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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:20 pm    Post subject: organise Reply with quote

Dafydd tells me that Private Eye refers to Capita as Crapita which sounds about right.

He says we have to organise, but I don't remember ever organising anything from scratch. I have a feeling that I couldn't organise the proverbial piss up in a brewery, but I may be being too modest. You can't know till you try.

Of course if we can find existing organisations, that would save a lot of effort. We could just become active members.

We could ask our MPs for assistance, but mine's a Tory which is a shame. One site on how cripples can best get rid of the Tories has a regional map you can click on. It shows whom you should vote for, from a strategic point of view, to get the Tories out.

Any cripple who votes Tory is a turkey voting for Christmas. I would be loath even to vote Lib Dem, but we must consider all options.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So nice to wake in the morning to find that you have been writing again Marianne ... in the post before I listed all of those videos ( column 5 ? ) I mentioned finding -

https://dpac.uk.net/contact-details-for-local-dpac-groups/

Wrexham – Sue Fortune – sfortune AT Safe-mail.net

Cardiff- Peter Davies: peterdaviescymru AT gmail.com

[ AND APPARENTLY THAT IS IT FOR WALES - THAT IS NOT GOOD IS IT ? ]

https://dpac.uk.net/contact/ - write for more information to - mail AT dpac.uk.net

- and I tried to contact Peter Davies to find out what kind of organisation exists ( and he did not reply : perhaps that typical prejudice against Republicans ? ) ... If there is no such organisation perhaps we could try to seed one but pretending to lead such things is really hijacking somebody else's issue for the purposes of self-promotion which is the behaviour of Democrats not Republicans ... Obviously there are at least tens of thousands of The People in Wales in trouble with Capita and The DWP over PIP so in theory it should not be difficult to get together a room full of people and within such a room there ought to be two or three capable of founding and creating an organisation ... The role which we could volunteer for is facilitating such a meeting to enable them to meet and organise themselves instead of being isolated from each other - but the problem is how to contact them : the DWP are not about to hand out lists of addresses and the internet is too hit and miss and because of them being scattered all over and their subsequent isolation word of mouth is of no use. How about writing to organisations like MIND where they will be seeking advice - indeed there must be benefits advice centres - and MPs must be dealing with their distress in their surgeries - and of course GPs surgeries will be full of distressed people ...

... In the first instance I think that we ought to try to contact various advocacy groups like DPAC who will be better informed than we are : are you in the mood to write a few emails in order to make some inquiries ?

The UK General Election of course is the obvious opportunity to advocate about it : staggeringly - despite it being such a contentious issue which is plunging so many into deeper distress and perversely impoverishing them - The BBC has no recent prominent news items upon the matter of PIP : searching bbc.co.uk for " PIP Capita " produces only one article this year ... well at least somebody is getting some PIP money out of The DWP ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39599331

Disability benefits: PIPs assessment firms 'to get extra £200m' - 14 April 2017

Two private firms that assess people claiming disability benefits will get nearly £200m more than officials had originally expected, figures suggest. ... The UK government had estimated that Atos and Capita would earn £512m for Personal Independence Payments (PIPs) assessments between 2013 and 2017. ... But analysis by the Press Association suggests they will actually get £700m.

Nothing on these pages today - yet surely this should be a major election issue ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/disability

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 7:28 am    Post subject: dpac Reply with quote

Yes, thank you for doing the research. I have heard of DPAC of course. Do you and Peter Davies know each other from the past?

I even wonder about the wisdom of a public meeting where anyone can come. We might want to discuss strategies in a conspiratorial way, depending on what they are going to be. Dafydd and I expected to see you at his on Tuesday of last week, but I had the date wrong which may have caused confusion.

You could get the impression there is a conspiracy of silence as the public in general is just passively tolerating this human rights abuse, and yet it is not a secret. Anyone who wants to, can get info' on it. Maybe, it's so depressing that people who are not personally affected, prefer to look away. Even those of us who are affected, find it difficult to engage with. It's so horrible. You can understand people not wanting to think about it.

I think of what Bonhoeffer said here. He found it difficult to get over his Lutheran upbringing which instilled non resistance to the state. He finally argued himself into the position that the government in the Nazi era was not a government but a criminal conspiracy.

I see no contradiction. Re cripples, the Tory government is a government and it is also a criminal conspiracy.
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 7:39 am    Post subject: Ominum Reply with quote

A manila envelope came for me again before the bank holiday. This time it was from Crapita.

On Tuesday I managed to get someone at the Citizens' Adivice Bureau to open it. Even looking at the contents sideways on was enough to depress my spirits.This is vile.

On my return form Newport yesterday, my partner told me the Citizens' Advice Bureau had phoned. They had recieved some more paperwork and wanted me to ring to make an appointment.

