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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was pointed out to me today - I ceased buying New Republic because of the airmail charges but perhaps I will subscribe to it again for a year of not managing to read enough of it for the money ... go read the whole thing : I can not swipe so much of interest ...

https://newrepublic.com/article/77373/the-living-lie-antisemitism-england

JONATHAN FREEDLAND ... The Living Lie - 11 September 2010

A REVIEW OF

Trials of the Diaspora: A History of Anti-Semitism in England - Anthony Julius

" ... the voice of a man who learned long ago to be anything but the angry Jew ... The result is a meticulous taxonomy of prejudice, written as if with a pair of surgical gloves, the better to handle a particularly revolting set of specimens. “All versions of anti-Semitism libel Jews. ... he denies anti-Semitism the status of an ideology, maintaining that it merely allows lumpen-thinkers to barge into intellectual debates that are beyond them: “Anti-Semitism has a place in the history of ideas only in the sense that a burglar has a place in a house.” In a similar vein, Julius offers this on “the new anti-Zionism”: “It inhabits those grooves along which received thought—and non-thought—moves. It is, so to speak, the spontaneous philosophy of ... those who do not philosophize, and the spontaneous history of many of those who know no history.” He is particularly scathing about the more extreme Jewish critic of Zionism, upending one of the more clichéd insults often hurled in their direction: “The Jewish anti-Zionist scourge is not a self-hater; he is enfolded in self-admiration. He is in step with the best opinion.” ...

... Even to include anti-Zionism in a study of anti-Semitism will look like a provocation to those who believe that the two are utterly distinct. There are discontinuities between modern antiZionism and ancient Jew-hatred, of course. Julius is quite aware that antiZionism “is adopted by people who profess deep hostility to anti-Semitism ... self-identified Jews are among its advocates, and ... it comes from the Left—indeed, has become part of the common sense among people of a broadly progressive temper.” But the points of connection outnumber the points of departure. Julius is clear that what he calls the “new anti-Zionism” deploys against the Jews collectively—in the form of the Jewish state—many of the “principal stratagems and tropes” that traditional anti-Semitism directed at the Jews as individuals. ... ... But surely it is different now, the anti-Zionist will cry. For one thing, there are plenty of Jews in their camp: surely such fellowship exonerates them from the charge of anti-Semitism. ...

... The cumulative effect of all this should be to give today’s anti-Zionists pause. They have a moral and intellectual obligation to check every conceptual and rhetorical path they are about to take and ask themselves who might have been here before. For the very scrupulous, it may mean a re-thinking of their entire approach, a decision to make their case only in a language uninfected by centuries of Jew-hatred and its tropes. That will not be easy. Julius suggests anti-Zionism has become as entangled with anti-Semitism as anti-communism once was: “It is as difficult for today’s anti-Zionist to evade anti-Semitism as it was for the anti-Bolshevist of ninety years ago.” But the work is surely necessary. Otherwise today’s opponents of Israel risk hurling at contemporary Jews the accusations that anti-Semites once threw at earlier Jewish generations, that they are “bloodthirsty child-killers, global conspirators and the enemies of humanity.” That’s a description that no act of Israeli policy, no matter how misguided or brutal some have been, can justify. ...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VXe7nvKmuns

Why No Two-State Solution ?

Jewish Broadcasting Service

An almost seamless switching between reality and fantasy : a good demonstration of how to manipulate a gullible audience with fine sentiments - it sort of illustrates the dangers of Republicanisms and Democracies in a single example. Made me think about my own inclination to a single state solution on account of the Palestinian State being not viable : the importance of giving Life, Peace and Freedom whilst tolerating being subjected to Death, War and Enslavement ...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From: David B Lawrence
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Subject: " anti-semitism " as practised in Israel : do you know of any imaginative and informed polemecists who could develop this argument convincingly ?

Dear

I would like to ask if this note was added by XXXX to the end of XXXX

" [ BASICALLY ARGUING THAT IF ISRAEL WAS FOUNDED TO PROVIDE A HOMELAND FOR JEWS THEN THIS PREMISE IS ESSENTIALLY RACIST ] "

I doubt that statement - I do not think that " Ersatz Israel " as I sometimes refer to it was founded " for Jews " - the reason for the Balfour Declaration was probably to provide a reason to claim territory close to the Suez Canal for British Interests.

It was in the nature of British Imperialism that colonisation tended to be led however by commercial interests - the unusual thing on this occasion was that those proposing the colony were SOME Jews and they had explicit ideas about OTHER Jews.

YES - " Ersatz Israel " was founded upon a racist basis - all European imperial projects were implicitly so ( although arguably under The East India Company the British were less racist in India before the British Government got involved.)

BUT - " Ersatz Israel " was explicitly conceived - before even the Balfour Declaration - upon a religiously sectarian basis, and I do not mean merely because Zionism is implicitly European : the Zionists explicitly intended to exclude certain Jews.

