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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh - so much happening ... I suspect that this is what the Republican political theory of The Four Estates predicts : that Democracy will fall to Aristocracy when The Stasis collapses. Something to note has been what is happening in The USA where The People in America now despise both presidential candidates and feel very accutely that they are being manipulated by The Aristocracy - albeit that they have difficulty in believing that this is happening in America because they believe that The Constitution Will Defend The USA ... Oh dear ... they have not read it - nor the other pieces of paper have they ?

Meanwhile in The UK the situation is obvious in The Labour & Cooperative Party : one of The Aristocrats has taken them to court today to try to overturn their ( Democratically taken ) decision to put Jeremy Corbyn on the ballot paper of their leadership election ... arguing that his being the de facto leader elected by the de facto membership counts for nothing in the face of his de facto political opponents in the de facto party within the party of The Parliamentary Party which de facto does not accept the ( Democratically taken ) decision to put Jeremy Corbyn on the ballot paper by which he won the previous leadership election ...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1caPVZN14Q = The Labour & Cooperative Party at prayer ?

I thought that I was asleep - but I have had a sort of holiday ... wandering through Trawsylfania ... but unhappily I now find myself once more back home in the Cardiffiffyffranian nightmare ... I have awokkened but I am not affried - just becoming overheated and stirred up once more ...

Meanwhile I note that nearly everybody in The Labour & Cooperative Party wants to get in on the action and publicly demonstrate their commitment to Demockery - especially one of The Aristocrats whom they serve who has got annoyed that he is not getting what he is paying for ... And if you look beyond The Republic of Ireland you can now see what can be purchased in their non-political system by The Aristocrats in The United States of America : it used to be just individual voters and politicians - then it became individual states and parties - now it is ... ANYBODY AND EVERYTHING ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36931988
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael Heseltine just stated today circa 9.40am on Radio 4 in " Reflections " that " Parliament is Sovereign " & that The People are not in The EU Referendum !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07m5gwm

Peter Pain and Difydd Wagley were interviewing Mr Vague yesterday morning about his career as Colonial Viceroy in Wales and how he went native by marrying one of us after persuading her to stop covering up for the tits around him and how he is still arguing with her to send those saucepan lids back to Llanelli ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07m4x02

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I am not keeping up with UKIP other than by hearing some friends of mine praise it ... but then they joined it ... and they are educated activists too ... but in London ... I am confused ... so is Nathan Gill I think ... but this is all grist to my mill : LO ! - the farce of Demockery ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-36952093 - UKIP assembly members call for Nathan Gill to resign as AM

" Five UKIP AMs have called for UKIP Wales leader Nathan Gill to stand down as an AM if he will not resign as an MEP ... Assembly group leader Neil Hamilton said: "We cannot carry on having one member of the group the other six are having to carry." ... Mr Hamilton told BBC Wales: "We were all elected to be 100% AMs seven days a week. ... "It is physically impossible to combine the two [ being an AM and an MEP ] and it is not acceptable to be here only on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday." ... But Mr Gill has defended his ability to do both jobs and said he would consider legal action if he was expelled from the party. ... "Here we are, in silly season, in August, and a few people for their own political aims are basically disgracing UKIP in front of the media of Wales. ..."It doesn't make any sense whatsoever for people for political reasons to ask me to stand down," he said, adding he was the "face" of the election campaign that "got these people elected". ... "


Now I wonder if Nathan Gill has found employment for members of his family in his new office in The Welsh Assembly ... as well as in his European Parliament office ?

http://www.assembly.wales/en/memhome/pay-expenses-financial-interests-standards/Pages/pay-expenses-financial-interests-standards.aspx

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/about-meps.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/02/two-meps-took-home-over-1million-each-in-salary-and-expenses-pay/

" ... Mr Farage's Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy group, which receives £2.5million a year in EU funding ... Tory MP Damian Collins told the Daily Mail: "For Nigel Farage to complain about EU waste while billing European taxpayers for the costs of his tour is the height of hypocrisy. ... "It is very clear that the people of Britain cannot trust Farage and his crew with what is best for our country." ... [ MEPs ] ... receive a salary of £76,292 a year, plus £2,670 in pension contributions ... Mr Karim claimed the same salary and pension contribution package as well as: £159,858 in subsistence allowance; £189,420 in travel expenses and £289,038 in UK office costs. ... Over five years, on top of this figure, Mr Ashworth claimed: £181,705 for subsistance; £164,627 in travel expenses; £222,560 in UK office allowances and £116,000 for his wife's salary between 2010 and 2014 ... MEPs are allowed to claim £237 per day for subsistence as long as they attend the Parliament in Brussels or Strasbourg. They can also pocket over £40,000 a year for a UK-based office. ... "


http://www.nathangillmep.uk/

" Over the next five years I will be doing my best for Wales representing our shared interests on the floor of the European Parliament. I hope to expose the inefficiencies, corruption and poor decision-making that as taxpayers we all forced to pay for."

" Annoucements " - [ YEAH - " Annoucements " - yet another illiterate Democrat ]

" ... As is consistent with our group's voting guidelines on international trade, we routinely vote against any attempt to add political conditions to trade deals. ... "

I.E. UKIP GIVES YOUR MONEY TO COUNTRIES WHICH BAN TRADE UNIONS AND FORCE PEOPLE INTO WORKING IN CONDITIONS THAT AMOUNT TO SLAVERY THUS ENABLING THOSE BANKERS WHO HAVE BEEN BACKING THEM TO CONTRIVE TO DESTROY OUR ECONOMY AND DRIVE US AFTER THEM ALSO INTO SLAVERY : THAT IS WHAT YOUR ENDOWMENT MORTGAGES WERE ABOUT AND THEY HAVE REPLACED THEM WITH SOMETHING EVEN BETTER - LOANS TO LURE STUDENTS INTO A LIFETIME OF DEBT ... WHICH WILL BE CONVERTED INTO CHATTEL SLAVERY AS SUCH DEBTS WERE IN ROME - OH ! - DID YOU READ UKIP'S MANIFESTO BEFORE YOU VOTED FOR THEM BECAUSE YOU WERE POOR AND PISSED OFF ? ... WHAT ? ... YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEIR BIG PLAN TO HELP THE POOREST ? ... THEY PROPOSED TO GET RID OF OUR EUROPEAN EMPLOYMENT RIGHTS AND HUMAN RIGHTS - AND CAMPAIGN TO PROVIDE MORE FOOD BANK SCHEMES TO WHICH TESCO'S, SAINSBURY'S, MORRISONS' ETC WILL GIVE A FEW MORE LOAVES OF STALE BREAD AND SOME RUSTY TINS OF DECADES OUT OF DATE " POT LUCK " - BECAUSE THE SLUGS WILL HAVE EATEN THE LABELS OFF WHILST THEY WERE ROTTING IN THE BACK YARD OF SOME INDUSTRIAL ESTATE WHERE UKIP WILL CHARITABLY ARRANGE FOR THEIR STORAGE ALONGSIDE THE CORPSES OF THE POOR LEFT AWAITING FOR SOME VARIATION IN THE STOCK MARKETS TO INDUCE UKIP'S FRIENDS TO MAKE A FEW CONSCIENCE PAYMENTS FOR THE FUNERALS OF THEIR VICTIMS IN LIEU OF ACTUALLY PAYING ANY TAXES ...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More evidence that the only competence of and Democrat is at being elected ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36962266 - UKIP leadership: Steven Woolfe excluded from race

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-36964717 - UKIP's Nathan Gill gains backing over 'double job' row
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DumDeeDumDee ... Admin duties in place of sleep ... ? ... No - I have been watching these - these make me feel so much at ease in hearing somebody else mispronouncing worms ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42IDAP_6zcE - The Politics of Cicero (video lecture)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRGB8TPqPC8 - The Politics of Aristotle (video lecture)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y82SQf6vaZM - The Politics of Plato (video lecture)
I am going to go into admin to look see where the audience is at the moment ( 06.00 GMT ) but let me at least be entertained whilst I bumble around ... but this is worth a third hearing ...

Cicero's famous trial dramatised -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUcDdUG22JU

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http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/cardiff-councillor-defected-labour-saying-11695584

A Cardiff councillor has defected from Labour saying the party has a 'culture of bullying and harassment' - Splott councillor Gretta Marshall has now joined Plaid ... Splott councillor Gretta Marshall , who announced in March that she was leaving Labour, has now issued a statement condemning the culture in the party. ... She is the city’s second Labour councillor to complaining about attitudes to women after quitting the group.

Councillor Marshall said: “There is a culture of bullying and harassment in Labour that just isn’t being addressed. ... “How many female councillors do they have to lose before they do something about it? ... “The only support I was getting was actually from Plaid’s Neil McEvoy and that’s why I’m happy to join such a supportive group of councillors. “To all the female Labour councillors suffering in silence I’d encourage them not to put up with it anymore. ...“There are parties out there who work together and don’t bully the other members of their group. I’m happy to have found such a party in Plaid Cymru.”