This is the interesting thing. It was 3 May, and I expected to be seen in a few days. But the Crapita appeal expert can't fit me in before 18 May because of her staggering case load. Furthermore the appointment will be not in the CAB office but in a room in a doctor's surgery which she has had to hire.

It shows how many people are suffering - in silence apparently - even in a small town like Abergavenny.


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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 8:01 am    Post subject: Debbie Reply with quote

The Shadow Work and Pensions person, Debbie Abrahams, says that the Tories are just creating more waste and expense by throwing money at Crapita, considering how many decisions are overturned on appeal.

Another Debbie, Debbie Neal had a slot on the Victoria Derbyshire programme. Debbie lives alone. She has a rare kidney complaint. Although she can work as a cleaner, she has to go through the ritual of changing and readjusting a bag she relies on for staying alive, five times a day. She can't even remember what it was like not to have to do it.

She had £80 a week DLA. It was stripped from her by Crapita. Although she really knew that Crapita was a scam, it did get inside her head. She began to think, ''Maybe, I'm not really ill. Maybe I'm imagining it. Maybe I'm a malingerer'', although she really works very hard.

In fact, Crapita doesn't take any notice of reality. They just copy and paste the crapulous rejection they used for the last person which is one reason why the decision makes no sense.

Often they don't even bother to adjust the gender of pronouns to fit the sex of the person they are rejecting. Often, as in my case, even the grammar of the text breaks down, so it doesn't even make sense linguistically, let alone logically.

I'm not quite sure if Debbie Neal was given a dusty answer by a tribunal, but she finally ended up in a magistrates' court fighting for her rights. The people had to start from scratch in looking at her case.

There was no point in referring to the Crapita report, except for the purpose of ascertaining that it was in fact crap. Debbie advises other people not to give up. She has now been awarded the standard rate of PIP for the next ten years.

The DWP was asked to comment and came out with a bland lie, rather in the way that the Jeremy Kyle Show reacts to complaints.


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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trouble with presenting for any kind of medical assessment is the amount of time alloted to it: my experience has been a particularly bad one but I think that it is the political system which is at fault where The Democrats ignorantly prescribe medical treatments and decide how our money should be spent e.g. these five year plans which the Conservativist Soviet Unionist Party keep announcing - then promptly changing the following week.

I am actually in the surgery waiting room right now having finally faced up to actually showing a GP my embarassing problem: I have dragged that little old lady's shopping trolley here full of a mere two years of my diaries - no copy books, no storybooks, no scribbles of the backs of envelopes, nothing from off Y Repwblic, nothing from out of my phone, no excerpts from the transcripts made by MI5 of my conversations with my exexex ... It is the diary which is tormenting me because it contains all of the basic information about what Lil'Sis was doing to me to coerce me to let her own way before she resorted to using lawyers ... I can not get to grips with reading the diary because it is just full of pain from everything else which happened since 2010.... Well 1991 really - arguably 1982 for me.... 1962 for my community here in Butetown ...

... Anyhow the contents both compell me to think about them but repell me from reading about them: I am like a ball on the end of a piece of elastic attached to a bat - you know the game: events his you so hard and so often everything becomes a blur amidst the regular whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack whack... I am traumatised and beginning to regularly have bouts of dissociating from myself and am deeply aversive to having to read about all of the misery that I have forced to live through with the prospect of so much more of the same and worse to follow.... I need a pill.... or a truss ... or some kind of surgical intervention to cure my community of this Demockeraticitis ...
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just returned from some of my per Capita assessment … I am not sure whether it went well or not … I am slightly high and perhaps she thought I was about to be fully out of control and so ran away … possibly silently screaming … when she returned she explained that she had been on the phone to her psychiatrist and that my interview was to be ended there and my case would be determined from my notes … I was quite disappointed … I had regaled her with stories and diagrams and jokes and I was quite prepared to write her one of my proems about it … I do hope that her psychiatrist is sympathetic …
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:49 am    Post subject: kathy Reply with quote

It looks as if Dai was interviewed by the same no goode dawg I was. At least he had the sense to record the interview secretly. I have just found out that 'Karen Goode' said that I saw my relatives or spoke to them on the phone everyday.

This is not accurate to put it mildly. I have not lived in the same town as my 'parents' since I was a teenager. I have not spoken to them for years, partly because most of my key relatives are dead.

I'm not in direct contact with those that are in the land of the living except my own descendants. In any case, my real parents live near the Lake Distirct and I live in Wales! What a wicked and cruel lie Karen Goode has perpetrated here!

It was sickening to see Theresa May try to avoid difficult questions at Abingdon, only to be confronted by Kathy Mohan, now in her 50s, who has learning difficulties but has been stripped of her DLA which she wants back again and of the services of a carer. She hit the nail on the head when she said the fat cats get everything and 'us lot get nothing.'