YES - that conception was later modified in order to allow immigration from all Jewry - BUT - that was because of an urgent need to have sufficient population to make the newly founded state to work hence - NO - it is not a homeland for Jews ...

" Ersatz Israel " is a state whose population serve those who first conceived of it and then those whom they welcomed ... then there were those they accepted ... then those they recruited ... arguably a class system which is sectarian and racist.

This is the kind of way that I think ... the term " anti-semitism " ought to be deconstructed : it is arguable that the Zionists in being upper middle class Europeans who did not welcome " the wrong sort of Jew " into their colony were anti-semites.

If " anti-semitism " means being treated with prejudice because of your racial origin, cultural practices or religious identity then surely in the layered society of " Ersatz Israel " anti-semitism is rife : or are the wrong sort of Jews content with this ?

Polemical ... but by a barely informed critic : whilst I react to it I have no prescriptions for the Israel-Palestine conflict other than the faith that whilst their leaders have much to gain from perpetrating it ordinary people on both sides do not want it.

In the hands of an imaginative and - more importantly - an informed polemicist an essay arguing that the very people who shriek so loudly about " anti-semitism " are in fact those most systematically practising it might at least be very amusing.

Perhaps you could pass this to somebody who might possess that ability ?

David B. Lawrence
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I print stuff out very rarely so I do not break open an ink cartridge for a couple of sheets but drop by the public library whose computers are all under surveillance by some sort of commercial programme which censors stuff according to the political views of those who either control or influence it ... Marianne and Dafydd/Moritz have not been censored e.g. for laying into Islamic " family values " when discussing the Laicite controversy in France ... but pages 4 and 10 of this Israel and Palestine thread are being censored : if you are viewing this in a country where Freedom of Speech still exists I invite you to decide for yourself as to whether the following bans by Cardiff City County Council are justified ... personally I think that they are not : this is happening all over the English speaking world and what is notable to me is that this is not happening in " Ersatz Israel " - so for all of its faults it still possesses Freedom of Speech ... I have twice asked CCCC to justify its censorship of " Y Repwblic " and it appears to be the case that this censorship has been decided by The Labour & Cooperative Party who have decided that political tolerance extends only to those who agree with themselves : this is what I am referring to when I damn The United Kingdom as a non-political system in which our politicians loudly profess to subscribe to the same values which are taken for granted in other countries but in fact practice " Demockery."

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given that two pages within this have been labeled " Intolerance " - because I discussed intolerance ? - this is sort of interesting -

http://mondoweiss.net/2017/03/permitted-ourselves-scholars/

We may no longer be permitted—nor permit ourselves—to enter Israel,’ 172 scholars write -

" ... The letter is being circulated by University of California scholar David Biale, who shared it with us, along with the names of the 172 signatories. [ = 12 March 2017 ] ...

" We, the undersigned scholars of Jewish studies, write to express our dismay over the bill passed on March 6 by the Israeli Knesset that would bar entry to any foreigner who supports the BDS movement or supports boycotting settlements or goods produced in the occupied territories. We are researchers with a wide range of professional, social, and personal ties to Israel and a diverse array of ideological positions. But we are unified in our belief that this law represents a further blow to the democratic foundations of Israel, continuing the process of erosion wrought by a recent series of bills including the Regulation Law, the Suspension of MKs Law, and the NGO Law, as well as the earlier Boycott Law. This is unacceptable.

We recall the words of Israel’s Proclamation of Independence promising “full freedom of conscience, worship, education and culture” to all in its midst. We also recall the yearning expressed in it to “admit Israel into the family of nations.” Recent policies, culminating in the latest Law of March 6, move Israel further away from these founding ideals. To begin imposing constraints on thought and speech, in this case directed against foreigners, is dangerous in and of itself. It joins a growing wave of anti-democratic acts in regimes the world over. But it also portends a time when these same constraints might be directed against Israel’s own citizens, especially those who do not support the primacy of Israel’s Jewish character over its democratic aspirations.

Among us are those who oppose the BDS movement, those who oppose BDS but support a settlement boycott, and those who support BDS. In spite of our different views, we stand in strong opposition to the new law. It will be bad for Israel, bad for the cause of democracy at this fragile moment, and bad for the principles of free speech and thought on which our scholarship is based. We hope that the Israeli judiciary will overturn the new law and assure us that our political speech will not prevent us from continuing our rich scholarly interactions with Israeli colleagues in the field of Jewish studies. Should the law stand, we may no longer be permitted—nor permit ourselves—to enter the State of Israel.

Signed,

...