She has now joined Plaid group leader Neil McEvoy, Lisa Ford, and former Independent Gareth Holden. ... It follows the resignation of former Labour councillor Siobhan Corria two years ago. ... In August 2014 Siobhan Corria resigned her Llandaff North seat on the council also saying “there needs to be some serious changes to the attitudes to women in public life”. ... She said she had spoken to Welsh Labour’s general secretary David Hagendyk several times on issues over the “culture, attitude and sexism within the Labour party” but claimed he had “failed to act”.

At the time, a spokesman for Welsh Labour said: “The picture that Siobhan attempts to paint of the Labour Party is one that members, activists and staff will not recognise. Thanks to the leadership of our General Secretary Welsh Labour has more women candidates going into the general election than ever before, more women councillors than ever before and a gender-balanced group in the Senedd. ... “As well as increasing the number of women selected Welsh Labour has overhauled the support and training given to women in the party to increase engagement and participation.

“It is completely untrue that Welsh Labour or individual members of staff failed to act in any way. In fact, following a meeting with Siobhan, Welsh Labour were completely supportive for action to be taken to deal with concerns raised and recommendations are with the Labour group awaiting implementation by group officers.”

Coun McEvoy, also AM for South Wales Central, said on Tuesday: “We need a lot more protection for female politicians in Wales. The level of abuse and harassment that many women face is just not on. ... “Cardiff Labour councillors seem to make a sport out of picking on female council members. Misogyny is rife and accepted. Labour have only just finished investigating a culture of anti-semitism in their party. It’s time they investigated claims of sexism too”.


[ I HAVE TAKEN A LOT BECAUSE THESE TWO NEWS STORIES REFLECT MY OWN AND MANY OTHER PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCES WITH " THE GOMBEENS " WHO HAVE BEEN CONTROLLING CARDIFF'S LABOUR & COOPERATIVE CONSTITUENCY PARTIES FOR SO LONG THAT THE PEOPLE IN CARDIFF NOW THINK THAT THESE METHODS ARE " POLITICAL " - THIS IS THE DARKER SIDE OF OUR 19c LEGACY FROM " THE FIGHTING IRISH " : THEY ONCE DID MUCH GOOD - BUT THE REPUBLICANS IN IRELAND ARE ALSO STRUGGLING AGAINST THIS PEUDO-FEUDAL SUBVERSION OF THEIR LOCAL GOVERNMENT.]
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37077672 - Labour leadership: Members drop voting legal challenge

Labour's leadership election will go ahead with the exclusion of about 130,000 new members after five of them dropped a legal challenge against the decision to bar them. ... On Friday the Court of Appeal ruled Labour was within its rights to stop some new members voting in the contest between Jeremy Corbyn and Owen Smith. ... It overturned an earlier High Court ruling that the ban was unlawful. ... The five members said they would not take their case to the Supreme Court. ...

Now regardless of the consequences of this decision or of the arguments pro or con the issue - pause to consider the implications of this : a number of Democrats decided that they are not happy with the opinion of the majority because they may lose their opportunity to serve in government - and the key word there is " serve " ... but who do they want to serve ? ... Apparently not those whose votes elect them but rather those whom they seek to be elected on behalf of ... The Aristocrats ... i.e. those who seek to influence politics from beyond the boundaries of Open Public Discourse by the use of economic means ... who literally seek to purchase and sponsor representatives who can get themselves elected in order to represent their private interests whilst maintaining the appearance of being Democrats ... this is not peculiar to The Labour & Cooperative Party - all of The Democrats are operating in this way - on both The Left and The Right ... and this legal battle demonstrates both how much money determines the non-politics of The United Kingdom and also how much this determines the legal system through which it exercises its power over our society : The Aristocracy disapprove of The Democrats in The Labour & Cooperative Party losing control of the membership - their role is to manage discontent and handle it to the point that it is utterly ineffectual but to persuade The People to still subscribes to the idea that The United Kingdom is a political system and The English Law can deliver justice ...

... Hence The Aristocrats have reached right inside this political party in order to try to ensure that its membership is restored to obedience ... hence those members which do not hold the opinions approved of are to be declared not eligible to vote ... those who thought that they had entered into some sort of contract with the party tried to challenge those who had taken their money and broken their promises to them have now discovered the true nature of The Democrats : that they are always the servants of The Aristocrats whichever party they profess to belong to and so it is the money of The Aristocrats not the party's rules which count ... Five people valiantly believed in the lies told to them by The Democrats and tried to assert them using The English Law only to find that The English Law is The Law of The Aristocrats and that they do not have enough money to enforce their own party's rules in a legal system constructed to serve the interests of those who have a lot more money ... and the opinion of this Republican in Wales ? ... Any legal system in which judgments can simply be purchased - whether for large sums of cash or small sums of cash - is simply extremely bad value for our money : the only basis for any kind of judgment is facts and arguments ... if you find the present fiasco in The Labour & Cooperative Party to be obnoxious then accept the obvious fact : the only way to bring an end to this offensive nonsense is to not only bring an end to that party but to all such parties by finally bringing an end to what has produced them - bring an end to The United Kingdom - the non-political system which not only breeds these non-political parties but uses them to protect and promote the private interests of those who created it in the first place way back in 1688 - The Aristocrats who jostle to sponsor and get elected The Democrats who will redefine The Public Interest to equate it with their own private interests ... and who use The English Law and English Courts to do so.

If we can not yet get rid of The United Kingdom let us at least try to secure The Welsh Law and Welsh Courts as a means to resist The Aristocrats' interference in our politics - and in my view of things that involves exposing to view the fact that The Democrats are their servants and challenging The People to question their blind faith in Democracy ... if you are shocked by the idea of my dismissing your faith in Democracy as superstitious - let me ask you who told you that not believing in Democracy is wrong, offensive or even criminal ... was it by any chance The Democrats who demanded that you must believe in their ruling over you lest they punish you ? ... In the same way that The Aristocrats two hundred years ago demanded that The People must believe in their being ruled by those who would otherwise punish them ? ... In the same way that The Monocrats four hundred years ago demanded the same - and six hundred years ago The Hierocrats demanded the same ? ... Arbitrary rule by privileged communities is wrong however they acquire those privileges and however just they claim their rule to be - because when political systems dismantle The Rule of Law by defining those whose opinions differ from their own as heretics, excluding them from society as minorities, refusing them the means to live and then ultimately exterminating them they are by definition Ultraist ... and what characterises Ultraists is their claim to be above the laws which they apply to those they rule - the principle of " Sovereignty " which underpins the non-political system whose foolish supporters do not call it " The Dis-United Kingdom " but deny that it is tearing apart the society which it governs and instead allege that those who make criticisms such as this are their enemies who are undermining its foundations.

We are not the enemies of but The Friends of The People : Citizens of The World - Cosmopolitans - Republicans - Nomocrats !
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... oh dear ... The Tyrant in Waiting of All He Surveys has been complaining about my use of The Capitalisation of Phrases ... I started doing this some years ago as a joke : litigious Republican nutters tend to make grandiose proclamations in which they Capitalise certain of The Key Phrases which they believe cite Certain Legal Principles. You will note that the latest online incarnation of The Lodge of The Cardiff Illuminati has been dubbed by Moritz/Dafydd " Y Lleuadigion " which translates as " The Lunatics."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37107442 - North Korea diplomat in London defects to South - Mr Thae was the ambassador's deputy and is thought to be the highest-ranking North Korean official ever to defect. ... His main mission in London had been to spread positive perceptions of the North Korean leadership. ... In the past, Mr Thae had argued the British were brainwashed by their ruling class into believing "shocking, terrifying" lies about North Korea under its leader Kim Jong-un.

Nearly everything that I write has some kind of humorous slant because that is how I manage to motivate myself to write - by amusing myself and hopefully amusing others - and expressing on behalf of others their frustrations, hurts and howls whilst proposing to reframing these in a positive way instead of just pouring out hate ... yes - I think that it is entirely legitimate to express hatred towards our politicians and towards The United Kingdom which they serve because they are hurting us : only in such regimes as North Korea are there laws to make The People Love Their Leaders ... the introduction of the concept of " hate crime " is not even the thin end of the wedge of the policing our minds and once more they are declaring that certain thoughts are criminal as they were in The United Kingdom in the 16c - oh, and the 17c - and the 18c - and the 19c - and the 20c - and - oh well ... there are no thought crimes in Republicanism ( unfortunately we have to preserve the continued existence of Y Repwblic by being prepared to remove stuff from the board that endangers our relationship with its host - but fortunately informe.com is in The USA where they still actually practice Free Speech ) because in Republicanism it is only to non-consenting relationships between people that laws can be applied : The Rule of Law can not enter into The Minds of The People without their consent and to ban anyone from speaking about what is in their minds to others who consent to listen to them is a criminal act in The Natural Law ... to give an example of that principle a person can not be coerced to give evidence in a courtroom because it tends to corrupt the due process of legal proceedings because they tend to lie in order to avoid the sanctions which the court may hand out : that is why there is a no-fault option for declining to be questioned in such a way which may incriminate the witness in many legal systems - otherwise the lies which they might tell might result in the case becoming distorted. ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37104446 - Anjem Choudary case raises terror law questions - Mr Anderson said, adding: "We do need to look at what might be done if there are impediments, technical reasons why it's not as easy to get convictions under these laws as it should be." ... He said it was "very difficult to craft a law that can clearly distinguish people who are dangerous from people who are simply revolting".

