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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a lot spewing out of The Mouths of The Democrats ... but The Iron Mouth of Truth is still empty ... I am glad that Jeremy Corbyn is holding out for a leadership election because it will demonstrate the truth of what is going on inside The Labour Party : that there has been a party within that party for at least forty years, the real enemy within ( which they alleged that people like myself were because we innocently asked obvious questions of them in them back in the 1980s ) Jeremy is calling them out of the shadows and they will now be seen for what they are - anxious not to lose their fat cat salaries and opportunities to get seats on the board etc ... Meanwhile Theresa May has suddenly declared how much she feels for the plight of the poor i.e. The People Made Poor By The Conservative Party - surely not Thoeresa May ?

POST SCRIPT - THE RIGHT WING PRESS ARE SNEERING HYSTERICALLY AT JEREMY CORBYN FOR STANDING FIRM - BUT CONSIDER THIS FACT : MORE PEOPLE JOINED THE LABOUR PARTY IN 2015-16 JUST TO SUPPORT JEREMY CORBYN THAN THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY PRESENTLY HAVE MEMBERS ... THAT HIS RIVALS ARE OUT TO GET RID OF HIM BY CLAIMING THAT HE WILL LOSE THEM THE ELECTION IS RISIBLE : THERE IS NO OTHER POLITICIAN WITH SUCH PERSONAL POPULARITY - BECAUSE PEOPLE BELIEVE HIM TO BE HONEST ( OF COURSE AS A REPUBLICAN I BELIEVE THEM ALL TO BE INCOMPETENT LIARS.)


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are finding the it / this so difficult to give this / it good expression :_In The UK We have been crushed by years / seized by the years / of oppression_By The Democrats who thought that we would never say " NO ! "_Because they controlled us or so they thought so :_But now we are all / they're all suffering from) // But they must //We must might may be / are suffering from Post-Fatal Depression //Regression

Yeah ... I must try to knock that one into a better shape ... sometime ...

... mmm ... well that is apparently not going to work out ... everybody seems to be in a daze ... except Daf / Moritz who apparently voted for Brexit ... well he is certainly gloating over everbody else's distress .... but then so many right wing Nationalist Republicans feel that it is but one step to bringing power back towards Wales ... but Internationalust Republicans argue that you need to combine with others in some way in order to create political systems whose size is equal to the task : we are not " giving away our sovereignty " because " sovereignty " does not exist - only The Rule of Law can exist and if we want it we have to create the means and the resources to enforce the laws that we make. All that matters is that " The Rule of Law " does not become a pretence, that The State does not fall into the hands of those who would use it to pursue their private interests by disguising them as " The Public Interest."

Even if you do subscribe to it you have to understand that Democracy is not only not any guarantee of good decision making ( i.e. proper politics ) but that The Democrats in Wales and The World are practising yet another version of Ultraism, as has recently been demonstrated so well in The Welsh Assembly Election and The EU Referendum. It is entirely possible that The People in Wales and The World might be better off being ruled by Heirocrsts, Aristocrats or Monocrats ... but I recommend " Nomocracy " - " The Power of The Law " ... which is the correct and proper name of the politicd otherwise known as " Republicanism " or " Cosmopolitanism " ... and the particular version of it which I like is called " The Open Conspiracy " which emerged in the period between World War One and World War Two when Communists, Anarchists and Fascists were conspiring to coerce others to accept their politics - and of course those horrible Conservatives, Liberals and Socialists were coercing them back - and all hell thus broke loose ... and The People in Wales and The World died in their tens of millions as a consequence.

The European Union and The United Nations arose out of the post-war interpretations of the previous inter-war politics ... For a surviving example of that kind of political orgamisation in The Untied Kingdom try looking at the now rather moribund " Federal Union " - and for something even more archaic in its ideology try The ( British i.e. English ) Democratic Republican Party - whose 18c Whig stance is still far too radical for the supporters of The United Kingdom.


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http://www.federalunion.org.uk/uk/ --- http://www.federalunion.org.uk/about/

" ... The British system of government has for many years been one of the most centralised in Europe. Many more matters are decided at the national level than in Germany or Belgium, for example, where an effective level of regional government has been established. ... Recent years have seen steps towards regional government, notably in Scotland and Wales but also on a smaller scale in England. But treating regional and national authorities as representatives of Westminster rather than representatives of the people in the areas concerned does not really change very much. ... A federal system would be much better. ... " ... " ... Federalism divides political power between levels of government to achieve the best combination of democracy and effectiveness. It is not the bureaucratic centralisation of popular myth. ... "


http://democraticrepublicanparty.co.uk/

" ... A huge percentage of the British people are offended by the outright injustice of having a hereditary head of state ... The pernicious effect its undeserved privelege has on the whole of society from top to bottom is strongly felt. ... Republicanism is an ancient tradition. From the beginning its purpose was above all to prevent any leader having excessive power. The Republican solution to this problem was to separate power at the top so that no one individual could accumulate too much power. ... The other great Republican invention is to proclaim that the state does not consist of a person or an office. The constitution is the state. In republics citizens have a powerful sense of their constitution. It is the constitution that protects the people from authoritarianism. ... In Britain today we need more than ever that protection. Because of our lack of a republican constitution, successive Prime Ministers have assumed more and more dictatorial powers. As long ago as 1978 Lords Hailsham said that the office of Prime Minister is an "elective dictatorship". Since then things have worsened. ... As they have assumed more and more power, recent governments have ridden roughshod over the House of Commons. ... But don't imagine the British republic will be much like the US republic. Five big differences are discussed below ... The Democratic Republican Party is the party of constitutional change but it must be more than that. It must have a full set of policies to challenge the old defunct parties. ... We need a programme that recognises what is of immense value in our society and seeks to refashion it according to the republican principles of virtue, freedom, opportunity, prosperity and peace. ... "


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Now I can not help but wonder why there should be so many programmes providing good relevant information AFTERWARDS - when The EU Referendum was conducted over several weeks in which there was no good information being preached from the pulpit of The Big Bible Church - which has completely re-written its scriptures over the past week to explain why " Leave " was obviously naturally rightfully the " winner "... Anyway - please listen to today's Radio 4 " In Our Time " and you will quickly come to understand why I am arguing that " Sovereignty " does not exist - it was an attribute of God in Theology which was " stolen " by Popes and then Kings to claim the authority to rule as God's deputies on earth ... In other words it was and is a device to explain why a Monocrat or any other kind of rat can claim to be above The Rule of Law e.g. The Democrats in Westminster claim it for themselves - and that is why Republicans are not per se against The Rpyalty except when they are used to maintain the claim that The Aristocrats whose non-political system The United Kingdom is used to oppress us can excuse themselves any responsibility for their crimes by citing " Sovereignty."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07hj0q8 - The Briefing Room : Immigration - why did it rise ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006sz6t - The Bottom Line : Life After Brexit

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07hhvxx - In Our Time : Sovereignty


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear People in Wales - please do not dismay :_I only want the best for you and so I'd like to say_That I sympathise with your misery - for I know that I'm to blame -_But I am asking you to vote for me - and I do so without shame_Your Humbug Servant - Theresa May = dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence

Dear People in Wales - please do not dismay :_
I only want the best for you and so I'd like to say_
That I sympathise with your misery - for I know that I'm to blame -_
But I am asking you to vote for me - and I do so without shame_
Your Humbug Servant - Theresa May

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Subject: I would like you to draw attention to the fact that Jeremy Corbyn is not behaving perversely but acting upon a sound political basis.

Dear ( journalists )

I would like you to draw attention to the fact that Jeremy Corbyn is not behaving perversely but acting upon a sound political basis.

JEREMY CORBYN HAS MORE LABOUR PARTY SUPPORTERS THAN THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY HAS MEMBERS -

http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN05125

The opportunity for Donald Trump to pay to be The President arose out of a change in the rules for corporate political funding.

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2016-17/politicalpartiesfundingandexpenditure.html

I THINK THAT " BREXIT " WAS FUNDED BY JUST A HANDFUL OF BANKERS : OUR RULES ARE TOTALLY INADEQUATE !

" BTW " Have you noticed that whilst their Parliament has fallen apart - The People have not ... so not as important as they tell us ?

Earlier I sent the message below to XXXX - but you might also enjoy a further " proem / texterick / textertrick/ pwnco " or two about - !