[ Mondo Weiss' ] Editor’s Note : An earlier version of this post included the signatory “Adolph Hitler, National Socialist University of Berlin.” We are sorry to our readers for failing to catch this. David Biale who circulated the letter said, “It’s clear that someone was trying to sabotage our statement and we’re discussing how to put safeguards in place so it doesn’t happen again.” - See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2017/03/permitted-ourselves-scholars/#sthash.KjTX7iUR.dpuf

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oh oh oh ... so Netanyahoo wants to utterly destroy the credibility of Israel ? ... carry on then ...

http://mondoweiss.net/2017/03/interrogation-barghouti-movement/

BDS co-founder: Israel’s arrest and interrogation of Omar Barghouti next step in ‘war against BDS movement’

Palestinian society has condemned Israel’s arrest and interrogation of Omar Barghouti, a co-founder of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement as the next step in Israel’s fight against the BDS movement as a whole. ... Israel arrested Barghouti on Sunday, raided his family home in Acre, Israel, held him for 16 hours and released him — however the BDS co-founder has been subjected to daily interrogations with Israeli authorities since then, according to a statement released by the Palestinian Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions National Committee (BNC). ...

... “This kind of targeting won’t work simply because the BDS campaign isn’t one person or two people or ten people, it’s an organized movement of hundreds of thousands of people, if not more than that, who feel strongly about their fight against the occupation and feel strongly about their motivations in resistance,” Adnan continued. ... Adnan stressed that this move against Barghouti is not the first time Israel has targeted particular BDS activists for their work. ... “They have been arresting people since the beginning, and it’s all to pressure the people, but the people won’t be silent,” he said. “Palestinians have been resisting for more than 60 years, Israel can kill people, they can assassinate and detain leaders, but it won’t and can’t stop the struggle. All they are doing is holding the body of someone inside a wall, but they can’t hold ideas, or souls of people who believe in the importance of their role of humanity against occupation and injustice.” ...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trouble with writing on Y Repwblic is that it is not righting Y Repwblic ... our business is explaining Republicanism ... or at least our sensibilities about it ... but off-board we are involved in a few things ... but not this ... today ...

https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/israeli-governments-attack-jvp-sign-movement-palestinian-rights-growing-power/

" ... Chicago, IL (March 30, 2017) – Ahead of the largest ever gathering of Jewish Voice for Peace members, the Israeli Ministry of Strategic Affairs reportedly issued a statement attacking JVP. ... Rebecca Vilkomerson, JVP Executive Director: “The stronger the BDS movement becomes, the more the Israeli government demonstrates its growing alarm about the power of the movement for Palestinian rights. Our National Member Meeting, our largest ever, is proof that JVP is providing a political and spiritual home for a growing number of Jews who want to bring their full selves to this work.” ... Support for Palestinian rights is growing rapidly in the U.S., with recent polls demonstrating that Democrats are now equally sympathetic to Palestinians as they are to Israelis ... It couldn’t be more clear that the Israeli government is worried about the growing power of the BDS movement for Palestinian rights ... We look forward to be joined tomorrow by 1,000 Jewish Voice for Peace members, allies and partners to strategize, learn and build community as we deepen our commitment to fighting for freedom, justice and equality. ... "

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... er ... mmm ... I wonder whether that story was planted ... ? ...

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.780152

Israel Buys Social Media Monitoring System That Can 'Plant Ideas' in Online Discourse - Oded Yaron Apr 01, 2017

Software manual suggests that main use of the system isn’t to monitor individuals but to learn about trends and public sentiment ; the real question is what the government will do with it ... nah ... not even for a $ ... [ THE RUMOUR IS THAT THIS WILL CREATE THE EQUIVALENT OF THE TURING MACHINE - ABLE TO CONVINCINGLY ANSWER ANY QUESTION SO THAT THOSE INTERACTING WITH IT CAN NOT TELL THAT IT IS MERELY A VIRTUAL ROBOT PROGRAMMED BY OTHERS WITH NO MIND OF ITS OWN ] ...

[ ... https://www.knesset.gov.il/mk/eng/mkindex_current_eng.asp ... ]

... plenty of $$$s here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Wadi

[ ... TRY WRITING TO YOUR DEMOCRATS - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test ... ]
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmm ... still watching, wondering, pondering ... this deepening rift within Israeli society does not look promising for anybody involved or uninvolved ... I am not sure where to look for information : writing this often feels like mere self-indulgence and I guess that it is mostly about concerns within Wales but ... but ... if this sort of thing spreads - which it is doing - we are all in trouble ... it is as if Israel has become the seat of a disease from which an infection is spreading : perhaps more like the body politic being poisoned by a drug ... the thin skin of Eretz peeling away to demonstrate that this is Ersatz Israel ? ... After all TEN is the sacred number in Judaism ... but it is the number of lives being ruined or ended which really counts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_epidermal_necrolysis

Toxic epidermal necrolysis (TEN), also known as Lyell's syndrome, is a rare, life-threatening skin condition that is usually caused by a reaction to drugs. The disease causes the top layer of skin (the epidermis) to detach from the lower layers of the skin (the dermis), all over the body, leaving the body susceptible to severe infection. The case fatality ratio ranges from 25 to 30%, and death usually occurs as a result of sepsis and subsequent multiorgan system failure. Treatment primarily involves discontinuing the use of causative agent(s), and supportive care in either the intensive care unit or burn unit of a hospital.