Another fundamental legal principle in Republicanism is that all court proceedings can be observed in order to be sure that The Laws of The State are not only correctly written but correctly applied ... thus the recent development in The United Kingdom of its trials being held in secret is particularly worrying from the point of view of Republicans in Wales because of what happened in " The Conspiracy Trial " which prosecution fell apart when it was proven that a number of those arrested had signed " confessions " that were in some cases blank sheets of paper. ... Now that we have been told that three weeks or more ago a trial took place in The United Kingdom which The News Media were present at but agreed not to report we can plainly see how The United Kingdom not only violates the most basic principle of Republicanism - The Rule of Law - but also disregards the most basic principle of Democracy - The Freedom of The Press - and the trial itself was about Freedom of Thought ... or in other words the " Hate Crime " of Anjem Choudry ... which of course raises the dilemma of whether there is anything different in the hatred that Islamicist like Choudry bears towards The United Kingdom and the hatred which a Republican like myself bear towards it ... the difference I think is obvious -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37099622 - Anjem Choudary's links to Belgian extremist group - A 2015 trial that convicted 45 Sharia4Belgium members of terror-related offences suggested Choudary was influential in the creation of the organisation. ... The judgement notes that in 2010 Belkacem "spent several days in a mosque in London", adding that in the same year Choudary "announced in the media that he was planning to create a new branch of his movement in Belgium".

- Anjem Choudry incites others to feel and think the same way that he does and he wants them to fulfill his wishes ... David B Lawrence incites others to feel and think the same way that he does and he wants them to fulfill his wishes : isn't the difference between him and me obvious ? No ? If this law can not distinguish between those who advocate war and those who advocate peace - then whilst it has been justified by citing the dangers of hate speech inciting crime then equally it can be used to argue against the hatred expressed by Vegetarian Activists towards those who legally abuse, torture and murder animals - because clearly there are going to be a few of those who are going to become even more extreme and become Vegan Fundamentalists advocating that deeds not words must be the order of the day and so raise The Banner of The Black Chicken of Free Liberty and set off to charge the nearest batteries with electrifying acts of something or other ... but these surely will not be the worst to fear because in their wake will soon follow The Fruitarian Extremists who will be willing to kill for a pineapple - unless we can successfully reason with them that - technically - pineapples are not actually a form of fruit ... I assure that there was some kind of serious point being made in this somewhere.

[ After that I wrote a text to Y who protested ] Please give me a break - I know that you said no more political poems - but you must like this one ! = The Chickens' friends are The Vegetarians_But The Pineapples' friends are The Fruitarians_The former will open The Battery Cages_The Supermarkets the latter enrages_By opening The Cans of The Epicureans.

The Chickens' friends are The Vegetarians_
But The Pineapples' friends are The Fruitarians_
The former will open The Battery Cages_
The Supermarkets the latter enrages_
By opening The Cans of The Epicureans.

= dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicureanism

Epicureanism is a system of philosophy based upon the teachings of the ancient Greek philosopher Epicurus, founded around 307 BC. Epicurus was an atomic materialist, following in the steps of Democritus. His materialism led him to a general attack on superstition and divine intervention. Following Aristippus—about whom very little is known—Epicurus believed that what he called "pleasure" was the greatest good, but that the way to attain such pleasure was to live modestly, to gain knowledge of the workings of the world and to limit one's desires. This would lead one to attain a state of tranquility (ataraxia) and freedom from fear as well as an absence of bodily pain (aponia). The combination of these two states constitutes happiness in its highest form. Although Epicureanism is a form of hedonism insofar as it declares pleasure to be its sole intrinsic goal, the concept that the absence of pain and fear constitutes the greatest pleasure, and its advocacy of a simple life, make it very different from "hedonism" as it is colloquially understood.

http://www.epicurus.net/

“Let no one be slow to seek wisdom when he is young nor weary in the search of it when he has grown old. For no age is too early or too late for the health of the soul. And to say that the season for studying philosophy has not yet come, or that it is past and gone, is like saying that the season for happiness is not yet or that it is now no more. Therefore, both old and young alike ought to seek wisdom, the former in order that, as age comes over him, he may be young in good things because of the grace of what has been, and the latter in order that, while he is young, he may at the same time be old, because he has no fear of the things which are to come. So we must exercise ourselves in the things which bring happiness, since, if that be present, we have everything, and, if that be absent, all our actions are directed towards attaining it.” — Epicurus, Letter to Menoeceus


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One of the phrases that I Capitalise is " The Friends of The People " which in the 1790s was one of the ways in which the use of the word " Republican " was avoided because it was already associated with those damnable colonial ingrates in America who had abused this quintessentially British political principle to argue against those who genially ruled over them and only ever hanged one or two of them occasionally to encourage the rest - " De Res Publicae " was even printed on the currency in The United Kingdom - and as if that was bad enough then The French suddenly started using the word to and Mr Edmund Burke was so miffed he refused to use the word of himself ever again nor allowed anybody else to - and whereas Dr Richard Price and others thought that The French Revolution was the best thing since sliced head they had not yet witnessed in 1790 when The King in France invited them all to his jolly big picnic to celebrate the fall of his castle " The Bastille " and see the man who had saved his regime from collapsing - General Lafayette - persuade everybody to swear allegiance to ... well - what was already a " republic " in all but name but which was modeled on The United Kingdom ... meanwhile in The United Kingdom everybody wanted what they were reading about in the American and French newspapers - because the British newspapers were actually worse back then than they are now - and their sports coverage was particularly awful : it mostly consisted of reports about the cock fighting being indulged in by The Aristocrats ( although it has to be admitted that some of them did prefer to ride frisky young fillies ) ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_the_Friends_of_the_People

The Society of the Friends of the People was an organization in Great Britain that was focused on advocating for Parliamentary Reform. It was founded by the Whig Party in 1792. ... The Society disbanded in the mid 1790s as a result of conservative reaction against radical political movements.

... Anyway sometime recently Alex Salmon was on Radio 4 recounting the story of Thomas Muir - one of " The Friends of The People " and therefore damned lucky not to be hanged for hanging about with the riff-raff and teaching them such notions above their stations that they might start believing in Democracy - which as we know is a very very dangerous thing ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07mxk48 - Great Lives - Alex Salmond on Thomas Muir

Alex Salmond chooses Thomas Muir for Great Lives, whom he describes as the Father of Scottish Democracy.

"I have devoted myself to the cause of The People. It is a good cause - it shall ultimately prevail - it shall finally triumph." ( Thomas Muir )


Born in 1765, Thomas Muir trained as a lawyer and spent much of his early years advocating political reform and greater representation. These views brought him to the attention of the authorities who tried and convicted him of "unconscious sedition". Sentenced to fourteen years transportation to Australia, he eventually escaped and embarked on an epic voyage back to Europe during which he was almost killed. ... Alex Salmond argues that it was his treatment by the state that turned Muir from reformer to radical and then revolutionary, and he believes the democratic reform he sought has still not occurred. He says the word to describe Muir is "thrawn", a Scottish word meaning beyond stubborn, as he came up against unreasonable opposition time and time again and shifted his position each time. ... Debating the issues is Muir expert Murray Armstrong, author of 'The Liberty Tree'. Matthew Parris presents.


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I hope that you understand that this is all supposed to lead up to something about that excellent example which is presently laying bare the real nature of Demockery ... The Labour & Cooperative Party minor celebrity talentlessness competition which will hopefully this time around persuade those hundreds of thousands who rushed to rejoin to get Jeremy Corbyn elected only to find that " The Enemy Within " created by Neil Kinnock - i.e. The Parliamentary Labour & Cooperative Party - is refusing to comply with their party's constitution because the MPs do not accept the result of the 2015 leadership election ... Hopefully they will finally give up on the non-political system called The Dis-United Kingdom and set about the task of either building their own Democratic Republican Party or joining the one which in fact already exists ( but is a bit Whiggish ) ... I believe that all of this demonstrates my claim that Democracy itself is the problem - there is no constitution which can be framed that The Demockerats in Every Party in Any Country can not subvert. It is not the case that it is only our Democracy which has been corrupted but that Democracy has corrupted every political system into which it has been incorporated : thus there can be no such thing as a " Democratic Republicanism " nor " Republican Democracy " because Democrats are Ultraists and therefore will oppose and persecute Republicans because we are Altruists.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37104864 - Labour leadership debate: Owen Smith suggests IS talks

" ... The pair also clashed over allegations of abuse within the Labour Party ... during a two-hour debate with Jeremy Corbyn on the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme. ... The audience of 100 Labour supporters in Nottingham repeatedly expressed concern about "abuse" between the two sides in the leadership contest. ... when Victoria Derbyshire suggested to the Labour leader the atmosphere within the party had become "toxic", Mr Corbyn hit back, asking: "Well, how do you know?" ... "

[ I CAUGHT A BIT OF THIS LIVE DEBATE THIS MORNING AND OWEN SMITH AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED CAME OVER AS A VERY LIGHTWEIGHT TALKING HORSE ]

Analysis By BBC Political Correspondent Adam Fleming
- " We knew that there were few major policy differences between the two men and that the real division was over who had the qualities to lead the Labour Party. ... The main thing I will take away from the debate is just how upset, angry, confused and hurt ordinary Labour members are about the state of their party. ... "

The debate between Smith and Corbyn can not be seen here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/37104865 - but at present there is a news feed about it there - which stopped at 11.13 am which just goes to show how little interest there has been in the programme - the BBC had by then already hustled the plebs out of their nice clean studio, struck the rickety set and were preparing to have it fumigated and then thoroughly scrubbed up ...

