friends who have no connections with The Republicans in Wales and who strongly object to my being an advocate of even conventional Republicanism i.e. " Civ " - " /|\ "

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Oh well, if people did that I can see what you had against it. But you need a proper public blog format where things you write can be easily accessed and read by others.

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Pen Ddu chose phpBB format and began the bulletin board " Y Repwblic " leaving me to administrate it in the ways that we had advocated on ctd.6.forumer.com when Comrade Fluffy Dragon failed to maintain it properly. Facebook came along at that same time and the others preferred it and so we parted ways : I think that this was very fortunate because " Civ " and " Mil " - Civic / Civil / Moral Force and Militant / Militarist / Physical Force - are different.

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[ POST SCRIPT = http://repwblic.informe.com/viewpoint.php?p=6911#6911 = IS STILL BEING REPORTED AS A " FILE NOT FOUND " EVEN WHEN APPROACHED FROM THESE LINKS ON OUR OWN BULLETIN BOARD : BUT BY USING " SEARCH " ON THE TOP LEFT OF THE BAR AND ENTERING " SITUATIONISM " THIS TOPIC THREAD THEN RESULTS ... WE HAVE BEEN DEBATING VARIOUS PROBLEMS FOR MONTHS ON " Y REPWBLIC " INCLUDING MOST ADMINISTRATION FILES BEING DAMAGED SO THAT THE FRONT PAGE OF THE WEBSITE ANNOUNCES " Y REPWBLIC " TO BE " LOCKED UP " - EVEN IF YOU REGISTER AND LOG IN - AND EVEN WE HAVE TO USE " SEARCH " TO FIND OUT WHERE OUR OWN PIECES OF WRITING ARE BEING HIDDEN FROM PUBLIC VIEW ... IS THIS A VANDALS' CONSPIRACY ( BY ZIONISTAS ANGRY WITH ME ? ) OR A COCK** UP ? ( PHPBB PROVES TO BE DIFFICULT TO UPDATE EVEN WITH THE ADMIN WORKING.) ]

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[ COCK UP : I AM STILL PLAYING WITH THE IDEA OF ADOPTING " THE COCK IN WALES " AS A SYMBOL FOR " Y REPWBLIC " AS A FOIL TO " ERYR WEN " I.E. " >|< " DEPICTED AS BLACK ON A WHITE FLAG FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE { INTERNATIONALISTS*** AND } PACIFISTS FROM " THE LAND OF THE CHICKEN " ... THE VERBAL PUN IS ON " LE PAYS DU GALLES " AND THE VISUAL PUN IS ON A REFERENCE TO " LE COQ SPORTIF " - THE FRENCH PUN IS ON THE LATIN " GALLUS " WHICH SORT OF MEANS BOTH " GALLE " - " GAUL " - AND " COQ "- " COCK " ... HENCE THE SYMBOL OF THE COCK WAS ADOPTED TO REPRESENT BOTH THE FRENCH REPUBLIC AND ALSO THEIR RAUCOUS CRYING UP FOR THE DAWN OF THE GLORIOUS DAY ... BUT UNFORTUNATELY OF COURSE IT ALSO REPRESENTS THE FRENCH ARMY AS " THE FIGHTING COCKS " WHOSE ORIGINS LIE IN THE FRENCH MILITIAS WHICH STORMED OUT OF PARIS TO CONFRONT THE FOREIGN INVADERS.]

https://www.calverts.coop/at-the-sign-of-the-black-spread-eagle/



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[ THIS IS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY THAT " THE WHITE EAGLE ON A BLACK FLAG " AND " THE BLACK EAGLE ON A WHITE FLAG " ARE EQUALLY ANCIENT AND BOTH VALID REPUBLICAN FLAGS - GILES CALVERT PRINTED MOST OF THE " RELIGIOUS REPUBLICANISM " PAMPHLETS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEVENTEENTH CENTURY IN LONDON - LEVELLERS, DIGGERS, RANTERS, QUAKERS ETC - AND THESE WERE ALL " PRINTED AT THE SIGN OF THE BLACK SPREAD EAGLE IN LOMBARD STREET " - THE BLACK EAGLE WAS THE SYMBOL OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE AND THUS IT WAS APPARENTLY ADOPTED BY THE AGITATORS IN THE NEW MODEL ARMY TO BE THE SYMBOL OF THE HOLY BRITISH COMMONWEALTH : IT COULD BE THAT THE SYMBOLISM WAS THAT " THE BLACK EAGLE " WAS " THE PARLEYMENTARY ARMY " AND " THE WHITE FLAG " WAS " THE FLAG OF PARLEY " I.E. THE FLAG OF PEACEFUL POLITICAL SOLUTIONS - " Y FANER WEN O'R REPWBLIC YNG NGHYMRU A'R Y BYD " ... AND - YES - I KNOW MY WELSH IS ... PLEASE LEAVE US ALL ALONE TO PLAY OUR GAMES WITH THE WORDS - DAI REPWBLIC.]

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parley

/ˈpɑːli/Submit

[ !!! - SUBMIT - ??? - NO WAY : THE DEMOCRATS IN WALES BURIED OUR SUBMISSION TO THE SILK COMMISSION = http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=1685#1685 ]

noun

1. a conference between opposing sides in a dispute, especially a discussion of terms for an armistice.

" a parley is in progress and the invaders may withdraw " [ = " CIV " ? ]

synonyms : negotiation, talk(s), meeting, conference, summit, discussion, dialogue, conclave, consultation, deliberation, colloquy;

verb

2. hold a conference with the opposing side to discuss terms.

" they disagreed over whether to parley with the enemy " [ = " MIL " ? ]

synonyms : discuss terms, talk, hold talks, speak to each other, confer, consult with each other, negotiate, deliberate; informal pow-wow

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I HAVE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF FUN THINKING ABOUT WHAT TO WRITE FOR CILMERI IN 2018 ...

" the two parties were willing to parley "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tC4hKe7X3w - Pirates of the Caribbean - The curse of the Black Pearl - Parlay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnn3xOc9WMQ - Parlay? ( Pirates of the Caribbean : At World's End, 2007 )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odITdWALhBY - Parlay

THE COSMOS IS TURNING UP APPROPRIATELY PIRATICAL METAPHORS TODAY ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Hc7lkRwBI - Pirates of the Caribbean 3: Best of Jack Sparrow

... STILL LAUGHING AS I PUT A STOP NOW FOR TODAY : BUT WILL YOU LAUGH AT

... THE LAST POST ?



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POST SCRIPT : Y Repwbligwyr yn Y Gogledd might like to research those who ended The Principality in Wales -

https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clenennau - https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Owen,_Clenennau

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Owen_(Royalist)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheriff_of_Merionethshire - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheriff_of_Caernarvonshire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Maurice = The Republican in Wales who invented " Great Britain " - ?

" [William Maurice] was a personal friend of James I, and induced him to assume the title of King of Great Britain "

[ CAVEAT EMPTOR : The Welsh Party ( " Y Plaid Cymry " ) in The Parliament in England c1550 - c1750 began as Monarchist Republicans and ended up as Aristocratic Republicans : they always opposed Democratic Republicans.]

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Another fleeting thought is passing through my head ... before The Last Post ... I know that a lot of Nationalist Republicans will think that this is a vile idea - but - you know their complaint about Wales not being represented in The Union Flag : it consists of The Cross of Saint George which was laid over The Saltaire of Saint Andrew after the The Union of The Crowns of The Kingdoms of Scotland and England in 1603 ... and in case you did not know this obscure fact - this was what enraged Sir William Maurice of Clenennau M.P. for Caernrfonshire : that The Parliament in Scotland repealed their anti-English laws and The Parliament in England repealed their anti-Scottish laws - but The Parliament in England did not repeal the anti-Welsh laws in 1603 - " The Thirty Three Laws " - in order to make everyone equal before The Law in The United Kingdom ... Hence The People in Wales remained legally the inferiors of The People in Scotland and The People in England until - ah ! 1624 - and what was more upsetting they were counted to be legally inferior to The English in Wales itself ... Sir William Maurice strongly opposed this ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_Laws_against_Wales_1402

... The Principality in Wales was technically still outside of The United Kingdom and although it was subjected to The Government in The Parliament of England - in which there were The Members of Parliament for The Thirteen Counties in Wales - The King of England still possessed The Principality in Wales as a separate realm in which - through The Prince in Wales ? - he could also legislate in arbitrary ways and levied some hefty one-off taxes when he was short of money without having to seek The Permission of The Parliament in England in which Sir William Maurice MP sat ... Henry VIII had had difficulty obtaining The Permission of The Parliament in England and so when he decided to turn England into The Protestant State he seized upon the excuse of making Wales into The Protestant State as well in order mostly to plunder The Monasteries in Wales for his own personal pocket but also to secure England from The Catholic State next door which had the deep water harbours that his own father had used to invade England : hence The Annexation in Wales in The Laws in Wales Acts of 1535 and 1542 ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_in_Wales_Acts_1535_and_1542

... But Henry VIII also seized the opportunity to use The Principality in Wales to create The Members in Parliament in Wales : they were firmly under the thumb of all of his Tudor successors - they knew that if they did not vote against The Members in Parliament in England and keep The Monarch in The Money then The Prince in Wales would simply take the same amounts of money in taxes from only Wales i.e. either each Welsh taxpayer would be paying roughly fifteen times as much taxes as each English taxpayer or - even worse - The Prince in Wales would use spurious legal devices such as " purveyance " in which he demanded goods and services at knock-down prices and thus extorted money in lieu of this as a " composition " in order to raise money for his father ... in other words the greedy King James I of first Scotland and then England also - and his son who would become King Charles I of England and Scotland but was in 1612 made The Prince in Wales - were hated and feared in The Principality in Wales ... Hence the following events were part of what led to the shift in The Balance in Power within The Parliament in England which fed into The Wars in The Three Kingdoms ... because this is the story of how The Principality in Wales finally ceased to exist in 1624 - and the explanation for why The Cross of Saint David is not part of The Union Flag ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purveyance

... Sir William Maurice of Clenennau M.P. for Caernrfonshire made several representations to King James I of England and King James VI of Scotland ( and presumably Prince Charles of Wales ) who was the same king but The Kingdom of England and The Kingdom of Scotland were still separate realms ( as was The Principality in Wales although it was in a strange position politically with its MPs sitting in The Parliament in The Kingdom in England which mostly administered both of these realms ) ... These representations were unsuccessful because they could not persuade The English MPs in The Parliament in England to support The Welsh MPs who in order to obtain relief from The Thirty Three Laws passed since The Rebellion in Wales in 1399 - 1415 had to cross The Floor in The House of Commons and oppose both The King in England and The Prince in Wales ... But then came into the matter The King in England's ambition to wage war against The Catholic State in Spain : he needed money - and The Parliament in England refused to raise any further taxes ... The Welsh MPs finally had the means to strike a deal with The English MPs : they would cross The Floor in The House of Commons and vote against the war in return for the repeal of The Thirty Three Laws ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Wales - that page does not tell the full story ...

... But The Price of The Freedom in Wales proved to be very dear : The Final End of The Principality in Wales as a separate realm ... The flash point which ignited The Powder in The Plot were the issues of " purveyance " and " composition " i.e. if The Principality in Wales was to be restored as a separate realm then these might prove to be impossible to get rid of because The Parliament in Wales had not had the power to refuse The Prince in Wales - but The Parliament in England did have the power to refuse The King in England ... The English MPs agreed to rescue The Welsh MPs from The Prince in Wales by destroying the remaining legal separations between The Realms in Wales and England : if The King in England wanted his taxes then The Prince in Wales must give up his independent power over The Principality in Wales ... " The Act of Union Between England and Wales " can not be found in The Statute Book in The Parliament in England because it does not exist : it was a subtractive process in which " The Henry VIII Clauses " in The Laws in Wales Acts of 1535 and 1542 were removed in exchange for The Final End of The Principality in Wales ...

... not The Principality but this continued - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Wales_and_the_Marches ...

... The Principality in Wales thus came to The Final End with an obscure clause buried in an omnibus bill which was finally given The Royal Assent as - Statutes 4 & 5 James I, c.1; 21 James 1, cc. 10, 28 section 1 - at the end of The Happy Parliament and thus The People in Wales who had gone to bed the night before in The Principality in Wales woke up the following morning in The Kingdom of England - on The Maunday Thursday in 1624 ... some have disputed this and say that it was on The Bad Friday in 1624 ... The Cock Crowed and fell out of The Tree ... The Sun Rose on The Glorious Day ... and The People in Wales went about their normal business without even knowing that they had become The People in England ... When they finally found out about this over two hundred years later after somebody managed to decipher The English Lore in The History Books ... well ... The People in Wales were pretty miffed and demanded to know why The Democrats in Wales and Westminster had never told them that they were The Traitors in The Nation ... Of course The Prime Minister has refused to answer any of my questions about this and just cites The Official Secrets Act back at me and reminds me that I too am a signatory ... but if you do not believe my story - go read " The Politics in The Principality " by Lloyd Bowen.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Politics-Principality-1603-1642-Studies-Hardcover/dp/0708319068/

The Politics of the Principality : Wales, circa 1603-1642 - by Lloyd Bowen

" This study provides a wholly new perspective on Welsh politics in the troubled decades leading up to the Civil War. This is the first study for over half a century to examine politics in Wales during this period, and draws upon a wealth of new material in local and national archives. The book examines the structures of early seventeenth century Welsh politics through episodes such as parliamentary elections and the impact of the Thirty Years' War on the Principality. It also offers a reappraisal of the controversial religious and financial innovations of Charles I in Wales and an innovative discussion of Welsh allegiance in the early stages of the Civil Wars. This study presents a new interpretation of provincial politics in early modern Britain and explores Wales's unique position within the seventeenth century state."

Hey - I forgot to mention The People in Objection to The Prince of Wales' " mise stress " ... and The War with The English in Drapery and Butter ... and the 17c's lousy weather ... >sigh< ... you should be taking this seriously ...

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Oh - yeah ... I was going to talk about The Union Flag not mentioning Wales.

You can debate as to whether Wales ever had a national flag prior to various modern claims for one e.g. " Y Ddraig Goch " was apparently devised by Henry VII in order to con The Aristocrats in Wales to support him by using a flag supposedly derived from Cadwaladr's mythical flag which was " Y Ddraig Goch " - which basically conveys the idea of " The Bloody Dragon " which we think refers to The Roman Cavalry standard The Draco which was not a flag but " The Dragon's Head " - hence " Arthur Pendragon " ? - which was a hollow copper or brass mythical animal's head on possibly a hollow pole whose open top was placed inside of it with " The Dragon's Mouth " funnelling air over it thus making a very spooky sound which was possibly played as a kind of flute using The Holes in The Poles ... The Draco had a sort of purple windsock which trailed behind it and this might have been waved around like a streamer with the whole thing making a noise like that children's plastical tubular toy ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draco_(military_standard) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draco_(lawgiver)

[ GOBSMACKED : THAT CAN NOT BE THE COINCIDENCE IN WALES - " Y DDRAIG GOCH " IS A VISUAL PUN ON " THE RULE OF LAW " - ASTOUNDING ... I BET THAT WAS EITHER DR WILLIAM PRICE - OR IOLO MORGANNWG ? ]

... Y Ddraig Goch is red - Henry VII was The Red Rose in The Wars of The Roses and he placed The Red Dragon on the right in Royal Coat of Arms - the side of honour - standing upon a green mound which is sprouting The Tudor Red and White Roses which signified his marriage alliance with Elizabeth of York - The White Rose ... Y Faner Wen - " The Holy Banner " had been The Battle Flag in Gwynedd - " The Holy Land " ... you have to just try to get yourself into the mindset of how The Bards in Wales made medieval propaganda ... and before Henry VIII used Y Ddraig Goch there was Owain Glyndwr making a bid to bend his family's heraldry to present himself as the true successor of the claim of Owain Llaw Goch to be The Prince in Wales ... Glyndwr's personal heraldic flag is now being displayed by some Nationalists but it was not a national flag and nor was his battle flag which was Y Ddraig Aur placed upon Y Faner Wen which apparently was The Battle Flag in Wales - but not a national flag : it was akin to raising The Red Flag to declare a war or The Black Flag to declare " no quarter - a fight to the death " on The Pirate Ship ... which is the implied meaning of Yr Eryr Wen - I suspect that it refers to The ( old ) Slogan in ( English ) Republicanism - " Death or Liberty ! " ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owain_Glynd%C5%B5r

... The Golden Cross upon The Black Flag was the only possible " civilian national flag " in Medieval Wales but Y Faner Dewi Sant o'r Cymru was just an heraldic shield used by some minor part of The Church in Wales as far as we know - but on the other hand the fact that The Silver Cross upon The Black Flag is The Banner of Saint Piran of Cornwall and Wales and Cornwall in Constantine's Holy Roman Empire were parts of The Roman Province of Brittania Prima is suggestive : The Patron Saint of The Medieval Borough in Cardiff was also Saint Piran ... flags like The Banner of Saint George were first used on medieval merchant ships not by military navies or armies - so it is possible that medieval merchant ships from Wales and Cornwall were flying The Black Flag with either The White Cross of Saint Piran or The Golden Cross of Saint David on them in ports like London where The White Flag with The Red Cross of Saint George was first flown on merchant ships : the latter has an honourable and peaceful origin in trade and commerce - but it was not the first : it may have been designed as a ripost to The White Cross on The Red Flag of Denmark ... so this might be an old echo of The Viking Kingdom in The Dane Law V The Saxon Kingdom in The Angle Land ? ... Oh - did I fail to mention The English ? ... The White Cross on The Red Flag was also The Flag of The Holy Roman Empire ... Guelphs V Ghibilines used " England V Denmark " ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guelphs_and_Ghibellines#White_and_Black_Guelphs

" ... During the 12th and 13th centuries, armies of the Ghibelline communes usually adopted the war banner of the Holy Roman Empire - white cross on a red field - as their own. Guelph armies usually reversed the colors - red cross on white. These two schemes are prevalent in the civic heraldry of northern Italian towns and remain a revealing indicator of their past factional leanings. Traditionally Ghibelline towns like Pavia, Novara, Como, Treviso and Asti, continue to sport the Ghibelline cross. The Guelph cross can be found on the civic arms of traditionally Guelph towns like Milan, Vercelli, Alessandria, Padua, Reggio and Bologna. ... "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1794_Treason_Trials - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Thelwall

... Now when The Republicans in Wales in The 1790s came under pressure after The Treason Trials of 1794 in which John Thelwall was one of the defendants and Iolo Morgannwg when visiting them in prison first declared himself to their jailors to be The Bard of Liberty ... The Republicans in Britain and Ireland went underground as The United Irishmen, The United Scotsmen, The United Englishmen - and " The United Britons " which I am sure my hunch that they were The Republicans in Wales is correct : this is the basis upon which I talk about " The United Republic " which was opposed " The United Kingdom " ... When Napoleon invaded Italy he was greeted by The Republicans in The Cisalpine Republic bearing The Tricolour in Italy : The Green, White and Red - " The Roman Colours " of " The Three Tribes " which had overthrown The Sovereignty in The King and founded The Republic in Rome ... Napoleon made his brother The King in Italy after founding a series of " Sister Republics " there before declaring The French Empire in Europe ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Bonaparte

... The French Imperial Family of Bonaparte adopted The Golden Eagle on The Blue Flag but in Italy his brother was also displaying The Green, White and Red - and was not very good at ruling so Napoleon replaced him and he ended up living in exile in The USA where The Republicans in Mexico adopted The Roman Colours plus The Eagle to try to induce him to become The Emperor in Mexico ... he politely declined : he wanted The Quiet Life in The USA ... Meanwhile back home in blighty The Republicans in Wales were not at all happy about The Glorious Day in France beginning with The Picnic in The Park becoming The National Razor and then ending up as The Bloodbath in Europe ... but some were enthusiasts and mad for it : somebody local - probably Bowen - guided a fleet of French ships to Y Carreg Wasted in 1797 and landed The Black Legion - Le Seconde Légion des Francs - and all hell broke loose within The Republicans in Wales who then split into two opposing camps - those who much preferred to dress in colourful Welsh Plaid - and those who preferred to dress up in the latest French fashions - typically a sort of mourning suit consisting of Black with White Stripey Bits - a dull sort of Welsh Pride ... Come to The Rally in Cilmeri on The Day in December and you can witness this continuing argument - now being conducted between " Civ " and " Mil " ... It is now difficult to go The Funeral in Wales without being denounced as a " terrorist " ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fishguard

... Any how : the important point is that The Green, White and Red Tricolour in The United Kingdom was generally turned into The Red, White and Green Triband to signify that although The Republicans in Wales, England, Scotland and Ireland sympathised with The Internationalist Republican Association they rejected The Republicans in France who by that time had inverted their Red, White and Blue Tricolour in order to signify their distress about The United Kingdom not liking them using the same colours as The Union Flag - and so Le Tricolore was re-born in 1794 as Blue, White and Red - Liberty, Equality and Fraternity - and The Army in France started dressing in Blue and declaring that " Liberty leads The Republic ! " ... The United Republic in Europe bit the dust at Waterloo ... The Monarchy in France was restored but only upon The Conditions in La Charte i.e. The Original Picnic in The Park was valid, The King had to be advised by The Parliament and The Bourgeoisie in The Money got The Vote ... Not only The People in France were not happy about this - neither were The People in Wales, England, Scotland and Ireland who wanted The Charter too ... they had not fought at Waterloo to defend The Vote in France but not England ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_Rising

... In 1838 The Chartists in Wales raised a new flag and subscribed their names to The Petition ... The Aristocrats in Parliament did to The Petition what The King in France did to La Charte in 1830 : wiped their arses on it ... The People in France staged The Second French Revolution in 1830 and chose The New King ... The People in Wales already had The New Queen so they wrote to ask her to tell The Aristocrats in Parliament to behave properly since they all ought to be The Victorians in Britain and Ireland by now - as did The People in England, Scotland and Ireland - but Hugh Williams had given them this nice new flag to use and it was a pity to give up and waste it - and they were offended by The New Queen not replying ... so thousands of The Chartists in Wales dumped The Red, White and Green Triband in The Bin and raised The Blue, White and Green Triband - with The Sun in May on it, because this flag referred not only to Iolo Morgannwg's Gorsedd but also The Flag in Argentina from where some of them had just returned from assisting General Belgrano liberate it - and went down to Newport to post a better letter ... hundreds of thousands of Moral Force Chartists refused to sign it ... " Mil " versus " Civ " again ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartism

... Into The Argument in Chartism between Physical Force and Moral Force - between " Mil " and " Civ " - between " Blue, White and Green " and " Red, White and Green " - came The Third Force in between : The Complete Suffrage Union ... they had never liked the idea of " The Charter " in the first place because everybody knew that " La Charte " had led to The Second French Revolution ten years before - they " knew " that armed insurrection would ensue - and anyway : " The Six Points " was their political programme in the first place so why did anybody have to demand them all at once in " The Charter " ? ... " Because it is like The Magna Carta in Medieval England " ... " Look : we have this nice new flag - we took your Blue - and your Red - and we mixed them together as - " The Purple, White and Green Triband " - and - " - " Well ... you can use The Imperial Purple in England butty - but we are not having Purple on The Flag in Wales - and " - " Ooooh - Purple : that is The Colour in The Flower in The Leek ! - The Heralds in England have chopped its head off - see ? - We stick it back on and then Wales' Leek will be every bit as good as England's Rose and - " - " I do not want to represented by a vegetable !!! " - " Well then : why do you want to vote for one ??? " - " Because it is Democratic - that's why ! ... oh ... I see ... >sigh< ... "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffrage

... You know full well that I am enjoying this at your expense ... The problem with The Flags in Republicanism - Tricolours and Tribands - is that somebody can quickly make one to carry into somebody else's demonstration and then use it for their own purposes e.g. riot, rebellion, revolt, re-upholstery ... And The Red, White and Green became a liability when The Physical Force Chartists could so easily substitute it for their Blue, White and Green ... and so The Republicans in Wales after The Third Call for Revolution in 1848 which they refused to listen to came up - I believe - with a clever ruse : they were always very interested in history and very proud that Henry VII was Welsh - sort of - and had defeated The Corrupt Aristocracy in England - sort of - and that he had carried a fiendishly difficult to reproduce Red, White and Green " Royal Flag " which they might persuade The Victorian Prince in Wales to adopt ... and that would really annoy The Aristocrats in Westminster who would not give them The Vote : they were all classically educated in The Public School - they would know that The Roman Colours were being displayed yet if they tried to seize these flags it would be " treason " to The Royalty in The Family ... What a Situationist Stunt that was : Y Ddraig Goch became The Official Flag in Wales - whereas in The English Law it is still illegal to display any flag which infringes upon The Sovereignty in The Monarch i.e. only The Union Flag and God Save The Queen are legal - waving Y Ddraig Goch around and singing Y Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau is - technically - The Crime in ... Treason Felony !!! ... You just know what The Democrats in Wales are going to do after Brexit : ban rugby ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radicalism_(historical) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radicals_(UK)

... Now that description of Y Ddraig Goch being The Fussy Flag sort of finally brings me towards my subject - and after such a pleasant series of " short cuts " as Dafydd / Moritiz would call these without the epithets " pleasant " or " series " - The Union Flag ... It sort of dates from The Royal Decree made on The Twelfth of April 1606 but they have had disputes as to the design and who has right to use it and how and why right down to the present day in which there is pretty much a free for all in The Open Market but occasionally somebody official intervenes to complain about somebody using The Wrong Flag Pole ... Apparently Y Ddraig Goch was accidentally run up The Right Flag Pole one day and had an accidental precedence over The Union Flag ... But let bygones be bygones - eh ? ... Let us imagine that The Flag of Saint David ought to have been combined with The Other Flags - either with The Flag of Saint George in 1535 or 1542 - or with The Union Flag of 1606 at The Final End of The Principality in 1624 ... The most likely end result after The Flag of Saint Patrick was added in 1801 - with The Red Saltire on White of Ireland ( actually originally expressing Ireland's Catholic allegiance by using a version of The Flag in Burgundy ) set within and counter-changed with The Flag of Saint Andrew - would be the same in the four quarters of The Present Union Flag ... but The Flag of Saint David would presumably also be counter-changed with The Flag of Saint George in the same way : the central cross would be a symmetrical composite and on its upper vertical upright The Flag of England would take precedence on The Right Hand Side i.e. closest to The Right Pole - so for the observer this would be on The Left Hand Side ...

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... Now I think that I have had enough of this typing for a while and I want to sit down and try to knock up an image of that - but - I can not post it here yet because I still can not get new images into my Photobucket account ... However I may share this image if I can make it tonight with a few others via email so you may get to see it a bit later ... somewhere else perhaps ...

... AND " THE LAST POST " ? ... MY PROPOSED STUNT DISTURBS ME A LITTLE : IT CAN WAIT ...


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I need to snag and fix up the above post ... This therefore is not The Last Post ... I am enjoying this too much ...

Whilst I went out to get some money and find some food I was walking around thinking about The Republicans in England : they had been having a poor time of it for decades until Peter Kellow turned up brimful of that peculiarly quiet kind of polite English zeal for Real Republicanism and founded The Democratic Republican Party ... This has flourished for a while but is in the doldrums at the moment because some ignorant little ~~~~ decided that Republicanism in England was absolutely intolerable and decided to spike their cannon ... which was hardly necessary because one of The Symbols in Republicanism in England is a broken cannon - smashed to pieces by The Lion in England who then triumphs over it ... The " Civs " in England received an unexpected setback recently when they were about to enter their representatives into an election : the name of their party was de-registered on the grounds that it resembled too closely the name of another party which had been registered ... but apparently that other political party can not be produced : it has no members besides presumably the person who registered it - deliberately ? ... I think that this was a just another of those dirty tricks which they try on me also ... tales we could tell - eh ? ...

http://www.democraticrepublicanparty.co.uk/DRP%20NEWSLETTER/NEWSLETTER%20No%20136%20website.html

... The DRP has lost thousands of pounds and thousands of hours work over several years in honestly playing The Game in Democracy by creating their unique electoral brand and had to change their name to " Sovereign Republic " which from my point of view is crazy : I argue that Sovereignty is the non-principle of the arbitrary exercise of The Power in The State and therefore it is opposite to and antagonistic to the only viable political principle which is The Rule of Law which strictly limits The Power in The State within agreed boundaries to prevent arbitrary government by making The Supreme Court more powerful than Parliament enabling The People to strike down bad laws so that the kind of tyranny which is exercised in The United Kingdom as a non-political system can at least be held in check ... The United Kingdom is ruled by an elected dictator who hires and fires The Cabinet to do their will whilst The Democrats in Wales and Westminster beg for The Scraps thrown to them from The Table in The Cabinet in Ten Downing Street : Republicans are opposed to the arbitrary non-principle of Sovereignty - so how can there be such a thing as a " Sovereign Republic " - ? ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereignty

... At the very best you can argue that De Res Publica - our shared understanding of The Public Interest - is described in the laws and policies which we create and therefore can be literally defined as The Rule of Law - and therefore argue that " Sovereignty is in The Law " ... But we - sorry : I - reject all of those ideologies based upon ideas such as " Sovereignty is in The People " or " Sovereignty is in The Crown " or " Sovereignty is in The Parliament "- along with " Sovereignty is in The Gun." Sovereignty always was a bad idea - and it is just a French idea from the 16c which has no foundation in The English Law - so we should put " Sovereignty in The Bin " for there is only The Rule of Law and The Will of The People to propose all good laws and to oppose all bad laws. ... Think of it this way : you can not argue that " Sovereignty is in The People " within The United Kingdom because we do not have Democracy - we have The Privilege in The Vote and that means that The Democrats in Westminster can simply decide that they do not want to ever be elected again and withdraw that and any other privileges which they please ... That is de facto " The Constitutional Law " of The United Kingdom as a non-political system : it has no constitution ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_law

... But of course you studied " The Constitutional Law " in university and you think that you were told that " Sovereignty is in The Crown in Parliament " ... but did you check The Statute Book ? ... That idea was cooked up by Walter Bagehot in his book " The English Constitution " which was originally a series of magazine articles in " The Fortnightly Review " running from 1865 -1867 ... yes : I can agree that the idea of " Sovereignty is in The Crown in Parliament " appears in that schoolboy text book but it is not to be found in The Statute Book in The Kingdom of England - or The Kingdom in Scotland - or The Kingdom of Ireland - and that is why he cooked the book : to assert the idea that even though The Majority in The People in Ireland wanted to leave The United Kingdom they could not ... Bagehot even insinuated that even talking about wanting Home Rule in Ireland was probably Treason Felony ... This is one of the strengths of Democracy : it peaceably confronts the idle loonies like Walter Bagehot with reality - but they then defend their daydreams with bullets when confronted with ballots ... Republicans deal in Realities : it is The Law which creates The Crown, The Parliament and The Democrats - " The Law is Sovereign " is a viable argument ... up to a point ... but we must not accept that The Rule of Law can licence The Power in The State to be used in an arbitrary way : The English Law must be got rid of ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_law

... The Republicans in England apparently have not even the desire let alone a plan to get rid of The English Law - they are probably like those odd Welsh Nationalist Republicans who want to elect Y Tywysog and are just being a bit sentimental about it - but The People in England like The People in Wales are suffering for the lack of decent legal system which works ... The People in Scotland and The People in Northern Ireland are doing little better - and The People in The Republic in Ireland are still being screwed by it despite leaving The United Kingdom a hundred years ago because they still use The English Law but have painted it green instead of red ... On a personal level this means that The People in Wales de facto have no access to a legal remedy if they are defrauded, robbed, burgled, raped, murdered or registered to vote ... We have these horrendous stories not only about The Laws in Wales not protecting The People in Wales but also about The Policies in Wales positively harming The People in Wales - and indeed apparently The People in England who happen to have wandered into Wales are also having unfortunate encounters with The Democrats in Wales ( let alone The Democrats in Westminster ) ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_law_(legal_system)

... This all tracks back into Welsh Political Society ! ( WPS ! ) ... Which is not at all the same thing as The Political System in Wales and Westminster but is the consequences of centuries of The People in Wales being ruled by The Hierocrats in The Dark Ages, The Monocrats in The Darker Ages, The Aristocrats in The Darkest Ages ... and now The Democrats in The Ages In Which You Can Not See Your Own Hand In Front Of Your Face Because They Have Nicked It ... Actually they are robbing The People in Wales of The Right To Live : as The Republicans in Wales what we mean by this is a human life - it begins with The Right Not To Kill because corpses have no use for all of The Other Rights - and Duties - which unfold from The Right To Life ... This is not Socialism - which was a spin off from The Republicanism in The Left - nor is it Fascism - which is a spin off from The Republicanism in The Right - this is not a series of guaranteed handouts nor a privilege to rob others : this is The Republicanism in Wales and The World as it was in The Beginning - when even The Republicans in England had two MPs in Westminster back in the 1870s ... when most of The People in England still did not have The Vote ... Oh - did I fail to mention The English ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_independence

... Think on those figures please : electoral support for The Parliament in England is regularly assessed at being around 60% - yet electoral support for The Parliament in Wales ... sorry - The Colonial Government in Wales ... was only around 50% or so and The Welsh Assembly only came into being on basically a fraction of one percent of a majority in The Referendum in 1999 - and just look at all of the good things which they have not achieved : we should be good neighbours and help The Republicans in England out a bit ... We can start by explaining to them how and why The Democrats in Wales and Westminster left us without The Court in Wales - by using Devolution instead of Revolution : we can then warn The People in England to refuse to accept The Theory of Evolution and insist upon The Theory of Re-Creation in Politics ... Lest they find out The Hard Way why The Democrats in England and Westminster do not like their legislation to be draughted by The Judiciary - they much prefer to draught their legislators into The Lobbies in The House of Commons and Y Senedd in order to prevent any scrutiny ... Then they will not find The Laws Made in England being struck down by the captive judiciary in The Supreme Court - who can not defend them either ... The trouble with The Republicans in England is that they do not know their own history - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1309 - and so many of them do not even know that they are The Republicans in England - yet ...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rise-British-Republican-Clubs-1871-1874/dp/1897856083/

... Now : The Republicans in Ireland turn up at The Rally in Cilmeri ... we have had The Republicans in Scotland there ... we have had The Republicans in America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand - oh, hell - A-Z : take your pick - but how many of The Republicans in England have turned up ? ... One ? ... I think that it is about time that we started telling The Republicans in England about the fun to be had by driving hundreds of miles to march together up to a remote field in the middle of The Winter in Wales to stand in sub-zero temperatures in rain, sleet, hail and snow for half an hour listening to us talk about how deeply run our feelings of affection for The Republicans in England and ... you know what I mean : they need a push - they need to be led - they need to be confident that they will find The Welcome in The Hillsides and that we have kept their home fires burning for them and ... I do really feel that we should be making it more obvious to The Republicans in England that if they show up one December afternoon they will be welcomed - and that we will let them buy as many pints for us afterwards as they want to in The Prince Llewelyn ... honestly : this is not a Wales v England thing - this is Republicanism in Wales !
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Re-read ... re-curse ... but there is always tomorrow for " The Last Post " ... and so I go to sleep in Y Repwblic ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yntk1Zi6iC4 - Will Durant - The Philosophy of Kant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_peace

" ... The term perpetual peace became acknowledged when German philosopher Immanuel Kant published his 1795 essay " Perpetual Peace: A Philosophical Sketch " ... Perpetual peace has had significant influence upon modern politics. Perpetual peace has been the foundation for peace and conflict studies, a relatively newly laid field which started in Europe around the 1950s and 1960s ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_Peace:_A_Philosophical_Sketch

Perpetual Peace : A Philosophical Sketch ( German : Zum ewigen Frieden. Ein philosophischer Entwurf ) is a 1795 book by Immanuel Kant.

