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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2014 9:42 pm    Post subject: how to use and abuse " Y Repwblic " Reply with quote

On the matter of making complaints about postings on Repwblic, since we understand that adult behaviour may be something of a challenge for some, the general rule is that of adult conversation in a social context : people are not expected to be experts in anything but to write in an entertaining way. As in adult life everywhere outside of Democratic parties, the only thing which we do not excuse is deliberately harming others.

Repwblic is a ' republic of letters ' and therefore we are rarely going to be subjected to accusations of literature : this is for the purposes of self expression with a slant towards our politics, to portray the way in which Republicans in Wales talk to each other about our political sensibilities.

Yes -we occasionally swear, make lewd remarks and insult each other : we also apologise, seek to soothe the hurt feelings of others and we even sometimes rise to the occasion and make an intelligent political argument. It is not correct behaviour in Republicanism to censor how other people feel and think because understanding others is the basis of our politics and so we are not Democrats - we do not form parties and wage war on others.

As a matter of protecting " Y Repwblic " it may prove necessary to remove dubiously evidenced material that might lead to " informe.com " wanting to to censor " Y Repwblic." We prefer however to censor ourselves and that is why the person in charge of the administration of the board has the power to remove offensive etc material to " Quarantine " where the right of the writer to free-speech is balanced against the right of the reader to be cautioned as to what they might encounter there. By Republican ADULT standards our writers on " Y Repwblic " are reasonably well behaved - yet Democrats still complain - and we don't even bother with any formal rules.

" Repwblic " is held by the administrator of " Y Repwblic " who will disregard childish complaints - repwblic@repwblic.org has been replaced by the administration email of " Y Repwblic "repwblic@hotmail.co.uk for other matters at the present moment.

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I am going to bed : will this help you to understand how to use and abuse " Y Repwblic " ?

repwblic.informe.com is a phpBB file but the file format has not been updated for a while because I was waiting for a convenient moment to perform a save because the site is now HUGE - 50+ MB !!! - and I am a little frightened of screwing up : it took five hours last time.

Above all - given some laziness and confusion by some - try to pick a relevant topic thread that already exists by doing a search of the board for something to add to : but don't worry about starting one in the wrong place. Repwblic is for happy distractions not dull diplomas : people should write as they wish to but the emphasis is upon actually writing - not copying. If you loose your mind and wander happily off the track into debating pancake recipes it really doesn't matter if it provides you with an hour's pleasure in deciding exactly how you might be able to mix up variously any political theories together into some new ways to batter " Democrats in Wales." Nobody should vote to support this " Demockery in Wales."

To sign on the board when you click on this - http://repwblic.informe.com/index.php - you need to select ' register ' from the right hand side of the buttons which you see below the title. You will not be asked for much but you will need to give it an email address - choose one which you look at often : I used my ' political ' email which is designated for receiving all the circulars which people send me which I never read ( this is my ' personal ' email address and I get a bit irate when somebody takes to using it to bombard me with junk emails.)

What happens is that you can set any or all topic threads to send you an email if anybody adds more to what you have written. Repwblic seems to have hundreds of people silently monitoring particular threads but never commenting on what is written - but if you sign up you can tick a box I think on any topic thread to be told if there is activity happening on it.

There is a private messaging system to communicate with other people signed onto the board without writing publicly but nobody seems bothered to use it but me to ask people to be a bit wary of making personal attacks on individuals which might result in complaints to informe.com which will close the board down I suspect rather than mediate complaints.

There is an external emailing system within the phpBB system which only the administrator has access to which uses the administration email address repwblic[A]hotmail.co.uk - but don't write to that if you want a fast reply - use my email addresses or use phpBB messages. It was agreed that repwblic.org will not distribute emails on behalf of any other campaigns or organisations using its mass emailing facilities and there is no list of email addresses kept outside of the phpBB file and the choice of making your email publicly available is yours. Full access to the phpBB file is open only to the administrator ( Repwblic ) and retrieving an individual registration to use the banning control is such a chore it is as good as impossible.

Any campaign can create its own topic threads and either in these or in the list of registered members or on its own registration page it can make public its own webpages with links etc. There is no censorship and people and organisations who are either of the left wing or the right wing or who have no wings at all but who are soaring nevertheless up into the high clouds with high attitudes are fine : I even let mad fools argue their cases for Democracy on the board, although I myself have decided to divorce Democracy again and become " Pure."