>sigh< and yet the popularity and so the value of Y Repwblic is still sinking -

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Now Ali Ahmed writes a nice letter_Yet the question must be - is he any better ?_Betty Campbell - I think - was surely the best_And Ben Foday the worst - but as for the rest_Whatever their party - they have not helped here = The behaviours that estranged me from CS&PLP in 1984 are visible in the PLP 2016

Now Ali Ahmed writes a nice letter_
Yet the question must be - is he any better ?_
Betty Campbell - I think - was surely the best_
And Ben Foday the worst - but as for the rest_
Whatever their party - they have not helped here.

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= The behaviours that estranged me from CS&PLP in 1984 are visible in the PLP 2016

Perhaps just in case you all thought that I was brim-full of personal hatred for every one of them as individuals : half a dozen of my friends ( not close friends ) are elected politicians - there is apparently even a more distant relation of mine who is one of the lesser known MPs embroiled in the Jeremy Corbyn leadership argument - but not all of them are The People in The Labour & Cooperative Party : I have ( not close ) friends who hold the whole spectrum of political opinions - two of them astounded me recently by joining UKIP which troubled me and therefore them because they were very passionate about " BREXIT ! " My departure into the wilderness of Pure Republicanism is generally being treated with a benign attitide - but sometimes I worry as to whether my gloomy prophesying of our doom does becomes a little too wearing for them - even though they agree with me sometimes, much to their chagrin ... Generally speaking therefore I prefer not to name individuals but stick to damning The Democrats in Wales and The World collectively in the hope that they will pull each others' socks up - it has to be a Republican collective colaborative method you see - not the adversive sectarian method of Democrats - to develop The General Will to promote The Public Interest as opposed to the contending for votes to assert a political authority based upon " Vox Populi - Vox Dei."

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Incidentally, I have been aware of but not mentioned the multiple shenanigans going on inside UKIP which as it gathers pace is also showing some examples of why Democracy is inherently corrupt : remember my drawing attention to BREXIT being funded by a dozen or so wealthy bankers when The EU was about to change the rules and introduce the same open borders policy for banking and insurance which threatened the profits of The City in London ? The major donor seemed to be Arron Banks ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/37116098 - UKIP's Lisa Duffy says donor Arron Banks using party as 'puppet'

" One of UKIP's leadership candidates has accused the party's main donor of trying to use it as his "puppet". ... Lisa Duffy said the dominance of Arron Banks in UKIP's funding was "not healthy" for the party. ... Mr Banks, a close ally of former leader Nigel Farage, recently said UKIP needed to be reformed "root and branch" and suggested he could back a new party. ... Speaking after a hustings in Newport, South Wales, she [ Lisa Duffy ] said: "The danger of only having one donor is that one person then could put the pressure on the party to ask and demand for things to happen, so they basically can use the party as their puppet. ... "We've spent 23 years building up UKIP. UKIP is fantastic. UKIP's here for the future. It's not the puppet of one man." ... Mr Banks, a former Tory donor, has donated more than £1m to UKIP and spent £5.6m of his personal fortune on funding the UKIP-backed Leave.EU campaign. ... The Bristol-based insurance magnate recently said there had been an attempted "coup" involving the NEC and UKIP's only MP, Douglas Carswell, and suggested the party might have run its course. ... " ... ( & THERE WAS MORE ) ...

[ AND REPUBLICAN POLITICAL THEORY STATES THAT ... " REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY " IS NOT DEMOCRACY AT ALL - IT DEVELOPED OUT OF THE ARISTOCRATS DELEGATING THE DAY TO DAY BUSINESS OF THE ADMINISTRATION OF THEIR PROPERTY ( I.E. WE - THE PEOPLE ) TO OTHERS AND THEN ( AFTER SHOOTING DOWN A LARGE NUMBER OF UNARMED PEOPLE PROTESTING ABOUT NOT HAVING ANY VOTES ) EVENTUALLY CHOOSING TO ACCOMMODATE THE DEMANDS FOR DEMOCRACY BY ALLOWING THE PEOPLE TO VOTE TO ELECT THEIR REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ARISTOCRATS' CHOICE OF CANDIDATES - AND IN THE UK WE THE PEOPLE DO NOT EVEN HAVE THE BENEFIT OF A CONSTITUTION : ALL OF OUR " RIGHTS " ARE NOTHING OF THE SORT - THEY ARE TEMPORARY PRIVILEGES THAT CAN BE WITHDRAWN BY THOSE CLAIMING TO BE " THE DEMOCRATS " AT ANY MOMENT - ON A WHIM - FOREVER ! ]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-37117325 - UKIP's Neil Hamilton denies bullying 'big boy' Nathan Gill

" Neil Hamilton has denied bullying "big boy" Nathan Gill during a row which has seen the UKIP Wales leader quit the Welsh Assembly group to sit as an independent AM. ... A rift emerged in May after Mr Hamilton was chosen by a majority of UKIP's new seven AMs to lead them in the Senedd. ... Mr Gill then faced party calls to quit his European Parliament seat to focus on his assembly role but he refused. ... He will continue both roles but work independently in the assembly. ... [ = TWO FULL TIME SALARIES PAID FOR WORKING LESS THAN HALF THE REMUNERATED TIME IN EACH JOB ? - NICE WORK IF YOU CAN GET IT - BUT HOW DID HE GET EACH OF THESE JOBS ? - OH - YEAH : DEMOCRATICALLY ! ] ... While Mr Gill led the campaign which saw UKIP's first AMs elected in May, five of them - including Mr Hamilton - called him to honour his pledge to give up his seat in the European Parliament if elected to the assembly. ... [ BUT HIS REPLY WAS ] ... On leaving, Mr Gill said infighting had become a distraction from the group's work, but he insisted he was not leaving the party and would remain a UKIP MEP. ... [ SO MUCH FOR THE IDEA OF A PARTY THEN - HE CAN REFUSE THE DISCIPLINE OF MEMBERSHIP IN THE UKIP GROUP IN THE WELSH ASSEMBLY YET REMAIN A UKIP MEP IN WALES ! ] ... Sam Gould, who works for Mr Gill, said the Senedd group was "toxic" ... He said Mr Gill could "still support and lead the members here in Wales" but would no longer be associated with "what has become quite a toxic, infighting group in the assembly" ... "

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-36251304 - 10th May 2016 - UKIP's Farage attacks Hamilton's leadership victory

" UKIP leader Nigel Farage has attacked the decision to elect ex-Tory MP Neil Hamilton as leader of the party's new group in the Welsh Assembly. ... Mr Farage called UKIP AMs' choice of Mr Hamilton over Nathan Gill on Tuesday an "unjust" act of "deep ingratitude". ... Mr Gill remains leader of UKIP Wales, a position appointed by Mr Farage. ... Mr Hamilton responded: "We in Wales will give appropriate weight to the opinion of the MEP for the South East of England." ... [ I.E. FARAGE ] ... Mr Hamilton's salary will be £84,000 as leader of the UKIP assembly group. ... This consists of an AM's salary of £64,000, plus an additional payment for being leader of an opposition group. ... Some of those involved in UKIP's election campaign [ WITH GILL ? ] had expected to get jobs in the assembly group after the party won its first ever AMs in the 5 May election. ... But their hopes were dashed after the election of Neil Hamilton. ... "

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-37046408 - 11th August 2016 - UKIP AM says Nathan Gill's Senedd seat constantly empty

" A UKIP colleague of Nathan Gill has criticised the party's Welsh leader's record of participation in the Senedd. ... Michelle Brown, a North Wales AM, said the Wales MEP's assembly seat was "constantly" empty. ....Assembly records show that - other than the vote for first minister - Mr Gill has taken part in one vote in the Senedd since his election in May. ... A source close to Mr Gill said he contributes fully as an AM, pointing to his constituency work. ... [ ? ] ... Ms Brown claimed that since the referendum Mr Gill had "attended one session, which he left half way through". ... Ms Brown said: "Not voting in the Senedd is denying a voice to those that put their faith in you. ... The source close to Mr Gill said: ... "He has contributed fully as an AM," the source said, adding: "Some AMs choose to vote on every little technicality while others prioritise constituency work and public engagement." ... "


THEREFORE " REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY " CONSISTS OF REPRESENTING YOURSELF IN THE CONSTITUENCY NOT THE CONSTITUENCY IN THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY ... I.E. IT IS ABOUT GETTING ELECTED NOT ABOUT DOING POLITICS ... THE PEOPLE IN WALES HOWEVER KNOW NOTHING OF POLITICS BECAUSE THE UNITED KINGDOM IS NOT A POLITICAL SYSTEM FOR CONTROLLING THE STATE BUT A FRAUDULENT SYSTEM FOR CONTROLLING THE PEOPLE - A STATE WITHOUT A CONSTITUTION AND THEREFORE WITHOUT ANY MEANS TO RESTRAIN THE WORST EXCESSES OF THE ULTRAISTS' BEHAVIOURS - " THERE ARE NO ULTRAISTS IN WALES " BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RESTRAINTS TO SET THE BOUNDARIES WHICH DETERMINE WHETHER THE BEHAVIOUR OF THE DEMOCRATS IN WALES IS TRANSGRESSING THEM AND THUS CAN BE DESCRIBED AS " ULTRA " - " BEYOND " - AND THEREFORE NOR CAN WE HAVE THE MEANS TO PREVENT ANY OF THE OTHER ULTRAISMS BEING PRACTICED AGAINST THE PEOPLE IN WALES UNTIL WE HAVE THE POLITICAL IDEALS OF REPUBLICANISM RESTORED TO OUR NATIONAL PUBLIC DISCOURSE.
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The Democrats are all dysfunctional_And their behaviours are quite irrational_For example : here is a point that they keep missing_When The People's Babies they are kissing -_The Paedophiles will all approve and think of this as normal ! = introduces = http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=3894#3894

The Democrats are all dysfunctional_
And their behaviours are quite irrational_
For example : here is a point that they keep missing_
When The People's Babies they are kissing -_
The Paedophiles will all approve and think of this as normal !

= dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b077ggvf - BBC Radio 4 - Great Lives : Ray Peacock on Lenny Bruce

I have found myself in the mood to listen to several of these recently - easy listening for a tired mind - certainly I am tired of what R4 & other BBC radio and television and digital stations broadcast as comedy : Lenny Bruce would not be broadcast by the BBC nor any other mainstream media now ... Just as when Lenny Bruce was on stage publicly shocking audiences with their own use of language and their own bigoted opinions as expressed privately, holding up a mirror for them to see themselves and the hurt and harm that they were doing as a consequence, and people were outraged that he spoke those words and named those ideas - and despite the fact that he broke no laws they set out to silence him rather than have to think about what he was saying - so now the idea of risky humour as allowed by those who support The United Kingdom is limited to what rebellious teenagers might affront their parents with -

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Bruce

- and the BBC is now full of comedians who find mindless morons to stand in front of a microphone and whisper " bum " and then uncontrollably snigger to himself or herself or itself whilst a couple of the stage crew stand either side of the audience prompting them with placards to " snigger " - " chortle " - " guffaw " - " hurrah " - " laugh you idle dilletantes - the tickets are free ! " ... Of course it is a long time since I actually went to any of the events - Daf & I used to go to be in the audiences when BBC Radio Wales recorded " The Ll Files " but we sat at the back of course and discussed the matter from a technical point of view - still, the material was not bad for topical satirical material based upon that week's news events ... but the show was driven off the airwaves by its biggest rival - the long-running farce being shown daily down at The Welsh Assembly whose jokers mostly just stand in front of a microphone and do not even need to bother to try to say anything as funny as " bum " before we all fall about laughing at them ...

" Take [ CENSORED ] the [ CENSORED ] to say " [ CENSORED ] " and you take [ CENSORED ] the [ CENSORED ] to say " [ CENSORED ] the [ CENSORED ] " - A [ CENSORED ] from the [ CENSORED ] [ CENSORED ] [ CENSORED ]

http://nlcatp.org/18-most-famous-lenny-bruce-quotes/ = quotes & videos ... Having just heard the gag in " Alone " I wrote this one for Lenny - gaaaarn - 03.00am - an' I wus triyin tu bee gewd !

She finally chose to commit to suicide_
And this she did with a sense of pride :_
So at first she went out for a manicure_
And then she bought some new make-up - and had a coiffure -_
But which dress to die for - ? - She could not decide !
But what dress to drop dead for - she could not decide ... [ NICER RHYTHM ? ]

= dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !

She finally chose to commit to suicide_And this she did with a sense of pride :_So at first she went out for a manicure_And then she bought some new make-up - and had a coiffure -_But what dress to drop dead for - she could not decide ...


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Listening to the BBC R4 midnight news ... maybe I should say a bit more about my opinion re the present crisis in The Labour & Cooperative Party : obviously I welcome it because this is a bloodletting which is long overdue - but I am not happy about the way in which it has been precipitated accidentally by a change in the rules about who could have a vote in the party's leadership elections which had unforeseen consequences ... Friends urged me to forget all of this nonsense about " Pure Republicanism " and politics being about facts and arguments not parties and voting and to purchase my vote in The Labour & Cooperative Party leadership election last year and so really change politics for the better by getting Jeremy Corbyn elected ... these were not Trotskyist infiltrators but lapsed party members who had been hurt and offended and had become disaffected over the decades - but not in my view dis-illusioned : they are still caught up in The Delusion of Democracy ...

... They believe that the basis of politics is that of acquiring power over The State or The Party or The Campaign or The Coffee Table or The Marital Bed or The Cross Word ... hence their sudden excitement at the idea that they could flood back into The Labour & Cooperative Party in their hundreds of thousands and wrest control of it from those who used other methods to seize power over it in the 1980s ... On the one hand it would be nice if " Old Labour " defeats " New Labour " and Jeremy Corbyn is confirmed as leader - but nobody should be so deluded as to think that this will change anything about this party or any other party e.g. UKIP : it just means that one private interest group has triumphed over another e.g. in The Conservative & Unionist Party after The EU Referendum there was openly conducted sectarian warfare for several days followed by cynical calls for unity by those who had seized power by openly fixing their leadership election so that Theresa May had no opponents and so was simply annointed by that party's shadowy sponsors and then - in their own words - they enthroned her as The Dictator in Downing Street ...

... So we have now witessed the Democratic process of " coronation " - not election - and that is almost to the tee the reflection of the degree of the perfection of the corruption of the political parties in the non-political system not called by its supporters The Dis-United Kingdom even though it is tearing apart the society of The People on The Island Which is Not Called The United Kingdom. The non-political parties that we wrestle have been shaped by their participation in the corrupt non-political practices which characterise The United Kingdom as the non-political system created in 1688 when The Aristocrats took control and hired a king in order to avoid restoring The United Republic.

My own opinion on the matter is that rejoining The Labour & Cooperative Party will waste a lot of Momentum : those who subverted that party will not give it up without a fight and since they mostly control the money and property held by it those trying to break their hold on it will not only lose their patience in the forthcoming struggle but will also lose a lot of the energy, money and above all time which would be better spent upon building another party to try to win the 2020 UK General Election : I think that The Labour & Cooperative Party is not good for its professed purpose - and that despite the claims being made that Jeremy Corbyn is a radical the fact is that he is New Labour : if he really was an Altruist he would have resigned from this party - whether he wins or loses the fact is that he is a thorough-going Democrat.

SO - PLEASE STOP BLEATING - " BUT THIS IS NOT THE WAY DEMOCRACY SHOULD BE CONDUCTED ! " - THIS IS THE WAY THAT DEMOCRACY HAS BEEN AND IS BEING AND ALWAYS WILL BE CONDUCTED IN EVERY COUNTRY THAT LACKS AN INDEPENDENT JUDICIARY TO REGULATE THE STATE AND DEFEND IT FROM THE ULTRAISTS - HIEROCRATS, DEMOCRATS, ARISTOCRATS, MONOCRATS & ANY OTHER KINDS OF CRATS - SEEKING TO USE IT FOR THE PURSUIT OF THEIR OWN PRIVATE INTERESTS : THE ONLY BASIS FOR ANY KIND OF A FUNCTIONING POLITICAL SYSTEM MUST REST SOLELY UPON THE FACTS AND THE ARGUMENTS CONTENDED OVER THEM - AND THE POLITICAL AUTHORITY TO MAKE DECISIONS BELONGS TO THOSE WHO CAN PRESENT THEM ...

... " POWER POLITICS " IS AN OXYMORON AND THOSE WHO SEEK TO COERCE AND CONTROL THE STATE BY OBTAINING POWER OVER IT THROUGH DEMANDING IDEOLOGICAL CONFORMITY ( = HIEROCRATS ) OR EMOTIONAL MANIPLUATION ( = DEMOCRATS ) OR ECONOMIC ENSLAVEMENT ( = ARISTOCRATS ) OR VIOLENT COERCION ( = MONOCRATS ) OR ANY OTHER KINDS OF ULTRAISTIC METHOD - MUST BE ACCOUNTED AS CRIMINALS : IF THE RULE OF LAW IS OUR AGREED DESCRIPTION OF THE PUBLIC INTEREST THEN PROTECTING THE POLITICAL SYSTEMS BY WHICH WE MAKE OUR LAWS IS OUR GREATEST PUBLIC GOOD - AND THE ONLY POLITICAL IDEOLOGY WHICH THOROUGHLY DEBATES HOW TO DO THIS IS REPUBLICANISM - WHICH IS WHY THE SUPPORTERS OF THE UNITED KINGDOM AS A MEANS TO LAUNDER THE PROCEEDS OF THEIR CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES ARE SO ARDENTLY LOUD AND SHRILL IN DENOUNCING THE REPUBLICANS WHO WOULD JAIL THEM.
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PLEASE PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THIS : I AM DAVID B LAWRENCE - " dai repwblic " - & after 10 yrs repwblic.informe.com is now bigger in terms of file size & valuation than all of the websites of the registered UK political parties : we have a large audience overseas - but not in Wales because our stance politically is Internationalist & Pacifist - not Nationalist or Militarist. Our campaign is to make visible " Conversations with Wales' Republicans " so that others can understand that our political sentiments have been misrepresented by the supporters of The United Kingdom. One of our major concerns is that harassment of The Republicans in Wales has resulted in nobody being able to successfully found a Republican Party in Wales & this means that the 20% of the electorate who identify themselves as " Republican " have no possibility of voting according to their political sentiments i.e. to obtain a strongly constructed political system for Wales. I have for decades felt that those of us who publicly identify ourselves as being Republicans in Wales have a personal duty to find the courage, time and money to oppose and bring to an end the oppression of those who believe in Republicanism by The United Kingdom & to deliver to those 500,000+ people who privately identify themselves as being Republicans in Wales a publicly functioning political organisation to advocate for our political beliefs & to stop them being misrepresented. If this is to be a Republican Democratic Party ready for 2020's UK election we need 5,000+ people.