Summary

In this essay, Kant proposed a peace program to be implemented by governments. The " Preliminary Articles " described these steps that should be taken immediately, or with all deliberate speed :

" No secret treaty of peace shall be held valid in which there is tacitly reserved matter for a future war "

" No independent states, large or small, shall come under the dominion of another state by inheritance, exchange, purchase, or donation "

" Standing armies shall in time be totally abolished "

" National debts shall not be contracted with a view to the external friction of states "

" No state shall by force interfere with the constitution or government of another state "

" No state shall, during war, permit such acts of hostility which would make mutual confidence in the subsequent peace impossible: such are the employment of assassins ( percussores,) poisoners ( venefici,) breach of capitulation, and incitement to treason ( perduellio ) in the opposing state "

Three Definitive Articles would provide not merely a cessation of hostilities, but a foundation on which to build a peace.

" The civil constitution of all states to be republican "

" The law of nations shall be founded on a federation of free states "

" The law of world citizenship shall be limited to conditions of universal hospitality "

Kant's essay in some ways resembles modern democratic peace theory. He speaks of republican, Republikanisch ( not democratic ) states, which he defines to have representative governments, in which the legislature is separated from the executive. He does not discuss universal suffrage, which is vital to modern democracy and quite important to some modern theorists ; later commentators dispute whether it is implied by his language, although many Enlightenment thinkers advocated a more aristocratic republicanism by men of letters. The essay does not treat republican governments as sufficient by themselves to produce peace : freedom of emigration ( hospitality ) and a league of nations are necessary to consciously enact his six-point program.

Kant claims that republics will be at peace not only with each other, but are more pacific than other forms of government in general.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWO_eojWezg - Santana - Samba Pa Ti (Live at Montreux 2011)

Oh - what a choice of bedtime listening after the soothing sounds of Santana ... I am now wide awake listening to this -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gigBZQEjF68 - Disagreement in the Political Philosophy of Spinoza & Rancière

You did not know that Spinoza is one of the most influential of The Republicans in History ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Spinoza = not very descriptive of his politics

Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy

Spinoza's Political Philosophy

First published Mon Apr 21, 2008; substantive revision Mon Oct 7, 2013

Steinberg, Justin, "Spinoza's Political Philosophy", The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Winter 2013 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.),

from = <https://plato.stanford.edu/archives/win2013/entries/spinoza-political/>

[ THIS IS VERY READABLE AND HAS A GOOD BIBLIOGRAPHY IF YOU WANT TO STUDY ]

[ REMEMBER THAT " COMMONWEALTH " IS THE OLD ENGLISH WORD FOR " REPUBLIC " ]

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spinoza-political/#HobSpiObl

2.2 Hobbes and Spinoza on Obligation

" ... By adhering to a strict naturalism about right and obligation and maintaining that “the sovereign power in a State has right over a subject only in proportion to the excess of its power over that of a subject” (Epistle 50), Spinoza, unlike Hobbes, places the burden of political stability on the sovereign rather than the subject (see Wernham 1958, 27). The commonwealth must be structured so as to promote compliance; when there is excessive vice or non-compliance, the blame must be “laid at the door of the commonwealth” (TP 5/3). So, whereas Hobbes argues that the sovereign is always vested with nearly absolute legislative authority, Spinoza claims that “since the right of a commonwealth is determined by the collective power of a people, the greater the number of subjects who are given cause by a commonwealth to join in conspiracy against it, the more must its power and right be diminished” (TP 3/9). If a sovereign is to maintain its right, it must legislate wisely, so as not to incite insurrection. So while Spinoza does not accord to the people a proper right of revolution, he proposes a naturalistic equivalent, since the right of the state is essentially constituted, and limited, by the power of the people (TP 2/17) (see Sharp 2013). ... "

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/spinoza-political/#GenAimSta

4.2 General Aim of the State

" Having established in the preceding chapters that anything that can be done is done by right, Spinoza turns directly the question of how the sovereign should exercise its power in Chapter Five, noting that there is an important distinction between doing something by right and doing it in the best way (5/1). Here his concern is just to delineate the general aim of the state on the basis of which he can give more fine-grained recommendations relative to regime forms (see 4.3). The fundamental aim of the state, according to Spinoza, is “peace and security of life” [pax vitaeque securitas] (5/2). To grasp what Spinoza means here we must try to understand what he means by peace. Spinoza rejects Hobbes' definition of peace as the “absence of war” (De Cive 1, 12), calling it instead “a virtue which comes from strength of mind” (5/4), or a “union or harmony of minds” (6/4). It is one thing for a state to persist or to avoid the ravages of war, it is quite another for the state to flourish. Spinoza makes this point by way of an organic metaphor:

' So when we say that the best state is one where men pass their lives in harmony, I am speaking of human life, which is characterized not just by the circulation of the blood and other features common to animals, but especially by reason, the true virtue and life of the mind. ' (5/5)

But if the aim of the state is peace and peace consists in the “harmony of minds” or the rational activity one might wonder how it is that the state could hope to achieve its end in light of Spinoza's skepticism concerning human rationality (1/5; 2/5; 6/1). How is it that the state can promote the civic virtue or “strength of mind” [fortitudo] on which peace depends (5/2, 5/3)? This is perhaps the central normative question of the TP (see Steinberg 2009). Spinoza addresses this question by way of offering institutional recommendations for each regime type. "

[ A VERY WORTHWHILE SUMMARY : I SKIMMED IT - YOU GO AND READ IT ]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Ranci%C3%A8re

Jacques Rancière (French: [ʁɑ̃sjɛʁ]; born 1940) is a French philosopher, Professor of Philosophy at European Graduate School in Saas-Fee and Emeritus Professor of Philosophy at the University of Paris VIII: Vincennes—Saint-Denis who came to prominence when he co-authored Reading Capital (1968), with the structuralist Marxist philosopher Louis Althusser ... Rancière contributed to the influential volume Reading Capital before publicly breaking with Althusser over his attitude toward the May 1968 student uprising in Paris; Rancière felt Althusser's theoretical stance did not leave enough room for spontaneous popular uprising ... Since then, Rancière has departed from the path set by his teacher and published a series of works probing the concepts that make up our understanding of political discourse, such as ideology and proletariat. He sought to address whether the working class in fact exists, and how the masses of workers that thinkers like Althusser referred to continuously enter into a relationship with knowledge, particularly the limits of philosophers' knowledge with respect to the proletariat. An example of this line of thinking is Rancière's book entitled Le philosophe et ses pauvres (The Philosopher and His Poor, 1983), a book about the role of the poor in the intellectual lives of philosophers. ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ignorant_Schoolmaster

" ... Rancière's philosophy informs his writing style. Rancière tells the story of 18th century French teacher Joseph Jacotot without explicit commentary. Translator Kristin Ross sees the book as uniting Rancière's archival-narrative and polemical styles (xxiii). She considers that the book may be a satirical polemic against modern sociology, targeting specifically the sociologists Pierre Bourdieu, Rancière's teacher Louis Althusser, and Jean-Claude Milner (xxiii). The book is a historical moment intervening politically in the present; this is effected by Rancière blurring his voice with that of Jacotot (xxi-ii). Rancière's choice to write the book as a story reflects his rejection of explication, teaching and writing which presumes an intellectual inequality between the writer and reader (xxii). Translator Kristen Ross writes: "The very act of storytelling, an act that presumes in its interlocutor an equality of intelligence rather than an inequality of knowledge, posits equality, just as the act of explication posits inequality" (xxii). The book is equally relevant to history as to philosophy of education; in the U.S. Rancière is best known among historians (xxi). ... "

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[ THE NEXT MORNING : 09.00 AM FRIDAY 23-11-18 ]

ugh ... woken by texts about an emergency miles away which I can not help with ... except to offer genuine sympathy : one of the issues which finally lit my blue touch paper and led to Daf / Moritz and I going to the " Stuff The Monarchy " weekend organised by Cymru Goch and my encounter with Pedr Lewis whose speech greatly excited me : finally we encountered somebody who was steeped in Real Republicanism and so I / we had a conversation afterwards which greatly excited Pedr and he demanded to know what I was going to do about my sharing his political opinions ... only I did not : agreeing with somebody upon The Moralities in Republicanism does not lead necessarily into agreeing upon The Ethicalities in The Republicanisms which others subscribe to ... and so as it gradually dawned upon me as to which Pedr Lewis I was agreeing with I came to feel The Green in The Gills ... The Young Man in The Dock in The 1950s ... one of those who destroyed The Welsh Republican Movement in The 1950s ... one of those who deconstructed The Republicans in Wales leading to hundreds of activists and thousands of sympathisers running off to join The Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament and War Resisters International and Cymdeithas Y Cymod as a way of firmly rejecting violence ... thus leaving " Civ " without any organised advocates.



https://thefriend.org/article/the-white-book-of-carmarthen

Note who is being entrusted with " The White Book of Carmarthen " - and in public : Dave Petersen - The Leading Republican in Cilmeri ... Perhaps you are one of The Wanna-Be " Welsh Republican Army " People in Wales - or at least in The Far Right in Wales who think that I am just one of those spinning The Undying Twine ... or that we to you are The Undying Whine of The Republicans in Wales in The Far Left ... but I would point out to you that The Problem in Welsh Republicanism is exactly The Problem in The Republicanism in Wales : we have a situation in which most of The People in Wales are utterly politically uneducated and do not know what Republicanism is because all that they have ever heard about it - or read about it - or seen about it - consists of The Propaganda in Wales made by The Democrats in Wales against The Republicans in Wales and most especially The Welsh Republicans ... and - even worse - there are The People in Wales and The World who actually believe in The Propaganda of The Dis-United Kingdom and think that Sinn Fein always was The Irish Republican Army and that their party is a normative example of Republicanism ... " Sinn Fein " are not : but I am not going to discuss here how they were subverted c1956 - at the same time as The Welsh Republican Movement - by The I.R.A. ? ...

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-welsh-nationalists-and-the-welsh-national-drum-band-are-led-by-sculptor-40281245.html

... Just in case you do not believe that Dave Petersen is The Leader in Cilmeri : as to whether he would own the label " Civ " I do not know - he most probably thinks that my description of the " Civ V Mil " argument is just unnecessarily divisive ... The Rule in General is that The Republicans in Wales do not publish personal photographs of other people - Republican or otherwise - who attend public demonstrations or rallies without their permission ... you will note that when I am at The Rally in Cilmeri I often do a circuit of The Speakers on The Twmp behind The Crowd in The Field in order to depict The Event in The Round without featuring any detailed close-ups of The Faces in The Crowd ... Usually in The Photographs in Y Repwblic you will just see me depicting the backs of those facing The Speakers - but The Cambria Band, Y Teulu, The Speakers are The Republicans in Public : they put themselves forward as The Public Republicans intending themselves to be photographed and actually ask The People in The Crowd to photograph them - and it is considered to be a courtesy to supply other people with copies of photographs and videos of The Contributions in The Public Realm - or to produce or destroy them on request - hence you will find photographs that have been taken by me being used by The People in The Black Faction ... Everybody is usually courteous towards each other ...

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11.30 AM 23-11-18

https://allianceparty.org/page/about ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Party_of_Northern_Ireland

... and then I found that I had my own minor crisis this morning which I ought to think about the potential consequences of ... But it is much nicer to think about The Republicans in Ireland ... no - I do not mean " The Reds in Ireland " i.e. Sinn Fein and all of its antagonistic splinter groups - nor do I mean " The Greens in Ireland " i.e. Fianna Fail and The Democrats in Ireland in general who have ruined that country by putting The Snout into The Trough ... I mean those who deal solely in facts and arguments and so in finding a place to insert The Lever in The Place to Stand can move The World ... If I lived in Northern Ireland I would probably vote - no, of course I would not vote - for The Alliance Party because as far as I am concerned they are the inheritors and defenders of The Republicanism in Ireland and The World ... They probably would not agree : using The Word would destroy their attempt to mediate between the two sides in The Troubles in Northern Ireland and The World ... But everything which they say and do seems to me to speak of " The Whites in Ireland " - of Love, Peace and Justice ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7CJzwrWRJE - Fintan O Toole - 'Challenging our thinking - a Shared Vision' - Fintan is surely an example of " The Whites in Ireland and The World " dealing in facts and arguments

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I STOPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT TO TAKE A CALL FROM EXEXEX WHO HAD DECIDED THAT SHE WAS BORED AND WANTED TO START A ROW ... FRANKLY I HAD NOT A CLUE WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT : SHE SEEMS TO THINK THAT BECAUSE WE ARE EDUCATED THEN WE ARE THEREFORE ENTITLED TO EXERCISE MORE POWER THAN PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ... ? ... THAT IS SURELY SOME FORM OF MEGALOMANIA ... THE RANTING OF THE POWERLESS : WHAT WE CAN DO - WE DO - NOBODY OWES US THE POWER TO HELP THE POWERLESS ... NUTS !
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NOT A GREAT DAY ... I DREAD THIS POST NOT WORKING OUT AS I WANT IT TO ...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-rWXkJilEk - Late Late Show Discussion 90th anniversary 1916 - note The Democrat in Ireland lying ? - watch this twice or stop it in order to read the viewers' comments on the strip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8iVuX6Ec2A - Home Rule, Violence & the Irish Question: The Prime time Debate - just think about how The People in Ireland think and talk after a century of living in The Republic

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OK - Let us take a look at that much maligned man whose most trusted friend is a tree ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Adams

... and his tryst tonight is with a woman whose parents took one look at her and ran away ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Burton

... The Game in The Republic is - Facts & Arguments V Bullshit & Lies ... you can play too ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enIyVP1jp0k - Claire Byrne Live - Gerry Adams and Joan Burton debate

I scored Gerry Adams - 05 & 02 V 16 & 02 - total = 25 - % = 20 & 08 V 64 & 08

I scored Joan Burton - 16 & 05 V 10 & 02 - total = 33 - % = 49 & 15 V 30 & 06

Gerry Adams was weaker on Facts & Arguments - stronger on Bullshit - and slightly Lies

Joan Burton was stronger on Facts & Arguments - weaker on Bullshit - and slightly Lies

Gerry Adams +12 V -38 ... Joan Burton +36 V -20

Joan Burton is more The Republican than Gerry Adams - is that because he is a politician in The UK ?

No particular insult is meant to Gerry Adams by this : The Political System in The Untied Kingdom does shape our political behaviour - and thus it has shaped his political ideology and personality : I respect but do not trust him.

The price of saving others is to lose yourself : lead your own self and you will not mis-lead others.

[ My devising that kind of aphorism is how I acquired the nickname " Dai Saw" on my twenty first birthday ]


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvA10ILEsrI - Will Durant - The Philosophy of Voltaire - and so to bed ...

[ Will Durant and Melvin Bragg are excellent remedies for The Sleepless Knight ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7XQVoCia1I - The Social Contract [ i.e. Rousseau, Hobbes, Locke etc ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZt1Tn_6hsg - Jean-Jacques Rousseau - Night Waves BBC Radio 3

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire

François-Marie Arouet (French: [fʁɑ̃swa maʁi aʁwɛ]; 21 November 1694 – 30 May 1778), known by his nom de plume Voltaire (/voʊlˈtɛər/; French: [vɔltɛːʁ]), was a French Enlightenment writer, historian and philosopher famous for his wit, his criticism of Christianity, especially the Catholic Church, and his advocacy of freedom of religion, freedom of speech and separation of church and state. ... Voltaire was a versatile and prolific writer, producing works in almost every literary form, including plays, poems, novels, essays and historical and scientific works. He wrote more than 20,000 letters and more than 2,000 books and pamphlets. He was an outspoken advocate of civil liberties, despite the risk this placed him in under the strict censorship laws of the time. As a satirical polemicist, he frequently made use of his works to criticize intolerance, religious dogma and the French institutions of his day. ...

... In 1713, his father obtained a job for him as a secretary to the new French ambassador in the Netherlands, the marquis de Châteauneuf [fr], the brother of Voltaire's godfather ... From early on, Voltaire had trouble with the authorities for critiques of the government. As a result, he was twice sentenced to prison and once to temporary exile to England ... He mainly argued for religious tolerance and freedom of thought. He campaigned to eradicate priestly and aristo-monarchical authority, and supported a constitutional monarchy that protects people's rights ... The author adopted the name Voltaire in 1718, following his incarceration at the Bastille. Its origin is unclear. It is an anagram of AROVET LI, the Latinized spelling of his surname, Arouet, and the initial letters of le jeune ("the young"). According to a family tradition among the descendants of his sister, he was known as le petit volontaire ( " determined little thing ") as a child, and he resurrected a variant of the name in his adult life ... In a letter to Jean-Baptiste Rousseau in March 1719, Voltaire concludes by asking that, if Rousseau wishes to send him a return letter, he do so by addressing it to Monsieur de Voltaire ... Voltaire is known also to have used at least 178 separate pen names during his lifetime ...

... In early 1726, a young French nobleman, the chevalier de Rohan-Chabot, taunted Voltaire about his change of name, and Voltaire retorted that his name would be honored while de Rohan would dishonor his. Infuriated, de Rohan arranged for Voltaire to be beaten up by thugs a few days later. Seeking compensation, redress, or revenge, Voltaire challenged de Rohan to a duel, but the aristocratic de Rohan family arranged for Voltaire to be arrested and imprisoned in the Bastille on 17 April 1726 without a trial or an opportunity to defend himself. Fearing an indefinite prison sentence, Voltaire suggested that he be exiled to England as an alternative punishment, which the French authorities accepted. On 2 May, he was escorted from the Bastille to Calais, where he was to embark for Britain ... Voltaire's exile in Great Britain greatly influenced his thinking. He was intrigued by Britain's constitutional monarchy in contrast to French absolutism, and by the country's greater support of the freedoms of speech and religion ... After two and a half years in exile, Voltaire returned to France, and after a few months living in Dieppe, the authorities permitted him to return to Paris. At a dinner, French mathematician Charles Marie de La Condamine proposed buying up the lottery that was organized by the French government to pay off its debts, and Voltaire joined the consortium, earning perhaps a million livres ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letters_on_the_English

Letters on the English ( or Letters Concerning the English Nation; French: Lettres philosophiques ) is a series of essays written by Voltaire based on his experiences living in England between 1726 and 1729 (though from 1707 the country was part of the Kingdom of Great Britain). It was published first in English in 1733 and then in French the following year, where it was seen as an attack on the French system of government and was rapidly suppressed. Most modern English-language versions are based on a translation of the French text rather than Voltaire's English one ... In the Letters 1-4, Voltaire describes the Quakers, their customs, their beliefs, and their history ... Finally, in the Letter 7, he talks about the "Socinians," whose belief system is somewhat related to Voltaire's own deist viewpoint. Voltaire argues that while this sect includes some of the day's most important thinkers ( including Newton and Locke ), this is not enough to persuade the common man that it is logical. According to Voltaire, men prefer to follow the teachings of "wretched authors" such as Martin Luther, John Calvin, or Huldrych Zwingli ...

... Letter 8 talks about the British parliament, which he compares to both Rome and France. In terms of Rome, Voltaire criticizes the fact that Britain has entered wars on account of religion (whereas Rome did not), but he praises Britain for serving liberty rather than tyranny (as in Rome). In terms of France, Voltaire responds to French criticism concerning the regicide of Charles I by highlighting the British judicial process as opposed to the outright murders of Holy Roman Emperor Henry VII or Henry III of France, or the multiple attempts on the life of Henry IV of France. ... In Letter 9, Voltaire gives a brief history of the Magna Carta, talks about the equal dispensing of justice, and the levying of taxes. ... In Letter 10, Voltaire praises the English trade system, its benefits, and what it brings to the English ( from 1707, British ) nation. According to Voltaire, trade greatly contributed to the liberty of the English people, and this liberty in turn contributed to the expansion of commerce. It is trade as well that gave England its naval riches and power. ... For Voltaire, nobles are less important than the businessman who "contributes to the felicity of the world." ...

... Letter 12 speaks of Francis Bacon, author of Novum Organum and father of experimental philosophy ... Letter 13 is about John Locke and his theories on the immortality of the soul ... Letter 14 compares British philosopher Isaac Newton to French philosopher René Descartes ... Letter 15 focuses on Newton's law of universal gravitation ... Letter 16 talks about Newton's work with optics ... Letter 17 discusses Newton's work with geometry and his theories on the chronology of history ... In Letter 18, Voltaire talks about British tragedy, specifically in the hands of William Shakespeare ... In Letter 19, Voltaire addresses British comedy, citing William Wycherley, John Vanbrugh, and William Congreve ... Letter 20 speaks briefly of the belles lettres of the nobility, including the Earl of Rochester and Edmund Waller ... Letter 22 references the poetry of Jonathan Swift and Alexander Pope ... In Letter 23, Voltaire argues that the British honour their Men of Letters far better than the French in terms of money and veneration ... [ PLEASE GIVE ME SOME ! ] ...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract

In both moral and political philosophy, the social contract is a theory or model that originated during the Age of Enlightenment and usually concerns the legitimacy of the authority of the state over the individual. Social contract arguments typically posit that individuals have consented, either explicitly or tacitly, to surrender some of their freedoms and submit to the authority of the ruler ( or to the decision of a majority ) in exchange for protection of their remaining rights. ... Therefore, the relation between natural and legal rights is often a topic of social contract theory. The term takes its name from The Social Contract ( French: Du contrat social ou Principes du droit politique,) a 1762 book by Jean-Jacques Rousseau that discussed this concept ... Prominent of 17th- and 18th-century theorists of social contract and natural rights include Hugo Grotius (1625), Thomas Hobbes (1651), Samuel von Pufendorf (1673), John Locke (1689), Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1762), and Immanuel Kant (1797). Each solved the problem of political authority differently. Grotius posited that individual humans had natural rights. Thomas Hobbes famously said that in a "state of nature", human life would be "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short". ...

... John Locke and Jean-Jacques Rousseau argued that we gain civil rights in return for accepting the obligation to respect and defend the rights of others, giving up some freedoms to do so ... The central assertion that social contract approaches is that law and political order are not natural, but human creations. The social contract and the political order it creates are simply the means towards an end—the benefit of the individuals involved - and legitimate only to the extent that they fulfill their part of the agreement ... Hobbes argued that government is not a party to the original contract and citizens are not obligated to submit to the government when it is too weak to act effectively to suppress factionalism and civil unrest. According to other social contract theorists, when the government fails to secure their natural rights ( Locke ) or satisfy the best interests of society ( called the "general will" in Rousseau ), citizens can withdraw their obligation to obey, or change the leadership through elections or other means including, when necessary, violence # ... Locke believed that natural rights were inalienable, and therefore the rule of God superseded government authority, while Rousseau believed that democracy ( self-rule ) was the best way to ensure welfare while maintaining individual freedom under the rule of law. The Lockean concept of the social contract was invoked in the United States Declaration of Independence.


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# WHICH IS THE FAMOUS ARGUMENT WHICH SO MANY SEIZE UPON TO EITHER DAMN OR PRAISE REPUBLICANISM WITH - WHILST EITHER KNOWING NOTHING OF - OR DELIBERATELY IGNORING - THE BASIC ARGUMENT OF REPUBLICANISM WHICH IS - " THE RULE OF LAW V SOVEREIGNTY " -

" SOVEREIGNTY " IS THE CRIME OF AN ARBITRARY AUTHORITY USING POLITICAL COERCION HENCE -

MONOCRATIC PSEUDO-REPUBLICANISM - " OBEY OUR LAWS OR WE WILL KILL YOU "

ARISTOCRATIC PSEUDO-REPUBLICANISM - " OBEY OUR LAWS OR WE WILL STARVE YOU "

DEMOCRATIC PSEUDO-REPUBLICANISM - " OBEY OUR LAWS OR WE WILL SHUN YOU "

HIEROCRATIC PSEUDO-REPUBLICANISM - " OBEY OUR LAWS OR WE WILL CURSE YOU "

" THE RULE OF LAW " IS REAL REPUBLICANISM - " OBEY THE LAW BECAUSE IT IS OUR BEST ADVICE "

REVOLUTION DEVELOPS OUR UNDERSTANDING OF " THE NOMOS " IN ORDER TO GIVE BETTER ADVICE.

REPUBLICANISM IS THE POLITICS OF TRUTH, LOVE, LIBERTY, PEACE AND - LIFE !

HIEROCRACY IS THE POLITICS OF LIES - BUT ALSO LOVE, LIBERTY, PEACE AND LIFE

DEMOCRACY IS THE POLITICS OF LIES AND HATRED - BUT ALSO LIBERTY, PEACE AND LIFE

ARISTOCRACY IS THE POLITICS OF LIES, HATRED AND SLAVERY - BUT ALSO PEACE AND LIFE

MONOCRACY IS THE POLITICS OF LIES, HATRED, SLAVERY AND WAR - BUT ALSO LIFE

SOVEREIGNTY IS THE POLITICS OF LIES, HATRED, SLAVERY, WAR - AND DEATH !

COUNTER-REVOLUTION DESTROYS OUR UNDERSTANDING OF " THE NOMOS " - UNLEASHING CHAOS -

" SOVEREIGNTY " HAS NO BASIS IN REALITY - HENCE IT CAN BE USED TO JUSTIFY " THE WILL OF GOD " - " VOX POPULI VOX DEI " - " FREE MARKET CAPITALISM " - " ROYALTY " - " CROWN IN PARLIAMENT " - ETC - BECAUSE " SOVEREIGNTY " IS AN IDEA WHICH HAS BEEN USED AND ABUSED WITHIN IDEOLOGIES FOR CENTURIES BECAUSE IT HAS NO BASIS IN REALITY - IT WAS ORIGINALLY AN ATTRIBUTE OF GOD AS THE CREATOR AND RULER OF THE COSMOS - " THE NOMOS " IS " THE LAW OF THE COSMOS " WHICH GOVERNS EVERYTHING - FROM " THE BIG BANG " TO " THE LAST MUTTER " - AND THE HUMAN QUEST TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD WE LIVE IN IS THE QUEST FOR " THE RULE OF LAW " - " THE NOMOS " IS " THE UNBREAKABLE LAW " WHICH GOD IN HIS PERFECTION - EVEN IF HE HAS THE POWER TO - PERFECTLY ABIDES BY ... YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO BE GOVERNED BY A GOD WHO WAS AN OMNI-POTENT OMNI-SCIENT OMNI-CRIMINAL - SO WHY DO YOU ACCEPT THE " SOVEREIGNTY " OF ANYTHING BESIDES JUSTICE I.E. " THE RULE OF LAW " ?

MEN CREATED " GODS " IN THEIR OWN IMAGE IN ORDER TO ORGANISE THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF AND THUS EXTEND THEIR CONTROL OVER THE WORLD - AND WOMEN PROMPTLY OBJECTED TO THIS ON THE BASIS THAT THIS HAD NO BASIS IN REALITY - " MEN RULING THE COSMOS ? IT WOULD END UP IN CHAOS - NOT NOMOS ! " - AND NEITHER DID THEY WISH TO BE OBJECTIFIED AND TREATED AS IF THEY WERE ON ZERO HOUR CONTRACTS WITHOUT BENEFITS WHEN THEY WERE PROGRESSIVELY MINDED FEMINIST NEANDERTHALS WHO WERE FIRMLY GROUNDED IN THE REALITY OF THE WORLD AND WANTED THOSE LAZY BUMS TO STOP INVENTING RELIGION AND POLITICS - AND TO STOP TALKING ABOUT BULLS AND BEARS - AND GO DOWN TO THE MARKET INSTEAD OF SITTING AROUND SHARPENING THEIR SPEARS ALL DAY LONG WHILST BOASTING ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE MAMMOTHS WHICH THEY NEARLY CAUGHT ONCE ... " SOVEREIGNTY " ? ... LET ME GIVE YOU OUR BEST ADVICE : BEWARE OF WORDS ... I AM A POET : I BEND, BREAK, MEND AND MAKE WORDS WHICH DESCRIBE REALITIES ... BUT WORDS ARE IDEALITIES : DID YOU NOT BELIEVE MY NEANDERTHAL STORY ? ... " SOVEREIGNTY " IS AN IDEA LIKE " MONEY " - BOTH ARE ILLUSORY - BOTH ARE MANUFACTURED : LIES, HATRED, SLAVERY, WAR - AND DEATH ! ... " Y " ... TRUTH, LOVE, LIBERTY, PEACE - AND LIFE !