Otherwise my rules are to talk as you would talk in a pub as an adult : I do not censor people for swearing or being as rude as they like to each other - as in any pub you should just walk away if someone or something upsets you. Usually I am the rudest foul mouthed person around on the board and I regard all ' Democrats ' i.e. people who have joined those parties as conspirators against ' The People ' - as deserving of all abuse - but this ought to be something that ridicules them for their moral and ethical failings rather than a relentless tirade of hatred. In principle, I accept expressions of hatred born out of pain or anguish and directed towards protesting against injustice because in general ' Democrats ' make a point of not dealing with those they hurt by dismissing them as ill-mannered or offensive or mad.

I have the means to censor and delete any piece of writing and to ban somebody from the board which can block not just individual names but also I.P. addresses. I prefer however to still not delete posts or ban anyone but to remove their posts to ' Quarantine ' so that nobody feels that they have lost the right to speak - just the right to harass or intimidate other people. Anybody can visit ' Quarantine ' to find out why somebody's post has been transferred there but only on condition that what they find there may be grossly offensive. In fact this has never really happened : Republicans in Wales tend to be very well behaved, as you might well expect of us. ' Quarantine ' was instituted due to the problem with a previous board whose administration password was irretrievably lost and we set up ' repwblic ' to get around the problem of an individual who posted gratuitously violent and sexual images which were shocking enough for adults but there were people who happened to click on links only to find themselves with a child on their lap viewing unexpected images.

Posting images intimidates a lot of people but all that you need to do is to find the address of the image which you want to quote and then place it between [img]-image-address-[/img] which can be done either by writing that yourself ( simplest ) or clicking before and after on the button ' img ' on the posting screen. If you want to post your own photographs or scans etc then you will need an online account such as Flickr or Photobucket to store them in - repwblic.informe.com does not store image files ( except for small avatar images such as my bunch of violets which have to be reduced to below a certain file size ) - it only stores text, which may or may not get you or rather me as administrator around any copyright issues to do with photographs : the law concerning files quoting the addresses of images is unclear.

The best thing to do about issues involving copyright is the kindest and most respectful and obvious thing : if you take text and paste it into your post then start with pasting in a link to the original, then cite its title and author if you can and - if possible - praise their work and encourage other people to visit their webpage. I have in the past tried very hard to obtain proper copyright permissions for another website that I contribute to and people are often not just fussy and slow to respond but down-right awkward and paranoid when in fact they are being offered free advertising for their work and usually a recommendation. Most people are not even as considerate as I am but the bottom line here is the author's ' moral right to be identified as the author of a work ' - and I just have to recommend to everybody writing on repwblic the basic principle that we haven't got a hope in hell's chance of ever enforcing that so we should just give our work to ' Y Repwblic ' upon the unstated understanding that nobody else gives a damn and will claim our genius as their own and get paid something for it too ... this of course upholds that long-lived literary tradition in Wales and the World which is grandly called " The Republic of Letters."

David B. Lawrence [ dai ] - " Citizen of the Word " - !
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=4391#4391

No - I can see how this sort of thing happens e.g. I have taken the unusual step of publishing parts of emails from The USA which demonstrate people's feelings about Trump ... my policy towards The People in Israel is the same as it was in the past to The People in Argentina, Chile, Turkey, South Africa etc - not to campaign to interfere in the affairs of another country without my being a part of it lest it complicate their lives ... but I support those who are imprisoned and tortured for their advocacy of good causes and in trying to learn something about their societies I learn new ways of looking at my own. Of course previously I merely recorded my thoughts in my copybooks ... and Repwblic is by the looks of it a continuation of that activity : a scrapbook put on show for others to examine - and very scrappy it is too ... But there is no point in asserting that there should be any standards of literary merit or intellectual achievement or polished scholarship in the writings published here because the whole point is to encourage people to write about what interests them and to develop their individual understandings : this is not a contest ...

... I think that primarily Repwblic's role is to refute the lies told against The Republicans in Wales ...

