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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:04 am    Post subject: " MUSIC without a purpose is just NOISE " Reply with quote

" MUSIC without a purpose is just NOISE " ... Dick Gaughan says in this Communist Party video ... politics of course - but surely also for pleasure too ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6X1qPc0riE - Dick Gaughan - Song and the Working Class Movement

( It is rather nice to see the Communist Party at prayer - I have always been very fond of kinds of people that it contains even if the politics is ... )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwoLxxkdu4Q - Dick Gaughan - Song and the Working Class Movement - Further Discussion

I'm just putting down a note here at the end of the evening ( 02.50 am ? ) as I unwind ... youtube just moved onto this next " song " from this song -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmpPa4Gozmo - No Gods and Precious Few Heroes - Dick Gaughan

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... well ... hours later I am having restless night which is featuring an awful lot of plinky-plonky ... but serendippydously this documentary turned up along the way in my meandering through some folkal points ... and demonstrates the awful inauthenticity of Celtificational Enculturation ... and nice footage there at the beginning of the Hierarchy ... and damn I agree with what that guy said about his having to go step-dancing before the nuns ... " ... politicians don't seem to understand what culture is : it's an expression of one's genuine emotional, sensual, intellectual preoccupations - and they seem to want to paste it onto us in some way ... " ... This is actually a very good RTE ... or was it BBC ... documentary ... the Communist Party features here again around 11.00 ( I think that I spotted Ewan Mc Coll in there at the back of a London pub - on the paper and comb ? ) ... then it moves back to Ireland to Flann O'Brian and Brendan Behan and the rebels against DeV ... and then it immigrates to America ( where the Irish all came from originally ) to consult with Bob Dylan ... then they were all thrown out again and had to swim back across the pond ... to consult with the Beatles ... then finally they dug their way back home via Greenland ... using banjos ... to rescue Ireland from The Wrong Republicans ... 40.00+ the business of running guns and money to Northern Ireland in exchange for potatoes and vinyl 45s ... then they laid serious siege to Dublin with bazookis ... and Planxy were finally welcomed ...

Irish Folk Music Revival - Documentary (90mins) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39D0J8SzQMA

...to return to Dick Gaughan's premise " MUSIC without a purpose is just NOISE " - this documentary sort of demonstrates that proposition in the way that DeV and others tried to undo the history of the Irish nation and reach back " into " a past which in fact came out of their imaginations, as if pronouncing their ideas in a very solemn and certain way could make their proposals authoritative i.e. they invoked the false idea of the sovereignty of the state as derived from a Democratic mandate instead of consulting with the true political authority to be found in the lives of The People in Ireland. They built the Irish Free State upon the same model as The United Kingdom excepting that they raised the Green, White and Orange tricolour over it and declared that Republicanism was the business of pursuing their own interests ( which were essentially the fantasies of a Hierarchy which was Catholicism secularised ) by coercing The People in Ireland to sing and dance for their pleasure i.e. not for the pleasure of The People in Ireland ... Ninety years ago they tried to institute a version of the compulsory happiness which the Conservative & Unionist Party are apparently planning to try to institute here and now in The United Kingdom in 2015 ...

... But singing and dancing are things that anyone will do naturally when they are happy and joyful, when it is a pleasure to both themselves and to others ...

... Now go to any place where official culture is a matter of prescription, obedience and therefore imitation and you will not see any of these normal spontaneous gestures - everybody is terrified of ending up being arrested for not officially laughing in the officially prescribed way at the officially approved comedians ... and equally they are all terrified that they have all previously officially laughed in the officially prescribed way at the officially approved comedian who was officially executed this morning ... and therefore that they might be officially in trouble as soon as his sentence has been pronounced after the officially prescribed lunchtime before his official trial this afternoon ... but then of course he may be officially pardoned tomorrow morning ... and shortly afterwards there might even be an official apology for not knowing the sex of the criminal who was officially executed as prescribed ... and then there may be the official announcement that she has been officially pardoned in the prescribed way ... and then she might even be officially appointed to be prescribed as Chiefly The Commedienne Of All Four Fifths Of Ireland ...

NOW I MUST WARN ISSUE AN OFFICIAL WARNING TO YOU THIS WAS NOT ONE OF THE KINDS OF JOKES WHICH ARE OFFICIALLY PRESCRIBED IN THE UNITED KINGDOM AND ANYBODY OFFICIALLY FOUND TO BE IN POSSESSION OF A PROSCRIBED JOKE SUCH AS THIS WILL IN ALL LIKELYHOOD DEEPLY REGRET THE OFFICIALLY PRESCRIBED CONSEQUENCES - ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE UNABLE TO KEEP A STRAIGHT FACE : WHATEVER YOU DO - DO NOT LAUGH AT MY JOKES !!!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... and by chance I have just run across this documentary : of course the Communists seized on Folk Music as a vehicle in the post-war years, but it had already previously come to the attention of The Green Shirts etc in England and Wales i.e. the softer sort of Fascism of which Plaid Cymru has one of its historical roots in and of which UKIP is a modern manifestation of - only without the healthier aspects of Fascism which usually involved chasing girls around beaches and making out that it was folk-dancing ... one of the origins of the Folk Revival between the wars was the use of Morris Dancing for re-habilitating the shell-shocked ... !!! ... the use of broadside ballads etc in the 19c for propaganda was tremendously important - and dangerous : The United Kingdom used to have laws against it and several singers learned to sing and dance upon thin air at the end of a rope ... Woody Guthrie would have been one such, but he wisely made sure that he was born in America ... whereas I was born here and was brought up too poor to go and listen to this stuff -

The Great Folk Revival - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPu-c_noqsI

BBC Arena - Woody Guthrie (1988) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EnXnFgnkUc

FOLK BRITANNIA - BALLADS & BLUES - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5QJOD7LvTk&list=PLCBEC673A3DB95F60
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