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Jacques_Rousseau

Jean-Jacques Rousseau (UK: /ˈruːsoʊ/, US: /ruːˈsoʊ/; French: [ʒɑ̃ʒak ʁuso]; 28 June 1712 – 2 July 1778) was a Genevan philosopher, writer and composer. Born in Geneva, his political philosophy influenced the progress of the Enlightenment throughout Europe, as well as aspects of the French Revolution and the development of modern political and educational thought ... He befriended fellow philosophy writer Denis Diderot in 1742, and would later write about Diderot's romantic troubles in his autobiography, Confessions ... His Discourse on Inequality and The Social Contract are cornerstones in modern political and social thought ... His Emile, or On Education (1762) is an educational treatise on the place of the individual in society ... During the period of the French Revolution, Rousseau was the most popular of the philosophers among members of the Jacobin Club. ... 16 years after his death ... On 11 October 1794, his remains were moved to the Panthéon, where they were placed near the remains of Voltaire

... Rousseau was born in Geneva, which was at the time a city-state and a Protestant associate of the Swiss Confederacy. Since 1536, Geneva had been a Huguenot republic and the seat of Calvinism ... Geneva, in theory, was governed "democratically" by its male voting "citizens". The citizens were a minority of the population when compared to the immigrants, referred to as "inhabitants", whose descendants were called "natives" and continued to lack suffrage. In fact, rather than being run by vote of the "citizens", the city was ruled by a small number of wealthy families that made up the "Council of Two Hundred"; these delegated their power to a twenty-five member executive group from among them called the "Little Council" ... There was much political debate within Geneva, extending down to the tradespeople. Much discussion was over the idea of the sovereignty of the people, of which the ruling class oligarchy was making a mockery. In 1707, a democratic reformer named Pierre Fatio protested this situation, saying "a sovereign that never performs an act of sovereignty is an imaginary being". He was shot by order of the Little Council. Jean-Jacques Rousseau's father, Isaac, was not in the city at this time, but Jean-Jacques's grandfather supported Fatio and was penalized for it ...

... In 1762, Rousseau published Du Contrat Social, Principes du droit politique (in English, literally Of the Social Contract, Principles of Political Right) in April. Even his friend Antoine-Jacques Roustan felt impelled to write a polite rebuttal of the chapter on Civil Religion in the Social Contract, which implied that the concept of a Christian republic was paradoxical since Christianity taught submission rather than participation in public affairs. Rousseau helped Roustan find a publisher for the rebuttal ... Moreover, Rousseau advocated the opinion that, insofar as they lead people to virtue, all religions are equally worthy, and that people should therefore conform to the religion in which they have been brought up. This religious indifferentism caused Rousseau and his books to be banned from France and Geneva ...Subsequently, when the Swiss authorities also proved unsympathetic to him—condemning both Emile, and also The Social Contract - Voltaire issued an invitation to Rousseau to come and reside with him ... Rousseau later expressed regret that he had not replied to Voltaire's invitation ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Social_Contract

The Social Contract, originally published as On the Social Contract; or, Principles of Political Rights (French: Du contrat social; ou Principes du droit politique) by Jean-Jacques Rousseau, is a 1762 book in which Rousseau theorized about the best way to establish a political community in the face of the problems of commercial society, which he had already identified in his Discourse on Inequality (1754). ... The Social Contract helped inspire political reforms or revolutions in Europe, especially in France. The Social Contract argued against the idea that monarchs were divinely empowered to legislate. Rousseau asserts that only the people, who are sovereign, have that all-powerful right ... He concludes book one, chapter three with, "Let us then admit that force does not create right, and that we are obliged to obey only legitimate powers", which is to say, the ability to coerce is not a legitimate power, and there is no rightful duty to submit to it. A state has no right to enslave a conquered people ... In this desired social contract, everyone will be free because they all forfeit the same number of rights and impose the same duties on all. Rousseau argues that it is absurd for a man to surrender his freedom for slavery; thus, the participants must have a right to choose the laws under which they live ...

... Rousseau posits that the political aspects of a society should be divided into two parts. First, there must be a sovereign consisting of the whole population, women included, that represents the general will and is the legislative power within the state. The second division is that of the government, being distinct from the sovereign. This division is necessary because the sovereign cannot deal with particular matters like applications of the law. Doing so would undermine its generality, and therefore damage its legitimacy. Thus, government must remain a separate institution from the sovereign body. When the government exceeds the boundaries set in place by the people, it is the mission of the people to abolish such government, and begin anew ... When Rousseau uses the word democracy, he refers to a direct democracy rather than a representative democracy. In light of the relation between population size and governmental structure, Rousseau argues that, like his native Geneva, small city-states are the form of nation in which freedom can best flourish. For states of this size, an elected aristocracy is preferable, and in very large states a benevolent monarch; but even monarchical rule, to be legitimate, must be subordinate to the sovereign rule of law ...

... The French philosopher Voltaire used his publications to criticise and mock Rousseau, but also to defend free expression. In his Idées républicaines (1765), he reacted to the news that The Social Contract had been burned in Geneva, saying "The operation of burning it was perhaps as odious as that of writing it. [...] If the book was dangerous, it should have been refuted. To burn a book of argument is to say: 'We do not have enough wit to reply to it.'" [ Voltaire ] comments that England, despite being a monarchy, has a more enlightened population than other countries because the right to publish is protected by law ... Voltaire writes that a perfect government is impossible, but that a republic is the closest to achieving natural equality ... There are many textual similarities between Idées républicaines and Voltaire's private memorandum on the struggle in Geneva, Propositions à examiner pour apaiser les division de Genève ...


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing about typing so much using only The One Finger ... ahem ... is that I want to re-use whatever I can wherever I can ... a number of The People in Wales are curious about that story about Leanne Wood making " an illegal oath " - she did not - or " appearing on a public platform with ' abhorrent ' Balchder Cymru " - she did not ... and Balchder Cymru's opinions in my opinion are not ' abhorrent ' in terms of The Opinions in The Western Mail when it is drumming up business for The War in The World ... and whilst I do not share in the political opinions of " The Deep Greens " or whatever Balchder's politics are - they do not have a coherent political ideology as far as I can see but they certainly have been doing some politics and therefore Balchder Cymru belong to Welsh Political Society - WPS ! - and are as entitled to their balls up as anybody else is - provided they engage with others in The Dialectic in Wales ... Balchder however refuse to engage with The Dailectric in Butetown ... so - hey ho ! ... I do not generally look at Wikipedia pages which concern groups or persons that I already have some knowledge of personally - Wikipedia however is full of uninformed, prejudiced and defamatory statements which irk me when I come across them - and whilst I certainly would not opinionate about Balchder Cymru or any other group or person on The Front Page when I think that I can contribute facts and arguments I do so on The Talk pages and leave the infighting over The Front Page to others ... I just posted this so I share it ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Balchder_Cymru

This page contains a misleading description i.e. " the group had shared a public platform with the leader of Plaid Cymru, Leanne Wood " - Repwblic's account of events

" In September 2012, Balchder Cymru came to public attention after it was reported by the Western Mail newspaper that the group had shared a public platform with the leader of Plaid Cymru, Leanne Wood, the previous year. It was reported that Wood had sworn an oath to the Welsh republican tricolour, during an event for Cardiff Bay Republican Day, and that Balchder Cymru were also in attendance, and had contributed some nationalist views which a Plaid spokesperson described as "abhorrent". In response, Balchder Cymru chair Adam 'Balchder' Phillips distanced his group from association with Plaid Cymru and regretted the impression given to Western Mail readers that they were somehow closely allied."

THE WESTERN MAIL ARTICLE WHICH DEFAMED LEANNE WOOD AND REPWBLIC - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/plaid-cymru-leader-leanne-wood-2024296

" the group had shared a public platform with the leader of Plaid Cymru, Leanne Wood " - no, they did not - Leanne Wood shared a public platform with the Internationalist Pacifist Republican group " ( Y ) Repwblic " in a Situationist Spectacle called " Yr Ardystiad " which was a protest against the continued existence on The Statute Book of The United Kingdom of The Treason Felony Act 1848 which tends to lend the appearance that Republicanism is illegal in The United Kingdom - which it is not : some twenty percent of the population continue to describe themselves as " Republican " - whatever they mean by that. The chairman of the meeting - as usual - invited anybody who wished to speak from the platform who had not been scheduled as a contributor to speak if they wished and not one but two spokesmen from Balchder Cymru took the platform and made speeches advocating a Nationalist Militarist Republican point of view.

MOBILE PHONE VIDEO ON YOUTUBE OF LEANNE WOOD MAKING " YR ARDYSTIAD " - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ffBpnIWHRA - THE TYPICAL " REPWBLICAN " SHAMBLES

" Yr Ardystiad " is not an oath - Leanne Wood and Bethan Jenkins ( who were both plain Assembly Members at the time ) are bound by The Oath of Allegiance in The Welsh Assembly - and the wording of it describes " The Republic in Wales " not The Republic of Wales which words could be construed as Treason Felony. The Western Mail article was refuted in writing - line by line - within hours of it being published but they have still neither corrected nor withdrawn it - they at first ignored then " reported " this event more than a year later - specifically after Leanne Wood became the leader of Plaid Cymru to defame her. Balchder Cymru then tried to capitalise on them being mentioned in a newspaper without setting the record straight about events and thus defamed Repwblic.

REPWBLIC'S ACCOUNT OF " YR ARDYSTIAD " AND CONSEQUENCES - http://repwblic.informe.com/yr-ardystiad-campaign-against-the-treason-felony-act-1848-dt438.html

At the Cilmeri rally in December 2012 Balchder Cymru turned up with a big poster trying to further capitalise on the situation and Adam Philips pleaded to the crowd that they were the defamed party despite the fact that their " abhorrent " opinions had been reported verbatim by The Western Mail and printed below the photograph of David B Lawrence offering " Yr Ardystiad " to Leanne Wood - David B Lawrence became angry and wanted to set the record straight and Adam Philips conscientiously gave way in the middle of his speech to allow David B Lawrence to give a short speech criticising Balchder Cymru's behaviour and briefly explaining what had actually happened. The consequences of those speeches were bitter arguments and the estrangement of Balchder and Repwblic.

VIDEODOC OF CILMERI RALLY IN 2012 - ADAM PHILIPS GAVE WAY TO DAVID B LAWRENCE AT 35.30 - " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URLvYjdIGGg - CILMERI 2012 "

This was written by David B Lawrence = Dai Saw = dai repwblic - who is fed up with chasing after the consequences of Cardiff Bay Republican Day in 2011.

My opinion of Balchder Cymru ? " Patriots with opinions " which " The Republicans in Wales " do not share - but we still work with " Welsh Republicans."

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If it flies like a dog_And swims like a dog_Lays eggs like a dog_Yet makes love like a dog_It is not a duck - but a dog. =

If it flies like a dog_
And swims like a dog_
Lays eggs like a dog_
And makes love like a dog_
It is not a duck - but a dog !

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts The Moral Right - not to sue for copyright !

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I MENTIONED ABOVE THAT THE ALLIANCE PARTY ARE " WHITE " BUT AVOID USING THE WORD " REPUBLICAN " BECAUSE THAT IS SUCH A LOADED TERM IN NORTHERN IRELAND BECAUSE " SINN FEIN " WAS HIJACKED BY THE I.R.A. IN 1956 - PART OF A CAMPAIGN IN WHICH O.I.R.A.'s STRATEGY ALSO INVOLVED REACHING OUT TO AND MILITARISING THE REGROUPING WELSH REPUBLICAN MOVEMENT WHICH EMERGED FROM WORLD WAR TWO TRYING TO BODGE TOGETHER THE POLITICAL DISSIDENTS WHO OPPOSED THE WAR AGAINST THE NAZIS - E.G. " THE REDS " - COMMUNISTS WHO AS SUPPORTERS OF THE U.S.S.R. WERE REQUIRED TO OR DECEIVED INTO SUPPORTING STALIN'S PACT WITH HITLER - " THE WHITES " - ABSOLUTIST PACIFISTS WHO OPPOSED ALL WARS AND BLAMED THE UNITED KINGDOM FOR THE VERSAILLES TREATY WHICH BROUGHT MUSSOLINI AND HITLER TO POWER - " THE GREENS " - FASCISTS WHOSE ALLEGIANCES WERE TO WELSH NATIONALISM AND THEREFORE VIEWED THE NAZIS AS ALLIES WHO WOULD CONQUER THE UNITED KINGDOM AND GIVE THEM INDEPENDENCE AS A CLIENT STATE OF THE THIRD REICH ... YEAH ... I SUSPECT THAT THIS WAS THE UNHOLY ALLIANCE WITHIN THE W.R.M. AND WHY IT FELL APART ... SO SHOULD WE TRY TO RE-CREATE " THE ALLIANCE PARTY IN WALES " ?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Party_of_Northern_Ireland

The Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (APNI) is a liberal and centrist political party in Northern Ireland. It is Northern Ireland's fifth-largest party overall, with eight seats in the Northern Ireland Assembly. ... Founded in 1970 from the New Ulster Movement, the Alliance Party originally represented moderate and non-sectarian unionism. However, over time, particularly in the 1990s, it moved towards neutrality on the Union, and has come to represent wider liberal and non-sectarian concerns. It opposes the consociational power-sharing mandated by the Good Friday Agreement as deepening the sectarian divide, and, in the Northern Ireland Assembly, it is designated as neither unionist nor Irish nationalist, but 'Other'.

[ I.E. " OTHER " IS " WHITE " - THE ALLIANCE'S STANCE IS IN FACT " CIV " - CLASSIC CENTRIST REPUBLICAN ]

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UGH ... 18.15 pm ... CAN I GET STARTED ON THIS AGAIN ? ... A SORT OF POLITICAL DAY ... THE QUAKER MEETING ENDED WITH THE MOTHER OF A YOUNG ACTIVIST TEARFULLY READING OUT HER DAUGHTER'S LIST OF ACHIEVEMENTS IN HER SHORT LIFE BEFORE IT WAS CUT SHORT ... I WENT OVER TO PENARTH TO MEET DAF / MORITZ, ASAMUX AND OTHERS FOR A LEISURELY LUNCH AND TOOK A NOTEBOOK WITH ME IN WHICH I HAD STARTED TO TRY TO RE-WRITE THOSE MICROPARTY ARTICLES AND MEMORANDA LEST I CAN MANAGE TO KNOCK THAT ONE UP FOR CILMERI IN TIME - BUT THEN I SHOULD RUN THAT ONE PAST ONE OF OUR FRIENDLY LAWYERS BEFOREHAND LEST I SCREW IT UP AND MISLEAD SOME POOR INNOCENTS - AND THEY WERE LATE ... AN HOUR LATE ... SO I SAT AT A TABLE FOR SIX TRYING TO OCCUPY IT ALL - WITHOUT ACTUALLY LOOKING LIKE AN ISRAELI - BY SPREADING THE WORK OUT ACROSS IT - ALONG WITH MY HAT, COAT AND SCARF ... WHEN ALONG CAME AN ELDERLY MAN WHO USED TO BE A COUNCILLOR - TWO COUNCILLORS AT ONCE ACTUALLY - AND WE TALKED A BIT ABOUT HOW THE POLITICAL SYSTEM HAS GONE TO PIECES, HOW IT NEVER WORKED PROPERLY IN THE FIRST PLACE ETC AND I EXPLAINED THE MICROPARTY STRATEGY AND HE WISHED ME GOOD LUCK BUT ...

... I GAVE UP WHEN THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY HAD STOPPED TO DO SOME SHOPPING IN MORRISONS AND SO I ORDERED A GUINESS AND FISH, PEAS AND CHIPS AND ... THEN LIL'MIS SUDDENLY APPEARED IN FRONT OF ME AS I WAS ABOUT TO START EATING AND SHE HAS SUCH BIG BROWN EYES AND IS ALL INNOCENCE AND WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE FISH TASTED LIKE ... SO I CUT THE END OFF IT FOR HER AND SHE DECIDED THAT HER DAD HAD TO ORDER THEM BOTH FISH AND CHIPS TOO - AND SHE SHOWED ME HER NEW DOLL OR RATHER SOFT TOY WHICH LOOKED SUSPICIOUSLY LIKE MICKEY MOUSE BUT SHE ANNOUNCED THAT HE DID NOT HAVE A NAME YET BUT SHE WANTED US TO PICK A NAME FOR HIM - OR RATHER SHE WOULD HAVE US VOTE FOR A NAME FOR HIM FROM THE LIST WHICH SHE HAD PREPARED EARLIER : MICI, MEILO OR MEIC - I JUST DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THIS YOUNG DEMOCRAT ... I BLAME THEIR PARENTS TO BE HONEST : I TRIED TO REASON WITH HER E.G. THERE ARE MANY NICE NAMES BEGINNING WITH A-Z ... NO - THE NAME HAD TO BEGIN WITH AN " M " ...

... WELL OF COURSE WE COULD AT LEAST CONSIDER ALL OF THE OTHER NAMES WHICH BEGIN WITH AN " M " ... NO - THE CANDIDATES ARE MICI, MEILO OR MEIC : WHICH ONE ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE FOR ? ... WELL OF COURSE AS A REPUBLICAN I DISAPPROVE OF VOTING AS THE BASIS FOR MAKING DECISIONS FOR EXACTLY THIS SORT OF REASON ... OK - I VOTED FOR " MEILO " - AND THUS I HAVE BETRAYED " Y REPWBLIC " AND ALL THAT IT STANDS FOR ... BUT SHE HAS SUCH BIG BROWN EYES ... AND SHE IS ONLY EIGHT YEARS OLD - ? ... OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO START INDOCTRINATING THEM IN THE CRADLE AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY LEARN TO THINK STRAIGHT LONG BEFORE THEY ARE WRENCHED FROM THEIR WEEPING MOTHERS' ARMS AND TAKEN OFF TO SCHOOL AND TURNED INTO THE PROPERTY OF THE STATE AND ... >SIGH< ... OH - LET ME JUST CHILL OUT FOR A WHILE WITH BOB MARLEY AND THE REPUBLIC IN THE RASTAFARAI ... BEFORE WE BEGIN YET AGAIN ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F69PBQ4ZyNw - Bob Marley - Get up, stand up : don't give up the fight !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggm_tEz05X0 - Bob Marley - I don't want to wait in vain for your love !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek9zsyejN0 - Bob Marley - Whom the cap fits - let them wear it !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDnNqsy7rYE - Bob Marley - Lively Up Yourself !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k34boxNrqL8 - Bob Marley - Chase those Crazy Baldheads out of town !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOw9LMGaO1Y - Bob Marley - Revolution - Live in Wales !

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23.30 PM AND FINALLY GETTING MY ACT TOGETHER ... " DAI SAW " IS NOW LOOKING FOR A WELSH PROVERB ...

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... oh - good gracious - http://www.mylifeinwales.com/24-brilliant-welsh-words-that-you-can-use-now ... LISA !!!

I really ought to write to The Judy Comical about that one ... but they did not publish my last letter ...

From: David B Lawrence
To:
Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2018, 15:27:55 GMT+1
Subject: Punch and Judy

Dear Editor,

despite the heat of these allegations about antisemitism in the Labour Party beating down all summer long Jeremy Corbyn has inevitably managed to stay as cool as ever - but another prominent public figure every summer has gone unchallenged again this year and he will presently continue to sow the seeds of antisemitism into infant minds for years to come unless he and his enthusiastic audiences are challenged to reconsider their cultural norms.

The origin of those cultural norms lie in the 16c Commedia del Arte in the characters of Pulcinella and Joan who have become the amusing marionettes Pinchas and Ruti in Jewish culture but who in their development into violent glove puppets in 19c Britain acquired those familiar tropes attributed to Jews by Victorian antisemites : Punch the hook nosed hunchback who is a cunning criminal and Judy his lazy wife who is an irresponsible mother.

Surely The Jewish Chronicle should be addressing this more serious case of antisemitism ?

David B Lawrence

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I never wrote to you before and performed a word count on your letters page to check -

[ 72 + 74 + 13 = 159 ] [ + " Dear Editor " + " David B Lawrence " ]

I used to read your letters page as the most interesting section of The Jewish Chronicle.

I trust that you do not publish addresses - I do not want to enter in correspondences.

David B Lawrence

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... AND I HAVE STUCK THAT JOKE IN FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE WELSH REPUBLICAN WITH WHOM I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING " THE UNION JACK'D COFFIN " WITH AS I PLAN " THE LAST POST " - RALI CILMERI IS JEALOUSLY GUARDED BY THE WELSH REPUBLICANS ( = RIGHT WING NATIONALISTS ) AND THEREFORE A SORT OF DELICATE NEGOTIATION IS TAKING PLACE ABOUT HOW THEY MIGHT FEEL ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS IN WALES ( = LEFT WING INTERNATIONALISTS ) CONTRIBUTING RATHER THAN JUST ATTENDING AS OBSERVERS : WE ARE NOT DISPLAYING OUR FLAGS THERE AT THE MOMENT LEST THE LEFT WING BECOMES CONFUSED WITH THE RIGHT WING AFTER THE ROW IN 2012 - BUT WE BOTH AGREE THAT THE EAGLE NEEDS TO FLY WITH BOTH WINGS IN ORDER NOT TO JUST FLAP AROUND AIMLESSLY IN CIRCLES ... THEY ARE HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY IN FIGURING ME OUT BECAUSE I SUBSUME THEIR POLITICAL ARGUMENTS IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THEM BETTER - AND IN ORDER TO PICK HOLES IN MY OWN ARGUMENTS - BECAUSE I THINK IN TERMS OF META-IDEOLOGY - HENCE MY SCORN FOR THESE ALLEGATIONS OF " ANTI-SEMITISM " AGAINST THE LABOUR PARTY ...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Antisemitism-Debating-Judeophobia-Century-Britain/dp/1861976518/

... AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND IT SO FAR THIS " NEW ANTI-SEMITISM " - OR " JUDEOPHOBIA " - HAS BEEN DELIBERATELY CONSTRUCTED AS AN IDEOLOGY - IT MAY NOT HAVE ACTUALLY BEGUN WITH THIS BOOK BUT IT HAS BEEN SHOCKING TO WATCH IT DEVELOP : I BELIEVE THAT THE STATE IN ISRAEL HAS BEEN ENCOURAGING THESE ACADEMICS TO DO THIS AND THAT IT IS THEIR FOREIGN POLICY STRATEGY TO NOT ONLY REDEFINE ANTI-SEMITISM BUT ALSO TO PROMOTE ANTI-ISLAMICISM IN BOTH THE UK AND THE USA : THIS IS UTTERLY RECKLESS AND CYNICAL IN THE EXTREME TO PROMOTE RELIGIOUS ANTAGONISM AND CIVIL DISORDER IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY - I WILL NOT EXPLAIN THE MATTER HERE BUT IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF COUNTER-REVOLUTION THINK OF IT THIS WAY : THAT IS WHEN ECONOMICS CONTROLS POLITICS CONTROLS RELIGION CONTROLS SPIRITUALITY I.E. ( TO SUBSUME SOCIALISM - WHICH IN THE IDEO-RATIONAL ANALYSIS IS A " SUPER-VERSION " ) THE VICIOUS CYCLE IS THAT WHEN THE CAPITALISTS EXPROPRIATE THE WEALTH OF THE WORKING CLASS THEY RE-INVEST A PROPORTION OF THEIR PROFITS INTO THE POCKETS OF THE RULING CLASS IN ORDER TO OBTAIN LAWS WHICH LEGITIMATE THEIR BEHAVIOUR WHICH IS SANCTIONED BY PROMOTING AN IDEOLOGY WHICH EXPLAINS WHY THIS IS NOT UNETHICAL - AND SO POLITICS CONTROLS RELIGION AND ETHICS DETERMINE MORALITIES : THE DEMOCRATS IN WESTMINSTER ARE NOT JUST BOMBARDED WITH LETTERS FROM LOBBYISTS FOR THE STATE IN ISRAEL - GO TRY LOBBYING FOR THE PEOPLE IN ISRAEL IN WESTMINSTER : TRY TELLING THEM ABOUT HOW THE STATE IN ISRAEL ABUSES THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD !

THE DEMOCRATS IN ISRAEL LEGITIMATE THE EXPLOITATION OF BOTH THE PALESTINIANS AND THE ISRAELIS ...

IN THE IDEO-RATIONAL ANALYSIS FASCISM IS A " SUB-VERSION " WHICH DISREGARDS RELIGION AND POLITICS AND THUS MOVES DIRECTLY FROM EMOTION TO ACTION WITHOUT COGNITION : IN OTHER WORDS FASCIST POLITICS PROMOTES IRRATIONAL EMOTIONAL RESPONSES SUCH AS BLIND LOVE FOR THE LEADERSHIP AND BLIND HATRED FOR ALL THOSE WHO ARE THEIR CRITICS - AND I THINK THAT THIS IS THE PURPOSE BEHIND THE IDEOLOGY IN " JUDEOPHOBIA " : TO MANUFACTURE AN IRRATIONAL FEAR OF THOSE WHO CRITICISE THE STATE OF ISRAEL - BECAUSE WE CARE NOT ONLY ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN PALESTINE BUT ALSO ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN ISRAEL - IN THE MINDS OF BOTH THOSE WHO SUPPORT THE STATE IN ISRAEL AND THOSE WHO OPPOSE IT ... WHY AM I IMMUNE TO THIS ? ... BECAUSE I READ THE NEWSPAPERS IN ISRAEL WHICH FREELY CRITICISE THE STATE IN ISRAEL WITHOUT ANY OF THESE ALLEGATIONS OF " ANTI-SEMITISM " BEING MADE : THE PROMOTION OF " JUDEOPHOBIA " IN THE WORLD IS BLATANTLY A MATTER OF FOREIGN POLICY BY THE DEMOCRATS IN ISRAEL - AND IT DEEPLY OFFENDS ME WHEN THE DEMOCRATS IN WALES AND WESTMINSTER LECTURE ME ABOUT WHAT ANTI-SEMITISM IS WHEN MY JEWISH ANCESTRY AND THAT OF MOST OF MY CLOSER FRIENDS LIES IN THE PALE : WHEN THE NAZIS ARRIVED IN ESTONIA THEY WERE SHOCKED - AND LECTURED THE ESTIS ABOUT THE CRUEL WAYS IN WHICH THEY KILLED JEWS ... HOW CAN YOU DECIDE IF SOMEBODY IS BEING " ANTI-SEMITIC " ? ... WHEN THEY USE " THE JEWS " FOR THEIR OWN PURPOSES E.G. " HOLLYCAST " AND " THE SHOAH SHOW " ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT STAGED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE VICTIMS.

THAT IS WHY I STARTED MOCKING THE ZIONISTS WITH TERMS LIKE " THE JEWS IN THE NEWS " - OK ?

[ This has been in the phone for ages ... I feel very edgy about publishing it ... I now think that they escaped ... ]

Nazis - who took my family from you ? _Zionists - who stole my family for you ? _Hollywood - who sold my family to you ? _I.H.R.A. - who gave my family to you ? _My family belongs to G#d - not to you.


Nazis - who took my family from you ? _
Zionists - who stole my family for you ? _
Hollywood - who sold my family to you ? _
I.H.R.A. - who gave my family to you ? _
My family belongs to G#d - not to you.

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts The Moral Right - not to sue for copyright !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_Estonia

" Fewer than a dozen Estonian Jews are known to have survived the war in Estonia."

My mother's mother's mother's family came to England before World War One - and they still got bombed ...

Lil'Sis loves " Hollycast " and " The Shoah Show " - I deal in facts : I searched the lists for the names ...

... but then who makes lists of Jews' names ? ... Nazis, rabbis - and grandmothers ... you know who we fear ...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A conversation over the past week between The Republican in Wales ( = dai repwblic = Internationalist = The Red, White and Green Flag = The Left Wing ) and The Welsh Republican ( he has not explicitly volunteered his name to be published but he might = Nationalist = The Green, Red and White Flag = The Ring Wing ) re Cilmeri 18 and other entertaining matters besides " The Union Jacked Coffin."

This particular exchange began on Tuesday 20-11-18

Wondered if I could meet you for a pint this evening or this working week - idea for a bit of a political drama protest - probably needs six people + props - ?


Would you be so kind as to reply please ?


Dai I am so busy at the moment I have no time to breath...it is vey good the last one ..but I am doing Yes Cymru stuff...


Ah - XXXX was going on to me about Yes Cymru - a meeting before Cilmeri ? - I like the fact that he is an activist differently from me - but still distrust him.


INCIDENTLY - my DaiSaw wiki a/c seems to be allowed again - and I posted an email written to guy in USA at = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Free_Wales_Army = because a load of ignorant crap is being posted there : whilst as a Civ I do not want to endorse Mil - I do not want lies told about them either


INCIDENTLY - the dangerous game which I believe that The Free Wales Army were playing with in the 1960s = http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=6911#6911


Asamux told me that his browser was reporting " File not Found " for = http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=6911#6911 = and I then confirmed this in my browser so read the Cilmeri 2018 thread from the top = http://repwblic.informe.com/2018-rali-cilmeri-rally-2018-saturday-8th-december-dt1549.html


PROEM FOR DAF ( MORITZ ) = You know that today is - YOUR - day_When Prime Minister Theresa - YOUR - May_Will stand up in The Commons_And so issue The Summons_To The Suicidal in Politics who want it - YOUR - way. = dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right not to sue for copyright ! = http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=6920#6920


Prime cow is she full of pats for sound bites


I am imagining a Situationist Spectacle re " Union Jack'd coffins " - what if we decorated Cilmeri by holding a funeral for " poor little Britannia " - get it ?


There are times when I go up to Cilmeri_When I wish that it was some other rally_For there are things which are wrong_In The Land of Proems and Strong ... _Humour ... Could we carry Union Jack'd coffins - each valley ? = dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright ! = http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=6910#6910


That would be great a funeral for the damned,lol!


If " Mil " did it they would carry " The Union Jack'd Coffin " in a solemn procession in front of The Cambria Band playing solemn music and presumably after a suitable eulogy they would treat The Glorious Dead with respect and - G#D forbid it at Cilmeri - fire a salute over it = If " Civ " did it they would have a woman in The Parade clutching a child sized " Union Jack'd Coffin " who then weeps with hysterical grief as somebody else gives the eulogy for " Poor Little Brittania " who was still born and then still born again and again and again = either of these could be perceived as being really offensive and so The Wasted Male would lap it up & tell everybody about how both " Civ " and " Mil " are utterly obscene monsters who should all be jailed and sterilised etc = I have thought of doing this in a more participatory way - which I much prefer - in which all who come to Cilmeri in 2018 make a little " Union Jack'd Coffin " with the name of their community written upon it - with photos of their grandkids etc stuck on it - and everyone participates in it.


I would do a mass email about it but - whoever it was who has being doing things like deleting all the emails in our admin email repwblic@hotmail.co.uk and manipulating Google to make repwblic.informe.com invisible when people search for it has we think trashed the phpBB code of the forum so that it appears to be locked up - and we can not use our 1804 registered email addresses to do a mass email out to float this idea to the registered users of Y Repwblic - I had somebody recently suggest the name of a person in The Labour Party in Wales but I suspect that it is more likely to be a Zionista because of my criticism of Ersatz Israel and they are known to do such things - of course given my recent experience on Wikipedia this could be some nasty little Trot - anyhow every woman, man and their dog is convinced that this sort of thing is licenced by The State against Republicans - it can be quite funny when they walk up to me in the street on some feeble excuse and then try to sell me drugs or invite me home to play with their guns - it is pathetic that The Democrats in Wales and Westminster have no answers to our obvious questions and resort to these tactics - I felt sorry for one of them a couple of years ago who approached me cold near the house claiming to need advice about his love life so I took him to a pub and paid to get both of us drunk and told him all about Republicanism because that was obviously what he wanted - he was very pleased and forgot all about his " girlfriend " but thought I was lying


Oh dear...!


Eating my tea at mo, I am off to a meetimg after.