[ THE FOLLOWING JUST BEWILDERS ME : A PLAGUE UPON ALL OF THEIR HOUSES - WE SHOULD FORGET WHO WE ARE AND REMEMBER GOD.]

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/04/03/israel/palestine-rights-workers-denied-gaza-access

" ... The Israeli military authorities are blocking access to and from the Gaza Strip for human rights workers who document abuses and advocate to end them, Human Rights Watch said in a report released today. ... The 47-page report, “Unwilling or Unable: Israeli Restrictions on Travel to and from Gaza for Human Rights Workers,” documents how Israel systematically bars human rights workers from traveling into and out of Gaza, even where the Israeli security services make no security claims against them as individuals. ... Egypt is also imposing severe travel restrictions on its border with Gaza. ... For the last two decades and especially since 2007, Israel has kept the Gaza Strip mostly closed, preventing Palestinians from leaving Gaza to pursue educational and professional opportunities, family visits and reunification, and medical care, save on an exceptional basis. The restrictions imposed by Egypt on its border with Gaza have significantly contributed to this de facto closure. ...

... The Hamas authorities are blocking nearly all travel out of Gaza, unless it is for medical care or to visit relatives in Israeli prisons. Males between the ages of 15 and 45 are being blocked from traveling altogether. These harsh and disproportionate restrictions are preventing young men from reaching badly needed medical care, and family visits to critically ill relatives or for funerals are among the kinds of travel blocked entirely. ... The Hamas authorities in Gaza do not adequately protect human rights workers from retribution and in some cases arrest and harass those who criticize Hamas or the activities of armed groups in Gaza. The inability to get foreign human rights workers into and out of Gaza, therefore, also limits the ability of human rights groups to document Palestinian abuses inside Gaza, because of safety concerns for local staff. ... "
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.782113

OPINION : Israeli Citizenship Doesn’t Mean You’re Israeli

Carolina Landsmann, Haaretz April 09, 2017

An Israeli girl, born in Israel to an Israeli father, will be deported with her mother, an Ethiopian citizen, following the mother’s divorce from the father before she received residency status in Israel. ... Is the state allowed to deport a minor Israeli citizen who has committed no crime? Absolutely. So ruled Judge David Mintz, when he denied the appeal to revoke a decision to deport the mother and child (Ilan Lior, Haaretz, April 4). ... And the public? It doesn’t care. It’s hard to think of a society whose civil awareness is more degenerate than Israel‘s. The story is complicated, they’ll say – as if not all stories are. An examination of its elements may explain the apathy.

I will not copy any more because this business was about racism carried beyond the plainly offensive into the psychotically absurd : it brings not merely Ersatz Israel into disrepute nor only Jews but Judaism itself - and sentences all those who may be associated with such calculating cruelty to ... well it might well be death ... yes - I know that far worse has been perpetrated by criminals claiming all sorts of reasons ... but not secular judges in modern courtrooms claiming to interpret religious laws : I do not think that any juror trained in The Talmud would have delivered such a judgment.

( pdf ) The Rights of the Child - Jewish Perspective - Rabbi David Rosen

" ... thus from a Jewish perspective, it would therefore be more correct to talk in terms of our duties and responsibilities towards the child. This point is important in conveying an essential orientation towards service rather than of claims ... not only are our lives not ours to dispose of but that we are obliged to protect the life and dignity of all human beings; ... [ G#D's ] very "character" (aforementioned) demands His special care for the vulnerable and calls upon us to be similarly specially concerned for and attentive to them. While the Bible also refers both to the stranger and widow as such, the ultimate paradigm of vulnerability is the orphan - the child victim of misfortune and often conflict and violence. ... Judaism accordingly lays down specifications not only for parents in relation to their offspring, but also for the community in relation to its children -especially those who do not enjoy parental protection; to provide for their food, clothing, health and education, as well as the means, as they mature, to marry and establish a family. ... "

... And you might also care to consider this advice in respect of Palestinian children ...

" ... While it is taken as axiomatic in Judaism that the child as a human being must be especially protected physically and emotionally, precisely because of the special vulnerability in physical and emotional formation; that very process of development is seen as requiring much more than attending only to the material and even emotional needs of the child. Judaism affirms that young persons are more than the product of an older generation - they are the guarantors of their posterity. It is this recognition of children's potential for renewal and continuity that led the sages of the Talmud to describe them as "the Messiahs of humankind". ... "

... Which leads into inpenetrable layers of associations within Middle Eastern culture ...

... e.g. when Jesus said he was " The Son of Man " what did he mean ?

... e.g. when Jesus welcomed children to him what did it signify to others ?