This has taken me suddenly and by surprise : I certainly do not think that I am the person to lead any sort of political party - but my judgement in these matters has always been good and somebody has to raise " Y Faner Wen " once more ... it is irresponsible not to try : no patriot in the face of overwhelming odds simply turns and runs - it is our duty to future generations and to all other nations to make our stand with them.


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I went to a party with Nathan Gill_But he was locked out so we sat on the cill_Where I asked him how he worked more than one job ... _This was when he looked away - before he punched my gob -_And then he left me there - but later sent me his bill.

I went to a party with Nathan Gill_
But he was locked out so we sat on the cill_
Where I asked him how he worked more than one job ... _
This was when he looked away - before he punched my gob -_
And then he left me there - but later sent me his bill.

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What provoked me to send out that SMS above - ten texts long - was reading this news story : the idea that UKIP have seven AMs whereas nobody can even get a Republican Democratic Party together really worries me ... UKIP advocates virtually everything which Republicans oppose ... let us not blame Brexit, Britshit or Bullshit - but blame ourselves for not delivering to The Republicans in Wales a political organisation that can collectively articulate and publicly advocate Republican politics.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-37133496 - UKIP's Nathan Gill says allegations against him 'bogus'

" UKIP MEP Nathan Gill said allegations he misused European parliamentary funds are "entirely bogus". ... OLAF, the European anti-fraud body, is looking into the claims, although North Wales Police has said it is no longer investigating the matter. ... It relates to alleged use of European parliamentary funds for party political purposes, such as election campaigning. ... Mr Gill announced on Wednesday he would sit as an independent member of the Welsh Assembly, following an acrimonious row with other UKIP members over whether he should he remain both an MEP and AM. ... Neil Hamilton, the leader of the UKIP group in the assembly, has called on Mr Gill to publish his expenses and expenditure as an MEP since being elected in 2014. ... "
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Nothing has appeared on the BBC News website yet because Owen Smith has only just finished speaking about what he is now offering to The Uncooperative Layabout Party : many of The People in Wales will like what he is saying because that is the nature of liars - they are very plausible and hence in Demockery the victory will go to the those who can successfully tell the biggest whoppers - it is like baiting their hooked lines with plausible purpoises in order to catch Wales' Wails ... Well this Great White Whaler is not impressed : the time to have declared such opinions and to advocate such proposals is not several weeks after challenging the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn - and if Owen Smith has not merely learned recently about some new things to lie about by suddenly wondering in the past few weeks what kinds of things that he might say in order to get himself elected - if he held such views beforehand and did not mention them : that is a form of lying too.

[ P.S. - I KNOW THAT I AM SUPPOSED TO BE STARBUCK IN MY HEAD BUT IN MY HEART I AM AHAB - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qdbug_mxKks ]

However even if Jeremy Corbyn is elected as leader the fact is that he too chose to continue with The Labour & Cooperative Party through the successive leaderships of Kinnock, Blair and Brown : if Jeremy Corbyn is who he says he is why did he not resign from a party whose politics he does not share ? ... As far as I can see Jeremy Corbyn does not lie to others but to himself : he is a Democrat and whatever their intentions - sincerely professed or not - Democrats are Ultraists whichever party they belong to ... and since Ultraism is about transgressing the bounds of legitimate behaviour in the pursuit of power then it follows that Democrats are eager to work with Aristocrats, Monocrats, Hierocrats - indeed they are all -rats. Vote if you want to for whichever kind of poison it is that you prefer - but do not complain about the fact that they lied to you afterwards - for you all know that voting only encourages them and the way to peaceably stop them is to stop voting and to refuse to endorse their non-political system by taking your name off The Electoral Register : their claims to your electoral endorsement are already discredited and The Democrats in Wales do know this because already fewer than 50% of The People in Wales bother to vote for any of their parties. The United Kingdom as a non-political system is clearly broken - so please do not be so stupid as to try once more to fix it : wrap it up carefully and put it where it belongs - in the dustbin of history.

[ P.P.S. OF COURSE MOBY DICK MAY WELL BE THE WHITE REPUBLICAN OF WHALES - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eLTlfljynV4 ]

Interesting to me : amongst those Moby Dick videos there was offered one from that John (ap) Adams drama-doc -

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ihEDsOYkV3Q

A better one - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yiEO1jQcSjc
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Well I can not possibly cover everything with my ejaculations of The White Stuff ... but one of the things which I am not paying enough attention to is what is taking shape in the name of Anti-Muslimism - WPS ! - Anti-Terrorism ... i.e. what The Democrats in Westminster are up to now is that well-known aspect of Democratic behaviour - suppressing their critics by alleging that holding a point of view which " terrifies " them ( i.e. threatens The Democrats with the prospect of being arrested, tried and jailed for their crimes ) makes those who differ from them into " terrorists." Of course this strategy has already been discredited over two hundred years ago so - despite The Conservative & Unionist Party's die-hards wanting to bring back hanging in order to put an end to these preposterous appeal court decisions which reveal how the police and magistrates are framing up and falsely convicting The People - so ... so we now have Terrorista May adopting a new strategy in order to jail those whose political opinions she disagrees with ...

" Er ... Jeremy ! ... If you could spare a moment ... I would like to have a word with you about ... well - look : we all know that you have had something to do with terrorism in the past - not that I am asserting that you are in fact a terrorist - yet - but I am worried about this group that has gathered around you - " Mohammedamnentrium " - because they clearly are radical and they clearly are trying to radicalise you ... so : Jeremy - have you been radicalised - yet ? "

" No Theresa - I have not ... I am not a radical - I have never been a radical - and I never will be a radical - and that is my final statement on the matter : please go away ! "

" Jeremy ... Jerr-rry ... J-Luvvy-Duvvy-Dinky-Dumbo ! ... look : I only have your own best interests at heart - to save you from being drawn into a distorted and paranoid world view in which you imagine there to be enemies all around you - the sort of world view in which you imagine your government - my government - to be deliberately harming The People and that only you - as a lone individual - can mount any effective opposition to us ... "

" No Theresa - I am not imagine myself to be surrounded by enemies - in my opinion I am surrounded by friends who have misconstrued my intentions and who will willingly work with me once I have clearly explained myself - although it is easy to imagine why I could be construed by others to imagine my situation to be as you have described it - it is not ... "

" Jer-Jer-Jer-Jerummy ... I want ... need ... you to confess the errors in your perceptions of things : now I know that Owen Smith has already said a few words to you about your lack of judgement - but nobody is going to stand in judgment over you because we could not afford the bad publicity at present - but we may convict you of something later ... so do please be careful ... look : I would like you to talk to this nice young lady that I know from " CHANNEL " - which is one of the projects of " PREVENT " - which is a programme within " CONTEST " - which is part of the Counter-Terrorism Strategy which is being administered by CONSERVATIVE HOME ... oh - actually that is - or rather was - a secret ... Anyway - do not worry - there is nothing to worry about : they all report to me - and after all I am The Prime Minister of The United Kingdom and therefore I am God - or in my case - The Goddess of All of The Libertines ... after all - the non-political principle of " Sovereignty " licences me to do whatever I please to whomsover I please and to owe nobody neither an apology nor an explanation - least of all you ... and so you really would not want to stop me - would you ... my little Jerrikan ? "

" Er ... well - yes I do want to stop you actually ... if you do not mind : I am after all The Leader of The Opposition and ... "

" POLICE !!! - HELP !!! - POLICE !!! - TERRORIST !!! - POLICE !!! - WE IS BEING ASSAULTED - WE IS BEING THREATENED - ISN'T WE THERESA ? -YES THERESA-YOUWILLKEEPMESAFEFROMHIMANDHISMILLIONSOFMADMENWOMENDOGSDOLLSANDOOOWOWOOWOWOOO ... >sob< ... I want my mummy ... THERE THERE THERE - LET US SUCK OUR THUMB TOGETHER THERESA - THANK YOU THERESA - YOU ARE MY BEST FRIEND - YES - I AM THERESA - BUT YOU ARE SLEEPING WITH MY BOYFRIEND - I AM NOT I AM MARRIED TO HIM - I WILL SOON SEE ABOUT THAT - NO-NO-No-no ... i will do anything you want ... WHAT I WANT IS TO BE MY OWN WOMAN - I WANT YOU OUT OF MY BRAIN - MY BODY - MY LIFE - AND MY GOVERNMENT ... oh-no-no-please-no-o-oo-o-oo-o-oo-o-oo-ooo-oooo-ooooo-oooooo ! ... "