Hey - look at these - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draco_(military_standard) AND https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draco_(lawgiver) = THAT CAN NOT BE A COINCIDENCE = " Y DDRAIG GOCH " IS A VISUAL PUN ON " THE RULE OF LAW " ? " Y DDRAIG GOCH " IS " Y REPWBLIC " ? = Those sneaky Victorian bastards ! - That is unbelievable ! - No wonder the authorities were seizing and destroying The Red Dragon Flag ! - I always accepted the argument that they chose to copy the Henry VII banner as a way of displaying " The Roman Colours " of The Napoleonic Empire in Italy / Europe whilst pretending to be carrying " A Royal Standard " as a way of both supporting The Monarchy and identifying Democracy in Wales with a very complicated flag which The Oics in The Valleys could not easily copy and so keep them out of The Politics in The Drawing Room - i.e. Yr Oicsydd yng Nghymru were only to get the opportunity to vote for The Liberal Aristocrats lest they run off into notions above their stations like electing somebody like Mabon - which they promptly did anyway when they got the chance = But if " Y Ddraig Goch " = " The Rule of Law " = " Y Repwblic " = " Draco The Law Giver " = " The First Supreme Judge in Athens " = " The Draconian Law " = then " Y Repwbligwyr " intended exactly what " Y Gweriniaethwyr " in the 19c actually accused them of - that " Y Repwblic yng Nghymru " was going to be a " sister republic " of " La Republique en France " complete with The National Razor in Wales. We believed Y Repwbligwyr to be harmless loonies


I am really excited by that astounding fluke of luck - I clicked on the link to The Draco as The Roman Military Standard as I was snagging and fixing the piece which I wrote two days ago and it took me to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draco - I looked down the list for various options and I was just curious about " Draco (lawgiver) " and clicked on it - and my mind began to whirr at top speed - here was The Tetrahedron being described - The Perfect Pyramid which appears in some 18c Republican imagery - and then it clicked in my mind - " those sneaky Victorian bastards " - they were educated and immersed in all of this stuff - this is Republican Symbolism which is now inpenetrable to us because we do not share their Classical education = " Athens " is still " Democracy " in Welsh minds even now - so perhaps I am not the first to recognise that " Y Ddraig Goch " is a visual pun on " Draco the Lawgiver " and so means " The Rule of Law " and therefore " Y Repwblic " - but hell - is the implied sense of this then of " The Bloody Republic " with The Enemies of The People being slaughtered on The Guillotine ? = Without The Vote - and with The Bloody Code birching, hanging and transporting those who were stealing to eat - The History of The Republicans in Wales is traced out through our political ancestors trying to defend illiterates in court rooms from The Aristocracy in Wales who sat in judgement over The People in Wales - did The Repwbligwyr actually intend to recreate " The Draconian State " in revenge ?


To get back to the idea of a Situationist Spectacle this year at Cilmeri - the work involved if I am left to prepare it for others will be too much I think - I had made some notes into the mobile whilst I was walking around about what I remember about why The Funeral Protest was in effect banned rather than just died out - you have to imagine a real Chartist funeral conducted by a Chartist Chapel within which who was for Moral Force and who was for Physical Force might be unknown until they arrived at the graveside of a Chartist - or perhaps they already did know and " Civ " stood on one side of the grave and " Mil " on the other whilst The Father of The Chapel gave The Funeral Oration - then presumably " Civ " walked away cursing having scattered their handfuls of soil into The Grave and " Mil " let them go before passing around The Pistol to ensure that everybody left took their turn in The Act of Defiance - " Civ " would be hearing a series of menacing reports ringing out across their valley and counting each shot fired - and hovering over The Silence in between hoping that that " Mil " had finished rather than merely reloading The Pistol in order to begin again - in the 18c these would have been duelling pistols or pocket shots - not revolvers - and so would require a prolongued reloading sequence although presumably they did not waste lead bullets on the task but just rammed the wadding home over The Powder in The Gun and primed the pan or placed the cap on it - it was banned because it was coercive.


Keep your powder dry


I thought of putting my texts onto the thread - historical description - but perhaps not a good idea - I have a better idea about encouraging mass participation


If we could not get people in from Scotland, England and Northern Ireland we could symbolically have people carrying those flags as we " bury " The Union Jack.


I am supposing that you have finished your breakfast ... What I was thinking about was how I loathe those self-appointed spokespersons for The Republicans in Wales let alone The Welsh Republicans so I do not want to be one - let alone to make a bid to be The Leader in Republican Wales because I come into this from Anarcho-Republicanism and so I loathe anybody making a personal bid for political authority when that rests solely upon The Agreement about The Facts and The Arguments - otherwise each of The Factions within The Rainbow should speak for themselves in The Dialectic - which is why I advocate for The Open Conspiracy which rules out The Black Faction although obviously they are not about to go away having continually re-appeared for over six hundred years in various ways - " Black " is a symptom of The Politics in The United Kingdom because it is a non-political system - but I estimate their number to be no more than fifty at the moment - the question is how many Civs there are and my estimate is in excess of 500,000 i.e. 20% of The People in Wales identify as " Republican " - whatever that means to them - but they are not going to cast their votes for a party - Republican Democrat or Democratic Republican - if it offends their Morality or Ethics i.e. this is Wales not Ireland or England or Scotland or France or America - which is why we should be drawing upon our own native Republicanisms not foreign ones because they were shaped by our nation's values - but of course I do exactly that - it is fun.


When H.G.Wells proposed The Open Conspiracy he described it as being dependent upon the means to communicate - what he anticipated as the successor of The Invisible College and The Corresponding Society was The Open University in which a vast centralised library could be accessed from a telephone line - he predicted The Internet but did not understand how The World Wide Web would not be centralised but Democratised which of course is both The Curse and The Blessing with most of The People in Wales not recognising how they are having their minds shaped by the various ideological agendas of those who have the means to control what is fed to them - The Nerds did not think that this was going to be a problem because when they turn to The Interbet they are not trawling but selective in their searches - but The Geeks have recognised that Google as the most used search engine is manipulating the results of their searches and is either doing so because of The Demands of The States or The Demands of The Corporations who increasingly control The States e.g. China - try using other search engines and you will see the difference - I was in England recently and a search on Google.co.uk did not produce Y Repwblic whereas a search on Google.com in The USA produced normal results - The UK has apparently done a deal with Google to conceal the presence of political dissenters from The People in The UK i.e. The Public Discourse which is The Basis in Welsh Political Society is being manipulated - De Res Publica is subverted.


The Family became estranged after the row between Balchder Cymru and Y Repwblic at Cilmeri 2012 - if you know of some suitable go-between to communicate this to in Balchder let them know that I just wrote this account of The Western Mail fiasco so that they can comment upon it if they wish - loads of ignorant prejudiced crap is being published on Wikipedia and I am glad that there is no Y Repwblic page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Balchder_Cymru


There is now ... some ... thing ... about Cilmeri this year_Which is driving my writing - so please lend The Ear : _The Welsh are in trouble - for they have now changed The Mind -_And they will need The New Party - but who will they find ? _These Three Years which come next ... we all ought to fear ... = dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts The Moral Right - not to sue for copyright ! = THE THREAD BEGINS HERE = http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1549 = I THINK THIS IS GOING TO END ON MICRO-PARTIES WHICH I DESCRIBED HERE = http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1327


Yes Cymru is the new deliverer making parties inactive.


" making parties inactive " - ? - Do you mean other parties are being laid down in favour of or converging into one coalition ? - I do not think that will work.


Nor me no I meant non of them are good enough to give Cymru what it needs they are all neo liberal including Plaid. We will pit a government in that putd Cymru first no second best


I would just make The People in Wales equal to The People in The World - if The People in England vote to be slaves let them - surely we need The Draconian Law


I never mentioned the English they can get on with it


Exactly - like The People in Israel can get on with it if we believe in non-interference in the political systems of other communities which we do not belong to - but we have opinions about what they do and can cheer and boo at what they do - but the problem with The Welsh Assembly is that it is only allowed as a privilege not respected as the right to decide our own affairs - it gets its cash by begging it from Westminster and if The United Kingdom does not like what Wales does then it just withdraws the cash - and Parliament has reserved the right to withdraw more than cash from Wales - Y Senedd can be closed down within an hour by English MPs simply voting for that if they want to - this is an intolerable situation in which Welsh AMs pass a law or make a policy and The Prime Minister simply instructs The Supreme Court to strike Welsh laws and policies down - now go read that thread that I am writing on


Isreal would get on with it


Oh dear - what should I make of The Welsh Republican saying that to The Republican in Wales ? - How far to The Right are you ? - DON'T ANSWER THAT ! - Because I want to ask you - since you have not commented much on these long texts - whether I can publish this conversation on that thread about Cilmeri 18


AGAIN - NO NEED TO ANSWER TO THIS VIEW OF THINGS ! - I can understand why The Right in The 1950's worshiped Israel when Wales looked so similar - but after 1967 ? Surely The People in Wales are The Palestinians in The UK ? Have we also had a Bundist V Zionist argument running for 80+ years in The Family?


I dont see it as so one sided.


Zionism is not Judaism there are victims on both sides and I believe there are more than Palestinians in Palestine.


I do not see us Palestinians I see us as Jews in Germany before the 2nd world war.


Very interesting reply - can I publish this conversation please ? - It contains several interesting things and I like your reply - " Conversations with Wales Republicans " was the original theme of Y Repwblic - the intention was to just to let people talk about things and express their own Republicanisms.


Sure go for it


Chwarae teg has alwas beebn our dywedwn..not lets follow Labours anti jewish rhethreg


I was hoping that you would say ok - DIOLCH YN FAWR - I like the remarks which you made but this Anti-Semitism scare is manufactured. I think that without suspecting what I was about to embark upon I am simulteously on a recruiting drive for Cilmeri and going back to do what I think of doing every year for Cilmeri which is to provide some kind of thought provoking leaflet as a souvenir each year which is useful e.g. for years I have had a leaflet about The Model in the computer half finished but this has already been taken to mean that I endorse Fascism - I just observe it as The Fact that (a) it is a commonplace way of thinking which has been given a variety of new names since WW2 which just confuses the issue (b) probably at least ten percent of The People in Wales agree with that way of thinking and they are law abiding useful citizens and entitled both to be treated with due respect and to have a share in The Public Discourse like everyone else (c) Mussolini, Hitler and Franco professed themselves to be Fascists but then Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot professed themselves to be Communists - and Obama is supposedly a Liberal - basically ideologies of all sorts are pretended to by various kinds of politicians but The Democrats in The World are all Liars who deceive and divide The People in The World into nations, parties and some into outcasts from The People - who when left to themselves to discover The Truth about each other discover The Love and are shocked to have been suckered in by The Hate in Democracy.


When I described above The Democrats as dividing The People into nations and parties this does not mean that I am against ordinary Nationalist Republicanism ( although my bias is to Internationalism ) but I am against those who think that Republicanism is some kind of extremist Nationalism in which hating The English is the theme of The Glorious Day - as I told you before my dad's mam's first language was Cymraeg which she spoke in a shrill Carmarthenshire accent - he was taught Welsh in Porth Grammar where they made him speak in a " proper " accent and he won a school eisteddfod prize and praised his diction yet Mamgu thought that this was hilarious - my dad was brought up in London and for mamgu had a Cockney accent ! My dad was born in 1932 in Cefneithn in his grandparent's house - it is still called Gwynfaes I think - but so many people retire to Wales who can not even pronounce Welsh and like to give their new homes the name which they want - for all I know it has been re-named in English thus in the blink of a postcode centuries of Welsh history are wiped out - e.g. Trefyrhyg was a cottage in a hidden valley near Tonyrefail where Quakers met together when they were being hunted to collectively plan their escape to The Welsh Tract promised to them in Pennsylvania - Americans come looking for it and there is a Victorian house nearby which is called (Treferig House?) and the owner cons them that it is 16c - he actually demolished the history of The USA and used it as hardcore to make his house's drive.


Anyway - " The Last Post " - I am having a lot of fun with this " recruiting drive " for Rali Cilmeri and in future I think that I will do this again - I first did this to try to interest The People in Wales in Y Dydd Rhydd i.e. to come to a Rali Caerphili on Bastille Day to commemorate The Picnic in The Park in 1790 when The Revolution in France was still peaceable and The People in France were so pleased that their revolution had not been The Bloody War in The USA - that they were so urbane and civilised in comparison to those colonial heathens who had ruined their country with Fanatical Religion and Votes for All - oh dear ... We did a bit of Civil Religion there - Daf improvised a wonderful ceremony of Unsheathing The Pen and demanding of us " Oes Heddwch ? " and we all replied " Nac Oes ! " - We usually just sing The International and go to the pub as grey-bearded-old-beans but The David Williams Memorial Park would be great for younger people with kids - The Summer Rally ? - As to my " Union Jack'd Coffin " idea for The Winter Rally - I am thinking of suggesting that as a theme for others to improvise upon so that everybody could feel involved instead of being just spectators - in other words take a leaf out of The Chartists' Book of The Dead which is akin to " Passing The Pistol " but not so coercive - participation is an important way to persuade The People in Wales to identify with Republicanism - but ordering them all to fall in line and do as I say not as I do is a mistake - we are not an army.


[ PRESUMABLY THIS MAY CONTINUE - HOW THE HELL AM I GOING TO FIND SOMEBODY TO PLAY THE BUGLE ? ]

[ YES - I KNOW - A BIT DAI-SIDED : BUT MATTERS ARE LIKE THIS AT THE MOMENT ]

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I put those texts up last night but I explained that I had not been given your explicit permission to name you - so it might be better that way. I can draw a lot of flack sometimes.
Still speculating as to whether I could stage stunt with just six - mock funeral prayer version #2


Our President - Who art in Y Repwblic - Hallowed be Thy fame - When Y Repwblic comes - Thy will is done - On Earth as It is in Heaven - Give us The Day - Our daily bread - And some cheese please - But forgive not those - Who trespass against us - And lead us into Revolution - For Thou can deliver us - From all evils - For Thine is Y Repwblic - And we seek Thy power - And glory - For every woman - and every man !
Still speculating as to whether I could stage stunt with just six - mock funeral prayer version #2


Our President - Who art in " Y Repwblic " - Hallowed be Thy fame - When " Y Repwblic " comes - Thy will is done - On Earth as It is in Heaven - Give us The Day - Our daily bread - And some cheese please - But forgive not those - Who trespass against us - And lead us into Revolution - For Thou can deliver us - From all evils - For Thine is " Y Repwblic " - And we seek Thy power - And glory - For every woman - and every man ! = dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts The Moral Right - not to sue for copyright ! = http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=6931#6931


Lets get our house in order the Cymru way then we can get out into the small bad world


Smile Perhaps as soon as we get out Mil can declare war on The USA. We will lose of course and then we can apply for Marshall Aid to have the means to reconstruct


I am still thinking about The Union Jack'd Coffin because The Chartists might rise from The Grave to ask us questions - 2018 is 180th anniversary of The Charter


Do you like your privacy ? https://protonmail.com - based in Switzerland - free - encrypted - anonymous - very private - I can't use it in The Open Conspiracy.


I just added a sort of manifesto of Wittgensteinian Republicanism to the bottom of that thread - just a paragraph - please read it as a friend and comment ?


Nos 31 & 33 next door were lots 59 & 60 in an auction = lot 62 - The Ancient Historical Title of The Lordship of the Manor of Aston Pygod - probably Pysgod ?


THIS POEM DEPICTS THE KIND OF POLITICAL RALLY WHICH I AM GOING TO ON SATURDAY 8TH DECEMBER - ALL COLOURS WILL BE THERE - CONVENTIONAL ELECTED POLITICIANS WILL SPEAK - AND " THE BLACK FACTION " - AS I DUB THEM - WILL LEAD THE PARADE IN CILMERI 2018.

The Dame Florence School for Young Delinquent Witches

" Now here at The Dame Florence School for Young Delinquent Witches_We try to - HEY !!! - STOP PLAYING WITH THOSE SWITCHES !!! - _Um ... er ... to try to teach you all - to Make The Circle More Wide_And do at least try to get on with each other - and - do not be so snide - _For I wish to instruct you all ... to be lady-like - instead of little bitches ... " = " Now - I will call you out by colour - and then you can give The Name_And tell us all of your misdemeanours - and whom you want to blame : _Relate tales tall - about your magic - as to whether it was good or bad -_For I want you now to think about it - to consider if it makes you glad -_To have hurt so many of The People - with every kind of naughty game ... " = " Blue ? " - " Maggie - and I never - ever - did anything that was possibly wrong :_When I punished them for striking - that - was - be - cause - I - am - strong -_And so I will not listen to your opinions_Whilst all around me my weak minions_
Deny these broken families' cries - for was I not The Winner - at The Gong ? " = " Yellow ? " - " Shirley - well - I was brought up - quite politely -_And have therefore not done nothing which is un-sightly_Except for performing - in public - ' The Splits ' -_Which indeed left my audiences screaming in fits :_They all complained - of course - but I just smiled on brightly ! " = " Red ? " - " Bar-bar-rah - huh ! - I my-seylf wars ed-ew-kay-ted_To tay-ke hiy-he of-fiss whey-re I fay-mess-ly play-kay-ted _They Yew-ni-ons huym I awl tran-spor-ted_Arnd - in mey oh-pin-yun - wars miss-re-port-ed_WRONGLY - I wood 'ayve theym awl car-stray-ted ... " = " Orange ? " - " Emma ... I do not hold with education_When in the hands of The State called ... " Nation "_I strongly object to - everything which is Right_And I have always joined in with - every fight :_My Propaganda in The Deed is - ASSASSINATION !!! " = " Purple ? " - " Er ... Adela ... why have I been brought here ?_I have repented - and I have made my amends ... I fear ... _That none of you - will be able to - go out and find your peace -_As I have now done - with my new friends - The Political Police :_So I am just working my ticket - have I made myself clear ? " = " Green ? " - " Leanne - I am but a housewife ... who was cruelly led astray_By The Friend of the friend - who invited me ... over to Y Repwblic's Day : _I thought that he was against ... The Queen - like me -_Because I did not understand ... The Scene - you see ? _But The Republicans in Wales ... deal in The Rule of Law - so I ran away !!! " = " Black ? " - " Pauline ... I am really - truly - sorry ... NO I AM BLOODY NOT !!! _We must defend our nation - and we must use what we have got : _Imagination is our weapon - we do not need guns - or bombs - to fight : _" Das Freie Korps in Wales " is here to stay - just to give you all a fright ! -_Because we are proud of our traditions - whilst ' dai ' is talking - ' ROT !!! ' " = " White ? " - " Oh ! - That is me ! - And of course - my name is Flo ! _My magic is now Republican - but this took some time to grow -_Because I have neither been selected -_Nor do I ever - never ! - want to be elected :_For voting is surely not political - what we need is analytical - in order to rebuild The Rainbow - !!! " = dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts The Moral Right - not to sue for copyright ! = http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=6938#6938 [ /color]
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Interesting, phones playing up at mo.


Yes - my mobile was reporting all outgoing texts as " not sent " yesterday and the day before - I reported this to The Met just as I reported the fact that Y Repwblic had disappeared first from Google.co.uk and then Google.com ( and then discovered that other Republican groups of both Left and Right had disappered from the internet ) and a few hours later this stopped just as Y Repwblic had re-appeared after my complaint = I do not think that we are being targeted by law abiding people i.e. these may be self-appointed activists or they may be dis-ownable individuals being paid to do this by the security services = The Police in Wales clearly understand the activities of our various groups and know these are legal but may be under political pressure from ?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from Brexit, Universal Credit, Personal Income Payment, The National Health Service, The Rational Wealth Service and ... and ... well - everything !

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/01/political-issues-2018-homelessness-universal-credit-social-care-child-poverty

Set Brexit aside – here are the political issues you mustn’t lose sight of in 2018 - Frances Ryan

With unprecedented government cuts, hard times lie ahead for millions affected by poverty, homelessness, disability, universal credit and the social care crisis

Homelessness

Britain has seen a staggering rise in homelessness ... every hour in England, five families become homeless

Social care

Almost 1.2 million older people in Britain, as well as another one million disabled people, are living without the social care they need for basics such as eating, dressing and washing ... by the end of this financial year, £6bn will have been gutted from social care budgets since 2010

Universal Credit

The rollout of universal credit (UC) has already created mass hardship, from increased food bank use to families being forced to “sell everything” to cope with the system’s delays. But 2018 will see a radical increase in areas transferring to UC – with millions of families eventually forced on to the chaotic system

Personal Independence Payments

The rollout of personal independence payments (PIPs) in recent years has been plagued by incorrectly removing disabled people’s benefits and even alleged dishonesty by assessors. For an insight into how inhumane this system is, in December one local paper reported the case of an incontinent cancer survivor forced to “reuse baby nappies after being left penniless”

Child poverty

In 2018 Britain will be on the cusp of a new era of child poverty. As universal credit, “two-child limit” tax credits and child benefit freezes set in, the Institute for Fiscal Studies predicts the next five years will see the number of children living in poverty soar to a staggering 5.2 million (or 37% of all children). That’s the highest percentage since modern records began

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THOSE ABOVE ARE THE ISSUES FOR THE POOR - AND - THESE BELOW ARE THE ISSUES FOR THE RICH
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https://uk.isidewith.com/polls - The Ten Most Contested Issues - according to those asking the questions !

https://uk.isidewith.com/poll/426151096 - Deporting Immigrants Suspected of Ideologies !

https://uk.isidewith.com/poll/420242762 - Privatising The National Health Service !

https://uk.isidewith.com/poll/421957747 - Refusing Medical Care to Foreigners !

https://uk.isidewith.com/poll/421947292 - Subsidising Commuter Transport !

https://uk.isidewith.com/poll/420427834 - Constructing High Speed Railways !

https://uk.isidewith.com/poll/449555764 - Abolishing The Human Rights Act !

https://uk.isidewith.com/poll/771397790 - Preventing Tax Evasion !

https://uk.isidewith.com/poll/804675860 - Abolishing The British Monarchy !

https://uk.isidewith.com/poll/657902424 - Reintroducing Grammar Schools !

https://uk.isidewith.com/poll/965629 - Restricting Abortion Rights !

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I THINK THAT WE MIGHT WELL BE DETECTING THE BRITISH CLASS SYSTEM THERE - ARE WE NOT ???
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Now ... let us just cast our minds back to 1838 ... Iolo Morganwg has been dead for twelve years and despite his hatred of The Church of England as an arm of The State in Wales and his rejecting it in favour of Unitarianism they have still managed to procure his corpse as their property and bury him in a dark corner of Flemingstone church and thus have become his jailors once again ... Decades beforehand The Wondering Bard had tried to settle down for his wife's sake upon a small holding in Castleton - a village to the east of Cardiff - and whether it was incompetence ( unlikely ) or laziness ( no - never : Iolo was always busy helping those less fortunate and less educated than himself ) or laudanum ( possibly ) or just the urge to write reams of cryptic nonsense and suspect histories which glorified his little country ( i.e. Morganwg ) and greatly magnified it within the context of all of the other most important countries surrounding it ( such as Meirionnydd ) to the point where those countries of lesser importance entirely disappeared from his view ( e.g. England ) ...

... Well, to cut a longer story shorter he either could not afford to pay his local taxes or would not afford to pay those tithes to The Church of England ... perhaps in it being attached to a country which had entirely disappeared from his view he just treated The Bishop's tax demands as just so much junk mail - albeit the backs of the envelopes were useful to scribble upon ... in other words unlike myself but a few minutes ago Iolo answered the knock at the door and found himself thrown into Cardiff Castle's prison by The Episcopal Registration Officer because he had refused to pay - or could not pay - or forgot to pay - The Uncivil Penalty ... and therefore The Bishop then marched Iolo's wife and children out of his parish and they then played Pass on The Parishioner with her whilst they played Piss on The Prisoner with him ... Of course - jailing people or making them homeless just because they are unable to pay their taxes, rents or grocery bills has never been a good idea but in The United Kingdom it has always been a popular idea and The Democrats in Westminster always believed that they could do stupid things so much more efficiently and so much more cheaply when they organised stupidity on a large scale.

So instead of realising that the majority of countries did not imprison poor people because it is immoral or at best amoral they decided to build so many more efficiently cheaper prisons to warehouse The Poor in Wales in and thus severely punish them for being poor in order that when they had served their time breaking rocks without any wages at all they would in future always make sure that they were never so poor that they did not pay their wealthy priests and wealthier landlords all the money which they demanded - after all when your employer got to the end of the week and paid you your wages he was always careful to point out how much you owed him and generously added that to debts already incurred in buying the food and goods which he had conscientiously provided at extortionate prices leaving you just enough to give the rest of your wages to his brother the landlord or priest who was often one and the same person anyway ... The Work House has long gone - ooh - all of thirty years now since the last one was sold off to property developers : it is now considered to be so much more efficiently cheaper make homeless beggars of The Poor in Wales ... especially for The Conservative Governments.

1838 ... 2018 ... has anything changed ? ... The Poverty and The Debt which imprisoned Iolo Morgannwg and turned his wife and children out onto The Open Road have returned ... or rather they never went away ... because the cause of The Poverty and The Debt in 1838 is the same as the cause of The Poverty and The Debt in 2018 : The United Kingdom as a non-political system which is not accountable to The Rule of Law ... whose laws and policies are made to serve the private interests of those who control The Democrats in Wales and Westminster ... you think that your local councillors represent you ? ... How can they ? ... Everything which they do is determined in Ten Downing Street : how on earth can a dozen people sit around The Cabinet Table and make any informed decisions about The Lives in The Homes of The People in The United Kingdom ? ... And you think that I am crazy ? ... The United Kingdom is nothing more than a disorganised heap of paperwork : it is not The Geography in Britain and Northern Ireland - it is not The People in Wales - or The People in England - or The People in Scotland - or The People in Scotland - or The People in Northern Ireland ... it is The Legal System : politics is about making laws - and breaking laws ... if a law results in injustice we do not hesitate to campaign to get rid of it - so why do we refuse to even think about getting rid of The Legal System ... and The Non-political System which it creates ? ...

... The Legal System is what Republicans hate - not The Royal Family : they are merely a symptom of The Society in The United Kingdom - and in the next three years that is going to be placed under severe distress by Brexit : what is " Brexit " ? ... It is a disorganised heap of paperwork : The Geography in Britain and Northern Ireland changes gradually over time - and The People in Wales and England and Scotland and Northern Ireland change gradually over time - but The United Kingdom ? ... Perhaps you were taught at school that it was as timeless and unchanging as The Word of God ... Pick up The Bible - available from all good booksellers or order one online for free in order to get one delivered to your door from one of The Churches in The World - even better : lift just The One Finger and order The Koran and The Torah and - well, whatever : Das Kapital - or some other sacred text - and once you have received it there is absolutely no reason for you to expend any further effort in trying to read it or understand it ... just weigh it up in your hand ... will you choose The Heavier Book ? ... or The Lighter Book ? ... It will be a disorganised heap of paperwork : but it will have something in it that is of interest for you - but note that this is your own interest in it - it does not have any interest in you ... it has no more interest in you than The United Kingdom has any interest in you ... chuck it in the bin - bury it - burn it ... it is a book - not a person ...

... Surely you found that painless ? ... And interesting ? ... No gods were harmed in the writing of that paragraph !

Halsbury's Laws of England is a book - begun in 1907 by 1917 it amounted to 31 volumes - by 1941 that became 37 volumes - by 1964 that became 43 volumes - by 1987 that became 56 volumes - the fifth edition was begun in 2008 and it is estimated that it will amount to 103 volumes - but do not worry : we will not run out of fuel for The Bonfire of The Vanities in The English Law - because there is an annual and monthly updating service ... All courtesy of The Parliament in England and The National Assembly in Wales ... It is much better to Cook The Books instead of The People in England - or indeed The People in Wales ... but there is this strange notion abroad that burning books leads to burning people ... mmm ... well - perhaps we could learn something from The History in The Books before we burn them ... The Hierocrats in Wales and The World are usually pretty keen on The Death Penalty in The Case of The Smart-Arses in Wales and The World - and they usually like to quote Genesis 2:17 where God tells Adam " But of the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat of it, for on the day that you eat thereof, you shall surely die."...

... Hierocrats in general rely upon The Book to justify their authority to kill you - more or less for no other reason than to set an ethical example to others - The School Teachers in Wales are of course no more than The Spiritual Descendants of The Hierocrats in Ancient Wales ... In the 19c school teachers used to put those kinds of small children who constantly asked who why what when etc into wicker baskets and then hoisted them into the rafters to shut them up whilst cursing that The Ancient Druids in Wales never had to worry about explaining away The Holes in The School Register ... The Book is usually The Torah or The Testament or The Koran or The Hobbit etc and it really does not matter which provided that it is reasonably thick and difficult to make sense of so that they can wave it around and declare that in The Scripture in The Hobbit in Chapter Three - Paragraph Four - The Holy Messiah in Bilbo Baggins and The Thirteen Disciples declared to The Elves that they were not The Chosen People and so trashed Rivendell and - yes ? - NO ! - I am not going to let you read my lecture notes - and - look : this is The Book in My Hand - and - ! WHACK ! - stop snivelling child - this is The True Faith and - oh ? - !

" Lowrins' ! - Wot ar' yew doin utsieyd o'mey offiss ageyn ? " ... " er ... I av' ... er ... bin trown ut o' The Kingdum of Mr Eyvan ... ageyn ... " ... " Weyl - theyr's Thu Yinglissh Litirichur' fo' yew ... dia'ol fach ! "

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http://adfywiadcymru.blogspot.com/2017/12/rali-cilmeri-2018-never-too-early-to.html

Taking a break - The One Finger is getting a bit sore - so I browsed a bit and - oh ... Gethin was even quicker off the mark than me - by eleven months ... not very good months for me though ... ah - well : this is not turning up.

http://cofiwn.blogspot.com/2017/12/rali-cilmeri-2018-returns-to-good-ole.html

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Now - ugh - 11.45 AM TUESDAY 27-11-18 : I am ill with Cyclothymia again ... but let us press on ...

I think that what I was pointing out in the above is that The Class War in The United Kingdom continues and back in 1838 things were becoming bitter ... The Great Reform Act had excited The Mind in The People : it had finally put an end to many of the abuses within The Political System in The United Kingdom but it had not reformed it ... So The Agenda in Radical Politics moved on to The Next Business which had already been lobbied for in the previous decades ... There were many issues that The Democrats in Wales and Westminster wanted addressed but The Aristocrats in Wales and Westminster who controlled The Parliament in The United Kingdom promptly ignored them all again - and we have the same situation again in 2018 as you can see from those two lists of issues which I culled above which exactly demonstrate that The Class War still exists : what The People in The Poverty in Wales, England, Scotland and Northern Ireland are pre-occupied with are matters to do with basic human necessities - what The People in The Money in Northern Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales are pre-occupied with are matters to do with basically human luxuries ... The People in The Poverty want The State in The United Kingdom to spend The Revenue upon providing them with subsidies for food and shelter because they are on lower incomes ... The People in The Money want The State in The United Kingdom to spend The Revenue upon providing them with subsidies for transport and education because they are on higher incomes ... 2018 looked suspiciously like 1838 ?

2018 however is different from 1838 in a significant way : both were years of despair - but in 1838 they had hope.

The Despair in 2018 was The 180th Anniversary of The Hope in 1838 : we did not even remember The Charter ...

... The Chartists in The Grave remember that unfinished business of The Annual Election in A Democratic Society !

It occurs to me that we should be not be burying The Union Jack'd Coffin - but digging up The Chartists in Wales !

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartism

Chartism was a working-class movement for political reform in Britain that existed from 1838 to 1857. It took its name from The People's Charter of 1838 and was a national protest movement, with particular strongholds of support in Northern England, the East Midlands, the Staffordshire Potteries, the Black Country, and the South Wales Valleys. Support for the movement was at its highest in 1839, 1842, and 1848, when petitions signed by millions of working people were presented to the House of Commons. The strategy employed was to use the scale of support which these petitions and the accompanying mass meetings demonstrated to put pressure on politicians to concede manhood suffrage. Chartism thus relied on constitutional methods to secure its aims, though there were some who became involved in insurrectionary activities, notably in south Wales and in Yorkshire.

The People's Charter called for six reforms to make the political system more democratic:

A vote for every man twenty-one years of age, of sound mind, and not undergoing punishment for a crime.

The secret ballot to protect the elector in the exercise of his vote.

No property qualification for Members of Parliament in order to allow the constituencies to return the man of their choice.

Payment of Members, enabling tradesmen, working men, or other persons of modest means to leave or interrupt their livelihood to attend to the interests of the nation.

Equal constituencies, securing the same amount of representation for the same number of electors, instead of allowing less populous constituencies to have as much or more weight than larger ones.

Annual Parliamentary elections, thus presenting the most effectual check to bribery and intimidation, since no purse could buy a constituency under a system of universal manhood suffrage in each twelve-month period. [ AND TO SWIFTLY REMOVE THE LAZY, INCOMPETENT AND DISHONEST DEMOCRATS ]

[ THE FIRST FIVE POINTS OF THE CHARTER HAVE BEEN SECURED - THE SIXTH REMAINS TO BE DONE ]

Chartists saw themselves fighting against political corruption and for democracy in an industrial society, but attracted support beyond the radical political groups for economic reasons, such as opposing wage cuts and unemployment. ... In 1837, six Members of Parliament and six working men, including William Lovett ( from the London Working Men's Association, set up in 1836 ) formed a committee, which in 1838 published the People's Charter. This set out the six main aims of the movement. The achievement of these aims would give working men a say in law-making : they would be able to vote, and their vote would be protected by a secret ballot; and they would be able to stand for election to the House of Commons as a result of the removal of property qualifications and the introduction of payment for MPs. None of these demands were new, but the People's Charter was to become one of the most famous political manifestos of 19th century Britain ...