" ... Already at the Biblically mandated public reading of the Divine Revelation and Instruction by the King (Deuteronomy 31, v.10-12), not only the men and women but all the children are present as well. ... This idea served as the basis for the practice during the late Second Temple period of encouraging little children to be present in the synagogue (Babylonian Talmud, Hagigah,3a). ... "

I am not suited to arguing in this sort of way : the adherents of all faiths and supposedly none are trapped between the texts which they supposedly subscribe to and those interpreting their religious traditions ... but nobody can transfer the responsibility for their actions onto somebody else and sin mostly consists of standing idly by and not resisting an evil - even if all you can do is note to yourself that what is being done is wrong.

Jesus' saying " resist not evil " is a phrase translated from ( Aramaic ? )

My advice is to distrust both words and the ideas which they represent.

But then an unskilled worker inevitably blames his tools.

Which tool am I groping for ? ... The Rule of Law : nobody above, below or placed outside of it.

Not even G#D - because He / She / It has not made The Law only then to violate it.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.788280

Need I comment ?

Understand my concerns now ?
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/11/israel-muezzin-bill-seeks-judaisation-jerusalem-161116101604441.html

https://www.adalah.org/en/content/view/7771

http://www.jonathan-cook.net/2017-05-11/israels-jewish-nation-state-bill-declaration-of-war/
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This seems appropriately placed here - what was that about above ?

So what does it mean to be " oppressed " ?_It is something much like being depressed :_You despair of being treated well_& your every word is their death knell_But whether victim or victor - you will end up distressed. = mmm = dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his morals right

So what does it mean to be " oppressed " ?_
It is something much like being depressed :_
You despair of being treated well_
& your every word is their death knell_
But whether victim or victor - you will end up distressed.

= mmm = dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his morals right

I am left wondering as to whether I am intuiting bad news.

OK - funnyish -

https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/trump-tweets-seder-1.435991

ER - strangish -

https://www.thejc.com/comment/columnists/melanie-phillips-donald-trump-is-no-antisemite-1.434515

UM -

https://www.thejc.com/news/world/ivanka-trump-and-jared-kushner-get-rabbinical-pass-to-fly-to-saudi-arabia-on-shabbat-1.438880

MMM -

https://www.thejc.com/news/world/trump-has-destroyed-reputation-of-his-top-jewish-lawyer-1.438555

AHA -

https://www.thejc.com/news/world/trump-is-eroding-trust-say-ex-israeli-spy-chiefs-1.438819

HUH -

https://www.thejc.com/comment/analysis/israel-fears-trump-visit-could-bring-disaster-1.438748

YES -

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/trump-s-popularity-crashes-among-israelis-1.438823

- NO : I HAVE NOT GOT A CLUE AS TO WHETHER THAT IS NEWS

It is however illustrative of how foreign politicians tend to play upon each stage of the Israeli-Palestinian tragedy - ignoring the scripts provided and using it merely as a scenic backdrop for their own soliloquisms ? ... On the other hand - and much to Donald Trump's credit - nobody has succeeded before in turning this into a comedy ?
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... mmm ... but ought I to support everything - treating my name as cheap ?

http://50enough.nif.org/about/

" We oppose the occupation because we care about Israel and about human rights. The occupation is Israel’s military rule over the lives of millions of Palestinians. And it hangs like a cloud over all of Israel, eroding democratic values, poisoning relations between Jews and Arabs within Israel, and undermining the prospects for peace. No problem that is swept under the rug will ever be solved. We who care about Israel can join together, speak out boldly, and act in support of Israelis who are keeping the occupation on the public agenda.A central part of the answer will need to come from the Israeli street, from a larger, more efficient, and better coordinated movement of Israelis who want to see the occupation end. In fact, the number of Israelis who oppose the occupation is bigger than most people realize. But they need to be better informed; they need to be able to speak out without fear of retribution; they need the connections and the know-how to effectively mobilize. ... They also need to see that there is a worldwide network of people who care about Israel and who stand with them in the desire to see the occupation end. ... That’s where we come in. We can provide the resources that these Israelis need. We can take a stand. ... "

http://50enough.nif.org/event/today-1992-israels-fiercest-critic-occupation-publishes-first-book-english/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshayahu_Leibowitz

Yeshayahu Leibowitz (Hebrew: ישעיהו ליבוביץ‎‎‎; 29 January 1903 – 18 August 1994) was an Israeli Jewish public intellectual, professor of biochemistry, organic chemistry and neurophysiology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and a polymath known for his outspoken opinions on Judaism, ethics, religion and politics. ...