[ BASICALLY WHAT THERESA MAY HAS REVIVED IS WILLIAM PITT'S STRATEGY : IT IS A COMMONPLACE HERE IN THE UK - BUT UNLIKE IN THE USA WHERE MCCARTHY & CO HAD THE GUTS TO DO IT THEMSELVES OUR NON-POLITICIANS REFUSE TO BE PUBLICLY ACCOUNTABLE AND COMMISSION OTHERS TO PERFORM THEIR CRIMES FOR THEM : JUST BECAUSE A GOVERNMENT MAKES A LAW AND PAYS FOR ITS ADMINISTRATION IN AN ORDERLY WAY, HIRING AN ARTIST TO PUT A LOGO ON IT AND THEN HAVE AN ADVERTISING AGENCY DEVISE A MARKETING SCHEME IN ORDER TO SELL IT, DOES NOT MAKE THAT LAW JUST ... THE FOLLOWING DEMONSTRATES TO ME WHERE THE PEOPLE IN WALES ARE HEADED AS A SOCIETY AS A RESULT OF OUR CONTINUING TO ACCEPT THE NON-PRINCIPLE OF " SOVEREIGNTY " WHICH LICENCES THESE DOWNING STREET DICTATORSHIPS - LEFT, RIGHT OR CENTRE - TO PREDATE UPON WHOM THEY PLEASE : THIS IS NOT POLITICS ! ]

https://www.cheshire.police.uk/advice-and-support/terrorism-and-major-incidents/prevent-and-channel-guidance-for-partner-agencies/

" Prevent forms part of the government’s Counter Terrorism strategy called Contest. The aim of Prevent is to stop people becoming or supporting terrorists, by challenging the spread of terrorist ideology, supporting vulnerable individuals, and working in key sectors and institutions. ... Prevent is not about catching terrorists, it is about ... ‘spying on communities’ ... Those suspected of being engaged in illegal activity ... Prevent work covers all forms of potential terrorism, such as islamic extremism, the far right, Irish republican, animal rights and others. ... "
.... especially those vicious vegetarian activists ... " ... One of the main elements of our Prevent work is a programme called Channel, whereby people who are assessed as being vulnerable to supporting violent extremism are provided with multi-agency support. ... The support that is offered is tailored for each case, and could consist of help with family problems, mental health support, mentoring, religious support and others. ... " ... We apply pressure to all of those around a person who holds an opinion which The Democrats in Westminster disagree with in order to terrorise them into policing upon our behalf their own family and friends, their work colleagues and co-religionists etc thus ensuring that we - the shadowy figures who clothe ourselves in the borrowed appearance of authority - never have to face any legal challenges in court rooms because we have no evidence ... " ... People who are referred to Channel are not criminals; but may be at risk of committing an offence if not supported. ... " ... " We do not of course suspect everyone - because we are only allowed to keep files upon those who have not been elected ! "

The Cheshire Police's webpage seemed apposite for my purpose - by presenting an easy target for ridicule - but on the BBC Radio 4 lunchtime news today was an important article relating to this which was - was - was - was apparently not otherwise reported ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37162567/radio-1-dj-nick-grimshaw-flips-his-car-on-to-its-side-while-avoiding-a-ginger-cat - Radio 1 DJ Nick Grimshaw flips his car on to its side while avoiding a ginger cat - er ... no - not that one ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-37163566 - Archbishop of Wales Dr Barry Morgan to retire in 2017 - er ... no ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37167700 - Virgin challenges Jeremy Corbyn train footage - er ... does anyone care about who is lying any more - in any media ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37164237 - Outcry after Tesco drops saltires from Scottish berries - um ... " Scots Nats deep-fry Tescos before eating them alive " ? ... " Tesco blow - raspberries next " ... ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-37158418 - New Badger Trials : viciously homocidal - allegedly Republican and immigrants from Wales - mammals suspected of something - anything - everything - and fleas !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36977279 - " You could describe it as a political form of Tinder." - ... ... ... ... ( Oh - I give up : is that what people really want from politics - app-iness ? )

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-37168749 - Prestatyn 'uninhabitable' home mum receives suspended sentence

" ... Police said the "virtually uninhabitable" Prestatyn home stank of rotten food, faeces and cigarettes. ... The mother, 39, who cannot be named, admitted three counts of neglect ... she was given a 16-week prison sentence, suspended for 12 months. ... Magistrates issued a warrant for the children's father, who faces identical charges, after hearing he was seriously ill in hospital. ... The court heard the mother spent weeks in hospital recovering from septicaemia and, when interviewed, she said she had been ill for a fortnight and was unable to get out of bed when her condition deteriorated. ... When shown photographs of the living conditions, she became upset and accepted she should have gone to hospital sooner and ensured the children were cared for. ... "


I thought that I was going to knock this on the head and think about eating - may be - but ... there is the really difficult stuff : my gut reaction is to ask why The Democrats think that it is a good idea to prosecute a legal case concerning a a filthy home strewn with things dangerous to children against a junkie mother of three whose plight was only discovered because she fell ill ... frankly - where should our priorities in spending money be located : court cases like this cost thousands to conduct and to fine and award costs against a poverty-stricken person of any sort who has not willfully harmed another is surely wrong - far better to spend this money to pay for someone to clean her home, to take her children to school and befriend her to get her life back towards normal before the problem of drug abuse is addressed ... but The Democrats have organised the politics of budgeting in such a way that such choices can often not be made because the officers in councils etc can only spend their money in specified and limited ways e.g. they can not take money out of the budget for free opera tickets for councilors and put it towards providing more youth workers or a property investment - even if the lack of youth workers has resulted in the need for a property investment because the youths in question were envious of the councilors receiving free opera tickets and so revengefully burned the city's opera house down ... and yet they say that The Kids in Wales and The World lack initiative, drive and imagination - eh ? ... Surely all that The Kinder in Wales and The World really ever need and really ever want to do today is to put on their own productions of " Rienzi " ... ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rienzi ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cola_di_Rienzo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVGAbaNVsfc - Rienzi - Richard Wagner - Original - Fassung 1842 - BBC Northern Symphonic Orchestra 1976 - ( 4hrs+40mins )
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07pgw3k - " How we voted Brexit "

Well I am laying here listening to " How we voted Brexit " - an account in their own words as to what happened by some of those involved at the highest level - more smoke than light I think in explaining themselves ... But clearly this is all a matter of raking over the ashes in the hope of finding the causes of this conflaguration ... but there are no smoking buns to examine - just a load of currents left which are leading us who knows where.

A couple of posts above I quoted a text that I had sent out and I can hardly ignore the fact that I both sent it and declared it here ... It was I think not such a strange thing to do but a necessary one ... But it was not so much a plan but a prophecy : we have to do something - we need to have a means to protect ourselves from becoming the subject of allegations by The Democrats in Wales who in all likelyhood as the consequences of " Brexit " begin to bear down on our society will deflect the blame from themselves by looking to direct the unfocussed anger of unhappy people onto some political minority that everybody will automatically agree is to blame because they know nothing of the reality of them but know that they are different and therefore a threat to everything which they agree with ... Having got rid of The People in Europe they will no longer be able to blame The European Union and if the present level of racism carries on increasing then there may be no one left to blame but themselves which they will not accept either - so in imagining an " enemy within " they may well pick on The Republicans in Wales again ... Without even knowing that the phrase " The Enemy Within " is a quotation from the author of the book " De Re Publica " - from where we get the name of our politics - Cicero : the famous Republican.

" An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear."

Marcus Tullius Cicero -


I think that I will now sign off this thread by disclosing something that was on my mind before I made that surprising - perhaps stupid - announcement : something which risks exactly what I have just been worrying about to you but have not named - the allegation that when a Republican describes the risks of civil disorder being raised by the stupid behaviours of The Democrats in Wales and The World we are inciting not predicting violence ... I agree that there is the risk involved of exciting feeble minds by mentioning such things - but here is what I encountered recently on what I regard as my home turf in Butetown, in the south eastern quarter of our city-within-a-city where The Welsh Assembly meets in " Y Senedd " i.e. " The Senate " containing our " National Assembly " which has a conical " pyramid " roof topped by a weather vane that is shaped like a " phrygian cap " - everything invoking the culture of Republicanism but the useof the word is frowned upon !

I encountered two South Wales Police officers carrying sub-machine guns and for no obvious purpose other than to be seen by The People in Butetown of which there were a lot that day because there was a sort of festival going on - I forget the name of it but there was a steel band and an opportunity to think that we are still grand and even to steal sand etc - now - I do not care how you feel about guns but whilst I can accept them as useful farm implements I find no reason for anyone to appear on our streets with them : I not only regarded this a gratuitous posing for no good reason but also I found it to be extremely offensive to see little children running around with the sight of sub-machine guns in the hands of police officers being made normal for them.