... Chartism was launched in 1838 by a series of enormous meetings in Birmingham, Glasgow and the north of England. A huge meeting was held on Kersal Moor near Salford, Lancashire, on 24 September 1838 with speakers from all over the country. Speaking in favour of manhood suffrage, Joseph Rayner Stephens declared that Chartism was a " knife and fork, a bread and cheese question." These words indicate the importance of economic factors in the launch of Chartism. If, as the movement came together, there were different priorities amongst local leaders, the Charter and the Star soon created a national, and largely united, campaign of national protest. John Bates, an activist, recalled - " There were [ radical ] associations all over the county, but there was a great lack of cohesion. One wanted the ballot, another manhood suffrage and so on ... The radicals were without unity of aim and method, and there was but little hope of accomplishing anything. When, however, the People's Charter was drawn up ... clearly defining the urgent demands of the working class, we felt we had a real bond of union; and so transformed our Radical Association into local Chartist centres " ...

... " 1842 was the year in which more energy was hurled against the authorities than in any other of the 19th century." In early May 1842, a second petition, of over three million signatures, was submitted, and was yet again rejected by Parliament. The Northern Star commented on the rejection - " Three and half millions have quietly, orderly, soberly, peaceably but firmly asked of their rulers to do justice ; and their rulers have turned a deaf ear to that protest. Three and a half millions of people have asked permission to detail their wrongs, and enforce their claims for RIGHT, and ' The House ' has resolved they should not be heard ! Three and a half millions of the slave-class have holden out the olive branch of peace to the enfranchised and privileged classes and sought for a firm and compact union, on the principle of EQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW ; and the enfranchised and privileged have refused to enter into a treaty ! The same class is to be a slave class still. The mark and brand of inferiority is not to be removed. The assumption of inferiority is still to be maintained. The people are not to be free." ...

... The depression of 1842 led to a wave of strikes, as workers responded to the wage cuts imposed by employers. Calls for the implementation of the Charter were soon included alongside demands for the restoration of wages to previous levels. Working people went on strike in fourteen English and eight Scottish counties, principally in the Midlands, Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, and the Strathclyde region of Scotland. Typically, strikers resolved to cease work until wages were increased " until the People's charter becomes the Law of the Land." ... The state hit back. Several Chartist leaders, including O'Connor, George Julian Harney, and Thomas Cooper were arrested. During the late summer of 1842 hundreds were incarcerated – in the Potteries alone 116 men and women went to prison. A smaller number, but still amounting to many dozens - such as William Ellis, who was convicted on perjured evidence - were transported. However, the government's most ambitious prosecution, personally led by the Attorney General, of O'Connor and 57 others ( including almost all Chartism's national executive ) failed : none were convicted of the serious charges, and those found guilty of minor offences were never actually sentenced ...

... Candidates embracing Chartism also stood on numerous occasions in general elections. There were concerted campaigns in the election of 1841 and election of 1847, when O'Connor was elected for Nottingham. Feargus became the only Chartist to be elected an MP; it was a remarkable victory for the movement. More commonly, Chartist candidates participated in the open meetings, called hustings, that were the first stage of an election. They frequently won the show of hands at the hustings, but then withdrew from the poll to expose the deeply undemocratic nature of the electoral system. This is what Harney did in a widely reported challenge against Lord Palmerston in Tiverton, Devon, in 1847. The last Chartist challenge at a parliamentary poll took place at Ripon in 1859 ... With O'Connor elected an MP and Europe swept by revolution, it was hardly surprising that Chartism re-emerged as a powerful force in 1848. On 10 April 1848, a new Chartist Convention organised a mass meeting on Kennington Common, which would form a procession to present a third petition to Parliament. The estimate of the number of attendees varies depending on the sources (O'Connor said 300,000; the government, 15,000; The Observer newspaper suggested 50,000). Historians say 150,000. ...

... The authorities were well aware that the Chartists had no intention of staging an uprising, but were still intent on a large-scale display of force to counter the challenge. 100,000 special constables were recruited to bolster the police force. In any case, the meeting was peaceful. The military had threatened to intervene if working people made any attempt to cross the Thames, and the petition was delivered to Parliament by a small group of Chartist leaders. ... The Chartists declared that their petition was signed by 6 million people, but House of Commons clerks announced that it was a lesser figure of 1.9 million. In truth, the clerks could not have done their work in the time allocated to them; but their figure was widely reported, along with some of the pseudonyms appended to the petition such as " Punch " and " Sibthorp " ( an ultra-Tory MP,) and the credibility of Chartism was undermined ... The high-point of the Chartist threat to the establishment in 1848 came not in on 10 April but in June, when there was widespread drilling and arming in the West Riding and the devising of plots in London. The banning of public meetings, and new legislation on sedition and treason ( rushed through Parliament immediately after 10 April,) drove a significant number of Chartists .. into the planning of insurrection ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartism_in_Wales

Chartism originated in Wales in Carmarthen under the influence of Hugh Williams, a solicitor and radical reformer. Williams claimed he " got up the first radical meeting in south Wales " in the autumn of 1836 when he founded Carmarthen Working Men's Association. This followed on from the foundation the previous year of the London Working Men's Association by William Lovett and Henry Hetherington, Hetherington was a friend of Hugh Williams and is likely to have influenced his activities in south Wales. The People's Charter, embodying six points, was published in May 1838, with an address by Lovett and Hetherington. It became the focus of widespread meetings in support of its objectives throughout Britain. The People's Charter was later published in Welsh increasing the movement's appeal in Welsh-speaking areas. Chartism in Wales reached its climax in November 1839 with the Newport Rising and subsequent treason trial of Chartist leaders ... It was at Newtown, Montgomeryshire that the first great Chartist demonstration in Wales was held on 10 October 1838. The movement here had been led by Thomas Powell, also a personal friend of Hugh Williams and Henry Hetherington. Powell was described by R Williams, in Montgomeryshire Worthies, as " a fiery little Welshman, who had much of the rebel in him, albeit a sensible man, clever and wary " However it was the crisis in the flannel industry in Montgomeryshire in 1838, and the economic insecurity that followed, that led to the spread of Chartism across the county ... At the end of April 1839, a Chartist uprising took place in Llanidloes. This was the first outbreak of violence in the name of Chartism in Wales. The town was controlled by the protesters until the arrival of the Shropshire Yeomanry ...

... By the end of 1838, several WMA branches had been founded across Monmouthshire. The first was at Pontypool, probably in 1837. It was towards the end of July 1838 that a branch was formed at Newport. Its founders were baker William Edwards and veteran radical and printer Samuel Etheridge. Soon afterwards, the draper and magistrate, John Frost was also involved in its meetings. A characteristic of the membership of the WMAs in their early days was the prevalence of artisans and tradesmen ... In Glamorgan the centre of Chartism was at Merthyr Tydfil. Then the largest town in Wales ( with a population of 34,977 in 1841,) it had a long radical tradition. The Merthyr Rising had taken place ten years earlier. The Merthyr branch of the Working Men's Association was formed in October 1838, where Morgan Williams, described by Jones as a " small entrepreneur " was its secretary and leading spokesman at the time ... The scope of the movement in Wales was broadened when Chartist missionaries began to target the industrial districts of Wales. The charismatic Henry Vincent, was at the forefront of this campaign. " When he was invited to speak in Pontnewydd, well over a thousand people packed into the grounds behind John Llewellyn's beerhouse."... Famous Welsh physician William Price was a very well known activist supporter of Chartism in 1839 ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_Rising

The Newport Rising was the last large-scale armed rebellion against authority in Great Britain, when, on 4 November 1839, nearly 10,000 Chartist sympathisers, led by John Frost, marched on the town of Newport, Monmouthshire. The men, including many coal-miners, most with home-made arms, were intent on liberating fellow Chartists who were reported to have been taken prisoner in the town's Westgate Hotel. About 22 demonstrators were killed when troops opened fire on them. The leaders of the rebellion were convicted of high treason and were sentenced to a traitor's death. The sentence was later commuted to transportation for life ... Among the factors that precipitated the rising were the House of Commons' rejection of the first Chartist petition, the People's Charter of 1838 ( which called for universal suffrage, secret ballot, a salary for MPs, giving those who did not own property the right to vote, etc. ) on 12 July 1839, and the conviction of the Chartist Henry Vincent for unlawful assembly and conspiracy on 2 August ...

... Some kind of rising had been in preparation for a few months and the march had been gathering momentum over the course of the whole weekend, as John Frost and his associates led the protesters down from the industrialised valley towns to the north of Newport. Some of the miners who joined the march had armed themselves with home-made pikes, bludgeons and firearms. ... The march was headed by Frost leading a column into Newport from the west, Zephaniah Williams leading a column from Blackwood to the northwest and William Jones leading a column from Pontypool to the north ... It is estimated that nearly 10,000 Chartist sympathisers marched on the town. The Chartists were convinced that some of their fellows had been imprisoned at the Westgate Hotel. Filing quickly down the steep Stow Hill, the Chartists arrived at the small square in front of the hotel at about 9.30 am. The flash point came when the crowd demanded the release of the imprisoned Chartists. A brief, violent and bloody battle ensued. Shots were fired by both sides, contemporary accounts indicating that the Chartists attacked first. But the soldiers defending the hotel despite being greatly outnumbered by the large and very angry crowd, had vastly superior firepower, training and discipline, all of which soon broke the crowd ...

... In the aftermath 200 or more Chartists were arrested for being involved and twenty-one were charged with high treason. All three main leaders of the march, John Frost, Zephaniah Williams, and William Jones, were found guilty on the charge of high treason and were sentenced at the Shire Hall in Monmouth to be hanged, drawn and quartered. They were to be the last people to be sentenced to this punishment in England and Wales ... After this Chartism turned to a process of internal renewal and more systematic organisation, but the transported and imprisoned Newport Chartists were regarded as heroes and martyrs amongst workers ... Meanwhile the Establishment and middle classes became convinced that the rising meant all Chartists were dangerously violent. Newport Mayor Thomas Phillips was proclaimed a national hero for his part in crushing the rising and was knighted by Queen Victoria barely six weeks later. ...Frost himself was eventually given an unconditional pardon in 1856 and allowed to return to Britain, receiving a triumphant welcome in Newport ... But he never lived in Newport again, settling instead in Stapleton near Bristol, where he continued to publish articles advocating reform until his death, aged 93, in 1877.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treachery_of_the_Blue_Books

The People's Charter was translated into Welsh in 1838. Areas of Monmouthshire at this time were predominantly Welsh-speaking, as economic migration to this point had largely been from west Wales. Although Chartism was very much a British political movement, the Welsh language was a factor in allowing Chartists to organise in relative secrecy in Wales. This in turn increased the suspicion of the authorities, who were almost exclusively English-speaking ... [ THE NEWPORT RISING WAS VARIOUSLY USED TO DENOUNCE ASPECTS OF THE WELSH NATION - WELSH LANGUAGE, WELSH RELIGION, WELSH POLITICS, WELSH CULTURE - BY THE DEMOCRATS IN WESTMINSTER ] ... The Treachery of the Blue Books or Treason of the Blue Books ( Welsh: Brad y Llyfrau Gleision ) was the publication in 1847 of the three-volume Reports of the commissioners of enquiry into the state of education in Wales, which caused uproar in Wales for disparaging the Welsh; being particularly scathing in its view of the Welsh language, nonconformity and the immorality of the Welsh people in general. The term Brad y Llyfrau Gleision was coined by the author Robert Jones Derfel in response to the Reports' publication ...

... The report was detailed. It concluded that schools in Wales were extremely inadequate, often with teachers speaking only English and using only English textbooks in areas where the children spoke only Welsh, and that Welsh-speakers had to rely on the Nonconformist Sunday Schools to acquire literacy. But it also concluded that the Welsh were ignorant, lazy and immoral, and that among the causes of this were the use of the Welsh language and nonconformity. This resulted in a furious reaction in Wales, led by the bard Robert Jones Derfel. Derfel's book-length response, Brad y Llyfrau Gleision, was published in 1854 by I. Clarke in Ruthin; it had no immediate political consequences, but was instrumental in the birth of the modern Welsh self-government movement. A measure of the anger aroused by the report in Wales is the subtitle Brad y Llyfrau Gleision. It is a reference to the infamous "Treachery of the Long Knives" when, according to Nennius and Geoffrey of Monmouth, the Saxons began their campaign of conquest against the native Britons ...

... The commissioners often simply reported verbatim the prejudiced opinions of landowners and local Anglican clergy. The more bilious editorial attacks on Welsh culture mostly emanated from Commissioner Lingen. The Books remain an invaluable, although slanted, source of information on mid-19th century Welsh society ... Saunders Lewis, in Tynged yr Iaith, maintained that the Blue Books were for Welsh history " the most important nineteenth-century historical documents we possess," Such a judgement also reflects the fact that the publication of the reports, and the controversy that followed, was the catalyst for a much greater level of nonconformist involvement in the politics of Wales than hitherto ... Over time these criticisms evolved into an organised political action, which culminated at the General Election of 1868 ... Simon Brooks argued that the Blue Books were a fundamentally liberal project in that the authors were sincerely concerned with the material wellbeing of the Welsh, as individuals. The argument that the Blue Books put forward, suggests Brooks, was that embracing the English language would allow the Welsh to achieve their potential and take full part in British civic society ...

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Subject: I have just been spotting Gethin and Sian and Cor Cochion Caerdydd and others on - http://www.redwatch.co.uk/wales/swanreds.html

I have just been spotting Gethin and Sian and Cor Cochion Caerdydd and others on - http://www.redwatch.co.uk/wales/swanreds.html

Perhaps we should invite Redwatch to Cilmeri as well - the more the merrier - on the basis that there is no such thing as bad publicity ?

But would Redwatch be able to cope with the idea of The Right in Wales meeting with and campaigning together with The Left in Wales ?

I am still hammering away at this thread - entertaining - but no enthusiasm so far for slinging together some kind of " Union Jack'd Coffin " gag.

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1549

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence

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I am sure that any of the following might be extremely gratified by my " The Union Jack'd Coffin " gag ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_far-right_groups_since_1945

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-left_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom

... perhaps The Anarchists in Wales might be persuaded to go help me stage " The Chartist Funeral in Wales " ?

https://southwalesanarchists.wordpress.com/ - oooh ! - look ! - linked to The Gethin in The Red Remembrencer !

http://redremembrancer.blogspot.com/


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BoKjQfMihs - Wittgenstein: A Wonderful Life (1989)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractatus_Logico-Philosophicus

Wittgenstein is increasingly important in Post-Modernist Republicanism because he argued that the most important things can not be discussed : in other words The Public Discourse in Spiritualities ( = Intro-version : Liberalism ) and Religions ( = Intra-version : Anarchism ) and Politics ( = Extro-version : Communism ) and Economics ( = Extra-version : Conservativism ) and Sciences ( = Super-Version : Socialism ) and Cultures ( = Sub-version : Fascism ) - in other words The Rule of Law - and therefore The Republic in The World - has a determined limit ... Beyond which there is no possibility of The Argument in The Republic - for there is no possibility of debating those closed ideologies in which The People in Delusion only explain themselves to themselves and construct their private ideologies in pursuit of their private interests and therefore when they encounter The People in The Public Discourse which constructs The Meta-Ideology in pursuit of The Public Interest they react with hostility and rage, anger and hatred, fear and loathing - paranoia - and either withdraw into their private ideologies about The People in The World or instead set out to impose their ideologies upon The People in The World without entering into The Public Discourse other than by The Left Hand Path of The Sinister Dialectic : Lies, Hatred, Slavery, War and The Death of The People ... Whereas The Communists, Socialists, Anarchists, Liberalists, Fascists and Conservativists - in other words all those who subscribe to open ideologies and therefore can engage with The Public Discourse and collaborate to describe The Public Interest - are pursuing The Right Hand Path of The Dexterous Dialectic : Truth, Love, Liberty, Peace and The Life of The People ... In other words The Boundary in The Public Discourse is defined by The Public Sphere in Y Repwblic : The Conversations with Wales' Republicans : Poblachiaethwyr - Repwbligwyr - Gweriniaethwyr ... If an ideology can not meet Wittgenstein's test in The Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus then it is a closed ideology which is pursuing a private interest and it can not be used in The Public Discourse because it is not pursuing The Public Interest - De Res Publica ... The Republic in Wales and The World is defined by these open ideologies - therefore by definition The Republicanism in Wales is The Open Conspiracy - The Public Discourse which can not be conducted in secrecy - and The Democracy in Wales is The Closed Conspiracy - A Private Discourse which is conducted in secrecy ... The lack of scrutiny which creates The Problems in Wales is created by a secrecy which is both imposed by The Official Secrets Act but also long established by custom in The United Kingdom which was historically constructed to serve a private interest and is therefore by definition a non-political system of non-government against which The Republicans in Wales historically contended to serve The Public Interest by creating The Political System of Government : The Rule of Law is necessary for The Public Discourse !!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Open_Conspiracy

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Y REPWBLIC YNG NGHYMRU - THE REPUBLIC IN WALES - Y REPWBLIC.ORG

THE 1838 CHARTER - IS NOT PAST BUSINESS AND OUR FUTURE BUSINESS IS - THE 2018 CHARTER !


( 0 ) ANNUAL ELECTIONS IN BOTH LOCAL AND NATIONAL CONSTITUENCIES

The Sixth Point of The 1838 Charter extended : its original purpose was to prevent corrupt elections and to swiftly remove any unsatisfactory representatives - but this also ensures that representatives are constantly attending to The People in Wales who are electing them instead of neglecting them until they are once more electing their representatives. Annual Elections will ensure that The People in Wales continually scrutinise their representatives.

( 1 ) PUBLIC FUNDING IN ELECTIONS FOR REGISTERED POLITICAL PARTIES

The European Referendum has exposed the already known vulnerability of The United Kingdom as a non-political system to individual private interests which can deploy large sums of money through covert methods to influence both local and national government policies and legislation. It is not in The Public Interest to allow this to continue because The Public Good lies in The Public Discourse being conducted with public arguments not private finances.

( 2 ) CANDIDATES IN ELECTIONS TO POSSES QUALIFICATIONS FOR OFFICE

The Defect in Democracy : The Candidates in The Election are endorsed not qualified. The Democrats in Wales and Westminster believe that the basis of politics is voting instead of facts and arguments - and even without the talent of persuading The People in Wales to elect them many of our representatives are elected without possessing any ability to discharge their duties as members of The County Council, The National Assembly or The Parliament.

( 3 ) CIVIC EDUCATION SO THAT THE CITIZENS ARE QUALIFIED AS VOTERS

The People in Wales are not to be treated as The Property in The State to be educated for the purposes of those who succeed in representing their private interests as The Public Interest in Education which is to create The Citizens in Wales i.e. to provide the means to be autonomous persons who contribute to The Public Interest by balancing their private rights against their public duties which include their contributions to The Public Discourse.

( 4 ) AN INDEPENDENT COURT TO DRAUGHT AND DETERMINE LEGISLATION

The Republicans in Wales predicted that The Supreme Court in London would strike down bad laws made by The Democrats in The National Assembly in Wales and this is happening. The creation of The Laws in Wales creates a separate jurisdiction yet The Devolution in Wales has not created The Court in Wales to determine The Laws in Wales and The Bills and Acts are not being draughted by a judiciary independent from The Government in Wales.

( 5 ) A WRITTEN CONSTITUTION WHICH DETERMINES INALIENABLE RIGHTS

The United Kingdom is a non-political system and therefore refuses to codify its constitutional laws which create subjects not citizens : The People in Wales are de facto The Property in The State and The Laws in England, Scotland and Ireland which created The United Kingdom, The Crown and The Parliament make The National Assembly in Wales and The Human Rights Act not rights but privileges which they can withdraw without notice.

( 6 ) THE SOVEREIGNTY IN WALES TO BE LOCATED IN THE LAWS IN WALES

The Idea of The Sovereignty in The State can only be discovered in The Laws which create The State and so it can easily be demonstrated that The Ideas of The Sovereignty - of The People - of The Crown - of The Parliament - of The God - are mutually exclusive claims for the possession of illegitimate and unaccountable powers over The State which contradict The Rule of Law : it is therefore in The Public Interest to locate The Sovereignty in The Law.

THE 2018 CHARTER - IS THE BUSINESS OF REPUBLICANS IN WALES UNTIL - THE 2198 CHARTER !

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts The Moral Right - not to sue for copyright !

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G#D - I ENJOYED THAT ... BUT WHY ARE YOU GIVING A NON-THEIST ALL OF THESE HOPELESS TASKS TO DO ?

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From: David
Sent: 28 November 2018 03:10
Subject: http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1549 - this began as a political entertainment for Cilmeri - but is now turning into a manifesto ?

Send this to your personal email - write to that Conservative X.X. who wanted a description - then forward it to Repwblic and distribute it to all.

Actually - it being nearly 03.00 am 28-11-18 - forward this to those who are obviously taking this " recruiting drive " for Cilmeri to be ridiculous.

I think that this is turning out to be an attempt to provide everybody who wants to get " Civ " back on its feet and running again with a vision ?

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1549 - this began as a political entertainment for Cilmeri - but is now turning into a manifesto ?

Y REPWBLIC YNG NGHYMRU - THE REPUBLIC IN WALES - Y REPWBLIC.ORG

THE 1838 CHARTER - IS NOT PAST BUSINESS AND OUR FUTURE BUSINESS IS - THE 2018 CHARTER !

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=6932#6932

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To:
Subject: FW: http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1549 - this began as a political entertainment for Cilmeri - but is now turning into a manifesto ?

Dear Journalists in Media Wales,

here is some further work on that thread - which is skimming all over the place - which is more akin to how I used to write my press releases.

I take it that The Western Mail's policy continues to be to scorn The Republicans in Wales on the basis of some misconceived pre-conception.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/plaid-cymru-leader-leanne-wood-2024296 - I still think that this is libelling us - every day !

Your lawyers may think that the libel laws have remained the same since the advent of the internet but every click on that page republishes it.

Yet instead of thinking about that in terms of your legal liabilities why not just be courteous - discuss this defamation and sort something out ?

Come to Cilmeri - you will meet The People in Wales - from all over Wales - and cull stories of all sorts about what is going on all over Wales.

I will even write your reporter a personal proem in gratitude if you are prepared to make a fair account of The Patriots in Protest in Cilmeri ...

Yours Sincerely,

David B Lawrence = Dai Saw = dai repwblic

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From: David <idryce@hotmail.com>
Sent: 28 November 2018 03:47
To:
Subject: FW: http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1549 - this began as a political entertainment for Cilmeri - but is now turning into a manifesto ?

Dear [ AN ANTI-MONARCHIST KIND OF " REPUBLICAN " : AN ACTIVIST WITHIN https://www.republic.org.uk/ ]

I do not even know if you are still around - I occasionally drive past your house - I wondered if you might be interested in this " manifesto " - ?

Otherwise, fare well - and thank you for being so thoughtful as to invite me to join you on that BBC Wales panel down in The Welsh Assembly.

David B Lawence - oh ! - I started to write a lot of " proems " under my pen name " Dai Saw " and I also started signing pieces " dai repwblic "

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Sent: 28 November 2018 04:12
To: [ AN ELECTED CONSERVATIVE AND UNIONIST PARTY POLITICIAN ]
Subject: FW: http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1549 - this began as a political entertainment for Cilmeri - but is now turning into a manifesto ?

Dear

I was scratching my head trying to remember your name and from which email I had written to you - we discussed alternative political systems ?

I went to the internet to locate your face in order to confirm your name and email address and I found emails within this account sent to you.

I found it shocking to discover that we were born only a matter of months apart - we have had rather different lives and so we differ politically.

However - I said I would try to explain my views to you on some matter to do with alternative methods of doing politics - so you might like this.

This to my way of thinking is a discussion piece rather than a full blown manifesto - but it contains several things which are thought provoking.

Such as where the limit of The Public Discourse ought to be set i.e. the things which politics simply can not address yet politicians legislate for.

I hope that you enjoy it - I am now going to sleep on it and re-consider my sending it out to all AMs etc - commiserations to you all over Brexit.

Just zip down to the last bit of the coloured bit for the " manifesto " - although I do recommend the bit above it " about Wittgenstein " - no, me.

Yours Sincerely,

David B Lawrence = Dai Saw = dai repwblic
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None of these posts are being planned very well - I was going to pair Wittgenstein with Russell to illustrate a link between Austria and Wales - " Wales and The World - Cymru a'r Byd " etc - and this morning I was thinking of delving into The Dark Side by comparing Schopenhaur with Neitzche and considering how Kant's and Hegel's Republicanisms were trashed by them and the slide towards The Nazis in Germany began ... and all of that shit ... but of course you all think that I am a Nazi too because somebody told you so or misquoted me or took a photo of me trying to dissuade that fool who preaches that " Republicanism is National Socialism " with a menacing hint of violence about towards me ... >sigh< ... I would like persuade them that there is something better - Real Republicanism - and they might begin to love themselves and not hate Wales and The World ... some hope ... any how : what I have continually said is that these kinds of views are not going to go away - and these people certainly will not change their minds if they can not participate in The Public Discourse so it is better to call a spade a spade - accept that Fascism exists and that in fact it has some merits - and provided that those who believe in these kinds of ideologies are law-abiding and are willing to engage in politics instead of Democracy - i.e. willing to publicly present their facts and arguments and engage in The Public Discourse and address the facts and arguments of other believers who are radically different from them - then they should be entitled to hold whatever beliefs they wish to - for as long as they wish to - and when they stop wishing to we ought to pass over their changes of belief and not rub their faces in their own shit but gather round and gently wipe their faces clean of that shit and be sociable and friendly towards them and help them along their ways to being re-integrated into The Public Discourse and becoming part of society again ... easy - eh ? ... For example : what would we do about this Gavin Miles McInnes ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_McInnes

Gavin Miles McInnes (/məˈkɪnɪs/; born 17 July 1970) is a Canadian writer, actor, and comedian. He is the co-founder of Vice Media and Vice Magazine and host of Get Off My Lawn on Conservative Review. He is a contributor to Taki's Magazine and a former contributor to The Rebel Media, and was a frequent guest on television programs on Fox News and The Blaze. ... McInnes was a leading figure in the hipster subculture while at Vice, being labelled as the "godfather" of hipsterdom. After leaving the company in 2008, he became increasingly known for his far-right-wing political views.[5] He is the founder of the Proud Boys, a chauvinist men's group considered an extremist organisation by the FBI and the Southern Poverty Law Center ... McInnes was born in Hitchin in Hertfordshire, England, to Scottish parents, James and Loraine McInnes. His family migrated to Canada when McInnes was four. He attended Ottawa's Earl of March Secondary School. As a teen, McInnes played in the Ottawa punk band Anal Chinook. As an adult, McInnes emigrated to the United States from Canada.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/16/nyregion/proud-boys-gavin-mcinnes.html

Proud Boys Founder: How He Went From Brooklyn Hipster to Far-Right Provocateur - By Alan Feuer - Oct. 16, 2018 - New York Times

For an hour or so, he railed about socialism and political correctness to an audience of New York establishment Republicans. As he often does, he took ugly swipes at Ivy Leaguers, left-wing snobs and lesbians with “geriatric crew cuts.” ... Then, when his speech was over, Gavin McInnes stepped outside of the Metropolitan Republican Club, protected by the police. Just before a brawl broke out between his allies and a crowd of shouting protesters, he waved a plastic sword in the air, slipped into a car and sped away. ... There was an uproar this weekend when anti-fascist demonstrators clashed with members of the far-right group Proud Boys, reprising on the streets of New York City the kind of violent rumbles that occurred across the country last year in places like New Orleans and Berkeley, Calif. ... But at the center of the fray on Friday night was Mr. McInnes, the founder of the Proud Boys and a former Brooklyn hipster turned far-right provocateur. ... With his egghead glasses, pocket-protector and heavy-drinking, angry-nerd aesthetic, Mr. McInnes has in recent years set himself apart from the current crop of professionally outraged right-wing pundits, not only for being able to spout aggressive rhetoric, but also for being willing to get physical at times ...

... Well I was around as a teenager in the 1970s when there was quite a bit of racist aggro on the go because of far right groups - indeed just any group in The Right incited racism in the most casual manner - and I think that I can recognise the type of person described above : The Middle Class Schoolboy who goes down town - probably with some expensive flick-knife to flash around - and hangs out with The Rough Kids who wander the streets trying get somebody adult to go into an off-licence for them to buy a pack of Marlboro and some White Lightning to share ... The Schoolboy is very nice to The Kids who do not want to go home because their dads will be drunk and their mums on anti-depressants and they get no Love or Respect - yet The Schoolboy is nice and appears to be kind and gives them a sense of being valued and - they fall in love with him and hang on his every word - and they are not articulate and plausible ideas just flow out of his educated mouth as he encourages them - oh so nicely - to go and beat up a Rasta - you know - if they really loved him - and that I suspect this Gavin McInnes is like : look at the term " Rude Boys " - The Schoolboy is posing as a tough but he has The Kids do the fighting for him - they will end up in jail whilst The Police in New York escort The Schoolboy home to his mummy and daddy ... This man is not a politico : he is a psycho - and there were precedents ... who created that receptivity to Hitler ...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb-M29FF1bg - Will Durant---The Philosophy of Schopenhauer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Schopenhauer

Arthur Schopenhauer (/ˈʃoʊpənhaʊ.ər/ SHOH-pən-how-ər; German: [ˈʔaɐ̯tʊɐ̯ ˈʃoːpm̩ˌhaʊ̯ɐ]; 22 February 1788 – 21 September 1860 ) was a German philosopher. He is best known for his 1818 work The World as Will and Representation ( expanded in 1844,) wherein he characterizes the phenomenal world as the product of a blind and insatiable metaphysical will. Proceeding from the transcendental idealism of Immanuel Kant, Schopenhauer developed an atheistic metaphysical and ethical system that has been described as an exemplary manifestation of philosophical pessimism, rejecting the contemporaneous post-Kantian philosophies of German idealism. Schopenhauer was among the first thinkers in Western philosophy to share and affirm significant tenets of Eastern philosophy ( e.g., asceticism, the world-as-appearance,) having initially arrived at similar conclusions as the result of his own philosophical work ...

... Schopenhauer was born on 22 February 1788, in the city of Danzig ( then part of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth; present day Gdańsk, Poland ) on Heiligegeistgasse ( known in the present day as Św. Ducha 47,) the son of Johanna Schopenhauer ( née Trosiener ) and Heinrich Floris Schopenhauer, both descendants of wealthy German-Dutch patrician families. Both of them weren't very religious, supported the French Revolution, were republican, cosmopolitan and Anglophile. When Danzig became part of Prussia in 1793, Heinrich moved to Hamburg - a free city with republican constitution, protected by Britain and Holland against Prussian aggression - although his firm continued trading in Danzig ... He [ Schopenhauer ] spent twelve weeks of the tour attending a school in Wimbledon where he was very unhappy and appalled by very strict but intellectually shallow Anglican religiosity which he would continue to sharply criticize later in life despite his general Anglophilia ... [ OK : IT GOES ON AND ON ABOUT HIS SCREWED UP FAMILY AND HIS GLOOMY CHARACTER ] ...

... In 1848 Schopenhauer witnessed violent upheaval in Frankfurt after General Hans Adolf Erdmann von Auerswald and Prince Felix Lichnowsky were murdered. He became worried for his own safety and property. Even earlier in life he had such worries and kept a sword and loaded pistols near his bed to defend himself from thieves. He gave a friendly welcome to Austrian soldiers who wanted to shoot revolutionaries from his window and as they were leaving he gave one of the officers his opera glasses to help him monitor rebels ... ... The essays that proved most popular were the ones that actually didn’t contain the basic philosophical ideas of his system. Many academic philosophers considered him a great stylist and cultural critic but didn’t take his philosophy seriously. His early critics liked to point out similarities of his ideas to those Fichte and Schelling, or claim that there are numerous contradictions in his philosophy. Both criticisms enraged Schopenhauer. However, he was becoming less interested in intellectual fights, but encouraged his disciples to do so ...