[ SOME OF THE PROEMS ABOVE ]

David B Lawrence

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36672797/what-a-difference-a-week-makes-how-britain-has-changed

I have had no time to read this past several days - it is difficult to decide what to focus on, and why give any of these liars and emotional manipulators the attention which they crave ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36618738

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36677028

It was necessary for me to give Boris the shove -_
And I fully admit that we've worked hand in glove -_
But there's another old friend whose got under my skin_
For if I now work for Rupert - he will back me to win :_
Then you will all know me - as " Michael : New Gov ! "

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNsxCU0glHw - The Daily Show - Brexit Breakdown

Ouch ... so how many who voted " Leave " were just protest voting against the political system ... and how many are going to protest against the political system by voting for Trump ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r5P1z4OWWo - Oh Shit, Brexit | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8NdQrGljHM - John Oliver - Trump on Brexit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6HAvDrphuQ - Britain LEAVING the EU: EXPLAINED (mostly)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAu8gbAttXE - Channel 4 News - Brexit special edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_A7BsqT_Mg - What Brexit Means for the U.K. and the World (With All Due Respect - 06/24/16)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQn3h1foScQ - Brexit fallout may tear both UK and EU apart - Ken Livingstone (RT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoyM-g1DS4U - EU Referendum ... The Plan to DESTROY the UK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJVulpF9vBA - David Icke EU Referendum Interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuLKAq3C9q8 - DAVID ICKE ISLAM INVASION

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuUFfI_GN0w - DAVID ICKE ON DONALD TRUMP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS7FgM8F1xc - David Icke - The Moon & The Reptilians Hidden In Plain Sight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBwxly8332E - David Icke The Fabian Society & The Global Conspiracy

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... So Brexit " as such was not a bad thing we should start campaigning for "Wexit " to get out of this political union ... and The Welsh Nationalists who think in terms of just trying to grab " power " for themselves often agree with David Icke because they are politically illiterate as a result of the supporters of The United Kingdom mis-educating them in trying make them into obedient subjects who both expect and are expected to vote as they are told by those claiming to possess authority over them. This is the cause of what always goes wrong in a non-political system like The United Kingdom which suppresses diverse political views because they arise at the margins of society where they are evidence of the distress being caused by the incompetent decision making of a dysfunctional government. The People in Wales are not used to questioning authority so they lack the normal ways of doing so critically which are so familiar to those in real political systems- i.e. not in The United Kingdom - hence when this non-political system fails them they do not say to each other " Oh - how do we get together to pool our knowledge and experience, to collectively debate our facts and arguments, in order to solve this problem ? " but instead start looking for another person asserting that they are possessed of authority - saying " We are incompetent - we believe this because The Democrats tell us so - and they tell us therefore to do as they tell us to do and therefore to believe in Democracy ( - whatever that means, but we must agree to say so - because if we say that to say this is merely superstitious behaviour and that we are The Republicans in Wales - as in England - as in Scotland - and as in Northern Ireland - then The Democrats in Wales will say that we are criminals and will send to us The South Wales Police without a warrant to kick our doors down and beat us up and trash our homes and terrorise our wives and children ... ) ...

... and so we must vote for The Democrats in Wales - but not for The Other Democrats in Wales because that would surely also be crime - and so we must vote for The Right Sort of Democrats or we will never be finally be able to live in The Free Society which all of The Democrats in Wales have promised to us - a land where we will never again have to work for wages less than it is possible to live on - ( - but The Very Kind Lovely Democrats Are So Kind That They Give Us Welfare Instead of Wages And They Give Us Free Food That Is Out Of Date And Let Us Buy The Cheap Food Which Has Been Scraped Off The Abattoir Floor - ) - and we will no longer have to live in debt bondage and sell our children to The State in order to have their debts due to educating them marked down for re-sale wholsesale to The City of London ... and This is why Republicanism does not suppress the political and religious opinions of those who disagree with " The Will of The People " because it conceives of the " Res Publica " in terms of " The General Will " where the facts and arguments brought into The Public Conversation by those minorities marginalised and oppressed by mainstream majorities have political authority because they contain information : politics is a decision making process which is only as good or as bad as the information that it uses ...

... It is true that the emotions of a majority constitute a fact but that is like 100,000 football supporters passionately expressing their desire for their team to win : it does not make a jot of difference because The Referee decides the outcome according to The Rules of The Game - as The Judge decides the outcome according to The Laws of The Jurisdiction ... those who invade the pitch trying to kill the participants because the outcome of The Game is not to their liking are not football supporters but football hooligans - likewise Thomas Mair who killed Jo Cox MP was a political hooligan ... or perhaps arguably a political fanatic, because hooligans generally speaking look for a pretext for a fight and will turn up to any sort of contended thing in the hope of finding rival hooligans who will consent to fight : therein lies the origins of The Democrats ... you do not believe me ? ... Look back into The History of Politics in Wales and long before working-class men were enfranchised it was a " sport " to go to elections to " support " rival candidates by sporting their rival colours and picking fights with those whose colours differed : the worst place for this " sport " was apparently The Borough of Carmarthen where it escalated from sporadic fights in the 17c into rioting in the 18c up into fully organised warfare in the 19c. The recent murder of Jo Cox MP however bears a closer resemblance to the assassination of Prime Minister Spencer Perceval ... and if I may now speak personally - without anybody feeling threatened - I find that I can easily identify with John Bellingham because the non-political system which was driving him into insanity in 1812 is still with us - and still harming The People in Wales and The World ... ( I spent several years of my childhood living not far from where he lived as a child.)


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6UBG4BaIys - Spencer Perceval ( 1762-1812 )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSghOQXZ7uI - 17th Prime Minister: Spencer Perceval (1809-1812)

[ Centrist Philosopher is a homespun everyman from Northern Ireland who makes some useful sorts of videos - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQmQF7Wv-LmcokVGXhOeyRg - like - ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi5JVUbPo8k - Brexit : Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bellingham - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Perceval

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Emq9mMj86s - iLiKETRAiNS - Spencer Perceval

iLiKETRAiNS welcomed in 2007 with a spectacular nine and half minute release, reciting the story of the only successful assassination of a British Prime Minister, 'Spencer Perceval,' in 1812. The song is written from the perspective of murderer John Bellingham with the accompanying track, 'I am Murdered,' being sung from that of Spencer himself. Both tracks were produced by the band late 2006 in the first recording session for their debut album. Published on Jun 6, 2013


LOOKS ENTERTAINING ( ISH ) IF YOU HAVE CAN SUSPEND YOUR ( ... ER... WHATEVER ... ) FOR TWO HOURS
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWVUZbrfY0w#t=108.985208 - THREE YEARS A PRIME MINISTER - The Remarkable Times of Spencer Perceval : Geoff Buckingham's historic play about Spencer Perceval - and the turbulent times during which he served as Prime Minister.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ought to point out that " Y Repwblic " is not a news service - many things pass without any comment : this is still as billed - " Converstions with Wales' Republicans " - but it has now become something else ... basically we don't care and therefore Repwblic reflects our real life behaviour - we talk as we talk, we are as we are ... however -

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/27/its-time-to-put-welsh-independence-on-agenda-leanne-wood ... Monday 27 June 2016 18.46 BST Last modified on Thursday 30 June 2016

It's time to put Welsh independence on agenda – Leanne Wood - Plaid Cymru leader says EU referendum vote has changed everything – and ‘redesigning’ UK is the only option

" ... Leanne Wood said Brexit was an opportunity to break free from the UK – and though Wales voted overwhelmingly to leave the EU she argued that its citizens would think again if the country became independent. ... Plaid has long advocated independence for Wales but seen it as a long-term aspiration rather than a short-term goal. Brexit has altered that. ... Wood said: “Last Thursday’s vote has changed everything. In all likelihood, with Scotland voting to remain, the UK will cease to exist in the near future. Northern Ireland will be considering its future too. ... “Even though this situation was not of our making, Plaid Cymru believes that redesigning the current UK is the only option. A new union of independent nations working together for the common good. ... “It is my belief that this independent Wales in a completely different context to last week’s referendum would want to be a part of the European Union. ... "


OK ... THAT SOUNDS LIKE LEANNE HAS BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT I HAVE ARGUED - THAT SUCCESSFUL POLITICAL SYSTEMS MAP HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS ( WHICH IS THE BETTER REASON FOR WHY WALES OUGHT TO REMAIN IN THE EUROPEAN UNION - OUR SOCIETY IS PART OF THE CONTINUOUS FABRIC OF ALL HUMANITY ... WHICH IS NOT THE SAME AS THE MIDDLE CLASS ADVOCATING THAT IMMIGRATION IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE THEY PROFIT FROM IT IN SO MANY WAYS WHILST WORKING CLASS PEOPLE PAY FOR IT IN SO MANY WAYS - AND NOTE PLEASE THAT IT IS THE MIDDLE CLASS WHO NOT ONLY LECTURE US ABOUT RACISM WHO ARE EXPLOITING FOREIGNERS IN THIS WAY BUT WHO ALSO COMPLAIN VIGOROUSLY WHEN ANY FOREIGNERS MOVE INTO THEIR NEIGHBOURHOODS ...

