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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:52 pm    Post subject: Definitions of " The Public Interest " ( IPSO etc Reply with quote

" The Public Interest " is a phrase much abused by The Democrats in Wales and Westminster who frequently rant at The Republicans in Wales - especially me ( dai ) for arguing against " Democracy " which is another word which they pay lip service to without knowing what it means. Due to over two hundred years of propagandising the idea that those who subscribe to the politics of " De Re Publica " are involved in some kind of a criminal conspiracy against " The Public Interest " and over one hundred years of treating the word " Democracy " as a shibboleth to test whether a person is loyal to " The United Kingdom " as a non-political system and yet previously in the one hundred years before that exactly the same sort of people were treating the word " Democracy " as a shibboleth to test whether a person was disloyal to " The United Kingdom " as a non-political system ... well ... what you can learn from this is that " The Demockerats in Wales and Westminster " for the most part put all of their effort into getting themselves elected because to be a County Councilor, Assembly Member, Member of Parliament or Prime Minister is now the only job which you can get without possessing any knowledge - let alone qualifications - of how to actually do it ... even The Prince of Wales had to learn Welsh ! ...

... Republicans when asked will typically point to " The Law " as being the agreed account of " The Public Interest " because " De Re Publica " is the name of the book by the Roman lawyer Marcus Tullus Cicero which is a treatise on the situation which he was witnessing : the overthrow of The Republic in Rome by Julius Caesar and others whom I define as " Ultraists " i.e. those who go " Beyond The Boundary ( -ism ) " which prompted him to look back to the legal philosophers of Ancient Greece and to argue for " The Rule of Law " which is something rather different to simply " The Law." Those who supported the emperors claimed that The Republic in Rome had not been destroyed by them but restored - those who opposed the emperors denounced the use of violence to assert their arbitrary claims to power : there has to be a higher authority than The Government of The State or otherwise political authority becomes self justifying - those who control The State can then make The Law and declare this to be Justice : that they are not subject to The Law i.e. " ( Beyond ) The Rule of Law." In other words if there is a single instance of anybody being placed above, beneath or beyond " The Rule of Law " then it is not present - and there are multiple examples of this in the non-political system whose supporters do not call it " The Dis-United Kingdom " e.g. " The Demockerats in Wales " as I have dubbed them : those political illiterates who foisted onto The People in Wales a constitutional mess - Devolution instead of Revolution !

I was prompted to write this thread because I consulted IPSO's Code of Practice which has a section defining " The Public Interest " - again they are abusing the term because this is not " The Law " - and not written like a law either but is rather more like the kind of memos found amongst the waste paper recycled by The Western Mail ... on the other hand ... no ... Think of it this way : you know the old adage about it only needing one rotten apple in the barrel to spoil the lot ? ... Ultraism is like an infection : it can start with a single bug entering into our political system - a single defect in our description of " The Public Interest " because " The Law " which we are manufacturing is not Justice itself but our description of what we understand to be Justice - and then it spreads ... like AIDS : Absolutely Injuring Democratic Societies - ? ... The remedies are Republicanisms : these are our philosophical models of how our political systems can be restored to health - but : it is no use our going to a doctor for a diagnosis of a disorder and then waving around the prescription which we have been given - we have to take the medicine ... but the further trouble with AIDS is that it causes multiple failures of our political systems because it has harmed " The Rule of Law " - which is the immune system of our society which can normally manufacture new anti-bodies i.e. in a Republican political system there are constitutional arrangements in which the judicial system acts as the immune system of the body politic using a basic set of constitutional laws to strike down those laws which have been infected by AIDS : there are in fact several types of these constitutional laws but we normally tend to think only of " Human Rights " because these are the most important and visible ones which basically formulate our conceptions of " The Public Interest " and are our first defence of " The Rule of Law."