... [ OK : ENOUGH - THIS IS NOT CONVEYING HIS ATTITUDES TO WOMEN ETC - TRY THIS ? ] ...

... Schopenhauer saw his philosophy as a continuation of that of Kant ... " The world is my representation." We do not draw empirical laws from nature, but prescribe them to it ... the senses furnish the raw material by which the intellect produces the world as representation ... the intellect, is a merely secondary phenomenon, differing completely from the will ... this will, far from being inseparable from, and even a mere result of, knowledge, differs radically and entirely from, and is quite independent of, knowledge ... For Schopenhauer, human desire was futile, illogical, directionless, and, by extension, so was all human action in the world ... the Will is a blind force that controls not only the actions of individual, intelligent agents, but ultimately all observable phenomena ... Friedrich Nietzsche was greatly influenced by this idea of Will, although he eventually rejected it ... What is relevant for ethics are individuals who can act against their own self-interest. If we take for example a man who suffers when he sees his fellow men living in poverty, and consequently uses a significant part of his income to support their needs instead his own pleasures ... Compassion is thus the basis of morality ... When we behold nature we see that it is a cruel battle for existence. Individual manifestations of the will can maintain themselves at only at the expense of others ...

[ OK - I LEAVE YOU TO READ THAT PAGE FOR YOURSELF AND DECIDE HOW PLAUSIBLE HE WAS ]

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I WENT OUT TO GET SOME MILK ETC AND FLOPPED DOWN ( STILL LIMPING ) AND - OH ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001b9l - The Moral Maze - The Morality of Friendship

It’s the time of the year to dust off the Christmas card list and perhaps delete one or two of the names on it. Who’s been naughty and who’s been nice ? Who should never have been on the list in the first place ? The Labour shadow chancellor John McDonnell has made the honest admission that he can’t be friends with his Tory colleagues, saying he can’t “ forgive them for what they’ve done ” to the country. And yet Tony Benn was friends with Enoch Powell. Tee-shirts with the slogan ‘ NEVER KISSED A TORY ’ have been popular this year, but so have those that read ‘ EMPATHY IS NOT ENDORSEMENT,’ When it comes to friendship, where should we draw the line ? Some believe it is morally corrupting to befriend, date or marry anyone with different values, beliefs and lifestyle to their own. For others, friendship trumps morality, and we should do everything in our power to remain friends with others, short of those who have committed an irredeemably evil act.
This goes beyond personal relationships. Many have voiced the concern that hatred is infecting public discourse, where ‘ opponents ’ who are ‘ wrong ’ become ‘ enemies ’ who are ‘evil.’ Is this the sign of a more morally-empowered society, or are we are losing the ability to debate and disagree ? Do we have a moral duty to befriend those who hold views and values we don’t share ?

Which is how I view The Politics of Love : Republicanism is based more upon friendship than ideology.

When I was a student I hung about with Boz who introduced me to " Synapse " - one of those Illoominarty Partéy groups in which we met both high and low Tories, knock-me-sideways Liberals and sophisticated Socialists who shared an evening with a a aaa-h-f-f-f-ew bottlisches of vinooo ... and bad poetry and a bit of drama ... Synapse breached the gap between Left and Right with sparks flying across it ... and produced a sort of souvenir magazine or rather a few pages stapled together recording our contributions and activities ... Boz told us this story - or rather it has now come to mind and I will of course get it all wrong ... The Nazis - presumably The SS - forced their way onto a train packed full of Poles and started to bully their way through it by pushing and shoving people around randomly demanding papers from those they imagined to be suspects ... Eventually they came to this poor Polish woman who did not understand German and was just rooted to the spot and staring at them without answering ... perhaps she was defying them or was just being empty headed ... One of them put a pistol to her head and demanded to know what she was thinking about - and she either blurted out or calmly remarked ... well I am not sure of the word but he took her to say " Neitzsche ! " and laughed and kissed her and went back to bullying the other Poles ... " Nicość ! " may be what she said - " Emptiness ! " - and when Boz told us this story she explained this as the woman replying " Nothing ! " - and I see that it also means " the state of being nothing or of not existing " ... Perhaps that is what Friedrich Nietzsche longed for - death ...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4i11923V04 - Will Durant--- The Philosophy of Nietzsche

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Nietzsche

Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (/ˈniːtʃə, -tʃi/; German: [ˈfʁiːdʁɪç ˈvɪlhɛlm ˈniːtʃə] (About this soundlisten) or [- ˈniːtsʃə]; 15 October 1844 – 25 August 1900) was a German philosopher, cultural critic, composer, poet, philologist, and a Latin and Greek scholar whose work has exerted a profound influence on Western philosophy and modern intellectual history. He began his career as a classical philologist before turning to philosophy. He became the youngest ever to hold the Chair of Classical Philology at the University of Basel in 1869 at the age of 24. Nietzsche resigned in 1879 due to health problems that plagued him most of his life; he completed much of his core writing in the following decade. In 1889 at age 44, he suffered a collapse and afterward, a complete loss of his mental faculties. He lived his remaining years in the care of his mother until her death in 1897 and then with his sister Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche. Nietzsche died in 1900. ... Nietzsche was explicitly opposed to antisemitism and nationalism, although his sister attempted to associate his work with fascism and Nazism ...

... Nietzsche's body of work touched a wide range of topics, including art, philology, history, religion, tragedy, culture and science. His early inspiration was drawn from figures such as Arthur Schopenhauer, Richard Wagner and Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. His writing spans philosophical polemics, poetry, cultural criticism and fiction while displaying a fondness for aphorism and irony. Prominent elements of his philosophy include his radical critique of truth in favor of perspectivism; his genealogical critique of religion and Christian morality and his related theory of master–slave morality; his aesthetic affirmation of existence in response to the "death of God" and the profound crisis of nihilism; his notion of the Apollonian and Dionysian; and his characterization of the human subject as the expression of competing wills, collectively understood as the will to power. He also developed influential concepts such as the Übermensch and the doctrine of eternal return. In his later work, he became increasingly preoccupied with the creative powers of the individual to overcome social, cultural and moral contexts in pursuit of new values and aesthetic health ...

... In 1865, Nietzsche thoroughly studied the works of Arthur Schopenhauer. He owed the awakening of his philosophical interest to reading Schopenhauer's The World as Will and Representation and later admitted that Schopenhauer was one of the few thinkers whom he respected, dedicating the essay " Schopenhauer as Educator " in the Untimely Meditations to him ... With the publication in 1878 of Human, All Too Human ( a book of aphorisms ranging from metaphysics to morality to religion to gender studies,) a new style of Nietzsche's work became clear, highly influenced by Afrikan Spir's Thought and Reality and reacting against the pessimistic philosophy of Wagner and Schopenhauer. ... After severing his philosophical ties with Schopenhauer ( who was long dead and never met Nietzsche ) and his social ties with Wagner, Nietzsche had few remaining friends. ... In 1886, Nietzsche broke with his publisher Ernst Schmeitzner, disgusted by his antisemitic opinions. Nietzsche saw his own writings as " completely buried and unexhumeable in this anti-Semitic dump " of Schmeitzner - associating the publisher with a movement that should be " utterly rejected with cold contempt by every sensible mind." He then printed Beyond Good and Evil at his own expense ...

... In 1893, Nietzsche's sister Elisabeth returned from Nueva Germania in Paraguay following the suicide of her husband. She read and studied Nietzsche's works and, piece by piece, took control of them and their publication. ... Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche compiled The Will to Power from Nietzsche's unpublished notebooks and published it posthumously. Because his sister arranged the book based on her own conflation of several of Nietzsche's early outlines and took great liberties with the material, the scholarly consensus has been that it does not reflect Nietzsche's intent ... Nietzsche stated, " Germany is a great nation only because its people have so much Polish blood in their veins ... I am proud of my Polish descent." ... Nietzsche's propagation of the Polish ancestry myth may have been part of his " campaign against Germany " ... Another concept important to an understanding of Nietzsche's thought is the Übermensch ... The Nazis tried to incorporate the concept into their ideology. After his death, Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche became the curator and editor of her brother's manuscripts. She reworked Nietzsche's unpublished writings to fit her own German nationalist ideology ... Through her published editions, Nietzsche's work became associated with fascism and Nazism ...

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https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2013/06/12/hitlers-philosophical-enablers/

Adolf Hitler is sometimes thought of as simply a thug, but he claimed that reading Fichte, Nietzsche, Kant, Hegel, Schopenhauer, Darwin, and Heidegger “provided the building materials and plans for the future . . . and a philosophy which became the granite foundation of all my later acts.” ... In an important new book, Hitler’s Philosophers, Yvonne Sherratt examines Hitler’s vulgarization of various modern philosophers and the distinguished academics who supported the Führer and National Socialism. ... To rationalize his warped Weltanschauung (“worldview”) Hitler cherry-picked from the writings of his philosophical heroes. His one-time friend, Ernst Hanfstaengl, said Hitler “was not so much a distiller as a bartender of genius. He took all the ingredients the German [tradition] offered him and mixed them through his private alchemy into a cocktail they wanted to drink.” ... From Nietzsche, Hitler learned to hate democracy because it “encouraged mediocrity.” He admired Nietzsche’s warrior spirit and call for violence to achieve political ends: “Brutality is respectful. . . . Terrorism is absolutely indispensable in every case of the founding of a new power.” ... He adopted Nietzsche’s idea that “a culture [must] encourage not equality but greatness” and “create conditions that require stronger men.” Hitler sought to breed Aryan supermen who would rule the world. ...

... As for Schopenhauer, Hitler boasted “ I carried Schopenhauer’s works with me throughout the First World War. From him I learned a great deal,” apparently that he “ glorified will over reason.” ... Hitler pressed all these philosophical bits and pieces into the service of Social Darwinism. He insisted that only the fit had the right to survive: “ The great masses are only a part of nature. . . .What they want is the victory of the stronger and the annihilation or the unconditional surrender of the weaker.” The so-called rules of humanity do not apply to man : “ [he] lives or is able to preserve himself above the animal world, but sadly by means of the most brutal struggle.” “ Only force rules. Force is the first law.” Only “ the stronger man is right.” ... After Hitler became German Chancellor, a number of respected scholars in philosophy, law, and science embraced him. They “ eagerly collaborated to lend the Nazi regime a cloak of respectability.” ... After the philosopher-Führer committed suicide in 1945, the philosopher-collaborators ran for cover. With the aid of university colleagues, they covered up their activities and ignored the past: “ A veil of silence descended across the university halls.” ...

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So ... in a sense poor old Uncle Adolf used to do what I have just done ... am I another schoolboy ? ... I hope not !

... mmm ... and then of course there was The British Schoolboy ... the famous peace activist ... sophisticated eh ?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14aHWMmCHYw - Oswald Mosley in London, 1939

https://vimeo.com/266699470 - Oswald Mosley interview from ‘Vote for Nigel Barton’ - his Brexit speech ?

https://www.britishpathe.com/video/crowd-wrecks-mosley-rally - Crowd Wrecks Mosley Rally 1962 - 1962 !!!

https://www.britishpathe.com/video/mosley-tries-again - Mosley Tries Again 1962 - and then after Brexit - ?

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs8lpu - Oswald Mosley interview with David Frost ( 15th Nov 1967 )

[ That video stopped with " an unexpected error " in the middle of Mosley's argument over for speech - glad ... ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNhF28fzN9I - Sir Oswald Mosley Interview - Thames Television - 1975

And in watching this last one I am reflecting upon the importance of Meta-Ideology in trying to understand how and why Oswald Mosley reasoned this way ... was he just a bare faced liar - or deluded - or ... you see I am still under the impression - I have not looked at this material for several years - that he is speaking from a closed ideology in which everything seems to be reasonable for him but in which he ignores or evades anything presented to him which contradicts or questions or even invites him to further explain his beliefs : his world view in hermetically sealed in a way that so many other people's world views are without any consequences for other people ... but he enjoyed a remarkable following because he had not only been in a well known Member of Parliament but that he had this aristocratic assurance that his role in life was to lead and command others - The British Class System in The Twentieth Century was finally beginning to decline at the time of this Thames Television interview in 1975 yet had barely been shaken yet at the time of the David Frost interview in 1967 - Edward Heath and Margaret Thatcher were yet to come ... but Tony Benn and Michael Foot were leaders in The Left who also came from this stable and assumed their right to rule ...

Looking for videos in which their patrician attitudes are evidenced - there are lots - but look at this ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuZrzwm6CJs - Common Market Debate - Heath and Foot - People and Politics Part 1

Gosh - do you remember when The United Kingdom had proper politicians using facts and arguments not votes ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXmlcGWdNs8 - Mr Lloyd George Speaks To The Nation (1931)

[ I WAS TRYING TO FIND SPEECHES BY ALL P.M.s SINCE WW1 TO COMPARE THEM - BUT I NEED TO SLEEP ]

[ THE POINT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE IS THAT THE DEMOCRATS IN WALES AND THE WORLD WILL BOTH CLAIM AND DENY ALMOST ANY POPULAR POLITICAL IDEOLOGY IN ORDER TO GET THEMSELVES ELECTED AND BEING A FASCIST WAS WILDLY POPULAR IN THE 1930s AND CONSIDERED TO BE PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE - HOWEVER FASCISM IS NOT ANTI-SEMITISM : IT IS A COHERENT POLITICAL IDEOLOGY WHICH HAS PERSUASIVE POWER - ITS ORIGINS ARE IN CORPORATISM WHICH WAS A POPULAR POLITICAL IDEOLOGY IN THE 19C BECAUSE IT WAS OFFICIALLY ENDORSED BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ... AND THAT IS WHERE THE ANTI-SEMITISM IN IT CAME FROM ... ZIONISM WAS A FORM OF CORPORATISM WHICH WAS ENDORSED BY JEWISH RELIGIOUS AUTHORITY ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0a9A8J7eb8 - Mosley (1998) - Part 1 - tv drama : note the comments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Mosley

Sir Oswald Ernald Mosley, 6th Baronet of Ancoats ( 16 November 1896 – 3 December 1980 ) was a British politician who rose to fame in the 1920s as a Member of Parliament and later in the 1930s became leader of the British Union of Fascists ( BUF ) ... After military service during the First World War, Mosley was one of the youngest Members of Parliament, representing Harrow from 1918 to 1924, first as a Conservative, then an independent, before joining the Labour Party. He returned to Parliament as the MP for Smethwick at a by-election in 1926, having stood as a Labour candidate, and served as Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster in the Labour Government of 1929–31. He was considered a potential Labour Prime Minister, but resigned due to discord with the Government's unemployment policies. He then founded the New Party. He lost his Smethwick seat at the 1931 general election. *The New Party became the British Union of Fascists ( BUF ) in 1932. ... Mosley was imprisoned in May 1940 and the BUF was banned. He was released in 1943, and, politically disgraced by his association with fascism, he moved abroad in 1951, spending the majority of the remainder of his life in Paris. He stood for Parliament twice in the postwar era, achieving very little support. [ *NOTE THE PROEM ABOVE ]

[ PERHAPS I SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPLICIT ABOUT MY POSITION : THE MODEL IN THE IDEO-RATIONAL ANALYSIS FEATURES A BELL SHAPED DISTRIBUTION CURVE SWEPT OUT ACROSS THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM IN WHICH EACH POLITICAL IDEOLOGY IS ASSIGNED A SECTOR IN ORDER TO ACCOUNT FOR THE DISTRIBUTIONS OF WHERE THE PEOPLE IN POLITICS ARE - SOME OF THEM ARE OBVIOUSLY " FASCIST " - AND WHEN A SOCIETY IS DISTRESSED AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE CONCERNED ONLY WITH VOTES THEY NEGLECT THOSE SWEPT INTO THE MARGINS WHERE THEY ARE PREY FOR THOSE NOT INTERESTED IN FACTS AND ARGUMENTS BUT IN POWER AND THAT IS WHERE BULLETS REPLACE BALLOTS - DEMOCRATS DRIVE THE POOR INTO THE ARMS OF POLITICAL EXTREMISTS WHO ARE NOT REALLY " FASCISTS " BECAUSE THOSE WHO USE VIOLENCE DO NOT USE IDEOLOGY - I OBSERVE AND AM ACCOUNTING FOR BUT I DO NOT ENDORSE FASCISM ]
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I rarely look around at what other people are doing : Gethin churns out picture blogs with slogans and ...

http://gethingruffydd.blogspot.com/2016/11/a-welsh-republican-satirical-poem-for.html

... huh - my poem - not credited to me ... does he not understand the concept of The Moral Right of the author ?

Gethin used to enthuse about my take on things but then got bored I suppose ... I admire Sian and Gethin but.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP1QHzkTgG4 - an explanation of The Ivy - Sian Ifan's youtube channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YrgWfDzxdk - Cofio Tryweryn Rally 1963 - 2013 ... " The Black Faction "

I think that it was that year - because of the fiftieth anniversary - that I got my finger out and was with them for the march in Bala but I do not know the area that well so when they said that there was a further rally " at the ( monument / memorial ) by the reservoir " I took them to mean the one that I knew from visiting Tryweryn over twenty years before when I was working for MAFF's Farm Buildings Group - so I was over by there thinking " OK ... So - oh ? - Who was that so and so passing by in that car ? " ... By the time that I had figured out that there must be some other ( monument / memorial ) to find and arrived to find them returning to that car park I had missed all of these fireworks ... and I am kind of glad about that given that I have now seen what they were doing ... As I remember that winter trip I was delayed to begin with and then in reading the map - which you just can not do whilst driving on winding roads - and anticipating one two third turning on the right and - hell ... How do you summon Y Fried Corpses Cymreig when you need them ? ...

... The tarmac ran out and I was going too fast on a narrow forestry road but expertly slowed to a safe pace until there was a fork within it which I could do a three point turn ... it was a beautifully exercised manouvre - but required a five point turn because it was so tight and ... I just felt the front wheels come to rest in the shallow channel at the edge of the road bed ... no matter - gently ... gently ... gently swear as the the front wheels slithered round and round ... ridiculous ... it was about four inches deep but full of ( leaves ? ) and there was absolutely no grip ... Ever had to find your way through the pitch dark night towards that lonely light to beg a complete stranger for a pull from his tractor ? ... Thank god this was in North Wales not South Wales ... sure the latter would be willing to help but by the time we got back to it in South Wales it would not have had any front wheels or rear wheels but would be parked neatly out of the way of other vehicles on four breeze blocks ... of course by then the wheels would already be in North Wales ...

... I liked to sleep in cars once : I kept a sleeping bag in the boot and kipped on the passenger seat laid back on some remote road away from the noise of South Wales which is incessant all along the M4 corridor for miles around it ... It is not because I like discomfort or do not like a crisp clean bed but I do like to wake up after hearing nothing but wind and sheep in my sleep ... I got to Bala too late to find a meal and had a pint and slept in some lousy sodium lit car park ... or rather did not ... and there was nothing warm to eat before we gathered together to march as a fairly small group around bewildered Bala ... er ... it was Bala was it not ? ... Hence with the march over I was more interested in finding something to eat and having got some directions to where we were going next grabbed some pasties I think and in not being in the mood to be lectured or questioned whilst I was dead beat due to loss of sleep I went ahead to the ( monument / memorial ) that I knew to grab a doze ... but what was my monument and which was their memorial ? ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQL3bxkrQ0Y - TRYWERYN MEMORIAL CHAPEL - " their memorial "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capel_Celyn

One of the farmsteads covered was Hafod Fadog, a Quaker meeting place. It is recorded on a bronze plaque in a lay-by near to the dam - " Under these waters and near this stone stood Hafod Fadog, a farmstead where in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries Quakers met for worship. On the hillside above the house was a space encircled by a low stone wall where larger meetings were held, and beyond the house was a small burial ground. From this valley came many of the early Quakers who emigrated to Pennsylvania, driven from their homes by persecution to seek freedom of worship in the New World." - " our monument "

In 1960, a private bill sponsored by Liverpool City Council was brought before Parliament to develop a water reservoir in the Tryweryn Valley. The development would include the flooding of Capel Celyn. By obtaining authority via an Act of Parliament, Liverpool City Council would not require planning consent from the relevant Welsh local authorities and would also avoid a planning enquiry at Welsh level at which arguments against the proposal could be expressed. This, together with the fact that the village was one of the last Welsh-only speaking communities, ensured that the proposals became deeply controversial. Thirty-five out of thirty-six Welsh Members of Parliament ( MPs ) opposed the bill ( the other did not vote,) but in 1962 it was passed. The members of the community waged an eight-year effort, ultimately unsuccessful, to prevent the destruction of their homes ... The building of the reservoir was instrumental in an increase in support for the Welsh nationalist party, Plaid Cymru, during the late 1950s. ...

... Almost unanimous Welsh political opposition had failed to stop approval of the scheme, a fact that seemed to underline Plaid Cymru's argument that the Welsh national community was powerless. At the subsequent General Election the party's support increased from 3.1% to 5.2% ... Of perhaps greater significance, however, was the impetus the episode gave to Welsh devolution. The Council of Wales recommended the creation of a Welsh Office and Secretary of State for Wales early in 1957, a time when the governance of Wales on a national level was so demonstrably lacking in many people's eyes. By 1964 the Wilson Government gave effect to these proposals ... Cofiwch Dryweryn ( " Remember Tryweryn " ) is a motto referring to the drowning of Capel Celyn in 1965. It urges Welsh speakers to remember the destruction of a Welsh-speaking community and to safeguard the language. The most famous instance of this motto is a graffito on the wall of a ruined stone cottage by the A487 at Llanrhystud, outside Aberystwyth which has come to be regarded as a "national landmark". Meic Stephens claims to be the first to paint the wall in the 1960s, with the slogan Cofiwch Tryweryn (sic, without the initial soft mutation and therefore grammatically incorrect). Since then, a number of people have repainted the wall, and the word Tryweryn has been changed to Dryweryn ...

http://balchder-cymru.blogspot.com/2013/09/cofiwch-dryweryn.html

... Oh - I preferred the original ...

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21.00 PM ... BEGUN 04.00 AM ? ... THE SLEEPLESS KNIGHT OUGHT NOT TO HAVE BEEN DRIVING ...

Oooh - look : Roger Scrotum not talking bollocks - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001ccq

A Point of View - The witch-hunt culture

Roger Scruton argues that political correctness, far from being the cure to our conflicts, is actually the ultimate source of them. ... The " isms " and " phobias," he says, have been used in order to " put some complex matters beyond discussion, so that only one perspective can be publicly confessed to." ... " In the world of political correctness," he writes, " there is no presumption of innocence, but only a hunger for targets." ...

... AND THEN IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001f3w - this begins by discussing upon places of worship [ SEE ABOVE ]

Theatres of Faith - Living With The Gods Omnibus

Neil MacGregor continues the omnibus editions of his series on the expression of shared beliefs in communities around the world and across time. ... In this programme he considers the importance that religious traditions attach to public rituals - where members of the community are both participants and spectators, helping to create spiritual and social cohesion. He explore the journeys of pilgrims, the ritual acts of offerings and sacrifice, and the creation of sacred buildings - through which societies articulate a view of the proper ordering of the world ...

I SEARCHED FOR A CERTAIN IMAGE ON Y REPWBLIC LAST NIGHT BECAUSE OF THESE ATTACKS UPON OUR TEMPLE

https://www.google.co.uk/ - https://www.google.com/ - https://duckduckgo.com/ - AH : THE BEST RESULTS ...

GOOGLE TURNS " REPWBLIC " IT INTO " REPUBLIC " - SO WE SEARCH " Y REPWBLIC " - PEN DDU'S MASTER STROKE !

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PHOTOPHUCKIT ARE TRYING TO EXTORT MONEY OUT OF ME BY SCREWING UP MY IMAGES - AND SINCE " THE LAST POST " / " THE CHARTIST FUNERAL ( OF BRITANNIA ) " SO FAR ONLY EXISTS AND MAY ONLY EVER EXIST EXIST ON PAPER ( BUT IF I SCRIPT IT AND DEPICT IT THEN E.G. THE ANARCHO-REPUBLICANS MIGHT HAVE A BASH AT IT _ BUT THEY DO NOT LIKE CILMERI ) BECAUSE I CAN NOT GET MARIANNE AND MORITZ TO GO TO CILMERI ( AFTER HER ROW WITH BALCHDER CYMRU - " BC " - AND THEREFORE WE SUSPECT THAT IT WAS THE ORIGINAL 1900's " BYDDIN CYMRU " WHICH SPAWNED THE 1960's " BYDDIN RHYDDID CYMRU " ) - SO AFTER MONTHS OF IMAGES NOT PUBLISHED AND BEING LOCKED OUT OF MY ACCOUNT I AM THINKING OF SELECTING ANOTHER IMAGE SUPPORTER ... I WAS TREATED TO LUNCH IN " THE ( BLACK ) EAGLE " TODAY AND THAT WAS A RARE OPPORTUNITY TO EVIDENCE THAT " ERYR WEN " IS NOT " THE EAGLE " WITH AN EXAMPLE OF " THE BLACK EAGLE OF THE HOLY EMPIRE IN WALES AND THE WORLD " ... >SIGH< ... OR SHOULD I FINISH TODAY'S PROEM ?

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BY THE WAY - ARE BARCLAYS TWISTING THE HISTORY OF " THE BLACK AND BLUE SPREAD EAGLE " ?

https://www.archive.barclays.com/items/show/5416

Barclays Eagle

[ DOES NOT MENTION THAT NEARLY ALL OF THE RADICAL REPUBLICAN PAMPHLETS IN THE 1650s - LEVELLERS, RANTERS, DIGGERS, QUAKERS ETC - WERE " PRINTED AT THE BLACK SPREAD EAGLE " BY GILES AND ELIZABETH CALVERT - USING A " SECRET " PRINTING PRESS HIDDEN IN A WAGON WHICH THEY MOVED AROUND TO EVADE CROMWELL'S SPIES - THE CALVERTS ORGANISED ERBERY'S AND NAYLOR'S DEFENCES AGAINST BLASPHEMY ]

" In 1728 the partnership moved to 54 Lombard Street at the sign of the black spread eagle, and in 1736, Freame's son Joseph, took his brother-in-law, James Barclay on as a partner. The business expanded over the years and although other properties in Lombard Street were acquired, many with their own signs, the spread eagle was to remain associated with the Barclay partnership. ... In the 1930s, Barclays Bank Limited sought and obtained a Grant of Arms. The Bank wanted to keep the Eagle it had used for so long but, because other ancient and royal houses carried it in various forms, the College of Arms ruled that it must be “ differenced.” This was done by adding three silver crowns ( since numbers 43 and 55, both part of the head office site, bore the signs of the three crowns and the three kings,) and the Grant of Arms was made in 1937. ... The 'Barclays blue' colour was gradually introduced during the 1960s, and was made official following Board approval in May 1970 ...

[ DOES NOT MENTION THE ROW WHICH BARCLAYS HAD WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE NETHERLANDS WHO WERE OCCUPIED DURING WORLD WAR TWO BY THE NAZIS WHO REDESIGNED AND STREAMLINED " THE BLACK EAGLE IN THE HOLY EMPIRE " AS " THE BLACK EAGLE IN THE THIRD REICH " - AND BARCLAYS BLUNDERED WHEN THEY BUILT A VERY TALL OFFICE BLOCK WITH THE 17c COMMONWEALTH IN ENGLAND, SCOTLAND AND IRELAND'S BLACK " THREE CROWN'D EAGLE " DISPLAYED PROMINENTLY ON THE SIDE OF IT LOOMING OVER - AMSTERDAM ? - WHICH RESULTED IN SO MANY PROTESTS THAT THEY HAD TO PAINT IT " THE BLUE IN THE NETHERLANDS " ]

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Having mentioned The Military Junta in England which seized control of The Commonwealth - did you know this ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Cromwell - Monocratic Republican and The Architect in The Commonwealth

Thomas Cromwell's spectacular rise and fall involved The Gwilym Family in Eglwys Newydd who changed their name in England to Cromwell to signify their alliance with him after he made them landowners in Cambridgeshire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Cromwell - Aristocratic Republican - The Protector in The Commonwealth who -

- was descended from The Gwilym Family - and supported by the remains of Y Plaid Cymreig - The Regicide in England who married his sister to Sion ap Sion to signify their alliance - before becoming The Genocides in Ireland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jones_Maesygarnedd - Democratic Republican - The Martyred Murderer -

- first married to Margaret Edwards who was a devotee and patron of The Cradockites in Wales - and significantly their alliance with Edmund Ludlow led to their opposition to Cromwell - yet he did marry Catherine Cromwell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Llwyd - Democratic Republican - The Poet Priest in The New Model Army -

- Cradocwr author of " Llyfr y Tri Aderyn " in which The Royalist Raven and The Republican Eagle are defeated by The Democratic Dove who brings The Olive Branch of Peace anticipating The Last Judgement of The King.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Cradock - Aristocratic Republican - The Curate in Cardiff of William Erbery -

- commanded troops with fellow preachers Vavasor Powell and Jenkin Jones but advocated for Oliver Cromwell against them - like Erbery inspired by William Wroth and Henry Jesse - look : the connections just go everywhere !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Ludlow - Democratic Republican ? - The Last Leader in The Republic -

- married to Elizabeth Thomas of Wenvoe who went into exile with him after The Executions in The Restoration - they escaped The Assassins in Europe to Vevey living beneath The Famous Latin Tag of The Republicans in Wales.

" OMNE SOLEM FORTI PATRIA QUIA PATRIS "

This Wikipedia page says that " this is a Christianized version of a line by Ovid meaning ' to the brave man every land is a fatherland because God his father made it.' " - but this has also been argued to have a cryptic meaning.

http://repwblic.informe.com/omne-solem-fortis-patria-quia-patris-dt1202.html

... I write that quotation across the calendar of my pocket diary at the beginning of The New Year ...

The Republicans in Wales continued to live on in secrecy for generations ... this did not begin seventy years ago ...

... Why did Iolo mention Cicero in Barddas ? ... http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/bim1/bim1007.htm ...

... Iolo Morganwg casually referred to many manuscripts which many academics assume to be forgeries : why ?

... It is fascinating - it is Welsh - and this is perhaps The Republicanism in 16c, 17c and 18c Wales being disguised.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicero

" ... Though he was an accomplished orator and successful lawyer, Cicero believed his political career was his most important achievement. It was during his consulship that the second Catilinarian conspiracy attempted to overthrow the government through an attack on the city by outside forces, and Cicero suppressed the revolt by summarily and controversially executing five conspirators. During the chaotic latter half of the 1st century BC marked by civil wars and the dictatorship of Gaius Julius Caesar, Cicero championed a return to the traditional republican government. Following Julius Caesar's death, Cicero became an enemy of Mark Antony in the ensuing power struggle, attacking him in a series of speeches. He was proscribed as an enemy of the state by the Second Triumvirate and consequently executed by soldiers operating on their behalf in 43 BC after having been intercepted during an attempted flight from the Italian peninsula. His severed hands and head were then, as a final revenge of Mark Antony, displayed in the Roman Forum ... " ... [ THE OPEN HAND = CICERO'S HAND ] ...

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=477 - La Main Ouverte - The Open Hand - Y Llaw Agored
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9eGoMQwyKg - Should human rights always outweigh religious rites ?

Tricky ... in The United Kingdom The Religious Ideologies are being protected within The Law as it presently stands but The Political Ideologies are not : why should that be the case ? ... Why should it be that just because somebody invokes the idea of G#D or G+D or G)D or G?D etc - as typically The Governing Idea in The Theological Ideology - their opinions should be placed beyond scrutiny and criticism ? ... For example I was with " Y " yesterday driving her to some out of the way remand home for The Children in Care and whilst I was waiting for her to try to repair the harm being done to The People in The Property in The State I started to think about a proem which began with the idea of Dame Florence's Reform School for Delinquent Young Ladies - obviously some kind of finishing off education to teach them to be irresponsible adults - and I discussed this with her in terms of " What if we substituted religious for political ideologies in The Model in Ideo-Rational Analysis e.g. if these were delinquent teenage neo-pagans what kind of a Kooky religion would Fascism turn out to be ? " ... I am never joking of course : The Right in Neo-Paganism are The Odinists in The World who are The Nazis in The Cosmos ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFlwtIaSxjo - The Repertory Grid 2/2 Personal Construct Psychology

Confused by The Meta-Ideologies in Republicanism ? ... I found The Repertory Grid in The Philosophy in The Psychology in Personal Constructs to be unwieldy so I stripped out The Useful Bits in order to develop The Ten Point Plan which might be described as The Compass in Counselling i.e. The Model in The Ideo-Rational Analysis has this kind of approach to asking questions in order to subsume somebody else's ideology - to enter into their own belief system in order to advise them from within it ... There really is no point in coercing others to change their belief systems - so The Friends of The People in The Republic do not do this because this is not only grossly arrogant but stupid : there is no objective way to assess the validity of the subject's construction of The World in The Mind other than by experimenting with the consequences of it in The Life in The World ... The People in Politics harm themselves and others by misconstruing The World in their minds ... Look at what it means to The People in Wales to be " Welsh " ... most of the ideas about what it means to be " Welsh " are fed to them in The Media in The World from The People in The Press in London - and that more or less means accepting and copying the roles given to The People in Wales as trivial bit players in The Movies in England ... not The Reality in Wales !!! ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjrXy2FOUoA - Hedd Wyn : The Lost War Poet - Not The Trope in Wales !!!