... I reckon that if The People in Wales had a normally demographic profile then like The People in Scotland we would have voted for " Remain " - but our demographics are all skewed by retired middle class English pensioners - no retired working class English pensioners are going to have the means to retire to a bungalow by the sea in Wales - and their political opinions are not only reactionary because of their age group as is being complained of in England but they have as middle class voters been life-long Conservative and Unionist supporters. In other words these English incomers do not retire to Scotland because Wales is convenient to pop back and visit their grandchildren - but they have taken it upon themselves to decide the fate of our grandchildren when they have no more social connection with those surrounding themselves than those English incomers who have retired to Spain : now think of the outrage there would be in Spain if the incomers there - which in many places outnumber the natives - decided that it was their right to determine the future of Spain for the native population ... GET IT ? ...


... Which leads us to a demographic problem which The Democrats in Westminster have not admitted to : it is not just that there are lots of migrants from The European Union AND a lot of other countries coming here for short spells of work - which superficially seems mutually beneficial - but that most of them are young people from cultures where they still get married and have children in their early twenties - ( and I think that our young people should be doing the same because our society is being grotesquely distorted by treating both native and immigrant as opportunities to exploit poor people ) - and they are having children here in Wales - ( and of course England, Scotland and Northern Ireland ) - and those children are automatically being given UK citizenship ... Now it may well be the case that such young families make some money and go home before these children ever attend school etc - but they hold UK citizenship and can in turn return in twenty years time ...and apparently they have started doing so already ...

... It is not a problem restricted to that scenario though : the heart of the problem lies in the nature of The United Kingdom - that this non-political system was designed in 1688 for the purposes of The Aristocrats and therefore everything in it serves the wealthy who do not want to pay taxes on their unearned income from overseas investments and yet also want the unearned benefits of UK citizenhip. As was the case of The Aristocrats in The American Colonies in 1775 ... ( - who would never have agreed to The Democrats' idea of The United States of America - as explained by that upstart immigrant Tom Paine who did not even possess any of their land which he now took up a musket to defend - if The Aristocrats in America had not handed out so many muskets to The People in Their Colonies - ) ... their possession of UK citizenship was and still is literally dependent upon how much money it costs to purchase it ...

... For example UKIP's proposed points system has been designed for the benefit of wealthy immigrants who will supposedly bring The People Who Are Poor some more benefits - but without bringing them any welfare ... for we will all remain on welfare benefits whilst these same wealthy people will be paying no taxes to support us on them whilst driving up the cost of living ... and so as for the idea of " Meritocracy " - " The Power in The Merit " - ! - that goes out of the window, because whilst in The 19c there was a rigid class perception in Wales there was no rigid class ceiling for the hard working and talented - yet the anticipated social mobility for The People in 21c Wales is now essentially downwards : Welsh Political Society in particular lacks opportunities - whilst abounding in opportunists ... " WPS ! "


.. The given cause for the supposed reaction against " Remain " in The EU Referendum was the widespread complaint against The Democrats in Wales that they do not listen, that this was an angry protest vote which treated this as a by-election - a chance to hit back against an elitist political establishment etc ... But it is not just that The Democrats in Wales do not bother to listen but that The People in Wales do not bother to speak ... nor is the grumbling by both sides in this disaffection towards each other but a total incomprehension : only a fraction of 1% of them have any idea about what politics actually is and I reckon that only 1% even bother - ever - to try to do any politics at all - and in not knowing what to do they throw a tantrum afterwards and blame the politicians ... and they ought to - because failure to understand what politics is and how to do it is excusable for those who blunder into having to do it with no education in citizenship at all ... but for those who have chosen to be professional politicians to fail to understand what politics is and how to do it is utterly not excusable ! ...

... So to try to remedy the situation described above - a basic lesson in politics : if what you are campaigning for consists solely in propagating an ideology then what you are doing is " religion " and it is simply not the business of The State to enforce your ideologies ... On the other hand however, if your religious moralising has any real ethical implications which result in wanting to do things which have economic consequences then what you are campaigning for is a political objective. ... Here then is way to try to characterise the two basic sides of The Public Conversation : if you are all about words and beliefs systems then you are essentially a religious person - if you are all about numbers and balance sheets then you are essentially a political person : Republicanism states that Religion must not dictate Politics but equally Politics must not dictate Religion - this is the principle of " The Separation of The Church and The State " which is to ensure that The Public Conversation between Morality and Ethicality can not be suppressed, controlled nor stopped in the way that the supporters of The Dis-United Kingdom keep trying to do - having celebrated but not understood King Canute's advice as to the nature of The Natural Law - " The Nomos." The Medieval Scholars essentially taught this idea of the separation of - but mutual interaction between - Religion and Politics by dividing their standard course of education in The Medieval University into two halves - The Trivium* was about words and The Quadrivium* was about numbers - and these were what underpinned the Renaissance Republicanism(s) ( c1450 - 1650 ) whose ideological bases were generally theological in character.


Cool

* " The Trivium " was basically the syllabus of " The Bachelor of Arts " i.e. " The First Degree " about when Renaissance ( Religious ) Republicanism began to be discussed - and * " The Quadrivium " was basically the syllabus of " The Master of Arts " i.e. " The Second Degree " - whereas " The Doctorate of The Philosophy " was basically " The Third Degree " which sort of combined all of the contents of The First Degree and The Second Degree to sort of " work them through " to " perfection " - " A Perfect " was somebody possessed of a completely worked through belief system, to be regarded as someone Convinced of The True Faith - or alternatively somebody who ought to be Convicted of A False Belief ... most especially if The Holy Inquisition suspected you of not believing in The Hierocracy ... and so The People in Wales and The World had to believe in The Hierocrats in Wales and The World - but not in The Other Hieroocrats in Wales and The World because that would surely also be heresy - and so they had to believe in The Right Sort of Hierocrats or they would never be finally be able to live in The Holy Society which all of The Hierocrats in Wales had promised to them - a land where they would never again have to work for wages less than it was possible to live on - ( - but The Very Kind Lovely Hierocrats Were So Kind That They Give Them Welfare Instead of Wages And They Give Them Free Food That Was Out Of Date And Let Them Buy The Cheap Food Which Had Been Scraped Off The Abattoir Floor - ) - and we hoped to no longer have to live in debt bondage and sell their children to The State in order to have their debts due to educating them marked down for re-sale wholsesale to The City of London ... [ AND TO UNDERSTAND THAT GAG YOU HAVE TO READ THE POST ABOVE THIS ONE ... OR THE ONE ABOVE THAT ] ... Anyhow the secrets of The Third Degree can not be revealed by me - but you can look at this diagram of The Trivium and ... well ... a wink to the wise is as good as is something else ...



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trivium --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrivium
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I am supposed to be turning this thing off - this whole thing is turning me off ... but having gone to the kitchen to make yet another cold cup of coffee I found myself yelling myself hoarse at Michael Gove giving his whatever-it-is speech to launch his bid ...OH THANK THE DEITY - EVEN A FEW OF HIS SUPPORTERS HAVE BEGUN TO CLAP HIM MORE SLOWLY : HE IS EVEN MANAGING TO OFFEND THEM ... I have retreated back to the computer because I have shouted myself out of the kitchen in outrage : they really do not have a clue do they ... I am going to go for a walk ...to find a place to cry or throw up or ...

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Gosh - I do not even know what I meant by that last comment : I was seriously angry ... It is now 21.00 pm and Michael Gove has still not come to his senses : the man is deluded ...