... In a 1968 essay titled "The Territories", Leibowitz postulated a hellish future:

" ... The Arabs would be the working people and the Jews the administrators, inspectors, officials, and police—mainly secret police. A state ruling a hostile population of 1.5 to 2 million foreigners would necessarily become a secret-police state, with all that this implies for education, free speech and democratic institutions. The corruption characteristic of every colonial regime would also prevail in the State of Israel. The administration would suppress Arab insurgency on the one hand and acquire Arab Quislings on the other. There is also good reason to fear that the Israel Defense Forces, which has been until now a people's army, would, as a result of being transformed into an army of occupation, degenerate, and its commanders, who will have become military governors, resemble their colleagues in other nations ... "

" ... In 1993, he was selected for the Israel Prize. Before the award ceremony, Leibowitz was invited to speak to the Israel Council for Israeli–Palestinian Peace, where his controversial remarks calling upon Israeli soldiers to refuse orders triggered outrage (and Yitzhak Rabin had threatened to boycott the ceremony). The jury convened to discuss the possibility of withdrawing the prize, but Leibowitz himself announced that he would refuse to accept it, because he did not want to create antagonism when receiving the prize ... "

http://50enough.nif.org/strategies-and-impact/

http://www.btselem.org

http://www.acri.org.il/en/

http://bimkom.org/eng/

http://english.shatil.org.il

http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il

https://www.yesh-din.org/en/

https://www.adalah.org/en

https://www.zazim.org.il/en/home-en

http://www.tagmeiren.media-sb.co.il/About-Us.htm

http://www.newisraelfund.org.uk

http://www.nif.org
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The Slurpless Knight - 03.00am - just listened to this : murky but merciful - demonstrates reasons for hopes & fears ... Either I need some very strong coffee or some sleep ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0531xq7

Inside the Israeli Hospital
The Documentary

Tim Samuels spends 24 hours immersed in an extraordinary medical scene - Israeli doctors tending to Syrians who have been smuggled over the border for life-saving treatment into a country Syria is technically still at war with.

In the Ziv hospital in the northern Israeli town of Safed, Tim follows two doctors on their rounds as they treat Syrians - both civilians and fighters - who have been seriously wounded in their country's civil war. Unable to get proper medical attention at home, they are amongst several thousand Syrians who have headed to the border and into Israel for treatment. Tim meets a Syrian man shot during conflict; once his leg has been repaired he intends to head back to rejoin the fight.

On the children's ward, a mother who has brought her son for treatment describes how her trip to Israel must remain a secret - or she fears she could be killed when they return. On the Syrian border, Tim sees two badly wounded fighters smuggled into Israel by the IDF as they are rushed to Ziv for emergency attention.
In the hospital - staffed by Jewish, Muslim and Druze medics - the doctors talk about the psychological toll of treating the war wounded. A hospital social worker describes waking up repeatedly through the night at home to check that his young son was not injured. The doctors at Ziv say they hope their work is at least a sliver of humanity in a dark region.

Tim explores what motivations might underpin Israel's assistance to those coming from enemy territory - and how such an unusual situation, even by Middle Eastern standards, has come about.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that I may be running a fever - is she singing to The People in Palestine ?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WwBG45WiyVs

Human Tissue' (originally written by Chava Alberstein), at Yad Vashem 2014.

"When I die,
something of you, something of you
will die with me, will die with me.

When you die,
something of me, something of yours in me
will die with you, will die with you."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yn7FLSctfwI

"Someone, someone worries
Worries for me up there
Came and lit a few stars
And they fall one by one.

We are turning in two different ways
Day and night to their length
Tired and hungry
In the paths of dust and time.

We'll meet at the end of paths and questions
We will meet at the end of many days,
at the end of many nights

The spring passed, the summer went, and the rain returned.

Someone, someone worries
Worries for me up there
Came and lit a few stars
And they fall one by one."

A song by Hebrew writer Ehud Manor, at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, Israel, on Yom HaShoah (יום הזיכרון לשואה ולגבורה), Holocaust Memorial Day. Singing for remembering the people who were killed in the holocaust and for all the victims of terrorist attacks. ...

... [ AH : SO THE VICTIMS IN PALESTINE ARE INCLUDED - GOOD.] ...

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I ought to get my attention more evenly balanced - but my faith is that there are enough good people on either side to recognise the obvious : that they are in fact on the same side - it is The Democrats in The World who profit from this.

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5411#5411


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A Chassid gentleman was well known to dance_In public extolling in long rambling rants_That we solely should clothe ourselves in doing G#d's work_I.e. in performing each mitzvah we must not shirk_" Yes ! " said the Beth Midrash " But keep your underpants ON !!! " = dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence

A Chassidic gentleman was well known to dance_
In public extolling in long rambling rants_
That we solely should clothe ourselves in doing G#d's work_
I.e. in performing each mitzvah we must not shirk_
" Yes ! " said the Beth Midrash " But keep your underpants ON !!! "

= dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts the moral right - not to sue for copyright !
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The Exodus / The trek through Sinai / was quite a gig :_There was simply not a /single/ drop to swig_And to the/ir pleas of hunger from his /following/ band_Moses /mysteriously/replied with this command -_" You will/shall not eat the flesh of pig ! " = The Israelites looked all around_At Sinai's dry and barren ground_" There are no pigs ! " - then Aaron said_" Can we not eat something else instead ? "_" Shellfish." - Nobody made a single sound. = Until a camel appeared upon a dune_And their eyes now shone beneath the moon_" No ! " said Moses - all aloof -_" It has to have a cloven hoof -_And ruminate - and sing a tune - " = Most of these people were now feeling misled :_As slaves back in Egypt at least they were fed_And had homes to go to - and had not been chased -_So now they regreted their leaving in haste : _Feeling quite miserable they all went to bed. = When the sun was rising they all got quite a shock_For everywhere around them it looked as if a flock_Of tiny little spherical sticky fluffy sheep_Had been sprouting suddenly whilst they were all asleep_And then for something to wash these down - Moses struck a rock.