... Instead of getting to grips with The Realities in Wales and developing rational and effective Meta-Ideologies about The Life in Wales which improve The Public Discourses in Wales about how our Spiritualities are not being connected to our Politics, about how our Religions are not being connected to our Economics, about how our Cultures are not being connected to our Sciences ... The Poverty in The Public Discourses in Wales is being reflected in their consequences - The Poverty in The People in Wales ... where Spirituality has been reduced to The Male Voice Choir ( which is making it very difficult for The Female Voice Choir whose teenage members retreat into their bedrooms to read The Books in White Witchery instead of going out to debate Politics and thus become better adjusted in The Moot in The Coven ) ... where Religion will not challenge and dispute with Economics about the number of The People in The Sleeping Bags in The Doorways in Wales ... where Culture refuses to engage in any argument with Science because it does not speak Welsh and therefore it is not relevant to The World in Wales ...

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YESTERDAY

Now here at The Dame Florence School for Young Delinquent Witches_We try to - hey ! - STOP PLAYING WITH THE SWITCHES ! -_Um ... er ... teach you all to Draw The Circle Wide_And do try to /get on with/ each other - and/ do not be so snide_For you will all turn out so lady-like instead of little bitches ... = Now - I will call you out by colour and then you can say your name_And tell us all your misdemeanours and who you want to blame_Tell us then about your magic - whether it was good or bad -_And then I want you all to think about it - to see if it makes you glad_To have hurt so many people with each naughty game ... = Blue ? Maggie - and I never ever did them wrong_When I punished them for striking - and of course because I'm strong_And I just will not listen to your opinions_Whilst all around me my weak minions_Deny those broken families' cries - for I was The Winner at The Gong ! = Yellow ? Shirley - well - I was brought up quite politely_And have therefore done nothing which is unsightly_Except for performing in public splits_Which left my audience all in fits_Who complained - of course - but I smiled brightly ! = Red ? - Barbara - Huh ! - I my-self was ed-ew-kay-ted_To tay-ke hi-yer of-fiss ar-nd play-kay-ted _The Yew-ni-ons huym I awl tran-spor-ted_An' in mey o-pin-yun wars re-port-ed_WRONGLY - I wood 'ayve theym awl ca-stray-ted =

TODAY

Orange ? - Emma - I do not hold with education_When in the hands of The State called " Nation "_I strongly object to what is Right_And I have always joined in every fight_My Propaganda in The Deed is - ASSASSINATION !!! = Purple ? - Adela ... I do not know why I have been brought here_I have repented - and made ammends ... I fear ... _That none of you will find your peace_As I have) now/ done with The Police :_/So/ I am just working my ticket - have I made myself clear ? = Green ? - Leanne - I am but a housewife who was cruelly led astray_When The Friend invited me to Y Republic's Day : _I thought he was against The Queen - like me -_I just did not understand The Scene - you see ? _But The Republicans deal in The Rule of Law - and so I ran away !!! = Black ? - Pauline - I am really truly sorry ... NO - I AM BLOODY NOT ! _We must defend our country and we use what we have got : _Imagination is our weapon - we do not need guns to fight ! _Das Freie Korps in Wales is here to stay - to give you all a fright ! -_Because we are proud of our tradition - whilst " dai " is talking - " ROT !!! "


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[ ... Dai Saw - " You do know that in German that should be " Freikorps " do you not ? " ... dai repwblic - " I do not want to be that mean to The Black Faction - anyway ' Freie Korps ' adds a humorous twist which conveys more of what they are really like as The People in The Black in Wales ... Get it ? " Das Freie " in German sort of conveys " The Open " ... Mind you - I was a bit gloomier earlier and I did think about the gag " Kriegs-Korps-Kümri " - but I will slave that one for another day : I do not believe that they are like that - I think that they do not understand the emotions which they are playing with.]

[ POETIC POST SCRIPT - " Make The Circle More Wide " - Capitalisation for a Crazy emphasis ; " Make The Circle More Wide " - bad grammar to jolt attention ; " Make The Circle More Wide " - bend a well known phrase to disrupt the reader ; " Make The Circle More Wide " - alliteration i.e. cynghanedd in using English ; " Make The Circle More Wide " - to change the sense being conveyed to compulsory, positive and active instead of voluntary, negative and passive " Cast The Circle Widely " - perhaps ? ]

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The Dame Florence School for Young Delinquent Witches

" Now here at The Dame Florence School for Young Delinquent Witches_
We try to - HEY !!! - STOP PLAYING WITH THOSE SWITCHES !!! -_
Um ... er ... to try to teach you all - to Make The Circle More Wide_
And do at least try to get on with each other - and - do not be so snide -_
For I wish to instruct you all ... to be lady-like - instead of little bitches ... "

" Now - I will call you out by colour - and then you can give The Name_
And tell us all of your misdemeanours - and whom you want to blame :_
Relate tales tall - about your magic - as to whether it was good or bad -_
For I want you now to think about it - to consider if it makes you glad_
To have hurt so many of The People - with every kind of naughty game ... "

" Blue ? " - " Maggie - and I never - ever - did anything that was possibly wrong :_
When I punished them for striking - that - was - be - cause - I - am - strong -_
And so I will not listen to your opinions_
Whilst all around me my weak minions_
Deny these broken families' cries - for was I not The Winner - at The Gong ? "

" Yellow ? " - " Shirley - well - I was brought up - quite politely -_
And have therefore not done nothing which is un-sightly_
Except for performing - in public - ' The Splits ' -_
Which indeed left my audiences screaming in fits :_
They all complained - of course - but I just smiled on brightly ! "

" Red ? " - " Bar-bar-rah - huh ! - I my-seylf wars ed-ew-kay-ted_
To tay-ke hiy-he of-fiss whey-re I fay-mess-ly play-kay-ted _
They Yew-ni-ons huym I awl tran-spor-ted_
Arnd - in mey oh-pin-yun - wars miss-re-port-ed_
WRONGLY - I wood 'ayve theym awl car-stray-ted ... "

" Orange ? " - " Emma ... I do not hold with education_
When in the hands of The State called ... " Nation "_
I strongly object to - everything which is Right_
And I have always joined in with - every fight :_
My Propaganda in The Deed is - ASSASSINATION !!! "

" Purple ? " - " Er ... Adela ... why have I been brought here ?_
I have repented - and I have made my amends ... I fear ... _
That none of you - will be able to - go out and find your peace -_
As I have now done - with my new friends - The Political Police :_
So I am just working my ticket - have I made myself clear ? "

" Green ? " - " Leanne - I am but a housewife ... who was cruelly led astray_
By The Friend of the friend - who invited me ... over to Y Repwblic's Day : _
I thought that he was against ... The Queen - like me -_
Because I did not understand ... The Scene - you see ? _
But The Republicans in Wales ... deal in The Rule of Law - so I ran away !!! "

" Black ? " - " Pauline ... I am really - truly - sorry ... NO I AM BLOODY NOT !!! _
We must defend our nation - and we must use what we have got : _
Imagination is our weapon - we do not need guns - or bombs - to fight : _
" Das Freie Korps in Wales " is here to stay - just to give you all a fright ! -_
Because we are proud of our traditions - whilst ' dai ' is talking - ' ROT !!! ' "

" White ? " - " Oh ! - That is me ! - And of course - my name is Flo ! _
My magic is now Republican - but this took some time to grow -_
Because I have neither been selected -_
Nor do I ever - never ! - want to be elected :_
For voting is surely not political - what we need is analytical - in order to rebuild - The Rainbow - !!! "

dai rewblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author reserves The Moral Right - not to sue for copyright !

[ THREE DAYS LATER I DECIDE TO ADD ONE LAST VERSE - " FLO " WAS MY OLD NICKNAME AS A TEENAGER BECAUSE MY BIG MASS OF CURLY BLACK LOCKS MADE ME LOOK LIKE THE FLORENCE IN THE MAGIC ROUNDABOUT - AND THE ANGER IN THE ANARCHISM I SUBSCRIBED TO RESULTED IN MY BIG MESS OF SURLY BLACK LOOKS - BUT HEY - NOW THESE HAVE TURNED INTO MY BIG MISS OF PEARLY WHITE ... ER ... BOOKS ? ]

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NOT FIXED : I AM WALKING AWAY TO GET SOME DISTANCE FROM THIS FOR A WHILE ... ( THE PROEM THAT IS )

... I try to take some time out between each snag and fix in order to bring a fresh eye and perhaps some better understanding as to where I am going with these proems - especially when I start stringing them together like this in a theme ... I like the recreation - much better than wasting my time on cross words or crosswords or crossed words ... which I presume that I am having with Gethin although I am mostly unaware of it : he rants at us all to get our fingers out and follow him into the dustbin of history ... where - to be honest - he has dug out some very interesting things which were thrown away by others ... But that is not politics ... nor is what mostly appears on Y Repwblic either in the sense of getting our fingers out - but it really is most impolitic to be conducting these long protracted arguments with Cardiff City County Council - or rather more accurately Cardiff City's Labour and Cooperative Party - which drag on for decades without achieving anything ... I need time out in " Y Repwblic " each evening - today most of the day - in order to maintain my resolve to continue arguing - and living - with them ...

... The situation with Gethin and Sian is that they continually have fun with flags - so do I occasionally - whilst The Republicans in Wales and The Welsh Republicans either continually plod away at collecting their facts and making their arguments - often contradicting each other because The Left Wing and The Right Wing of The Eagle in Wales are no longer connected - because The Body of The Eagle got roasted and eaten by The Political Establishment in Wales back in the 1960s - and all they left for us to gnaw on is The Wishing Bone ... Gethin and I both put in quite a few hours and we both annoy The Friends in The Republic by sending them our emails - although I send out a lot less than him ... I got fed up with Gethin pouring emails into my personal email account and took a decision to ban all non-personal emails from it and having asked both himself and others to stick to strictly using my political correspondence address - I also got fed up with being sent religious circulars and had to do the same with those - he carried on blindly pressing " send to list R " and so I had to actually block him from my personal account and ...

... Gethin and Sian are so busy sending out their junk emails they can not find the time to read the junk emails which they receive - and so presumably they either believe that they are only sent junk emails by return of " send " - or they are sulking about their junk emails not being read or ... ? ... I got fed up recently and told them to reply or I would go and doorstep them and yesterday I made good on my promise by going to call on Sian ... only to be told by a neighbour that she had moved ... years before ... well that is useful - is it not ? - Any kind of organisation requires a regular correspondence and a good address book ... how the hell are we supposed to be following Gethin if we can not even find him ? ... Fortunately for me I am following nobody but The President in The Republic in Heaven - but I have exactly the same problem with Him : he never answers my prayers and all I receive from Him all the time is a stream of junk entreaties ... and how am I supposed to read them all ? ... The Torah Times, The Son on Some-day - and The South Wales Muslim Echo ? ... I am still struggling with The Readers In Dai-question ... I like Gethin but ... we are like The Engines in Opposition : on the same track - but going in opposite directions ... Fortunately we are travelling on parallel rails because a single track line would spell disaster ... he too has mentioned - The English ! ... So : here is Gethin The Shunt Engine's Welsh Nationalist Republicanical Situationist Spectacle ... on-the-rail-away-line ... busy in his sidings ... moving those old empty trucks around ...

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I had in mind to slant the next post towards The Left having done The Right - and address a bit of The History in Wales and The World in the person of Robert Owen which would lead to Karl Marx and then Stalin and mass murder as perpetrated by Socialist Extremists instead of Fascist Extremists - both of those ideologies provide useful political critiques within The Public Discourse - but both of them when carried into extremes by the consequences of Democracy are highly dangerous - but then so are Conservativism, Anarchism, Liberalism and Communism : extreme violence within societies and against other societies have been perpetrated by powerful elites professing all six of these ideologies - in other words those who pursue their interests through Lies, Hatred, Slavery and War will bring Death to any of those who try to oppose them with political arguments ... In other words at the heart of any modern Democratic society is typically The Big Black Faction - typically Monocrats ( e.g. in North Korea ) and Aristocrats ( e.g. in The United States of America ) and Hierocrats ( e.g. in Iran ) pretending to Democratic sentiments as a strategy to deceive The People in The World into obedience to The State in The World with the idea that they have a share in The Power in The State because they elect their representatives to negotiate the terms of their surrender to The Government in The State ... resulting in The Little Black Factions ...

... Representative Democracy - even when conducted within The Constitution in The Democratic Republic - is a confidence trick in which The People in The Poverty are deceived by The People in The Money into volunteering to accept their own exclusion from The Political System in The World through voting ... Long before The Election of Representatives there is The Selection of The Candidates which is decided in secrecy by private interests not in openness by The Public Interest ... Here in The United Kingdom and over in The United States of America there is an even worse scenario in that The Government in The State is ( mostly ) decided in The Political System in Two Party Politics ... the consequences of this are that the minorities have no elected representatives and have to beg for relief from what The Two Parties in Government are doing to them ... and please do not get that ... In The Political System in Proportional Representation minorities have elected representatives and can bargain for their private interests with the other parties and this better serves The Public Interest because typically the only thing which they can mutually agree upon are the private interests which they can all share in i.e. The Public Interest ...

... However - what tends to happen in The Political System in Proportional Representation is that major parties form coalitions with minor parties whose bargaining power is not proportional to the votes which they can cast in The National Assembly : what therefore develops is like The Pork Barrel Politics in The State in Israel where the major parties hold The Dutch Auction where the minor parties bid lower and lower in order to secure their places in The Coalition in The Government - and therefore The Lowest Bid wins The Goods - or rather The Bads - in The Government ... In effect the major party buys off those minor parties who would otherwise individually oppose them or collectively form a coalition with more votes and therefore The Government in The State - and they buy them off with The Money in The Taxpayers - and as often as not this means The People in The Poverty because The People in The Money do not pay many taxes at all - instead they pay for The Selection of The Candidates and The Election of The Representatives who will not tax The People in The Money ...

... Real Republicanisms in general argue for The Tax in The Economy not The Tax in The Pocket - " poll taxes " and " customs taxes " etc can not be applied to individual people, goods or transactions in Republicanism and new taxes are not to be used opportunistically e.g. Capital Gains Tax, Inheritance Tax, alcohol and tobacco tax are akin to The Bill of Attainder which targets individuals or groups for discriminatory treatments in order to manipulate their behaviour e.g. to prop up markets in favour of private interests with subsidies - and this principle rejects The Argument in The Public Interest in which that is redefined by substituting a private interest for De Res Publica : there must be constant vigilance in Republicanisms against those incursions into political power which seek to do this ... In The United Kingdom - which is technically a Commonwealth but that is not The Political System in Modern Republicanism - the idea that The Public Interest is the sum of all private interests is argued to be The Basis in Democracy - but it is not in Real Republicanism : the sum of all competing private interests which are equally represented in The Political System in Democracy is - zero ...

... Republicanisms criticise zero sum political systems as dysfunctional and project positive sum political systems - and reject negative sum political systems - and suspect subjective sum political systems - and respect objective sum political systems ... in other words - if it does not have an economic consequence it is not a political issue : politics is about money ... We can not pursue The Public Interest without taxation - therefore those who evade paying their fair share of The Revenue are severely punished in Republicanisms : basically they are considered to be non-citizens, traitors to society - criminals ... So what kind of criminals are The Democrats in Wales and Westminster who compete to receive donations to their parties and who select their candidates and elect their representatives on the basis of these promises of targeted tax concessions - to either The People in The Poverty or The People in The Money - which transfer the burden of taxation onto others and do not distribute it equally across all sectors of The Economy in Wales ? ... Why are The People in The United Kingdom are so ignorant of politics that they do not understand that they are being bribed with their own money ? - Because they are serfs not citizens ...

... Exactly what is the point of defrauding The People in Poverty ? ... The Democrats in Wales and Westminster are not even competent criminals : Robin Hood and Twm Sion Cati robbed the rich because they were rational ... The Democrats tax The People in Poverty because they are paid to do so by The People in The Money : this is more obvious in The United Kingdom as a non-political system which involves The Two Party First Past The Post Plot ... How did their non-political system develop this Democratic disguise for The Aristocracy in The United Kingdom ? ... Gladstone and Disraeli were The 19c Architects in The Demockery : between them they competed to gradually dispense The Vote in The Upper Classes to The People in The Lower Classes - but note how they did it ... in effect they used The Bill in Attainder to buy off those sections of The Electorate in Waiting which presented them with The Problem in The Political Opposition - The Republicans in Wales and England were a significant political threat with The Republican Clubs in The City, Town and Village mushrooming everywhere - especially in The 1870s ... but then there was The Problem in Ireland : they did not want The Vote in Ireland - The People in Ireland wanted Home Rule ... each private interest was bought off - bit by bit - by vote ... they trained voters by tick and ballot ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZwBIY-o_cQ - Gladstone and Disraeli - admired by a ...

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13.00 PM MONDAY 03-12-18 - LOUSY - A CHAOTIC SLEEP PATTERN - BUT I PRESS ON ... EMAILS TO WRITE ...

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YOUR WIFE IS YOUR BEST COUNSELLOR - AND THE WIVES IN WALES ARE THE BEST OF ALL ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Gladstone

Catherine Gladstone ( née Glynne; 6 January 1812 – 14 June 1900 ) was the wife of British statesman William Ewart Gladstone for 59 years, from 1839 until his death in 1898 ... She was the daughter of Sir Stephen Glynne, 8th Baronet, of Hawarden Castle, who died when she was only three, and was reared with her sister Mary by her mother. The Glynne sisters, very close, were renowned for their beauty. They married on the same day in Hawarden Church, and their families visited one another and holidayed together incessantly. When Mary died, as Lady Lyttelton, in 1857, Catherine acted in some ways as mother to her children. ... Her brother Stephen succeeded to the baronetcy in 1815. On his death in 1874, the Glynne baronetcy became extinct and the estates passed to Catherine and William's eldest son, William Henry. Through the myriad strains and links in her heredity, Catherine found herself, according to Masterman, related in one way or another to " half the famous names in English political history " ... It was through her brother, who represented Flint as a Liberal MP, that Catherine met William Gladstone, reputedly in 1834 at the home in Tilney Street, London, of James Milnes Gaskell, one of Gladstone's Old Etonian friends and then Tory MP for Wenlock ...

... They were married on 25 July 1839 and lived at her ancestral home Hawarden Castle, in Flintshire, Wales. They had eight children, including Herbert John and Henry Neville Gladstone. She was buried next to her late husband in Westminster Abbey. Their daughter Mary referred to them collectively as " The Great People " ... " Catherine Gladstone," wrote Masterman, " was one of those informal geniuses who conduct life, and with complete success, on what the poverty of language compels me to call a method of their own." ... She was " like a fresh breeze " wherever she went and could, wrote a friend, grasp the subject of a discussion in "a few minutes' airy inattention." ... " What a bore you would have been," she teased her husband, " if you had married someone as tidy as you are." ... She went to great pains to improve the lives of others as a founder of convalescent homes, orphanages and the like. " Few people," wrote Masterman, " can have given so much of themselves to so many, and can have been directly responsible for more practical and effectual enterprises. This seems to have been achieved by a mind that kept the thread of its intentions through a series of inspired impulses and improvisations sustained, it should be said, by a circle of devoted people whose minds worked on more conventional lines."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Ewart_Gladstone

William Ewart Gladstone, FRS, FSS (/ˈɡlædstən/; 29 December 1809 – 19 May 1898 ) was a British statesman of the Liberal Party. In a career lasting over sixty years, he served for twelve years as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, spread over four terms beginning in 1868 and ending in 1894. He also served as Chancellor of the Exchequer four times ... He first entered the House of Commons in 1832, beginning his political career as a High Tory, a grouping which became the Conservative Party under Robert Peel in 1834. Gladstone served as a minister in both of Peel's governments, and in 1846 joined the breakaway Peelite faction, which eventually merged into the new Liberal Party in 1859. He was Chancellor under Lord Aberdeen ( 1852–1855,) Lord Palmerston ( 1859–1865,) and Lord Russell (1865–1866.) Gladstone's own political doctrine—which emphasised equality of opportunity, free trade, and laissez-faire economic policies—came to be known as Gladstonian liberalism. His popularity amongst the working-class earned him the sobriquet " The People's William " ...

... In 1868, Gladstone became Prime Minister for the first time. Many reforms were passed during his first ministry, including the disestablishment of the Church of Ireland and the introduction of secret voting. After electoral defeat in 1874, Gladstone resigned as Leader of the Liberal Party; but from 1876 he began a comeback based on opposition to Turkey's reaction to the Bulgarian April Uprising. His Midlothian Campaign of 1879–80 was an early example of many modern political campaigning techniques. After the 1880 general election, Gladstone formed his second ministry ( 1880–1885,) which saw the passage of the Third Reform Act as well as crises in Egypt ( culminating in the Fall of Khartoum ) and Ireland, where the government passed repressive measures but also improved the legal rights of Irish tenant farmers ... Back in office in early 1886, Gladstone proposed home rule for Ireland but was defeated in the House of Commons ..

... Back in office in early 1886, Gladstone proposed home rule for Ireland but was defeated in the House of Commons. The resulting split in the Liberal Party helped keep them out of office—with one short break—for twenty years. Gladstone formed his last government in 1892, at the age of 82. The Second Home Rule Bill passed through the House of Commons but was defeated in the House of Lords in 1893. Gladstone left office in March 1894, aged 84, as both the oldest person to serve as Prime Minister and the only Prime Minister to have served four terms. He left parliament in 1895 and died three years later. Gladstone was known affectionately by his supporters as " The People's William " or the " G.O.M." ( " Grand Old Man," or, according to his political rival Benjamin Disraeli, " God's Only Mistake." ) Historians often call him one of the greatest leaders ... A.J.P. Taylor has stated, " William Ewart Gladstone was the greatest political figure of the nineteenth century. I do not mean by that that he was necessarily the greatest statesman, certainly not the most successful. What I mean is that he dominated the scene."

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Disraeli

Benjamin Disraeli, 1st Earl of Beaconsfield, KG, PC, FRS (21 December 1804 – 19 April 1881) was a British statesman of the Conservative Party who twice served as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. He played a central role in the creation of the modern Conservative Party, defining its policies and its broad outreach. Disraeli is remembered for his influential voice in world affairs, his political battles with the Liberal Party leader William Ewart Gladstone, and his one-nation conservatism or " Tory democracy." He made the Conservatives the party most identified with the glory and power of the British Empire. He is the only British Prime Minister to have been Jewish by birth and the first person from an ethnic minority background to hold one of the Great Offices of State. He was also a novelist, publishing works of fiction even as Prime Minister ...

... After several unsuccessful attempts, Disraeli entered the House of Commons in 1837. In 1846, Prime Minister Robert Peel split the Conservatives over his proposal to repeal the Corn Laws, which involved ending the tariff on imported grain. As a result of his clashes with Peel in the House of Commons, Disraeli became a major Tory figure. When Lord Derby, the party leader, thrice formed governments in the 1850s and 1860s, Disraeli served as Chancellor of the Exchequer and Leader of the House of Commons ... Upon Derby's retirement in 1868, Disraeli became prime minister briefly before losing that year's general election. He returned to opposition until the general election of 1874, when he led the Tories as they won an outright majority ... Disraeli's second term was dominated by the Eastern Question—the slow decay of the Ottoman Empire and the desire of other European powers, such as Russia, to gain at its expense. Disraeli arranged for the British to purchase a major interest in the Suez Canal Company ( in Ottoman-controlled Egypt.) ...

... In 1878, faced with Russian victories against the Ottomans, he worked at the Congress of Berlin to obtain peace in the Balkans at terms favourable to Britain and unfavourable to Russia, its longstanding enemy. This diplomatic victory established Disraeli as one of Europe's leading statesmen ... World events thereafter moved against the Conservatives. The Second Anglo-Afghan War and the Anglo-Zulu War in South Africa undermined his public support. He angered British farmers by refusing to re-institute the Corn Laws in response to poor harvests and cheap imported grain. With Gladstone conducting a massive speaking campaign, his Liberals bested the Conservatives at the 1880 general election ... Disraeli died on 19 April 1881 at the age of 76. In his final months, he led the Conservatives in opposition. He had always maintained a close friendship with Queen Victoria, who in 1876 appointed him Earl of Beaconsfield. His last completed novel, Endymion, was published in 1881 shortly before his death, more than 50 years after his first ...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Anne_Disraeli

Mary Anne Disraeli, 1st Viscountess Beaconsfield, born Evans (11 November 1792 – 15 December 1872) was a British peeress and society figure and the wife of Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli ... Born in Tongwynlais, Cardiff, the only daughter of Commander John Viney-Evans and his cousin Eleanor Scrope-Viney, she first married Wyndham Lewis, MP ( 1780–1838.) The year following Lewis's death she married Benjamin Disraeli. In recognition of his services to the nation, Queen Victoria desired to ennoble Disraeli; as he wished to remain in the House of Commons, his wife accepted the title in his place and was created Viscountess Beaconsfield, of Beaconsfield in the County of Buckingham on 30 November 1868 ( After Mary's death he accepted the title Earl of Beaconsfield.) ... Staid Victorians were often scandalised by Mary's uninhibited remarks but soon learned not to insult her within Disraeli's hearing. Even Queen Victoria herself was said to be amused when Mary Anne commented, in response to a remark about some lady's pale complexion, " I wish you could see my Dizzy in his bath ! " ...

... Disraeli had been unimpressed by Mary when he first met her, but he came to understand that she was shrewder than her outwardly silly manner and non-sequiturs had led him to believe. She was a great help to him in editing the books he wrote, and spent 30 years taking care of him. He joked that he had married her for her money but would do it again for love, but the truth is that she was not really wealthy. She was some twelve years older than her husband, and he may not have known her true age, but their romance continued until the day she died. In later life she became increasingly eccentric, both in conversation and appearance, but her husband's devotion and loyalty to her never faltered ... " There was no care which she could not mitigate, and no difficulty which she could not face. She was the most cheerful and courageous woman I ever knew" her husband wrote after her death. His great adversary William Ewart Gladstone, who had liked Mary, wrote him a letter of condolence. Disraeli, touched by this sympathy from a man who disliked him, replied that " Marriage is the greatest earthly happiness when founded on mutual sympathy." ...

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It was exactly in this period of time - from the mid 1860s to the mid 1890s - that The Republicans in Britain had their highest peak of support with The Republican Clubs in Scotland, England and Wales flourishing in every city, town and even in villages - with two MPs in Westminster declaring themselves to be Republicans - with Republicans involved in founding the cooperatives and trade unions, The Trade Union Congress and laying the foundations of what were to become The Labour Party, The Cooperative Party, Plaid Genedlaethol Cymru and Civic Republican - " Civ " - being one of the sentiments involved in the splits in The Liberal Party and The Conservative Party which led to the modern political scene in Britain ... I will leave Ireland out of that scenario because it got very complicated over there but the controversies over conscription in both Britain and Ireland in World War One - especially the sneaky way in which it was introduced - which led to The Easter Rising in Dublin in 1916 led also to the final collapse of United Republicanism in the wave of sentiments which washed over Britain in the aftermath of war which resulted in the massive inter-war peace movement ...

... The sentiments associated with " Civ " persisted after World War Two but the word " Republican " became dissociated from The Public Discourse in Britain and replaced with idle empty references to " The Public Interest " and The Republicanisms in Wales, England and Scotland were written out of the history books as if the most important and influential political theory within Britain for over four hundred years had never existed : try explaining to any of The Democrats in Wales that buried within The Unwritten Constitution in The United Kingdom is an archaic Monarchic Republican political system and they will treat you as insane : The Rule of Law in The Tudor Commonwealth which enabled The Parliamentary Party to indict, convict and execute Charles I as a traitor on the grounds that he was a public servant who had rebelled against The Sovereignty in The Law which had bestowed The Crown upon him - that he did not possess The Throne in Divine Right - is now forgotten due to the confusion which was poured over The Unwritten Constitution by Bagehot in his efforts to deny Home Rule to The People in Ireland ... One of the reasons why we need The Written Constitution - to sort this mess out ... and by that I mean The Devolution in Wales : we need The Court in Wales - The Government in Wales is simply not equipped with the means to govern !

The Republicans in England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales have been arguing the case for The Written Constitution in The United Kingdom for centuries - and The Rule of Law has now more or less collapsed in Wales with recourse to redress in The Civil Courts, The Magistrates Courts and The High Court more or less not being possible for any practical purpose for ordinary people ... Even millionaires and The Welsh Government itself face ruinous expenses in pursuing simple legal matters : if our only agreed account of the morality and ethics which we are prepared to enforce with The Power in The State is in The Law - i.e. The Law is our only agreed account of De Res Publica - then The Rule of Law is in The Public Interest as De Bona Publica - The Public Good - i.e. the necessary thing which we must all share in if we are to have The Civilised Society - therefore we must have free access to a legal remedy at those times of crisis in our lives when so often it exactly then that we are without the means to pay these ruinous expenses imposed by The English Law - we need create The Welsh Court not merely to draught bills and confirm acts and policies to be lawful within The Political System in Wales but to administer The Welsh Jurisdiction in Justice Free in The Crisis - and pay for this collectively out of The Welsh Revenue ...

Remember The Republicans in The 1860s - 1890s in The United Kingdom ...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Charles_Dilke,_2nd_Baronet

Sir Charles Wentworth Dilke, 2nd Baronet, PC ( 4 September 1843 – 26 January 1911 ) was an English Liberal and Radical politician. A Republican in the early 1870s, he later became a leader in the Radical challenge to Whig control of the Liberal Party, making a number of important contributions, including the legislation increasing democracy in 1883-1885, his support of the growing labour and feminist movements and his prolific writings on international affairs ... Touted as a future prime minister, his aspirations to higher political office were effectively terminated in 1885 after a notorious and well-publicised divorce case ... His disgrace and the alignment of Joseph Chamberlain with the Conservatives both greatly weakened the Radical cause ... Despite being a radical, Dilke was also an imperialist; he argued for British imperial domination in his bestselling 1868 book, Greater Britain ... In 1871, Dilke caused controversy when he criticised the British monarchy and argued that the United Kingdom should adopt a republican form of government ...

... A leading and determined radical within the party, he negotiated the passage of the Third Reform Act ... He also supported laws giving the municipal franchise to women, legalising labour unions, improving working conditions and limiting working hours. He was also one of the earliest campaigners for universal schooling ... In 1889, he was approached by the Forest of Dean Liberal Association to stand as its parliamentary candidate since his radical credentials suited the mining constituency seeking employment law reform ... Three years later, however, Dilke accepted the invitation, against Gladstone's wishes and, at the 1892 general election, was duly elected as the MP for the Forest of Dean, which he held for the remainder of his life ... He had hoped to be appointed Secretary of State for War in the Liberal Government formed in 1905, but it was not to be. Dilke attributed it to the incoming Prime Minister Henry Campbell-Bannerman's lingering resentment towards Dilke for his role in the 1895 " cordite vote," which had brought about the end of Lord Rosebery's administration in 1895 ...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilia_Dilke

Emilia Francis, Lady Dilke ( née Strong; 2 September 1840, Ilfracombe, Devon – 23 October 1904 ) was an English author, art historian, feminist and trade unionist ... She married Mark Pattison, Rector of Lincoln College, Oxford, in 1861; she was then known as Francis Pattison, Mrs. Mark Pattison, or, in some of her publications, as E. F. S. Pattison. After Mark Pattison's death in 1884, she married Sir Charles Dilke, and was subsequently known as Lady Dilke or Emilia Dilke. Both of her marriages were topics of some public discussion ... She became a contributor to the Saturday Review in 1864 and subsequently was for many years fine-art critic of the Academy and from 1873 its art editor, and she published in numerous other journals in Britain and France. In addition to numerous signed and unsigned essays, and her major works of art history, she wrote essays on French politics and on women's trade unionism and women's work ... She was involved with the Women's Protective and Provident League, later the Women's Trade Union League ( WTUL,) from near its inception in 1874 and she served as President of the WTUL for many years until her death. Her niece, Gertrude Tuckwell ( daughter of her sister Rosa and brother-in-law the Reverend William Tuckwell ) worked with her closely in her feminist and trade unionist activities ...