... But the BBC also seems to be deluded today : their news is about anything but The News ... there are fifty six items on The Big Bible Church's front page of which there are - 13 sports features - 14 are about " popular culture " - 6 are about " British identity " ( 1 about being Muslim and British - 1 about being Black and British ) - 3 are about " Americans " - 4 about " Science or Technology " - 5 on " psychobabble " ... 1 on " innumeracy." ... I am beginning to wonder whether The BBC are beginning to lose their Moral Compass ... they certainly seem to be in a spin ... which probably means that we all are ... but then perhaps this is a sort of boon : The People in Wales have such short attention spans all that The Democrats in Wales have to do is wait until Monday and rely upon everybody having already forgotten that their country is ruined and they have no hope for the future - because their future has already been decided for them :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/tv ... http://www.itv.com/tvguide/ ... http://www.channel4.com/tv-guide ... http://www.s4c.cymru/c_listings.shtml ... http://www.tvguide.co.uk/
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I haven't a clue why The Democrats in Wales and Westminster get offended by my pouring scorn upon the whole lot of them - after all they say that The United Kingdom is a " free country " and I am merely joining in with their mutual hating competition - and winning ? - I mean, do we have to actually be elected in order to join in with this popular political activity which they periodically promote ? ... What I do not like about though - perhaps what The Democrats in Wales and Wedtminster have always refused to do ( or perhaps keep changing their rules like the wsy thst they keep trashing their laws ) - is that I do not understand how they score points off each other or indeed decide what the scores are and who has won ... ever ... Apparently we are now having a round of penalty kicks to decide The Conservative & Unionist Party leadership competition by sudden death ... it certainly looks that way ... if looks could kill ...

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As you might expect a lot of verbiage is being spewed out and there is not much point in adding anything to it except to point out that lots of banking issues are making an appearance : the comment by a prominent European minister about " Guernseyfication " now looks true - the proposal is to cut taxes for the rich again, specifically corporations to attract foreign investors ... making the economy of The United Kingdom parasitic upon the economies of countries which actually make useful things ...
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36742835

That is the sort of thing which happens when you have a non-political system dominated by Ultraists who hire Democrats to mimic political behaviour without responding to long-standing grievances which outrage The People. Perhaps The Big Bible Church will address this in this programme next week -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07l5wtd - After The Vote
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" This is the first of a series of special editions of Radio 4's long-running essay programme, A Point of View, in which five of Britain's leading thinkers give their own very personal view of "Brexit" - what the vote tells us about the country we are, and are likely to become." ... [ THESE ARE BEING BROADCAST AT 9.45 AM EACH MORNING THIS WEEK ON BBC RADIO 4 ]

... And I am just about to listen to Onora O'Neill again because she is more or less saying what I am saying - but in a posh accent and without any ####ing swearing ... on the other hand she must be living some sort of a secure existence because she clearly lacks the sense of humour which is deemed necessary by those of us being driven mad by the madding crowd of apologists manufacturing further excuses and explanations for The Democrats in Wales and Westminster who keep declaring their love for The People in Wales and The World - yet once again have slighted them to their faces ... so : who is going to be able to find a popular tune for the lyrics of the one-hit wonder - " When Will The People Ever Learn That The Democrats Really Do Not Love Them ? " - and please resist the idea of fictionalising their non-politics into some stupid story of true love such as portraying The Democrats being like Bathsheba Everdene and The People being Gabriel Oak in " Far From The Madding Crowd " ... After all The People are so obviously The Sheep who suffer a fate too bloody awful to describe in print having been driven first to the right and then to the left before they finally and suicidally hurl themselves in their distress and despair of having any other means to escape other than into the political abyss, their having been disoriented by The Barking Mad Dogs which were forever chasing them around in circles - which are so obviously The Democrats in Wales and The World ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRTq14mA4DA = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sprig_of_Thyme

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07l24cr

A Point of View - After the Vote : Episode 1 of 5 - Onora O'Neill

The philosopher Onora O'Neill criticises the standard of public debate on both sides of the European Union decision and asks how this democratic deficit can be repaired.

"The disarray that we now witness, and the retractions, revelations and recriminations that spill out on a daily basis, show that large parts of each campaign failed to communicate with the public, did not offer adequate or honest accounts of the alternatives, and did not provide the basic means for voters to judge the real options, the real opportunities or the real risks."


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I HOPE YOU WERE OK WITH OUR TURNING UP LIKE THAT : I OUGHT NOT TO LAUGH AT THESE HITLER PARODIES & I AM AGAINST UKIP =

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h2D8MB5s8Jg

[ I seriously do not approve of treating Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc as mere ciphers - any more than Churchill, Roosavelt, Kennedy etc : they are more like kites on the ends of strings - not as they claimed to be in control of events but controlled by them : I hope the reader notices that not only do I subscribe to the idea that everybody has the right to my contempt when I deem them to be immoral and unethical but that I do not mean " everybody else " ... those who think that politics is about getting what they themselves want are those I personally have had my fill of : every little local dictator who thinks that they know what others ought to do i.e. to gratify themselves ... These local psychotic neurotics who are so lacking in the ability to form social relationships with which to gratify themselves in a normal and healthy way that they use committee work as a substitute for social relationships and then make their ideologically driven plans to regulate the social relationships of others - and " The Others " described by the various ideologies ( ... as diagnosed by your friendly local Meta-Ideologists using schemes like The Ideo-Rational Analysis to encompass a suitable Operationalisationism to decide what their Nomocratical prescriptions for The Public Interest are this week ... ) are always the ones at fault - the ones to correct - the ones to blame for not being politically corrected - the ones to harass, prosecute, fine, jail, kill and finally to refuse to acknowledge were killed or to obsessively cite the killing of to justify killing some other kind of other ... which is the paranoid inverted racist sexist classist etc politics of Ultraism - the inversion of Altruism ! ]

YOU COULD EASILY READ THOSE CAMPAIGNING FOR " LEAVE " AS THE ULTRAISTS OF THE EUROPEAN UNION REFERENDUM - AND EIGHTY YEARS AGO IT MIGHT WELL HAVE BEEN OSWALD MOSLEY LEADING THE CAMPAIGN AND DOUBTLESS HE WOULD HAVE INVITED ADOLF HITLER OVER TO MAKE A SPEECH ABOUT HOW THE ENGLISH AS AN ARYAN RACE MUST DEFEND THESE SHORES FROM THOSE THREATENING THEM WITH STRAIGHTENED BANANAS - ABOUT HOW IT IS EVERY ARYANS DUTY TO DEFEND THEIR RACIAL PUERILITY BY SUBJUGATING THE INFERIOR RACES BY REFUSING TO EAT CURRY AND RE-OCCUPYING IRELAND AND EXPELLING ... ER ... ALL THOSE WHO PERSIST IN BEING IRISH ... AND THEN WE WOULD FINISH THE BUSINESS OF THE HUNDRED YEARS WAR AND TAKE BACK A DAMN ZEIT MORE THAN THAT - AND CALAIS ! - FROM THE FRENCH AND ... And then Hitler would probably soto voce at the top of his voice and with unsubtle gestures explain how to make The People in Wales, Scotland and England into proper Aryans ... and surely if this mad scenario had ever become true ... then we would all have ended up like Oliver Goldsmith ?
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Oh - in my inbox : I was not paying attention ...

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We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based a turnout less than 75% there should be another referendum.


Dear David B Lawrence,

The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “EU Referendum Rules triggering a 2nd EU Referendum”.

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The European Union Referendum Act received Royal Assent in December 2015, receiving overwhelming support from Parliament. The Act did not set a threshold for the result or for minimum turnout.

The EU Referendum Act received Royal Assent in December 2015. The Act was scrutinised and debated in Parliament during its passage and agreed by both the House of Commons and the House of Lords. The Act set out the terms under which the referendum would take place, including provisions for setting the date, franchise and the question that would appear on the ballot paper. The Act did not set a threshold for the result or for minimum turnout.