Post-Post-Script

:-S = https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nLDI7Gb2FrY

Very Happy = https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p56Ok2ahtYk

Post Script : a brief lecture on how The Democrats in Westminster placed themselves outside of The Human Rights Act 1998 - just in case you doubt my assertion that The United Kingdom is a bandit state which has no regard for The Rule of Law -

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7AQ456Dem_E

Many people believe The Demockerats in Wales when they claim that The United Kingdom has " Human Rights " but " The Human Rights Act 1998 " is not a constitutional law and The Demockerats in Westminster can dispense with it at any time : it is merely a list of privileges with a not very long string - or rather red tape - attached to it ... It is not possible to have Human Rights in a political system which does not have a constitution because these are constitutional laws : they can not be upheld against The Demockerats in Wales and Westminster because here in Cardiff we do not have a court at all to determine them within our own jurisdiction - Welsh laws passed by our elected representatives in Y Senedd can be - and have been - struck down by English judges in The High Court in London ... but even if lawyers succeeded in appealing to The Supreme Court of The Untied/Retied Kingdom then The Prime Minster - presently unelected also - could still strike down their judgment because of " The Sovereignty of The Crown in Parliament " i.e. in 10 Downing Street ... This is why Republicans oppose Sovereignty : because it is a myth ( it is 19c myth of propaganda that " Republicans are against The Royal Family " ) ... what matters is not who made The Law but whether it promotes Justice - hence in order to defend " The Rule of Law " and protect it from " Ultraism " in Republican political systems there are constitutional laws which enable their Judiciaries to act like kings in the game of chess : they can not make new laws but they can strike down non-constitutional laws i.e. they provide The State with an immune system by creating " The Separation of Powers " in order to preserve the pursuit of " The Public Interest " by preventing the reduction of " The Rule of Law " to " The Law decides what Justice is ! "

Confusing The Law with Justice is like confusing a portrait with a person.

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We are a trifle reckless at times on " Y Repwblic " in our angry indignation : it is just as well to remember the kinds of standards which are expected of professional writers although unlike them we do not deal in gratuitous advocacy of political violence, perverse sexuality or sectarian sports on the grounds that our host informe.com requires us not to attract children under thirteen ... of course we do welcome all childish adults under three hundred years old to express themselves according to their own abilities.

" IPSO " is the Independent Press Standards Organisation -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Press_Standards_Organisation

The Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO) was established on Monday 8 September 2014[1] following the windup of the Press Complaints Commission (PCC), which had been the main industry regulator of the press in the United Kingdom since 1990. The PCC received extensive criticism for its lack of action in the News International phone hacking scandal, including from MPs and Prime Minister David Cameron, who called for it to be replaced with a new system in July 2011.[2] The Leveson Inquiry was set up and reported in November 2012, recommending in favour of the establishment of a new independent body.

IPSO claims to be an independent regulator of the newspaper and magazine industry, and exists to promote and uphold the highest professional standards of journalism in the UK, and to support members of the public in seeking redress where they believe that the Editors' Code of Practice[3] has been breached. The Editors' Code deals with issues such as accuracy, invasion of privacy, intrusion into grief or shock and harassment. IPSO is able to consider concerns about editorial content in newspapers and magazines, and about the conduct of journalists.

IPSO handles complaints, and conducts its own investigations into editorial standards and compliance. It also undertakes monitoring work, including by requiring publications to submit annual compliance reports. IPSO has the power, where necessary, to require the publication of prominent corrections and critical adjudications, and may ultimately fine publications in cases where failings are particularly serious and systemic.

... The chair of IPSO is retired Court of Appeal judge, Sir Alan Moses and a 12-strong board has been appointed. A majority of the members are independent (7) which means they have no connections with the newspaper and magazine industry. The other members (5) represent the newspaper and magazine industry. ...

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https://www.ipso.co.uk/editors-code-of-practice/#ThePublicInterest

Editors’ Code of Practice ©2017 Regulatory Funding Company

The Public Interest

There may be exceptions to the clauses marked * where they can be demonstrated to be in the public interest.

The public interest includes, but is not confined to:

Detecting or exposing crime, or the threat of crime, or serious impropriety.

Protecting public health or safety.

Protecting the public from being misled by an action or statement of an individual or organisation.

Disclosing a person or organisation’s failure or likely failure to comply with any obligation to which they are subject.

Disclosing a miscarriage of justice.

Raising or contributing to a matter of public debate, including serious cases of impropriety, unethical conduct or incompetence concerning the public.

Disclosing concealment, or likely concealment, of any of the above.
There is a public interest in freedom of expression itself.

The regulator will consider the extent to which material is already in the public domain or will or will become so.

Editors invoking the public interest will need to demonstrate that they reasonably believed publication - or journalistic activity taken with a view to publication – would both serve, and be proportionate to, the public interest and explain how they reached that decision at the time.