That I believe was the main effect of the exercise even if the intention was different : there was surely no strategic defence reason for armed officers to be standing outside Ty Senedd - this was a political statement being made either by The Welsh Government or The South Wales Police. They may have many explanations for this behaviour such as them being there because of hightened security - ( then why not get the army in who know how to defend buildings with guns - which you do not do by presenting police officers as targets to be shot at ) - I think that the most plausible explanation is that the real targets of such behaviour are the minds of The People in Wales, that the intention is to create in them an increased sense of threat - which The Democrats in Wales probably think is very clever - but which I think is definitely very stupid.

When I talk of " black factions " I am not referring to any specific group excepting that I view The United Kingdom as being able to draw upon at least two " black factions " - one military and openly conducted and the other paramilitary and covertly conducted. Violence breeds violence and whilst Democrats view non-state paramilitaries as being beyond their control and therefore not lawful - Republicans do not think of paramilitaries as being unlawful in terms of The Natural Law because they usually coelesce in opposition to the violence of The State and this of course is presently under the control of The Democrats in Wales : theirs is not The Right Hand Path of Dextrous Politics - of Altruism which Republicanism recommends - but it is what Republicans observe to lead into a spiral of further violences - The Left Hand Path of Sinister Politics i.e. of Ultraism.

Therefore I repeat that Republicanism describes how The World works and predicts the consequences of such Sinister activities - hence I am predicting that The Welsh Government is stupidly or - even worse - deliberately risking these South Wales Police officers openly carrying sub-machine guns being perceived as a challenge to a fight in the minds of those in whom they have cultivated their own paranoid view of The World ... My advice is that the police forces in Wales keep such weapons out of sight until they are needed - please - and for Common Sense' sake let us not allow guns to become normal on our streets - it is bad enough that our children are being brought up on a mental diet of war films and violent video games in order to draw them easily into The Bloody Plans of The Democrats in Westminster.

RED REVOLUTION

The Revolution it has been said_
In Wales will feature no bloodshed_
The Democrats will quietly yield_
And The Republicans will take the field_
And then we'll paint each post box red !

= dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts the moral right - not to sue for copyright !


And the moral of that pretty ditty is that The Republicans in Wales are WELSH Republicans : our political analysis is different but our morals and ethics are always WELSH and so we subscribe to the same norms as our society - except that we perceive the political system of The People in Wales in a different way to that of The Democrats in Wales ... We have exactly the same diversity of political opinions - Conservative, Fascist, Liberal, Anarchist, Socialist, Communist etc - but we disagree with those who subscribe to using Democratic methods - because these are clearly not founded upon facts and arguments and are therefore non-political methods : we are The Altruists who want a proper political system where those making the laws and policies which deploy the The State to enforce them can not be coerced by sectarian private interests using the various forms of power politics exercised by The Ultraists - Hierocrats, Democrats, Aristocrats, Monocrats - which attack The Public Interest i.e. we support and advocate for " De Re Publica." To put that another way : Republicans want a political system in which The State is The Property of The People - not this vice perversa of enslavement to The United Kingdom.

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POST SCRIPT - My emphasising above that we are " WELSH Republicans " - which echoes the term " Welsh Republicans " as used by Nationalist Republicans e.g. Cymru Rydd - is slightly differentiated for the purposes of emphasis - there really are cultural differences between the WELSH and the ENGLISH quite besides the fact that a proprtion of " The People in Wales " conduct their daily lives through the medium of Cymraeg. I use the terms " The Republicans in Wales " and " The People in Wales " for the purposes of accuracy, inclusivity, eccentricity and above all to stamp my writing with a Mannaerism that emphasises that mine is the classical Republican stance - Nomocratic and Cosmopolitan - rather than merely spewing out a surfeit of ridiculous sentimentalities ... I never really feel Welsh until I am in a foreign country - where it often proves to be convenient to declare as my Dad did that he was " NOT ENGLISH ! " - and whilst I often get a sense of coming home when I am crossing the Severn Sea and glimpse the waters shimmering beneath the bridges the places that speak more of that to me are any of the roads leading into the Rhondda Valleys where I immediately sense both how I relate to The People in The Rhondda - and how I do not : I live elsewhere and am very much a product of my own history as they are of theirs. This kind of localised sense of individual identity is I think far more powerful than notions of nations because it is grounded in reality - and thus it means that it is only ever individuals who possess political authority - but only ever because of the facts and arguments which they can cite from their own lives : Republican political arguments are founded upon the realities of The Lives in Our Societies - whereas Democratic politics is founded upon dreams and results in nightmares.

Now perhaps you have never encountered The People in Wales - see if you can contrive to listen to these conversations and understand us :

" The Listening Project " is reporting from Swansea - conversations with locals - pleasurable interesting things said =

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07pj81y
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brexit should mean that we are Free and Independent by the Grace of God Amen.

It aint happening because the evil Tory gumment still has the Power.

Therefore we will never be Free and Independent until we arm the Worker etc etc etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charm the Workers ... and disarm the supporters of The United Kingdom !

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37271417

( Finally The House of Commons will debate the petition for a second EU Referendum - the guy who started it is upset because he voted " Leave " - ! )
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-37461370 - Owen Smith: Jeremy Corbyn won 'decisive' victory

Well I supposed that this thread ought to be ended but the repercussions are still going on ... Jeremy Corbyn was re-elected despite the attempts to prevent him - as the elected leader being challenged by a pair of useless outsiders - from being able to stand for election ... and - surprise, surprise - he was returned with 61.8% ... so of course those MPs who want to be rid of him immediately started upon some new schemes exclude him and his supporters from their party : welcome to the wonderful world of The Demockerats in Wales and The World ... in this leadership election the Parliamentary Labour Party had already managed to get control of The Electoral Register of the Labour and Cooperative Party and contrived to refuse voting rights to 200,000 - so if they were all supporters of Jeremy Corbyn he might have had 80% of the vote ... yet the Parliamentary Labour Party is now so estranged from even the bare basics of Democratic theory tat they think that the result of the vote is " wrong " - and in itself this demonstrates what Republicans argue : that Democracy is merely a selection procedure after which the electorate get to vote for the con artists of the party's choice - the candidates are chosen because of their talents in deceiving the electorate in order to get elected and their obedience to those who provide them not only with much bigger salaries but much more job security that their electors ...

... Politics does not come into Democracy because it is primarily about the pursuit of cash and secondarily power and thirdly - or rather firstly by invoking " Sovereignty " - the avoidance of actually doing anything or - if it is necessary to do something - then the avoidance of any accountability for doing anything ( as often as not by invoking the Official Secrets Act so nobody knows what they have done - as often as not they do not even know what they have done themselves ) ... Democracy is simply another version of that oxymoron " Power Politics " and what Democrats practice is " politicking " like this -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-37454255 - Labour suspends members in Bristol for 'breaking party rules'

Two hundred Labour members in Bristol have been suspended for allegedly breaking party rules, the chair of the local party has claimed. ... Eileen Means said the cause of "hundreds" of suspensions was unclear as the party had failed to notify them. ... She said the process was "extremely unfair" as those affected "don't know what offence they've committed". ... A Labour spokesman said those suspended will also have their votes cancelled in the party's leadership elections. ... The party added it has a "robust validation process" to ensure all votes meet "Labour Party rules". ... [ AND ] ... During the past month, three Labour councillors - Harriet Bradley, Hibaq Jama, and Mike Langley - have been suspended, pending further investigations, costing the party its majority on the city council. ... In a statement, Labour said it would not comment on individual cases but confirmed decisions "about individual members" was taken by the NEC. ... [ I.E. THESE COUNCILLORS WERE NOT SUSPENDED BY THEIR LOCAL PARTY FOR TRANSGRESSIONS - BUT BY THEIR COMIC CZARS IN LONDON ... ]
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There has been an exquisite amount of examples demon-strating demon-ocratic practices since The EU Referendum - but there has not been much worth discussing ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37572377 - UKIP's Steven Woolfe says he's 'fine' after altercation

" UKIP leadership hopeful Steven Woolfe says he is recovering in hospital after a reported fight at a meeting of the party's MEPs. ... UKIP sources said "punches were exchanged" during the row at a party meeting and Mr Woolfe banged his head. ... He was taken to hospital two hours later after collapsing, sources said. ... UKIP chairman Paul Oakden told the BBC's Newsnight programme he was "in the process of trying to find out" what happened, and would take "appropriate action" if necessary. ... Meanwhile UKIP financial backer Arron Banks has said the party is at "breaking point" and criticised UKIP's leader in Wales, Neil Hamilton, over comments he made in television interviews where he appeared to blame Mr Woolfe for events, "before anyone knew if Steven was going to be OK". ... Mr Banks threatened to leave UKIP if that Mr Woolfe was blocked from running for leader and if Mr Hamilton and UKIP's sole MP, Douglas Carswell, remained in the party. ... ... ... Mr Farage said on Wednesday he would return as UKIP's interim leader until a fresh election could be held to find a successor to Diane James. ... Ms James announced her resignation after just 18 days in the job, citing professional and personal reasons for her decision. ... "
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