As the Prime Minister made clear in his statement to the House of Commons on 27 June, the referendum was one of the biggest democratic exercises in British history with over 33 million people having their say. The Prime Minister and Government have been clear that this was a once in a generation vote and, as the Prime Minister has said, the decision must be respected. We must now prepare for the process to exit the EU and the Government is committed to ensuring the best possible outcome for the British people in the negotiations.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36777494 - Brexit: Debate on second EU referendum after millions sign petition - TUESDAY CIRCA 5PM

An online petition that calls for a second EU referendum will be debated in Parliament after it was signed by more than 4.1 million people. ... The Petitions Committee said the debate would be on 5 September as a "huge number" had signed it. ... But the committee said the debate did not mean it was supporting the call for a second referendum and it was "too late" to change the referendum rules. ... The UK voted to leave the EU by 52% to 48% in the referendum on 23 June. ... The petition, set up on 25 May before the referendum, states: "We the undersigned call upon HM Government to implement a rule that if the Remain or Leave vote is less than 60%, based on a turnout of less than 75%, there should be another referendum." ... "A debate in Westminster Hall does not have the power to change the law, and won't end with the House of Commons deciding whether or not to have a second referendum... " It will be up to the government to decide whether it wants to start the process of agreeing a new law for a second referendum." >>>

>>> AND THERE IS A DEMONSTRATION OF WHERE IMAGINARY " SOVEREIGNTY " IS ACTUALLY LOCATED IN THE NON-POLITICAL SYSTEM NOT CALLED BY ITS SUPPORTERS THE DIS-UNITED KINGDOM - NOT IN THE CROWN, SO THE UK IS NOT A MONOCRACY - NOT IN THE PEOPLE, SO THE UK IS NOT A DEMOCRACY - NOT IN THE NEWS OR SOCIAL MEDIA - SUCH AS IN PETITIONS - SO THE UK IS NOT A HIEROCRACY - BUT IN THE PERSON OF THE PRIME MINISTER AS C.E.O. OF A BOARD OF DIRECTORS WHO ARE NOT ELECTED BUT SELECTED BY THE PRIME MINISTER ON BEHALF OF THE ARISTOCRATS WHICH THE DEMOCRATS SERVE : THE UK IS THEREBY DEMONSTRATED TO BE CONSTITUTIONALLY AN ARISTOCRACY - AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH WITHIN OUR SOCIETY IT HAS EXACTLY THAT PROFILE WHICH DEMONSTRATES IT TO BE ECONOMICALLY AN ARISTOCRACY : THE WEALTH IS IN FACT STILL MOSTLY IN THE HANDS OF THE ORIGINAL ARISTOCRATIC FAMILIES - AND APPARENTLY THEY HAVE BEEN INVESTING MOST OF IT IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - I.E. AFTER THE AMERICAN DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, WHEN THE USA BECAME IN EFFECT A BRITISH TAX HAVEN - AND AS A RESULT THE SOCIO-ECONOMIC PROFILE OF THE USA IS NOT ONLY MUCH LIKE THAT OF THE UK - IN EFFECT THE UNITED KINGDOM'S ARISTOCRATS HAD RECONQUERED THEIR AMERICAN COLONIES BEFORE 1900 - JUST IN TIME TO BE ABLE TO RE-ENLIST THE COLONIALS TO FIGHT FOR THEIR PROFITS AS THEY DID BEFORE 1776.


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Not sure of this yet ... but it fits with the news !

Britannia has rather lost her pride :_She's looking a mess & has let everything slide_So now off to Gwladys we have kindly//gently took//sent her -_To our political counsellor in The Republican Centre -_Who has sympathetically//gently inquired//asked " Have you considered - suicide ? " = dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence


Britannia has rather lost her pride :_
She's looking a mess & has let everything slide_
So it was off to Gwladys that we gently sent her -_
To our political counsellor in The Republican Centre -_
Who sympathetically inquired - " Have you considered - suicide ? "

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dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence


Britannia had rather lost her pride :_
She was looking a mess & had let everything slide_
So it was off to Gwladys that we gently sent her -_
To our political counsellor in The Repwblican Centre -_
Who sympathetically inquired - " Have you considered ... suicide ? "

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Britannia has rather lost her pride :_
She is looking a mess & has let everything slide_
Hence it was off to Gwladys that we gently sent her -_
To our political counsellor in The Republican Centre -_
Who sympathetically inquired - " Have you considered - suicide ? "

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The grim humour above became almost prescient in the following hours ... in my actual political life I spent yesterday ploughing through the litter of abandoned websites and old addresses and contact details for a nearly bankrupt insolvent company which changes its locations, phone numbers and emails at the drop of a hat ... I therefore rang a company that may be dealing with them and ended up with a couple of phone numbers - one engaged or off the hook for two hours, the other simply ringing ... so today I tracked them down in their ... corner office in one of Cardiff's most prestigious office blocks - and they were not in but I left them a note before trudging off to accost the well-paid official in Cardiff City County Council whose name was cited to me on Sunday as the author of the issue ... not in ... and now I must make an admission of fault : my encounters with the members and officers of the council have been becoming increasingly fraught decade by decade and this was my last errand before getting some lunch ... the moral of the story - or perhaps it is an ethic - is make sure that you eat and drink properly and rest a bit before you attend to this kind of stressful business undertaking ... and then you will not end up afterwards pathetically apologising to the helpful lady on the desk for having presented the matter in such an unnecessarily aggressive manner ...

... I am very angry about the amount of time and money this may cost me - the policy of the lawyers in Cardiff City County Council is to deny everything and thus leave their poll tax-payers to sue them, which is not only beyond the education and means for most but presents the litigants with the galling fact that they are paying for both sides of the court case ... those who persist in arguing and finally - before the six years of limitation are up - fork out the money for a modest simple DIY court case of an hour or so where the fees and court costs would be less than £1,000 ... will find Cardiff City County Council's lawyers swaggering into the County Court to load up the simple DIY court case with multiple complications in order to demand the complicated PRO multi-track where the professional fees and weeks of court costs could total more than £1,000,000 ... The only opponents which Cardiff City County Council's officers and members fear are those few remaining cases which obtain Legal Aid funding - but it would be foolish to write here about what Cardiff City County Council The Labour & Cooperative Party have been doing about that ... but what The Labour & Cooperative Party have been doing about The Parliamentary Labour Party today has been something to behold ... a lesson writ large about the lack of adherence to The Principles of Democracy by The Democrats in Wales and Westminster and Wallasey.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/angela-eagle-under-threat-deselection-wallasey-party-members-after-leadership-bid-1570011
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Well ... the news is that a lot has happened and this is not a news service ... only this morning we knew that Theresa May and now we know that Theresa Definitely Will ... and just dipping into the news I discover that Boris Johnson has been made Foreign Secretary and so I presume that The United Kingdom will be invading Poland tomorrow morning ( to pay them back for invading us ) ... but despite Boris' credentials as an historian I sort of doubt that he wants Calais back at the moment ... oh dear ... this looks bad ... very very bad ... on the other hand this lot look as if they are going to be so unpopular that the UUP and DUP will be leading the campaign for the re-unification of Ireland ...

... England's difficulty may be Ireland's - and Scotland's - opportunity ... but I do not think that this is an opportunity for Wales ... as I wrote on the other thread ( below ) this may be it ... Wales has effectively been bankrupt since the end of The Miners' Strike in 1984/5 and our economy basically consists of various levels of government dispensing various forms of welfare benefits, graduated from the miniscule amounts begrudgingly dispensed to those living under flyovers to the humungeous amounts joyously forced upon those living overseas ... as a consequence of The European Union we are going to lose billions of infrastructure grants and nobody should imagine that The United Kingdom is going to replace them : the banking system was already very shaky beforehand and if I am right - that the bankers [ or at least a small group of wealthy bankers who were the backers of Brexit ( for whatever reasons ) and expected to use UKIP against The Conservative & Unionist Party ] were fighting a rear-guard action against the German, French, Spanish and Italian banks etc who are about to create a single banking and insurance market without borders ...

... There is a good argument to be made out for resisting a single banking and insurance market, because within one market there would be two fluctuating currencies which could cause trouble ... especially if your bank or insurance company is operating in pounds sterling : perhaps currency-wise the pound sterling is better off out of The European Union ... but people-wise I think that we are definitely not : we are about to be stripped of all sorts of things which we have taken for granted, that we are not yet even going to understand exist before we loose them ... If we thought that the last thirty years were bad ... the next ten are going to be an awful lot worse ... and the next ten ? ... shudder ... I think that our society will cease to exist in the next thirty years - i.e. nothing recognisable as a society will remain in this place labeled " Wales " by 2050 - and there will probably not be an " England " either ... although The United Kingdom will still exist of course, with The Union Flag still flying over The Houses of Parliament ...