How contemptible- or moronic - of May to say the cuts were good becasue they mean that we are looking after those who are 'really' disabled, as if Kathy should be grateful. This is not true. No money is saved by robbing and killing the disabled. It all goes on bonuses to the liars at Atos.

It is certainly not spent on those who are 'really' disabled. People who have spina bifida or no legs and cannot walk at all have been stripped of all their benefits.

Theresa May spoke as if she was doing Kathy a favour rather than persecuting her. When Kathy said she had learning difficulties, May tried to defend herself by saying that the guv'ment is doing something for those with mental health problems, something she had been bleating about for weeks.

Kathy put her right. She had not mental health problems but learning difficulties. May repeated what she had said, sounding condescending and stupid at the same time.

Note that Theresa May does not even know the difference between mental illness and learning difficulties. That's how profound her ignorance of disability issues is.

It's true my adoptive father who was born in 1925, didn't know the difference either, and perhaps this was not unusual for people of his generation. How old is Theresa May? Shouldn't she know better? Does somebody in public office have a right to be this ignorant?

Kathy has learnig difficulties but it was Theresa May who came across as lacking in brain power - to a frightening degree. She wasn't influenced by Kathy, as she was too obtuse to understand the nature of her grievance.

The Daily Mail praised May for talking about 'boys' jobs' and 'girls' jobs' on the One Show. The Mail likes traditional sex roles. But some people have raised the alarm about her vacuuous performance. She doesn't sound very bright.

After the second terrorist attack in a fortnight, May says she will tear up human rights legislation. This is what she wanted to do anyway.

The Tories are just as much murderers of innocent people and just as much a threat to our human rights as Islamic terrorists. Disabled people have always lived in terror, but now the government is terrorising them. For God's sake, don't vote Conservative!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:01 pm    Post subject: You call this victory? Reply with quote

Could it be that little foxes and cripples will now be safe? The demon headmistress is still on the throne, yet people think it a defeat for the Conservatives even as they are clinging grimly on with the help of Protestant zealots from Northern Ireland.

Apparently it's a great day for Labour although they haven't won. Theresa May doesn't really have a mandate for austerity or a hard Brexit. Boffins have speculated that she knew Brexit was going to be awful and that's one reason she went to the country now. She thought she would get a landslide at this early stage, but would be mauled by the electorate after they found out what Brexit meant.

She said the Tory party was riven with internal dissension, and that was why the country should let its beloved rulers know that a rock hard Brexit was what they wanted.

She said that every vote for the Conservatives would be a vote for Brexit. But so many who voted 'leave' in the referendum have now voted for Labour. People vote for contradictory things.

On a more sombre note, my heart is with Charlie Gard's parents in the hell they are enduring. I'm all for compassion, but in today's climate, I'm not totally happy that a woman who screamed abuse in the face of a disabled ten year old child has been spared jail. This is not the right message for times like these.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:12 pm    Post subject: nigel Reply with quote

Nigel Evans says this election has been an 'absolute disaster' for the Conservatives; they were hijacked by their own party. They didn't shoot themselves in the foot but in the head; they achieved this by making a full frontal assault on their own key supporters - the elderly.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:32 am    Post subject: over? Reply with quote

At least one newspaper today tells us that Theresa May in her new found shock and humility, says that austerity is over. I'm not at all convinced.

I rejoiced too soon when George Osborne's anti-cripple budget was outwardly reversed in March last year. It was all for show. The anti-cripple measures were brought back quietly later.

Even if austerity is over, it may be too late for Dai and me. It is obviously too late for all those cripples the Conservative government has already killed.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does Theresa May now qualify as disabled after The UK General Election 2017 ?

How would she fare under the welfare benefit rules ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:32 pm    Post subject: broken britain Reply with quote

At the Year's Mind for Jo Cox MP, Hope Not Hate emphasied that she had wanted to unite people, not divide them by scapegoating. It was not spelt out, but she did not want to close essential services either.

On the other hand the Conservative government in their devotion to profit and their contempt for human beings have abolished Labour's safety regulations in public housing.

On the continent, the Grenfell Tower disaster is seen as symbolizing broken Britain - poor people including children dying in an inferno because the Conservatives think that their lives are not worth anything. It has to be a wake up call.

It will be another Aberfan in one sense but we can't allow it to have the same outcome. David Lammy MP was choked up about his friend Khadija who died with her mother on the twenty second floor. When he recovered himself somewhat, he said we can't let the guilty get away with it. This has to be corporate manslaughter.

Jeremy Corbyn was seen walking among the upset and bereaved people, spontaneously putting an arm around a grieving individual. It looked very natural, very genuine.