TRICKY VERSE

Until a lonely camel appeared upon a dune_
When all eyes were fixed upon it beneath a salivating moon_
And all eyes were fixed upon it beneath the fullest moon_
Upon which all eyes were fixed beneath the fullest moon_
At which their eyes now shone again beneath the fullest moon_
At which their eyes grew bigger than the shiney moon_

" No ! " said Moses - all aloof -_
" It has to have a cloven hoof -_
And ruminate - dance - and sing a tune - "


The Exodus was quite a gig :_
There was simply not a drop to swig_
And to pleas of hunger from his band_
Moses replied with this command -_
" You will not eat the flesh of a pig ! "

The Israelites looked all around_
At Sinai's dry and barren ground_
" There are no pigs !!! " - then Aaron said -_
" Can we not eat something else instead ? "_
" Shellfish." ... No one made a single sound.

Until a lonely camel appeared upon a dune_
Where all eyes were fixed upon it beneath a salivating moon_
And all their eyes were fixed upon it beneath a drooling moon -_
And all eyes were fixed upon it beneath the drooling moon -_
And all their eyes were fixed upon it beneath the drooling moon -_
" No ! " said Moses - all aloof -_
" It has to have a cloven hoof -_
And ruminate - and dance - and sing a tune - "

Many of The People were now feeling quite misled :_
As slaves back home in Egypt at least they had been fed -_
Indeed they all had homes to go to - and never had been chased -_ chaste -
So now they rather were regretting having cast their votes in haste : _
Disaffected towards The Hierocrats they all went straight to bed.

When the sun was rising they all got quite a shock_
For everywhere around them it looked as if a flock_
Of tiny little spherical sticky fluffy sheep_
Had been sprouting all around them whilst they were asleep_
And then for something to wash these down - Moses struck a rock.

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[ In Moses' time there were no camels - they evolved in America and were later imported into Israel.]
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I thought that I was going to link that to refusing of water rights to The People in Palestine ... Certainly they need to be rid of all of this shit ...

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.795201

Gaza Power Crisis Explained: Why Israel and Hamas Are Heading for a Face-off Neither Side Wants - Amos Harel Jun 12, 2017

With Israel's decision to curb power supply to Gaza, the Strip is coming to a boiling point

Like the proverbial frog slowly cooking in a pot with the water temperature rising so gradually it doesn�t sense the danger, so the Gaza Strip is coming to this summer�s boiling point. Without it being either side�s objective, without any interest to be served by escalation, it looks as if Israel and Hamas are getting closer to a confrontation, with the active and exceptional encouragement of the Palestinian Authority. ...

... The decision by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to ratchet up the economic pressure on the Hamas government in the Strip is the primary reason for the new tensions. Ten years after senior Fatah officials were booted out of Gaza, with the Hamas leadership refusing to recognize any sign of PA authority in the Strip, it seems that Abbas is tired of funding his political rivals. The sanctions on Gaza included lopping a third off the salaries of PA employees in the Strip, reducing the financial support for released prisoners and serious disruptions in the electricity supply. ...

... ... The electricity is the most critical element in the picture. On normal days, Israel supplies 123 megawatts to Gaza through 10 power lines; 60 additional megawatts come from Gaza�s own power station (which is running at only half-capacity and relies on diesel fuel imported through Israel). When there are no malfunctions, another 23 megawatts are supplied by two Egyptian power lines. ... ...

... The PA has already stopped paying the tax on the diesel fuel (which was being offset from the taxes it gets from Israel, which collects them on the PA�s behalf), which has shut down the power plant and is threatening to also stop funding the power from Israel. The combination of both these steps is liable to reduce the daily supply of power to Gaza to below its current level of four hours a day, which is already forcing citizens to rely on generators when possible, seriously undermines the operations of hospitals and disrupts waste treatment and the supply of potable water. ...

[ THIS WAS SUCH A WELL-WRITTEN PIECE OF JOURNALISM THAT EVERY WORD COUNTS AND I CAN NOT TAKE IT ALL : GO READ IT IF POSSIBLE ]

[ SOME NICE OPTIMISTIC NEWS - http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-1.796329 ]


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Yes - I know that I have got to get back on the subject but whilst there is a lot happening - here as well as there - I am not excited by it : this might entertain the reader instead ?