... Which will of course be surrounded by automated machine gun emplacements defending The Robots in Westminster who will be re-iterating the programmes of their predeceasors by discussing the need to raise their taxes upon the lesser machines such as the lawnmowers, televisions and washing machines further again on behalf of the banking computers whose programming proved to be defective yet again and so the sums of the digits within them have drastically fallen yet again and so the economy grow yet again ... but in another way The United Kingdom will have finally perfected its very peculiar version of Democracy : it will have excluded all of The People Who Are Not Sufficiently Economically Useful ... and will for a number of years enjoy a flourishing war economy in a completely automated state as it continues without The People ...

... but do not worry - Democracy will be no more automated than it is now and so The Robocrats will continue to bribe and threaten The Robotorate which will be progammed to sit on their tin arses in front of their televisions shouting at their sobbing spouses scraping off their dinners burnt in the kitchen and fending off their children ( newly replaced, ready for the new school year ) who are demanding that they all allow the car to drive them to a fast food restaurant so that they can join in with everybody else eating nothing and bring it home to dispose of in a doggy bag - and even their doggy is a robot : this is after all a vision of life after a thermo-nuclear war - everything continues as normal, except that the radiation levels are too high for any of The People in Wales to survive ... The Welsh Language however does survive and indeed flourishes because those robots programmed to talk in Welsh now do so with accents which are have been authenticated by Cymdeithas Yr Iaith and vocabularies constructed by Y Geriadur Prifysgol Cymru and a grammar approved by BBC Wales ... but unfortunately the scope of what they will be allowed to discuss will be decided by S4C ...
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Virtually no news of Jeremy today ... I wonder if - fox hunting and shooting peasants having been recently banned - their treatment of him was due to an explosive boredom ... but who are " they " ? ... Surely The Illuminati must have our opponents - The Bringers of Darkness ? ... mmm ... The trouble with that is that it leaves us with the question of " Who ? " ... Whereas The Brexiteers seem to me to be trying to practice alien mind control to convince us that they are The Bringers of Wonder ... that they are trying to persuade us with language that is super swift ... ? ... Perhaps my droning on in this fashion provides no overall view of anything ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bringers_of_Wonder,_Part_Two

- " ... It is 1915 days after leaving Earth orbit, and Moonbase Alpha is in the midst of a celebration. A rescue party from Earth travelling in a Superswift, an interstellar vessel equipped with a faster-than-light drive system, has arrived on the Moon. The Alpha castaways can now return home after more than five years of mad travel through a hostile universe. At this time, a team of Alphans—Alan Carter with nuclear physicists Jack Bartlett and Joe Ehrlich—have travelled uncountable light-years and are approaching Earth in the Superswift's compact pilot ship. ... This is how events appear to the Alpha population. In reality, they are under the mental control of hostile aliens, who appear to the humans as family and friends comprising the crew of Superswift. ... " -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcbkWk10MOo ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFIpRwSBYJA

http://blog.scottlogic.com/2014/11/20/swift-initialisation.html

- " SWIFT INITIALIZATION AND THE PAIN OF OPTIONALS - Swift’s strict initialisation process results in a number of practical issues, leaving developers scratching their heads. This post explores a few solutions including two-phase initialisation, the use of optionals and lazy properties. ... Swift is an opinionated language. It is clear that it was designed with strictness and safety in mind. ... One of the more radical features of this language is that it doesn’t permit nil references. ... Whilst this sounds like a very sensible concept it has a knock-on effect to the seemingly simple task of initialising objects."

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36792176 - Labour leadership: Smith 'wants referendum on EU deal'

" Labour leadership contender Owen Smith wants a second public vote once the UK agrees a Brexit deal with the EU, according to a newspaper. ... Mr Smith told the Guardian there should be a general election or referendum "when the terms are clear". ... He said it was clear people wanted both access to the single market and controls on immigration. ... Mr Smith is challenging Jeremy Corbyn to become Labour leader, with fellow MP Angela Eagle also standing."

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Whilst The Labour & Cooperative Party is descending into sectarian conflict so is The Conservative & Unionist Party only more swiftly and efficiently as Theresa May conducts ... well, not so much The Night of The Long Knives ... more ... The Morning of Short Words ... perhaps she is going to try to write her maladministration into one particular history book - The Guinness Book of Records ? ... But surely The House of Commons can find nobody to compete with ... FASTEST TALKER: In 1995, Canadian Sean Shannon recited Hamlet's "To be or not to be" soliloquy, 260 words, in 23.8secs. ... BREATH HELD VOLUNTARILY: The USA's Robert Foster held his breath for 13mins 42.5secs in 1959. ... MOST FEET SNIFFED: In a 15-year career, Madeline Albrecht sniffed 5,600 feet while working for footcare experts Dr Scholl in the USA. ... MOTIONLESS: In 1997, Om Prakash Singh of India stood still for 20hrs, 10mins and 6secs. ... MOST RATTLESNAKES HELD IN MOUTH: Jackie Bibby of the USA held eight live snakes by their tails for 12.5secs in 2001. ... LONGEST JOKE-TELLING MARATHON: In 1992, Mike Heeman of the USA cracked 12,682 in 24hrs. ...

... Come to think of it I reckon that The House of Commons has already broken that record by centuries ... but as Theresa May accelerates towards the matter of separation from The European Union in order to take us on a scenic tour of The Economy of The World looking for work, I think that she will fall off Norman Tebbit's bike and this will become a matter of disintegration for The United Kingdom - so she will not be breaking this record ... BLINDFOLDED SPEED RECORD: Briton Mike Newman hit 164.87mph on a motorbike in Wiltshire last year. ... but may be they will end up breaking this record instead - LONGEST TIME TRAPPED IN A LIFT: Cypriot Kively Papajohn, 76, was trapped from Dec 28, 1987, to Jan 2, 1988. She lived on the food in her shopping bag. ... Perhaps we should all rush out and buy a few decades worth of shopping to live on ...

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Through my snoring this morning I noted a Labour & Cooperative Party Person talking of a judicial review or something or other and comparing their rules to those of a cricket club etc and I thought - aha ! - THEY ARE FINALLY GETTING IT ... but the trouble there is that I have witnessed such people at work subverting the rules of whatever organisation they join : we see the same sorts of people dragging their friends after them into one organisation after another sandbagging meetings and taking control of them to pursue their transient whims only to ransack them of resources created by others over decades leaving such organisations devoid of funds and property - derelict if not actually extinguished : and that is basically what those who rallied around Harold Wilson did to The Labour & Cooperative Party - but also what those who rallied around Edward Heath did to The Conservative & Unionist Party ... the eras of Thatcher V Kinnock and Blair V Hague were founded upon what happened in the decades which preceded them when these parties began to treat government as something done to The People on behalf of The Aristocrats ...

... Indeed we might argue that the high point of The Democrats in The United Kingdom was between The World Wars not after them : by 1950 more or less everyone who was of the last generation brought up with the last lingering lessons of The Republicans in Wales in The 19c was dead - their warnings against the abuses of The Democrats and how to protect the political system from The United Kingdom were either ignored or scoffed at ... The Democrats all professed that the legacy of The Republicans in Wales - The Friendly Societies, The Cooperatives, The Trade Unions, The Welfare Halls, The Health Services, The Legal Aid Societies, The Mutual Assurance Societies, The Life Insurance Societies, The Pension Funds, The Building Societies, The Social Housing Schemes, The Allotment Societies - and so many other social enterprises - would be safe in the hands of The United Kingdom because now - after centuries of opposing the development of these bulwarks of The Lives of The People - those who had created The United Kingdom to profitably encompass The Deaths of The People would now protect and pay for these things, that they had had a change of heart. ... huh ...