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[ WHICH WAS AFTER THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT PUBLISHING A PERSON'S SURNAME ]

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=4385#4385

In contradiction to what I said above, in a hate filled world, it might be a life saving provision that Judaism descends in the opposite way to surnames. Melanie is called Melanie [ A WELSH SURNAME*]

[ *DAI IN ADMINSTRATION MODE AS " REPWBLIC " - I NOTICED THE FOLLOWING MORNING THAT YOU GAVE OUT THIS PERSON'S SURNAME : I DO NOT THINK THAT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA MARIANNE ... I DO LIKE YOUR HOMELY STYLE OF WRITING ABOUT BIG ISSUES BUT ... I THINK THAT THE RULE TO APPLY IS NOT TO PUBLICLY IDENTIFY THOSE WHO ARE NOT ALREADY PUBLICLY IDENTIFIED E.G. NAMING POLITICIANS OR CELEBRITIES AND TALKING ABOUT INFORMATION ABOUT THEMSELVES WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN PUBLICLY DISCLOSED IS FINE - AND HAVING A RANT ABOUT DISLIKING THEM IS SELF-DISCLOSURE OF OURSELVES ... BUT CONSIDER PLEASE HOW THESE FRIENDS OF YOURS WILL FEEL ABOUT WHAT YOU WRITE ... PERHAPS SOME WILL STRONGLY OBJECT TO WHAT YOU WRITE EVEN WHEN YOU DO NOT MENTION THEIR NAMES ... I THINK THE SAME WAY ABOUT YOU AND DAFYDD - AND " ASAMUX " - DAF AND I ARE USED TO MUTUALLY DAMNING EACH OTHER - " ASAMUX " HAS SIGNED ON THE BOARD TO WATCH BUT HE DAMNS MY REPUBLICANISM.]

She has encountered racism. But had she not told people she was Jewish, they need not have known.

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" ...My friend would tell anyone she was Jewish. That's her choice. Maybe we shouldn't do the same - at least not online. There are a lot of nutters around. And I seem to remember now that the Jews' Free School in London has to have constant protection from armed guards. ... It was a moment analogous to the bit of dialogue in 'Dad's Army': 'Your name will also go on the list. What is it?'' ''Don't tell him, Pike.'' ... Some might think it was covert malice working in me. But it wasn't. It was unadulterated stupidity. ... Wel, dyna ni ! It's a salutary wake up call to be reminded of what a total dickhead I can be. ... "

[ MARIANNE IS NOT " A TOTAL DICKHEAD " BUT IS WRITING IN THE SAME WAY THAT SHE TALKS IN REAL LIFE - WHERE SUCH REMARKS ARE SOON GONE WITH THE WIND AND HAVE NO HARMFUL CONSEQUENCES : THE REAL POINT HOWEVER IS TO RESPECT EACH OTHER'S PRIVACY ]


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... Here am I trying to encourage " Fish " to write on the board : she has a degree in The History of Ideas and will shame us all - and she is SHY ... Fish would probably burst into tears and never talk to us again if we told any stories about her - let alone gave out her name ... FICTIONALATE !!! ... DO NOT SHOCKOLATE !!! ... mmm ... yum ...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes ... maybe ... no ... perhaps ... one of the questions thrown up by the internet is as to whether this " post-truth " landscape has been caused by the world wide web or has merely revealed what already existed ... e.g. when we used to sit around Dafydd's / Moritz's bookstore ' Galahads ' our conversation was potentially both a lot more serious thirty odd years ago and also on occasions a lot more savage ... but that was as often as not directly to each other in scorning each other's views so there was either an immediate retort or an immediate apology if we had casually hurt each other ... the majority of our publishing consisted of reporting such things as " ... and what he had to say about Sally was ... " so arguably we occasionally dealt in private slander ... When we wrote things for paper publications we typically faced an editor - as this journalist was supposed to have - but now we do not have an editor e.g. I am loathed to censor anybody and aside from striking off Mel's surname I have not edited you nor do I want to censor anything anybody says except if they are endangering the continued existence of this bulletin board by publishing pornography, violence or sporting fixtures which encourage children to read " Y Repwblic " ... but are laws like slander and libel appropriate in this situation when the internet is merely making visible human behaviour that has been going on for centuries in private conversations and personal correspondence ?

Talking of private conversations I may have found a venue suitable for that project of recreating Saturday afternoons in Galahads over a coffee : close to Central Station so it will be accessible for others to travel to - and you ?

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1180
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