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypatia_Bradlaugh_Bonner

Hypatia Bradlaugh Bonner ( 31 March 1858 – 25 August 1935 ) was a British peace activist, author, atheist and freethinker, and the daughter of Charles Bradlaugh ... [ her mother was Susannah Lamb Hooper - so Hypatia was a grand-daughter of Abraham Hooper - Freethinker, Moral Force Chartist and Radical Republican in the 1840s ] ... She was born Hypatia Bradlaugh, at 3 Hedger's Terrace, Hackney, London, the second daughter of Charles Bradlaugh, the first openly atheist Member of Parliament and founder of the National Secular Society, and Susannah Lamb Hooper. She was named after Hypatia, the Ancient Greek pagan philosopher, mathematician, astronomer and teacher, who was murdered by a mob of Coptic monks under the authority of Christian archbishop Cyril of Alexandria ... Bradlaugh Bonner was educated in private schools in London and Paris, and qualified as a science teacher from the University of London, which admitted women to " full privileges " ( i.e. degrees ) in 1878. She taught in the Hall of Science for the South Kensington Science and Art Examinations, and also acted as a secretary for her father after 1888 ...

... Bonner was also a lecturer for the National Secular Society and the Rationalist Press Association ... From 1897 to 1904, she was editor of The Reformer, the main purpose of which according to Bernard Porter was to " vindicate her father's career " ... However, she was an active contributor to many secularist periodicals including the National Reformer and author of many other books relating to secularism, blasphemy and freethinking. In Penalties upon Opinion she catalogues various trials and cases of blasphemy including the recent revival in blasphemy prosecutions in the first decades of the 20th century ... In 1910, Bonner became the chairperson of the first secular peace society, the Rationalist Peace Society. The aim of the society was to "protest against ideas and methods which are utterly opposed to reason and the interests of social progress". In her introduction to Essays towards peace, Hypatia noted that there was a "growing public opinion in favour of arbitration as the alternative to war" and that it was reason that demonstrated " the futility, the brutality, the economic waste, the immorality of war " ... The Rationalist Peace Society remained active throughout the war, but fell into decline after peace was concluded ...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bradlaugh

Charles Bradlaugh (/ˈbrædlɔː/; 26 September 1833 – 30 January 1891 ) was an English political activist and atheist. He founded the National Secular Society in 1866 ... In 1880, Bradlaugh was elected as the Liberal MP for Northampton. His attempt to affirm as an atheist ultimately led to his temporary imprisonment, fines for voting in the Commons illegally, and a number of by-elections at which Bradlaugh regained his seat on each occasion. He was finally allowed to take an oath in 1886. Eventually, a parliamentary bill which he proposed became law in 1888 which allowed members of both Houses of Parliament to affirm, if they so wished, when being sworn in. The new law resolved the issue for witnesses in civil and criminal court cases ...
[ SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT LEANNE WOOD AM AND BETHAN JENKINS AM WERE UP TO WITH Y REPWBLIC IN " YR ARDYSTIAD " - WHICH THE WESTERN MAIL MISREPRESENTED AS A " REPUBLICAN OATH " - THERE ARE NO OATHS IN REPUBLICANISM : WE DO NOT DEAL IN MUMBO JUMBO - WE ATTEST TO THE FACTS AS TRUTHFUL AND OBJECTIVE WITNESSES ] ...

... Born in Hoxton ( an area in the East End of London,) Bradlaugh was the son of a solicitor's clerk. He left school at the age of eleven and then worked as an office errand-boy and later as a clerk to a coal merchant. After a brief spell as a Sunday school teacher, he became disturbed by discrepancies between the Thirty-nine Articles of the Anglican Church and the Bible. When he expressed his concerns, the local vicar, John Graham Packer, accused him of atheism and suspended him from teaching. He was thrown out of the family home and was taken in by Eliza Sharples Carlile, the widow of Richard Carlile, who had been imprisoned for printing Thomas Paine's The Age of Reason. Soon Bradlaugh was introduced to George Holyoake, who organised Bradlaugh's first public lecture as an atheist. ... At the age of 17, he published his first pamphlet, A Few Words on the Christian Creed. However, refusing financial support from fellow freethinkers, he enlisted as a soldier with the Seventh Dragoon Guards hoping to serve in India and make his fortune. Instead he was stationed in Dublin. In 1853, he was left a legacy by a great-aunt and used it to purchase his discharge from the army ...

... Bradlaugh returned to London in 1853 and took a post as a solicitor's clerk. By this time he was a convinced freethinker and in his free time he became a pamphleteer and writer about "secularist" ideas, adopting the pseudonym "Iconoclast" to protect his employer's reputation. He gradually attained prominence in a number of liberal or radical political groups or societies, including the Reform League, Land Law Reformers, and Secularists ... He was President of the London Secular Society from 1858. In 1860 he became editor of the secularist newspaper, the National Reformer, and in 1866 co-founded the National Secular Society, in which Annie Besant became his close associate. In 1868, the Reformer was prosecuted by the British Government for blasphemy and sedition. Bradlaugh was eventually acquitted on all charges, but fierce controversy continued both in the courts and in the press ...

... A decade later ( 1876,) Bradlaugh and Besant decided to republish the American Charles Knowlton's pamphlet advocating birth control, The Fruits of Philosophy, or the Private Companion of Young Married People, whose previous British publisher had already been successfully prosecuted for obscenity. The two activists were both tried in 1877, and Charles Darwin refused to give evidence in their defence, pleading ill-health, but at the time writing to Bradlaugh that his testimony would have been of little use to them because he opposed birth control. They were sentenced to heavy fines and six months' imprisonment, but their conviction was overturned by the Court of Appeal on the basis that the prosecution had not set out the precise words which were alleged to be obscene in the indictment. The Malthusian League was founded as a result of the trial to promote birth control ... On 6 March 1881 he spoke at the opening of Leicester Secular Society's new Secular Hall in Humberstone Gate, Leicester. The other speakers were George Jacob Holyoake, Annie Besant and Harriet Law ...

... Bradlaugh was an advocate of trade unionism, republicanism, and universal suffrage, and he opposed socialism. His anti-socialism was divisive, and many secularists who became socialists left the secularist movement because of its identification with Bradlaugh's liberal individualism. He was a supporter of Irish Home Rule, and backed France during the Franco-Prussian War. He took a strong interest in India ... In 1880 Bradlaugh was elected Member of Parliament for Northampton. To take his seat and become an active Parliamentarian, he needed to signify his allegiance to the Crown and on 3 May Bradlaugh came to the Table of the House of Commons, bearing a letter to the Speaker " begging respectfully to claim to be allowed to affirm " instead of taking the religious Oath of Allegiance, citing the Evidence Amendment Acts of 1869 and 1870. Speaker Brand declared that he had " grave doubts " and asked the House for its judgment. Lord Frederick Cavendish, for the Government, moved that a Select Committee be set up to decide whether persons entitled to make a solemn affirmation in court were also allowed to affirm instead of taking the Parliamentary oath ...

... Bradlaugh wrote an open letter to The Times which was published on the morning of 21 May. He said it would have been hypocritical to voluntarily take the oath " including words of idle and meaningless character " without protest when another form of words was available, but now that the Select Committee had ruled he must, he would do so and " regard myself as bound not by the letter of its words, but by the spirit which the affirmation would have conveyed had I been permitted to use it." ... Bradlaugh's letter was regarded as a direct provocation by his opponents, and when he came to the table, Sir Henry Drummond Wolff rose to object to the administration of the Oath to Bradlaugh. Speaker Brand allowed him to object, and Wolff argued that the Evidence Amendment Acts referred to by Bradlaugh only allowed an affirmation to one who regarded the oath as meaningless, so the House should not allow Bradlaugh to take it ... Prime Minister William Gladstone, alerted to the fact that a protest was possible, moved to set up a second Select Committee to examine whether it was possible to interfere with a Member wishing to take the oath. Gladstone's amendment was carried by 289 to 214 ...

... The Select Committee began deliberating on 1 June 1880, when it considered a paper put in by Sir Thomas Erskine May, the Clerk of the House. Sir Thomas found several precedents for Members disabled to sit for refusing to take the Oath, together with Quaker MP Joseph Pease who was permitted to affirm, and Jewish MPs Baron Lionel de Rothschild and David Salomons who were eventually allowed to take the Oath while omitting the words " on the true faith of a Christian." ... On the following day, Erskine May and Bradlaugh himself were questioned by the Committee, with Bradlaugh arguing that, should the Committee decide he had no right to affirm, he would take the oath and regard it as binding on his conscience ...
[ THE DEMOCRATS WERE OUT TO DAMN THE REPUBLICAN : THE ARGUMENT DRAGGED ON ] ... Bradlaugh was permitted to address the House from behind the Bar ( which was technically outside the Chamber,) and treated the occasion as his maiden speech. He based his argument on law, contending that he was not legally disqualified, and asking "as one man against six hundred" for the same justice he would receive in the Courts ...

... At that point Bradlaugh was summoned back to the table to be told the outcome of the debate; having relayed it, the Speaker then ordered him to withdraw. Bradlaugh " respectfully refused " to obey an order of the House which was " against the law." The Conservative leader Sir Stafford Northcote successfully moved a motion that Bradlaugh be required to withdraw ( agreed on a division by 326 to 38, Liberal MPs being unwilling to challenge a motion which sustained the House's legal authority ) but Bradlaugh " positively refused to obey." The Serjeant-at-Arms was sent for and led Bradlaugh out to the Bar of the House, but Bradlaugh then immediately returned to the table claiming to take the Oath. At this Sir Stafford Northcote moved that Bradlaugh be taken into custody. The House agreed, on a division by 274 votes to 7 and Bradlaugh was taken to the small prison cell located under Big Ben in the Clock Tower. Lord Randolph Churchill roused the Conservatives by leading resistance to Bradlaugh ... Because Members had to take the oath before being allowed to take their seats, he effectively forfeited his seat in Parliament ...

... His seat fell vacant and a by-election was declared. Bradlaugh was re-elected by Northampton four times in succession as the dispute continued ... On at least one occasion, Bradlaugh was escorted from the House by police officers. In 1883 he took his seat and voted three times before being fined £1,500 for voting illegally. A bill allowing him to affirm was defeated in Parliament ... In 1886 Bradlaugh was finally allowed to take the oath, and did so at the risk of prosecution under the Parliamentary Oaths Act. Two years later, in 1888, he secured passage of a new Oaths Act, which enshrined into law the right of affirmation for members of both Houses, as well as extending and clarifying the law as it related to witnesses in civil and criminal trials ( the Evidence Amendment Acts of 1869 and 1870 had proved unsatisfactory, though they had given relief to many who would otherwise have been disadvantaged.) ...
[ AND THE DEMOCRATS IN WALES, ENGLAND, SCOTLAND AND NORTHERN IRELAND ARE STILL HOSTILE TO REPUBLICANS - THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE STATE IN THE UNITED KINGDOM ] ...

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ONE IN FIVE ADULTS IDENTIFY THEMSELVES IN POLLS AS " REPUBLICAN " IN ENGLAND AND WALES ... WHICH MEANS THAT A SUCCESSFULLY FORMULATED REPUBLICANISM IN WALES WHICH COULD ADDRESS THEIR SENSIBILITIES WOULD CONSISTENTLY OBTAIN 500,000 - 600,000 VOTES IN WALES - WHICH MIGHT TRANSLATE INTO TWELVE SEATS IN THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY IN WALES - AND ENOUGH LOCAL COUNCILLORS ELECTED TO BREAK THE STRANGLEHOLD WHICH THE LABOUR AND COOPERATIVE PARTY HAS ON THE COUNTY COUNCILS - BUT HOW CAN WE FOUND SUCH A PARTY IN THE NON-POLITICAL SYSTEM OF THE UNITED KINGDOM WHERE PARTIES NEED VAST SUMS OF MONEY IN ORDER TO CONTEST ELECTIONS - AND THUS NEED WEALTHY DONORS FROM THE CORPORATIONS AND UNIONS TO FUND THEM - WHO IN TURN DEMAND POLICIES AND MANIFESTOS TO BE DRAUGHTED IN THEIR PRIVATE INTERESTS INSTEAD OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST - THUS ESTRANGING MILLIONS OF VOTERS AND DESTROYING THE DEMOCRATIC CLAIM TO A MANDATE - E.G. WHEN THE GOVERNMENT IN WALES IS PERMANENTLY THE LABOUR AND COOPERATIVE PARTY WHO GET ELECTED TO HALF OF THE SEATS IN THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY IN WALES ON A " DEMOCRATIC MANDATE " OF PERMANENTLY LESS THAN TWENTY PERCENT OF THE AVAILABLE VOTES : THE DEMOCRATS IN THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY IN WALES HAVE BEEN - IN TERMS OF THEIR OWN CLAIM TO A MANDATE - POLITICALLY BANKRUPT FOR TWENTY YEARS ...

RECENTLY THE REGISTRATION OFFICERS OF THE LEGALLY RECOGNISED POLITICAL PARTIES IN THE UNITED KINGDOM - JUST BEFORE AN ELECTION - DECIDED TO REVOKE THE REGISTRATION OF THE DEMOCRATIC REPUBLICAN PARTY IN ENGLAND ON THE GROUNDS THAT ITS NAME WAS TOO SIMILAR TO ANOTHER PARTY : A PHANTOM PARTY THAT THEY COULD NOT PRODUCE ANY OTHER EVIDENCE FOR BESIDES ITS REGISTRATION DOCUMENT - THE D.R.P. WAS FORCED TO RE-REGISTER AS " SOVEREIGN REPUBLIC " - AN OXYMORON IN MY OPINION - AND CHANGE ITS SYMBOLS ETC : THIS COST THEM YEARS OF WORK AND THOUSANDS OF POUNDS AND DESTROYED THEIR ESTABLISHED POLITICAL IDENTITY - AND THIS HAPPENED JUST BEFORE THE GENERAL ELECTION IN WHICH THEY HAD RAISED MONEY TO STAND CANDIDATES ... THAT CAN NOT HAVE HAPPENED BY CHANCE ... Y REPWBLIC IS NOT A POLITICAL PARTY BUT A CREATIVE WRITING PROJECT IN WHICH WE PUBLICLY EXPRESS OURSELVES AS REPUBLICANS ... AND OCCASIONALLY ACTUALLY DO A BIT OF POLITICS ...

... Y REPWBLIC'S WEBSITES ARE BIGGER IN TERMS OF FILE SIZE THAN ALL OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTIES WEBSITES IN THE UK TOTALLED TOGETHER - WE WERE UNEXPECTEDLY SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF OUR INTERNATIONAL AUDIENCE AND THESE WERE VALUED AT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A FEW YEARS AGO - SOON AFTER WE OPENLY DISCUSSED DRAWING A REVENUE STREAM FROM OUR WRITINGS - THE CONTENTS OF OUR EMAIL ACCOUNT WERE ERASED WHICH COULD HAVE STOPPED US FROM BEING ABLE TO ADMINISTER OUR WEBSITES - GOOGLE.CO.UK WAS MANIPULATED TO MAKE OUR WEBSITES INVISIBLE WITHIN THE UNITED KINGDOM - VIRUSES WERE PLANTED WITHIN OUR WEB PAGES - RECENTLY THE FILE SYSTEM OF THE ADMINISTRATION WITHIN Y REPWBLIC WAS DESTROYED MAKING A SAVE IMPOSSIBLE AND PREVENTING SEARCH ENGINES FROM " SEEING " Y REPWBLIC - AND THE FRONT PAGE OF Y REPWBLIC WAS LEFT DECLARING THAT THE FORUM IS LOCKED WITH ITS CONTENTS INDEX NOW HIDDEN - AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT OUR WORK OF TWELVE YEARS WILL SOON BE FINALLY DESTROYED WITHOUT A TRACE OR RECORD OF IT LEFT ...

... Y REPWBLIC DOES NOT ONLY HAVE A VIRTUAL EXISTENCE - WE DO NOT OFTEN FIND OPPORTUNITIES TO DISCUSS CONSTITUTIONAL MATTERS WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN WALES BUT WE DO TRY TO TALK TO THEM ON SUITABLE OCCASIONS AND THEIR RESPONSES TO OUR IDENTIFYING OUR POLITICS AS REPUBLICAN ARE GENERALLY OPENLY HOSTILE AND WHEN NOT TURNING THEIR BACKS AND REFUSING TO TALK TO US - POLITICS IS AFTER ALL ABOUT PARLEY-MENT : EVIDENCE THAT THE UNITED KINGDOM IS A NON-POLITICAL SYSTEM - WHEN THEY HAVE TO TALK TO US IN E.G. A COMMITTEE THEY JUST SPEND THEIR TIME IN ATTACKING US PERSONALLY FOR BEING REPUBLICANS INSTEAD OF ADDRESSING OUR FACTS AND ARGUMENTS - POLITICS IS AFTER ALL ABOUT DISCUSSING THE BASIS OF DECISIONS AND VOTING IS THEREFORE NOT A POLITICAL ACT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT DO THIS EITHER IN THE BALLOT BOX OR IN THE LOBBIES IN PARLIAMENT - OH ! - AND WHEN WE MAKE WRITTEN SUBMISSIONS WHICH ARE IDENTIFIED AS REPUBLICAN THE DEMOCRATS REFUSE TO PUBLICISE THE FACT THAT REPUBLICANS CONTRIBUTE TO THE PUBLIC DISCOURSE - AND SUPPRESS THESE ...

... HENCE WHEN WE CONTRIBUTE ITEMS TO THE BROADCAST MEDIA THEY EITHER SUPPRESS THEM BECAUSE THEY MENTION REPUBLICANISM OR REFUSE TO IDENTIFY THE AUTHOR AS A REPUBLICAN OR USE SOME PART OF THEM WITHOUT EXPLAINING THAT THEY HAVE HAD A REPUBLICAN CONTEXT - I WAS TOLD TO REMOVE A BADGE DECLARING " Y REPWBLIC " FROM MY LAPEL WHEN I APPEARED IN A LARGE TELEVISION PANEL IN Y SENEDD AND THE BBC POINTEDLY DID NOT ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS TO ME ABOUT THE ACTUAL REPUBLICAN VIEW OF THE ROYAL FAMILY BUT ALLOWED IGNORANT PERSONS CLAIMING TO BE REPUBLICANS DECLARE THAT REPUBLICANISM IS ANTI-MONARCHISM - MY CONTRIBUTIONS TO BBC RADIO FOUR ARE NOW OBVIOUSLY DISCARDED BECAUSE MY NAME IS ATTACHED TO THEM AND THEY CAN NOT HAVE ANY REAL REPUBLICANS ON THE BBC BECAUSE IT IS BBC POLICY TO PORTRAY US IN THE TERMS DICTATED TO THEM BY THE DEMOCRATS IN WALES AND WESTMINSTER - ANTI-MONARCHIST, ANTI-ENGLISH, ANTI-RULE OF LAW - AND IF WE TRY TO BOOK VENUES TO EXPLAIN REPUBLICANISM IN PUBLIC MEETINGS THEN THE PROPRIETORS FIND THEMSELVES BEING " ADVISED " ... AND YOU THINK THAT ANY OR ALL OF THAT SORT OF THING IS BAD ? ...

... MY POLITICAL HOBBY RANGES OVER THREE THOUSAND YEARS OF THE REPUBLICAN TRADITIONS IN POLITICS - AND VERY FEW REPUBLICANS PRIOR TO THE SEVENTEENTH CENTURY APPROVED OF THE DEMOCRATS IN THE REPUBLIC - HAVING SEEN WHAT I HAVE SEEN OVER THE PAST FORTY ONE YEARS SINCE I WROTE MY FIRST LETTER IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST - I CAN SEE WHY THEY LOATHED THE DEMOCRATS BECAUSE NOW I DO TOO - I DO NOT VIEW VOTING AS A POLITICAL ACT BUT RATHER AS AN ANTI-POLITICAL ACT - AND SINCE WE ARE TOLD BY THE DEMOCRATS THAT WE MUST VOTE FOR THEM AND THEREBY SURRENDER TO THEIR POWER OVER US BY THUS ENDORSING THE NON-POLITICAL SYSTEM IN THE UNITED KINGDOM I HAVE ALWAYS OBJECTED TO VOTING AS THE BASIS FOR POLITICS - IT IS NOT : POLITICS IS A DECISION MAKING PROCESS AND VOTING IS THE MEANS OFFERED TO OPT OUT OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO COLLECT FACTS AND MAKE ARGUMENTS WHICH IS THE ACTUAL BASIS OF POLITICS - THE PEOPLE IN ELECTIONS OPT OUT IN FAVOUR OF THOSE WHO OFFER TO REPRESENT THEM - THE REPRESENTATIVES IN VARIOUS POLITICAL INSTITUTIONS OPT OUT IN FAVOUR OF THOSE WHO OFFER TO LEAD THEM - IN BALLOTS AT ALL LEVELS OF THE NON-POLITICAL SYSTEM IN THE UNITED KINGDOM THE PEOPLE AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES OPT OUT IN FAVOUR OF FACTIONS AND ALIGNMENTS - OPT FOR FICTIONS AND MALIGNANTS - AND DO NOT ACCEPT FACTS AND ARGUMENTS AS THE ACTUAL BASIS OF POLITICS - I THEREFORE OPTED OUT OF DEMOCRACY ... I OPTED INTO REPUBLICANISM AS IT WAS IN C1650 ...

... THIS DOES NOT OF COURSE MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO MY POLITICAL BEHAVIOUR - I AM OPTING OUT OF THE FAKE POLITICS INTO THE REAL POLITICS - I CONTINUE TO CONDUCT MY WRITING IN Y REPWBLIC AND IN OCCASIONAL LETTERS FOR OTHER POLITICAL PURPOSES AS BEFORE - BUT IT HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE TO THE POLITICAL BEHAVIOUR OF THE DEMOCRATS IN WALES AND WESTMINSTER BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO PUT ME IN A COURTROOM FOR DEFYING THE ELECTORAL REGISTRATION AND ADMINISTRATION ACT 2013 BY REFUSING TO ENDORSE THE THEFT OF MY NAME AND ITS FRAUDULENT SUBSCRIPTION TO THE ELECTORAL REGISTER BECAUSE I OBJECT BOTH TO DEMOCRACY AND TO BEING MISREPRESENTED AS ENDORSING THE NON-POLITICAL SYSTEM IN THE UNITED KINGDOM - I STRONGLY OBJECT TO MY PROPERTY IN MY NAME BEING ATTACHED TO MY PERSON AND THEREFORE NOT THEIR PROPERTY TO ABUSE AS THEY WISH - WHICH IS TO ABUSE IT ON THEIR ELECTORAL REGISTER TO REPRESENT ME ENDORSING THE NON-POLITICAL SYSTEM IN THE UNITED KINGDOM WHEN I STRONGLY OBJECT TO THE BEHAVIOURS OF THE DEMOCRATS IN WALES AND WESTMINSTER ... WHICH BEHAVIOURS ? ... ALL OF THOSE CONTRARY TO DE RES PUBLICA ...

THE SOVEREIGNTY IS IN THE LAW - THE LAW PREDATED AND CREATED THE CROWN, THE PARLIAMENT AND THE PEOPLE : ALL HAVE CONTENDED FOR CONTROL OF THE LAW IN ORDER TO SUBSTITUTE THEIR OWN PRIVATE INTERESTS FOR THE PUBLIC INTEREST OF WHICH THE LAW IS OUR ONLY AGREED ACCOUNT - BUT REPUBLICANS DISAGREE WITH THAT ACCOUNT AS IT NOW STANDS BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF THE LAW IS TO INTERVENE IN NON-CONSENTING RELATIONSHIPS AND EITHER END THEM OR RESTORE THEM TO CONSENTING RELATIONSHIPS - YET WE NOW HAVE LAWS WHICH ARE IMPOSING NON-CONSENTING RELATIONSHIPS UPON THE PEOPLE IN WALES AND THE WORLD - THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN THE RULE OF LAW HAS BEEN SUBVERTED BY PRIVATE INTERESTS PURSUED BY VARIOUS STRATEGIES - HIEROCRATIC, DEMOCRATIC, ARISTOCRATIC AND MONOCRATIC - BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE WHICH FACILITATES THE PERVERSION OF THE LAW IS THE INVERSION OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE STATE AND THE PEOPLE - THAT THE LAW NOW TREATS THE PEOPLE AS THE PROPERTY OF THE STATE BECAUSE THE RULE OF LAW WAS LONG AGO OVERTHROWN BY VARIOUS PRIVATE INTERESTS WHICH FOUGHT TO CONTROL THE NON-POLITICAL SYSTEM IN THE UNITED KINGDOM - TO CONTROL THE PEOPLE : BUT THE LAW BELONGS TO GOD - GOD ALONE IS SOVEREIGN - AND LAWS WHICH CREATE INJUSTICES INSTEAD OF REMEDYING INJUSTICES ARE NOT LAWS AT ALL : THE RULE OF LAW - OF JUSTICE - DEFINES DE RES PUBLICA AS THE WILL OF GOD - NOT THE WILL OF GOVERNMENTS ! - OK ?

TO PUT IT IN LESS MYTHIC TERMS : IN THE NON-POLITICAL SYSTEM IN THE UNITED KINGDOM THE JUDICIARY CAN NOT PROTECT THE PEOPLE FROM THE STATE - THE DEMOCRATS IN THE UNITED KINGDOM CLAIM THAT THE SOVEREIGNTY IS IN THE CROWN IN PARLIAMENT - THE DEMOCRATS IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA OFTEN CLAIM THAT THE SOVEREIGNTY IS IN THE PEOPLE ( BUT DE FACTO THE U.S.A. ACTUALLY BEGAN AS A SERIES OF HIEROCRATIC REPUBLICS IN WHICH THE DEMOCRATS OVERTHREW THE RULE OF THE HIEROCRATS AND WHILST STILL PAYING LIP-SERVICE TO GOD DECLARED THE SOVEREIGNTY OF THE PEOPLE ) - BUT IN THE U.S.A. THE MISRULE IN THE DEMOCRACY IS HELD IN CHECK BY THE BILL OF RIGHTS WHICH DEFENDS THE REPUBLIC WITH A SERIES OF LAWS WHICH DEFINE THE LIMITS OF THE LAWS WHICH THE DEMOCRATS IN GOVERNMENT CAN MAKE - WHILST THE DEMOCRACY IS A COUNTER-BALANCE TO THE REPUBLIC MAKING LAWS WITHOUT REGARD FOR THE PEOPLE ... THE CHAOS IN THE DEMOCRACY IS A REMEDY FOR THE NOMOS IN THE REPUBLIC ...

... THE SOVEREIGNTY IS PLACED IN THE LAW IN REPUBLICANISM IN ORDER TO PREVENT THE HIEROCRATS, DEMOCRATS, ARISTOCRATS, MONOCRATS ETC WHO OBTAIN INFLUENCE OVER OR CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE STATE FROM CLAIMING THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY MAKE A LAW THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT JUST - THIS IS MORE OR LESS EXACTLY THE PRINCIPLE WHICH THE AMERICAN WAR OF INDEPENDENCE WAS FOUGHT TO OPPOSE - BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY THE LEGALISM OF THE NON-ARGUMENT OF THE NON-PRINCIPLE OF THE NON-SOVEREIGNTY OF " THE NON-CROWN IN THE NON-PARLIAMENT " IN THE NON-UNITED KINGDOM ... ACTUALLY I THINK THAT BY LEAVING THE SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD OUT OF IT - SINCE HE NEVER ANSWERS OUR PRAYERS AND SO WILL NEVER ANSWER OUR SUMMONS - AND JUST JUXTAPOSING THEM - " SOVEREIGNTY " VERSUS " THE RULE OF LAW " - IT JUST MAKES IT MORE TIDY - " CHAOS " VERSUS " NOMOS " - AND THEN WE CAN JUXTAPOSE THE PRESENT CHAOS IN THE ENGLISH LAW WITH THE FUTURE NOMOS IN THE WELSH LAW - BUT FOR THAT WE WILL NEED THE WELSH COURT FIRST - WHICH MEANS THAT WE MUST NEED THE WELSH JURISDICTION NEXT ... WHICH MEANS THAT WE NEED TO GET RID OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY IN WALES - RIGHT NOW ! - ANY TIME NOW ... SOON ... PLEASE ... >sigh< ... ANOTHER USELESS RANT ? ... <yes>
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Subject: I have just been spotting Gethin and Sian and Cor Cochion Caerdydd and others on - http://www.redwatch.co.uk/wales/swanreds.html

I have just been spotting Gethin and Sian and Cor Cochion Caerdydd and others on - http://www.redwatch.co.uk/wales/swanreds.html

Perhaps we should invite Redwatch to Cilmeri as well - the more the merrier - on the basis that there is no such thing as bad publicity ?

But would Redwatch be able to cope with the idea of The Right in Wales meeting with and campaigning together with The Left in Wales ?

I am still hammering away at this thread - entertaining - but no enthusiasm so far for slinging together some kind of " Union Jack'd Coffin " gag.

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1549

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence

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From: sovereign wales
Sent: 30 November 2018 04:02
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Subject: Re: I have just been spotting Gethin and Sian and Cor Cochion Caerdydd and others on - http://www.redwatch.co.uk/wales/swanreds.html

Sounds like a good idea to invite them - never before has there been a better time to get people talking and discussing individual points on their own merit - the powers that be depend on polarised entrenched stances and people not not having civil discourse and constructive results-their whole system is mostly built on this paradigm in my view.

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To: sovereign wales
Subject: Re: I have just been spotting Gethin and Sian and Cor Cochion Caerdydd and others on - http://www.redwatch.co.uk/wales/swanreds.html

Dear Gruff

Can I stick that in as a reply to my email - published here - I can strip your email etc off it - unless you would like your name upon Y Repwblic ?

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=6931#6931 = roughly in the middle of = http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1549

I think that what I am doing with this thread - apart from it being a failing recruiting drive for Cilmeri - is concocting up a sort of selection box.

Something for everybody's taste - in all fruit and nut flavours - so they can conceptualise being part of the whole whilst remaining themselves.

You are aware of The People in Wales having changed their minds over Brexit ? ... Of the four nations Wales will obviously be the hardest hit ...

The Republic of Ireland has already ordered two new super-ferries and even if we could reverse Brexit they will not be un-investing in them.

The ferries to Ireland are going to lose most of their commercial trade in 2019 and they are not going to be profitable with just passenger trade.

We could lose the ferries in Pembroke and Fishguard as well but South Wales is not as dependent upon them as North Wales is upon Holyhead.

I think that if Brexit goes through as proposed then the North Wales economy will contract by over 10% and South Wales economy over 5% - ?

It is a vicious irony that it has taken over fifty years to get rid of the Severn Bridge tolls to relieve Wales of this extra tax burden on our economy.

As soon as we finally get a level playing field in The United Kingdom's economy by removing the bridge tolls on the lorries they cease coming ?

The whole infrastructure of motorways, dual carriageways and bridges for The Lorries in Wales will be charged to us yet were built for England !

The removal of The Severn Bridge Tolls in December 2018 had already started to effect the property prices in South East Wales by August 2018 ?

Plaid Cymru ought to be in fits over the prospect of perhaps a hundred thousand English immigrants moving into South East Wales - by 2030 ?

These are going to be younger married couples with children who can not afford the property prices in England : it is a demographic nightmare.

Y Senedd failed to properly analyse the consequences of these things : they had loads of time in The National Assembly and they squandered it.

We need to campaign for a properly functioning political system : whether in or out of The UK we need to re-establish Republicanism in Wales.

dai

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From: sovereign wales
Sent: 02 December 2018 02:55
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Dai, yes whatever works for you...
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