... So now we see The Democrats in Wales once more stumbling to try to appropriate the language and ideas of Republicanism - either without even knowing where these ideas which they are citing come from or ( more sinisterly ) knowing exactly where they come from and refusing to admit to The People that they are one more stealing from Republicanism lest they be forced to accept the whole of the Republican argument : that the non-political system called The United Kingdom must be got rid of because it is founded upon the criminal concept of not being accountable to the law i.e. " Sovereignty " - yet this does not preclude having The Royal Family, provided that false political principle is removed ... In other words they must either admit that they have lied to The People about what Republicanism is - or they must admit that they do not know what Republicanism is ... either way - we need to return Republicanism to Welsh Political Society as part of our national political discourse because it is the missing aspect of it : an adult political discourse centuries old to challenge the infantile political discourse that we are presently being harmed by ... I despair that The People in Wales can grow up quickly enough to really deal successfully with this political crisis - but there is time for The People in Wales to make it into political pubescence and perhaps our voters may even lose their verging identities ... and thereby cease to be forever living on the edge.


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36775634 - What do liberty, equality, fraternity mean to France now ?

By Lucy Williamson - BBC Paris correspondent - 14 July 2016

" France will be holding its annual celebration of Revolutionary history on Thursday, with a military parade down the capital's most famous boulevard, a presidential address to the nation and a vast fireworks display. But amid the glorification of the Republic and its ideals, do the values of equality, liberty and fraternity still hold true in France today ? ... "Bastille Day is a way to celebrate the past, to celebrate the famous triangle of core values," he says, "but everybody knows that we must give a new definition to these values today. ... "'Liberte, egalite, fraternite' worked in a country with a cultural unity, but with cultural diversity, is this triangle still effective?" ... It's such a tricky question, he says, that the country's politicians find it easier to keep celebrating the past than tackle what these concepts might mean in France today. ... But, he adds, "repeating is not the same thing as believing". ... The concept of fraternity was somewhat neglected before the attacks, he says, but "because of them, fraternity has gained a new meaning; that it's not just an attachment to the country, but also to everyday relationships". ... "

PICNIC THIS EVENING 8PM - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=3708#3708 - DAVID WILLIAMS MEMORIAL, BY CAERPHILLY CASTLE LAKE
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Owen Smith says " Make Jeremy President -_We must not allow him to be the next resident_In Downing Street at Number Ten_For what on earth might happen then ?_Our membership may deselect us - on the basis of our being dissident ! "

Owen Smith says " Make Jeremy President -_
We must not allow him to be the next resident_
In Downing Street at Number Ten_
For what on earth might happen then ?_
Our members may deselect us - on the basis that we're dissident ! "

= dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !


I am just shaking my head at Owen Smith - The New Ramsey MacDonald ? - these people really do not understand politics : they are openly and nakedly scrabbling to secure their salaries and status and the only expense they make an account of is what they can personally profit by with utterly no regard either for the membership of The Labour & Cooperative Party or the people who elect them - it must surely be far better to get rid of these parasites by finally putting " New Labour " into the same grave which Blair tossed " Old Labour " and where it lay with its predecessor as was killed off by MacDonald ... It is time to start again with the same project which gave birth to The Labour Party and The Cooperative Party - the one which we began with in the 1790s - The United Republic !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36842339

Owen Smith: I'd offer Corbyn Labour president job

" Labour leadership challenger Owen Smith says he will offer Jeremy Corbyn the role of party president if he wins. ... Mr Smith praised his rival but said he was "not a leader", saying he had "sloganised" on austerity without setting out what he would do instead. ... [ I BET THAT OWEN SMITH IS NOT QUEUING AT A FOOD BANK NOR SLEEPING ON A BENCH - OTHER THAN IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS ] ... In a series of interviews on Wednesday morning, Mr Smith said Labour would split if Mr Corbyn was re-elected, saying he had personally warned the leader the party was "teetering on the brink of extinction". ... [ WELL FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE REPUBLICANS IN WALES AND THE WORLD ALL OF THE DEMOCRATS IN WALES AND THE WORLD - BUT ESPECIALLY WESTMINSTER - ARE EITHER DINOSAURS - OR DODOS - OR BOTH* ] ... He said he was the candidate to "save the Labour Party" and make it a "credible government in waiting" as he faced a wide range of questions. ... Mr Smith was also asked about the time he called a police hotline - rather than 999 as previously reported - to get a comment for a story during his time working as a BBC researcher. ... [ WHICH IN ITSELF TELLS YOU ABOUT THE STANDARDS OF JOURNALISM AS PRACTICED WITHIN THE BBC ] ... He acknowledged it had been a "stupid mistake". ... He said he would be willing to press the nuclear button if elected as prime minister ... He praised Mr Corbyn for helping Labour "rediscover its radical roots" ... [ AND IS OFFERING HIMSELF TO THE PARLIAMENTARY " NEW " LABOUR PARTY AS THE CANDIDATE CAPABLE OF CUTTING ANY NEW SHOOTS FROM THE ROOTS IN THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND OF THE CONSTITUENCIES OF THE NATIONAL " OLD " LABOUR PARTY ] ... Mr Smith will go up against Mr Corbyn in a head-to-head contest over the next two months, in which party members who joined Labour before 12 January, members of trade unions affiliated to Labour and registered supporters who sign up by paying £25 before the 17:00 deadline on Wednesday will be able to take part. ... in a statement on his Facebook page, former leader Ed Miliband urged Labour supporters to register to vote in the leadership election and back Mr Smith. ... [ THERE IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF ED NEAR THE BOTTOM OF THE ARTICLE - APPARENTLY ABOUT TO STUFF SOMETHING PHALLIC INTO HIS GAPING MOUTH - OR PERHAPS HE IS JUST HOLDING A MEATING ? ] ...

... [ * I OUGHT TO POINT OUT HERE THAT NEARLY EVERY SPECIES THAT NEVER LIVED IS NOT ONLY ALREADY EXTINCT BUT WILL INEVITABLY BECOME EXTINCT - SO THE FACT THAT THE DEMOCRATS IN WALES AND WESTMINSTER EXIST AT ALL IS TO BE COUNTED AS A MIRACLE ... WHICH JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT THE DEITY HAS A VERY PECULIAR SENSE OF HUMOUR WHEN HE SENDS SUCH THINGS TO TRY US ... MASS EXTINCTIONS OF COURSE HAVE HAD MANY CAUSES AND REPUBLICANISM IS A PARTICULARLY FINE CAUSE - BUT ABOVE ALL OTHER NATURAL PROCESSES SUCH AS EVOLUTION ( AND UN-NATURAL PROCESSES SUCH AS DEVOLUTION ) WE SHOULD BE IN FAVOUR OF REVOLUTION IN ORDER TO BE SURE THAT THE DEMOCRATS CAN NOT MUTATE INTO AN EVEN MORE DANGEROUSLY STUPID SPECIES.]


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Well I came home late and I was enjoying fiddling with the above whilst Westminster burned and so I missed the following article appearing three hours or so ago : my first reaction to this is unprintable - and my readers know that my prose can be a lot more than purple ... My friends have been urging me to return to sanity, to pay my cash and buy my vote for a man whose moral values are a lot like mine - they just do not grasp that Jeremy Corbyn is in the grasp of The Parliamentary Party and that this is how all of The Democrats in Wales and The World operate : the electoral and voting systems are irrelevant because Democracy is based upon the principle of dividing and ruling The People on behalf of The Ultraists ... It does not really matter which of The Democrats are elected because they are the servants of those who wield the power in a society - " The X-crats " - typically an uneasy coalition of private interests of which each are trying to use their own means to influence the political system either in their own favour or in order to bargain for the favours of others ... The Parliamentary Party is merely the public appearance - a shell - within which The ( Potential ) Prime Minister's Party operates ...

... and the same happens within The Constituency Parties where a regular tactic deployed by The Members of Parliament Parties when The Members are not successfully fucking The Membership because of some Republican Democrat in The Party presenting the facts and the arguments and persuading everybody over a series of meetings to agree that these point to an inevitable conclusion ... At the end of this process - when what has been agreed by all of those who have carefully considered the proposal for the manifesto - the final meeting is held to confirm the final draught and The Member who has decided what will be in it either months before any facts and arguments or even the proposals were known ( or has jotted down some things those he owes favours to on the back of a beer mat the night before ) arrives ... as often as not they are not actually late but have been lingering in the pub next door signing up the necessary number of voters for their purposes, paying their subscriptions for them and waiving the business of filling in the application forms until tomorrow ... This is not merely the humourous exaggeration of matters that you might think : I myself have witnessed such Members fucking Counts ... but I have never witnessed this on the scale upon which it is now being conducted by The Parliamentary Labour & Cooperative Party to try to fix The National Labour & Cooperative Party's leadership elections ... but then neither do I approve of those rushing to buy a slice of any Democratic Party either : if you do not want the political system to be corrupted it is no solution to compete to be even more corrupt ...