An exceptional public interest would need to be demonstrated to over-ride the normally paramount interests of children under 16.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_regulation#United_Kingdom

Media regulation - Redirected from UK Press Regulation

Media regulation is the control or guidance of mass media by governments and other bodies. This regulation, via law, rules or procedures, can have various goals, for example intervention to protect a stated "public interest", or encouraging competition and an effective media market, or establishing common technical standards. ... The principal targets of media regulation are the press, radio and television, but may also include film, recorded music, cable, satellite, storage and distribution technology (discs, tapes etc.), the internet, mobile phones etc. ...

Principal foundations

Balance between positive and negative defined liberties.

[ UH-OH : ISAIAH BERLIN RIDES AGAIN - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaiah_Berlin ]

The negative defined liberties, legislating the role of media institutions in society and securing their freedom of expression, publication, private ownership, commerce, and enterprise, must be balanced by legislation ensuring the positive freedom of citizens of their access to information.

[ = PRESERVING THE HIEROCRACY : PRIVATE INTERESTS PRIVILEGED OVER THE PUBLIC INTEREST ]

Balance between state and market.

[ = AS THE CONTROLLING PRIVATE INTEREST THE ARISTOCRACY IN THE UK KEEPS THE HIEROCRACY OBEDIENT ]

Media is at a position between the commerce and democracy.

[ = THE HIEROCRACY JOSTLES WITH THE DEMOCRACY FOR POWER OVER OUR SOCIETY ]

These require the balance between rights and obligations. To maintain the contractual balance, society expects the media to take their privilege responsibly.

[ = THE PUBLIC INTEREST IS EQUATED BY THE ARISTOCRATS WITH THEIR PRIVATE INTERESTS ]

Besides, market forces failed to guarantee the wide range of public opinions and free expression. Intend to the expectation and ensurance, regulation over the media formalized.

[ = THE HIEROCRATS CAN NOT APPEASE DEMOCRATS, ARISTOCRATS AND MONOCRATS ALL AT ONCE ]

...

... In most EU member states, they have removed media ownership regulations and replaced them with competition laws. Competition laws are laws created by a governing body that protect consumers from predatory business practices by ensuring that fair competition exists in an open-market economy. However, these competition laws cannot escape the problem of convergence and concentration of media.

[ = THE HIEROCRATS PROMOTE THE DEMOCRATS TO ADVOCATE THEIR INTERESTS TO THE ARISTOCRATS - WHICH IN TURN IN SOCIETIES SUCH AS CHINA ARE COURTING THE MONOCRATS ]

China

At the early period of the modern history of China, the relationship between government and society was extremely unbalanced. Government held power over the Chinese people and controlled the media, making the media highly political ... The economic reform decreased the governing function of media and created a tendency for mass media to stand for the society but/AND not only authority. The previous unbalanced structure between powered government and weak society was loosed by the policy in some level, but not truly changed until the emergence of Internet. ... At first the regulator did not regard Internet as a category of mass media but a technique of business. Underestimating the power of the internet as a communications tool resulted in a lack of internet regulation. Since then, the internet has changed communication methods, media structure and overthrown the pattern of public voice expression in China. ... Regulators have not and would not let the Internet out of control. In recent years, the strategy when approaching the Internet has been to regulate while /IT IS/ developing. ...

[ THE HIEROCRACY IN CHINA IS CLOSELY BOUND TO THE MONOCRACY ]

Internet regulation departments in China have respective distribution of work. Ministry of Industry and Information Technology is responsible for the development and regulation of the industry, Ministry of Public Security regulates security and fights crimes, and the Propaganda Department leads the system where departments of culture, broadcasting, journalism, education, etc. regulates the information contents. ... The Internet regulation departments restrain the wrongful expression and behaviors by techniques such like blocking information negative to social stable and carrying out real name system through Internet. ... It requires communicators to set up the relationship between expected information targets and the real targets, guide the direction of information to reach the expectation. ... Traditional media affiliated into government strives to develop Internet with relatively flexible administrating system to increase the communicating power of mainstream media of authority to compete with social communication. ... Regulator delivers the expectation of Internet environment to the population through training and educating to intense people’s conscious about behavior norms.