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5563#5563

I guess that the uninformed reader may be wondering why The Cardiff Illuminati debate religious matters so much : one of the attractions of early 16c - 17c Republicanisms for us is a debate now mostly ignored which is about the way in which Civil Religion can be used to promote Virtue. It was their critiques of religious authorities which led to Republicans like Machiavelli, Spinoza and Roussesau etc being vilified and denounced. This debate is of course very relevant to Ersatz Israel pronouncing itself to be a Jewish State and displaying The Magen on its flag, The Menorah ( without even one branch burning ) on its passport etc whilst regularly violating the moralities and ethics of Judaism. True : Machiavelli said that in order to protect The Public Interest by securing The State against enemies it is permissable to violate conventional moralities and ethics - but not to utterly disregard and abandon those conventions. The Jewish State must embody and portray the moralities and ethics of Judaism or it will corrupt and ultimately destroy both the society which it is supposed to be defending and the religion which it claims to inspire it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourses_on_Livy

http:/lwww.constitution.org/mac/disclivy1.htm

http://www.bookrags.com/studyguide-the-discourses/#gsc.tab=0

... Virtuous and great leaders have a crucial function in maintaining a flourishing society. They govern the people but also have the ability to incite them to virtue and great works, not only as citizens, but as warriors. Both forms of virtue are necessary to prevent republics from being destroyed from without and decaying from within. Machiavelli expresses moderate trust in the people, often arguing that the people are wiser than princes, though leadership is required in cases of danger ...
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This is an interesting looking article in The New Yorker about Haaretz which I am going to finish reading any day now ... should I be punning " Herr Satz " ?

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/02/28/the-dissenters

[ Haaretz means " The Land " and it is arguably the only remaining Liberal Left newspaper in Israel - the last best hope for mankind ... or possibly not : it has maintained a very high standard of journalism in the face of a dreadful Hierarchy : an example of true religion, willing to give Satan a fair hearing and ready to hold God to account ... Herr Satz would be " Mr Sentence / Clause / Proposition / Theorum etc " but satz is somehow also used about old fashioned newspaper ( lead ) typesetting.]
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http://www.jpost.com/American-Politics/Israel-dramatically-losing-support-among-Jewish-college-students-in-US-497605

MASSIVE DROP IN US JEWISH COLLEGE STUDENTS' SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL'

BY DANIELLE ZIRI JUNE 22, 2017 14:22

As anti-Israeli fervor intensifies in US colleges,researchers warn against losing the next generation.

... Support for Israel has dropped 27 percentage points among Jewish college students in the US since 2010, a study released by Brand Israel Group at the Herzliya Conference this week revealed. ... According to the research, in 2010, 84% of US Jewish college students leaned toward the Israeli side of the conflict with the Palestinians. But in 2016, only 57% did, believing Israel falls short with values such as human rights, tolerance and diversity. ... In addition, Jewish college students grew increasingly supportive of the Palestinians, with a jump from 2% in 2010 to 13% in 2016. ... ... In 2016, 54% overall expressed views in favor of Israel, compared with 73% in 2010, a decrease of 19 percentage points. For Jewish college students specifically, 82% held positive views of Israel in 2016, compared with 95% in 2010. The same trend was noted for African-Americans, Hispanics and Democrats surveyed. ... Thirty-six percent of US college students said they have witnessed anti-Israel activity on campus, and most students, 77%, say the subject of Israel either rarely or never comes up. ... When asked the same questions, Jewish students seemed more attuned, with 48% saying Israel comes up in discussions on campus and 62% saying they have seen anti-Israel activity. In addition, 31% of Jewish students have experienced antisemitism. More than half of those said it was related to anti-Israel attitudes.

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Threat-Within-Century-Opposition-Zionism/dp/1842776991

A Threat from Within: A Century of Jewish Opposition to Zionism - Yakov M Rabkin

A Threat from Within presents a history of Jewish opposition to Zionism, and challenges the myths that lie at the very root of contemporary or 'new' anti-Semitism. A principled and enduring opposition to Zionism has come from spiritual leaders of Judaism and has not died away despite the State of Israel existence as an imposing military power. The violence in Israel/Palestine acquires a different meaning when seen in the context of internal opposition to Zionism. Dire warnings voiced at the birth of Zionism now sound prophetic. The anti-Zionists have claimed all along that far from 'solving the Jewish question' and offering Jews a safe haven, Zionism would only fan hatred of the Jews. A Threat from Within and its seemingly paradoxical theme - Jews opposing Zionism in the name of Judaism - will fascinate a wide range of readers from different political and religious orientations. Yakov Rabkin‘s book has been translated into several languages and has been nominated for the 2006 Governor General‘s Literary Awards, Canada‘s most prestigious literary prize.
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Jews used to be scared of the Czar :_When The Cossacks appeared they ran far_Away now in Israel they all have forgotten_What a Czar looks like and now this misbegotten_Netanyahoo they run to instead - it's bizarre.
Jews used to be scared of the Czar :_
When The Cossacks appeared they ran far_
Away now in Israel they all have forgotten_
What a Czar looks like and now this misbegotten_
Netanyahoo they run to instead - it's bizarre.

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