... This is why The Republicans in Wales and The World want to prevent private donations into any part of the political system of any sort - whether one-off millions of pounds from rich individuals or just a few pence in annual subscriptions from millions of members : if The Rule of Law is a worthwhile thing then The Political System which creates the laws and our consultations with it and The State in The Court Room are the Summum Bonum of our means to define De Res Publica ... If private interests - individual or collective - can obtain influence over the political system through payments of money then by definition that political system is not able to define laws which are in The Public Interest and therefore it is not a Republican political system ... If you want to examine the most brazen example of a Republican political system that has been systematically corrupted by those who use wealth to pursue their individual and collective private interests then look to what is presently happening in The United States of America where The Aristocrats in America have succeeded in getting The Democrats in America which serve them ( i.e. both of the main parties ) to repeal the laws which severely restricted the funding of political campaigns by The International ( Non-Tax-Paying ) Corporations ... Hence Donald Trump can now outbid the dynasties of both of The Aristocrats - The Houses of Clinton and The Bushes, both alike in - and - in being the first to buy the office of The President of The United States of America outright ... he gets to be " Donald The First - King of Whatever May Be Left Of The World After World War Three " ... " Or Four " ... " Best of Five ? " ... Think of it this way : Donald Trump is a serial bankruptcy artist, and in order to avoid losing any failing business empire the obvious way to avoid a further personal bankruptcy is for you to merge your business interests with The State because it is not going to ever declare itself bankrupt - not whilst you are The President ... and historically the most profitable and the least risky ( for the wealthy ) of all business ventures has ever been to declare a political fire-sale i.e. a war e.g. Bush, Son & Co.

IF YOU VALUE YOUR POLITICAL SYSTEM THEN YOU SET OUT TO BOTH DEFEND IT AND TO PARTICIPATE IN IT - AND THEREFORE YOU PAY THE PRICE FOR IT : REAL POLITICAL SYSTEMS RUN ON INFORMATION - THEIR PARTICIPANTS PRACTICE TRUTH, LOVE, FREEDOM AND PEACE & THUS BRING LIFE TO THEIR SOCIETIES - WHEREAS THE NON-PARTICIPANTS IN THE NON-POLITICAL SYSTEMS PRACTICE LIES, HATRED, ENSLAVEMENT AND WAR & THUS BRING DEATH TO THEIR SOCIETIES. ... WE NEED TO CREATE A BALLOT-PROOF POLITICAL SYSTEM !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36851524

Labour leadership: More than 180,000 people register in 48 hours

Labour has received more than 180,000 applications to vote in the party's upcoming leadership election over the past 48 hours, it has said. ... Some 183,541 people paid £25 to become registered supporters and qualify for a vote in the contest between existing leader Jeremy Corbyn and Owen Smith. ... Mr Smith was nominated by 162 Labour MPs. The party ruled last week that Mr Corbyn did not need to get nominations. ... The winner of the contest is due to be announced on 24 September. ... The new registered supporters will vote alongside more than 380,000 party members who joined before 12 January and members of affiliated unions. ... The 48-hour period for people to sign up as a registered Labour Party supporters closed at 17:00 BST, when the deadline for contenders in the election also passed. ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_%28UK%29_leadership_election,_2016
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I suppose that we ought to be paying attention to what may be happening beyond the borders of The European Spate of Shit ... er ... did any of you get that piratical pun ? ... The People in Russia are probably utterly pissed off as well as definitely pissed up and not only are they tanked up and high as kites but their tanks and kites are a damn sight nearer Blightee than Yankee ... And throughout the 20c various Russian leaders have aspired to use them in order to immigrate into The European Dis-Union and give us full employment, homes fit to live in and really cheap booze - but The Democrats in Wales and Westminster have forever resisted this ... bastards !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT2z0nrsQ8o = The Democrats in All of The Russias ...
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Back in the 1990s - when Tony Blair was hip -_We fed ourselves and The O.A.P.s from the council's market skip_But then when our Labour councillor found out and witnessed this_She was offended by our poverty and we heard her loudly hiss_" Go and put a padlock on it - lest The Queen here makes a trip ! " = The People in Wales are taught to say_" Democracy is The Only Way ! "_They never ask The Democrats " Why_Do you refuse to even try ? "_DEMOCRACY IS HARMING US : DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT IT'S OK ? = Owen Smith says " Make Jeremy President -_We must not allow him to be the next resident_In Downing Street at Number Ten_For what on earth might happen then ?_Our members may deselect us - on the basis that we're dissident ! " = dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right not to sue for copyright = posted with commentary = https://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=3766#3766

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Back in the 1990s - when Tony Blair was hip -_
We fed ourselves and The O.A.P.s from the council's market skip_
But then when our Labour councillor found out and witnessed this_
She was offended by our poverty and we heard her loudly hiss_
" Go and put a padlock on it - lest The Queen here makes a trip ! "

=

The People in Wales are taught to say_
" Democracy is The Only Way ! "_
They never ask The Democrats " Why_
Do you refuse to even try ? "_
DEMOCRACY IS HARMING US : DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT IT'S OK ?
=

Owen Smith says " Make Jeremy President -_
We must not allow him to be the next resident_
In Downing Street at Number Ten_
For what on earth might happen then ?_
Our members may deselect us - on the basis that we're dissident ! "

= dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right not to sue for copyright = posted with commentary = https://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=3766#3766


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Note the double posting as I re-posted to trick the typography out in colours and bold etc : I think that when this happens I am being subjected to un-official surveillance - so if you are reading this and still do not understand then stop speculating and just put your questions to me on Y Repwblic and I will try my best to explain why it is that it is The Democrats in Wales and The World who deal in lies and emotional manipulation and The Republicans who have been framed by them to appear as criminals when we are the upholders of The Rule of Law : do not believe me ? ... Well try to learn a little about Real Republicanism before indulging yourself in the action-movie sado-masochistical erotical fantasies which supposedly depict Republicans and Republicanism that are broadcast by the BBC as " news bulletins " ... I can assure you that the most dangerous thing about Republicans and Republicanism is that they both may prove to be fatally addictive.

THIS VIDEO IS FROM A SERIES OF LECTURES FROM THE YALE COURSES ABOUT THE CREATION OF THE UNITED KINGDOM - OR - " HOW THIS STUPID BLOODY MESS ALL BEGAN."

EARLY MODERN ENGLAND 11 : The Elizabethan "Monarchical Republic" - Political Participation

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL18B9F132DFD967A3

This is how these proems / texter-tricks / textericks appear in an SMS :

Back in the 1990s - when Tony Blair was hip -_We fed ourselves and The O.A.P.s from the council's market skip_But then when our Labour councillor found out and witnessed this_She was offended by our poverty and we heard her loudly hiss_" Go and put a padlock on it - lest The Queen here makes a trip ! " = The People in Wales are taught to say_" Democracy is The Only Way ! "_They never ask The Democrats " Why_Do you refuse to even try ? "_DEMOCRACY IS HARMING US : DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT IT'S OK ? = Owen Smith says " Make Jeremy President -_We must not allow him to be the next resident_In Downing Street at Number Ten_For what on earth might happen then ?_Our members may deselect us - on the basis that we're dissident ! " = dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right not to sue for copyright = posted with commentary = https://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=3766#3766


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Back in the 1990s - when Tony Blair was hip -_
We fed ourselves and The O.A.P.s from the council's market skip_
But then when our Labour councillor found out and witnessed this_
She was offended by our poverty and we heard her loudly hiss_
" Go and put a padlock on it - lest The Queen here makes a trip ! "

=

The People in Wales are taught to say_
" Democracy is The Only Way ! "_
They never ask The Democrats " Why_
Do you refuse to even try ? "_
DEMOCRACY IS HARMING US : DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT IT'S OK ?
=

Owen Smith says " Make Jeremy President -_
We must not allow him to be the next resident_
In Downing Street at Number Ten_
For what on earth might happen then ?_
Our members may deselect us - on the basis that we're dissident ! "

= dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right not to sue for copyright = posted with commentary = https://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=3766#3766
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