[ WHICH IF CHINA WERE SOLELY LIKE THAT WOULD BE A DESCRIPTION OF A SOCIETY GOVERNED SOLELY BY A HIEROCRACY : THERE WOULD BE NO COERCION BY WAR ( = MONOCRACY ) OR ENSLAVEMENT ( = ARISTOCRACY ) OR HATRED ( = DEMOCRACY ) - JUST BY LIES ... " THE PUBLIC INTEREST " WOULD BE REDEFINED IN TERMS OF ORTHODOXY E.G. WHAT HAPPENED TOWARDS THE END OF THE SOVIET UNION WHEN ITS CAPACITY FOR WAGING INTERNAL WAR, ECONOMIC ENSLAVEMENT AND PROMOTING HATRED ALL WANED AWAY AND THE RUSSIAN COMMUNIST PARTY RESORTED TO USING ITS HIEROCRACY TO ASSERT A LIE AS AN ORTHODOXY IN THE FACE OF THE EVIDENCE : THE RUSSIAN COMMUNISTS TRIED TO LEGISLATE AWAY THE REALITY OF THEIR SOCIETY BY JAILING THOSE WHO TRIED TO REMEDY THE SITUATION BY COMPARING THEIR PORTRAIT OF " NEW SOVIET MAN " WITH THE ACTUAL SAME OLD PERSON - THIS IS WHY IT IS NOT IN " THE PUBLIC INTEREST " TO DEFINE " JUSTICE " BY SIMPLY EQUATING IT WITH " THE LAW " ... THE CHINESE COMMUNISTS ARE RESORTING TO THE SAME KIND OF A LIE AS AN ORTHODOXY IN THE FACE OF THE EVIDENCE : COMMUNISM HAS BEEN REDEFINED AS CAPITALISM AND THEY ARE JAILING THOSE WHO ARE COMPARING THE TWO ... THE FACT IS THAT COMMUNISM MAKES A VERY GOOD POLITICAL CRITIQUE - BUT IT MAKES A VERY BAD RELIGION : WHAT REPUBLICANISM ADVOCATES IS A POLITICAL SYSTEM WHICH IS PLURALISTIC IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE POLITICAL CRITIQUES I.E. PORTRAITS OF SOCIETY DRAWN FROM EVERY ANGLE - BUT NONE OF THEM MISTAKEN FOR IT : THAT IS WHY WE NEED A FREE PRESS - BUT FREE SPEECH MUST NOT BE THE FREEDOM TO LIE BECAUSE THAT WILL THEN LICENCE THE ULTRAISM OF HIEROCRACY.]
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From: David B Lawrence
Sent: 08 April 2017 22:57
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Subject: Vacancies : Readers' advisory panel member (two places)

Dear IPSO,

I am rounding off my evening having had a little fun inspired by your recent advertisement and then began to wonder if ...

I will not write you a proper letter unless you are sufficiently intrigued to invite me to do so : but would you be willing to ?

I am Wales' if not Britain's most prolific Republican commentator - " dai repwblic " - see http://repwblic.informe.com

Most of what I write there is fairly lazy stuff which I view as " pre-writes " and rather short of my published " rewrites."

I have had letters and minor contributions accepted by magazines and BBC Radio 4 and made an appearance on BBC TV.

None of this I view as a qualification per se except that I fret over issues of Free Speech as the administrator of the board.

In terms of what IPSO does what is relevant is the fact that myself and other Republicans are regularly libeled in the press.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/plaid-cymru-leader-leanne-wood-2024296

The account given there places my face above the opinions of far-right Nationalist Republican group Balchder Cymru.

I still occasionally complain about it to The Western Mail http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=4304#4304

I am acutely aware that propaganda against Republicans licences violence against us in the minds of many people.

You will understand that whilst that web page continues to stand uncorrected my life is at risk : that is an extreme libel.

Quite apart from this an advocate of " Civ " I am acutely aware of how the public discourse is becoming very limited.

Certainly my own strata of society is barely visible : the long term unemployed, impoverished, socially isolated, ill - old.

Now : if you care to consider somebody from below the bottom rung of society - shall I send you my curriculum vitae ?

Otherwise - perhaps you could just enjoy reading my evening's writing ... and recruit somebody from the bottom rung ?

Yours Faithfully,

David B. Lawrence
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