If he was a man of the people, Theresa May came like a duchess with a motorcade for a few minutes. Admittedly, she couldn't win. If she had walked among the populace, she would have been attacked, at least verbally - and rightly.

Now that shock and sorrow are turning to anger, I hear Theresa May's car has been chased by an angry crowd. How long can she possibly continue in office?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:17 am    Post subject: marchez Reply with quote

People are marching on Downing Street. If only it becomes a revolution!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are articulate and in just reading Marianne's comments about Capita/Atos I thought that you might like to add your own more informed opinions & if you wish you could recount your story. I prefer to write in an abstract way & do not give out the details of my life but Marianne prefers blood to bullshit : so you can locate the end of her thread I will paste this message there - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5536#5536

RULES OF " Y REPWBLIC " - WE TALK AS WE DO NORMALLY - PLEASE DO NOT POST ABOUT PORN, VIOLENCE OR SPORT BECAUSE THAT WILL ATTRACT CHILDREN : THE MINIMUM AGE IS 13 AND WE ARE ALL HOPING TO MAKE IT TO 14 BEFORE WE DRAW OUR PENSIONS.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:33 am    Post subject: day of rage Reply with quote

People hope to arrange a Day of Rage to protest the Grenfell Tower inferno, which will bring London to a standstill. The hope is that it will bring down the government.

Right wing papers are reporting that Grenfell survivors and the bereaved relatives object to the tragedy being hijacked as they see it. That is what the Daily Mail would say.

It may be that there really have been such complaints. You often hear that the SWP hijacked a demonstration by which the complainer means that they took part in it. They didn't really hijack it. They didn't say, ''Take this march to Cuba!.''

Of course the dead people were not and should not be political pawns. They were individuals with their own unique stories and opinions. But do you think they would not approve of a day of rage in their name? Do you think they would not want to be instrumental in the death of the government whose unconcern for human welfare led to their incineration alive?

I would imagine that most of them would approve. It's not that they should have been sacrifced. But now that it has happened anyway, what better memorial could there be than a revolution?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject: gard Reply with quote

It was so sad to see the picture of Charlie Gard in his hospital cot surrounded by his cuddly chimpanzee and other toys, after the European Court had taken the last hope from his paretns. We can''t imagine their frantic despair, but we can feel appropriate respect and sympathy.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:02 pm    Post subject: opt out Reply with quote

I was involved in the investigations into publlic opinion before Wales went over to the opt out instead of opt in system for organ donation. This was as an interviewer in market research.

I was surprised to find that a minority of people think organ donation is absolutely immoral. One of them told me that it was because she was a Jehovah's Witness.

Another became angry and shouty on the subject but admitted that he might accept a donated organ himself because he was 'a coward.' He seemed to think it an awful weaness not to submit to God's will and go when your alloted span was up.

Another person sympathised about the reception I had had from religious people. He said you only had to watch the news to see that religion was responsible for all the trouble in the world.

These people stood out but most people were broadly in faivor. One respondent told me that she wouldn't object to her chidlren's internal organs being taen. After all, no one had ever seen their livers or idneys arnd one liver msut be much the same as another.

But she wouldn't want their eyes to be taken. I could understand that.

The reason most people don't want to have a donor card is that it would force tehem to confront the reality that we are all in mortal danger all the time. They might not survive the day.

This state of denial is unfair on those who may need an organ transpalant, but I must admit I didn't have a donor card myself, and my work didn't galvanise me into getting one.

I don't need to now. For we do have an opt out system in Wales, and at least one other UK country has followed our lead.

I could see no rational reason to object, but somebody wrote a disturbing letter to the Western Mail which was published next to my letter complaining about John Lowles MBE justifying the deomocide in Llanelli in 1911.

The writer claimed that if a person's organs are in a state to be of any use to anyone else, their original owner must be in some sense alive. Body snatchers were harvesting organs from living people.

I don't thin I'm qualified to comment on this. Surprisingly, Theresa May has been sufficiently 'moved' by the plight of a desperately ill child, other than Charlie Gard, that she supports replacing the opt in system in England with the opt out alternative now introduced in all deent countries.

But if this child is going to grow up, he will need a good society to live in, one where the sic and disabled do not have their lives sacrificed by the state when they are adults. Otherwise, it might be more in his interests to let him slip away now.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:12 pm    Post subject: May Out Reply with quote

Thouands of people have descended on London to march agaisnt Theresa May. Diane Abbott was in the crowd. Jeremy Corbyn addressed the demonstration on the criminal idiocy of austerity. The government is cutting back on vital services, and throwing away the lives of its citizens.

The People's Assembly called this demo. Its slogan was 'Not Another Day.'
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:22 pm    Post subject: surprise Reply with quote

I must record with astonishment that Donald Trump has said he will be 'delighted' to help Charlie Gard's parents. Well, well! Is Saul also among the prophets?
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