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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:09 am    Post subject: Personal styles of writing in Y Repwblic Reply with quote

Since Marianne has decided to drop by and contribute in her own particular style - after I have been keeping up the board for rather too long on my own - the difference in styles is perhaps striking, not to mention the differences of opinions despite the fact that she and I have known each other for over half of our lifetimes. The apparently crazy contradictions, or just plain craziness, does not really matter in such political circles as ours where conversations are indeed sociable ones in which the ashes of old arguments are occasionally raked through again and the embers of old disputations have fresh fuel dumped down upon them in order to prove once again that there can be an awful lot of smoke without any real fire - and occasionally the exception proves the rule and the whole think blazes forth with the flickering flames of an enlightenment.

To help the readers and any potential writers of Repwblic understand the disposition of this particular group that we either used to belong to or still do, depending upon our own understandings of the ultraply-multiplied and hyper-spaced dimensionalities of Republicanism in Wales, I thought that I would slightly doctor and paste in the following recent correspondence ... and then I paused for thought ... Herein I can be seen to be beginning to now bend my use of language and thus polemicise against " Democratic Republicanism " by arguing my way towards a more Pure Republicanism in order to disentangle all of the Republicanisms in Wales from its failing Democracy and cut them free so that we can criticise it uncompromisingly.

What I have reflected upon after re-reading these is that Repwblic does not really reflect an important aspect of the reality of Republicanism in Wales as I know it in that it just portrays our political aesthetic without laying bare the nitty-gritty of the individual campaigns that are being conducted all over Wales, each as often as not now generating their own websites which never mention that Republicans in Wales are involved because the presence of people identifying themselves as Republicans in Wales is superfluous to their aims and declaring that to be the case can often be the kiss of death to an otherwise successful campaign due to the ignorant bigoted prejudices against our political convictions that have been cultivated by the " big stories " of the Democrats in their political parties.

Whilst Republicanisms each have what might be termed " big stories " of their own such as the often abused idea of " The People " their political aesthetics are in essence all directed towards listening to those " little stories " being told by " The People " as individuals who can thus contribute the most valuable thing in any decision making process : information. The " big stories " of Republicanisms are therefore not like the " big stories " of Democrats such as the mythic nationalism of Plaid Cymru, the legendary individualism of the Liberal Democrats, the historicising symbolism of the Conservative & Unionist Party, or the dramatising tribalism of the Labour & Cooperative Party, because by definition in order to be classifiable as Republicanisms these must be meta-ideologies capable of understanding all ideologies both on their own terms and in terms which can both explain the contradictions between ideologies and reconcile them in such a way as to produce a harmonious political system. Republicanisms have therefore inevitably both drawn upon and inspired the " big stories " of religion, philosophy, science and art - and so their overall scope is directed towards our total understanding of Wales and the World and they thus may almost only incidently merely include politics.

Hence, by and by, many subjects and ideas may be found to be creeping into the discussions on the web pages of Y Repwblic, and - to be honest - who gives a damn if they do ?

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Subject: RE: SCRIPT
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 23:31:56 +0000

Dear XXXX,

just discussing writing on the phone before I turned to look at emails - comparing what we are writing for.

YYYY says that she writes for publication and can not be motivated to write otherwise.

I very rarely write for submission for publication but instead use writing as a way of talking and joking to myself out loud.

I still write this way on the website but I do usually try to sharpen my metaphorical biro beforehand on a piece of paper.

YYYY is determined to present authoratative articles whereas I not only seek to subvert the authority of others but also I usually deliberately subvert any apparent claim to authority by myself - I detest lazy people who want to be told what they ought to think, who steal their opinons out of books or borrow them from others : this kills the political process which needs people to contribute to it themselves in order to make it rational and to participate in it in order to learn to reason.

YYYY presents her politics in detailed factual accounts of specific events and situations like a social scientist, but I often wince at this sort of thing as she winces at my airy generalisations and shaggy-dragon stories to illustrate political ideas.

She thinks that whilst I am amusing sometimes I tend to discredit the important things which I am arguing by trivialising them whilst ... well I feel that she perhaps makes trivial things overly important, interpretting them in terms of grand narratives ... this is I feel what people who want to feel important do, what they are taught to do by the political systems of the United Kingdom and other states : I perceive Democratic politicians to be conning their electorates by persuading them that by voting for them they are associating themselves with these grand narratives - whereas the hidden story line of Democratic politics is that the stories of " ordinary " people are therefore of no consequence and not to be listened to. But there are no " ordinary " people : in order to make good political decisions you need to listen to the stories of millions of people each of whom each have extraordinary things to tell politicians about their lives. Democrats see people merely as potential voters and therefore tell them big stories as the means to obtain power, whereas Republicans listen to the little stories of people in order to potentially empower them to govern themselves.

David B. Lawrence,

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Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 18:00:39 +0100
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No its 1st draught - but I can send a better copy, thanks for reading it, as you probably know writing is an uphill sport.

XXXX

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Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2013, 14:50
Subject: RE: SCRIPT

Dear XXXX,

it seemed all right to me although I have difficulty getting a feel from script formats - the narrow columnar bit I feel does not help my reading it but I appreciate that it is a convention. What made you choose the subject ?

Do you consider it to be finished or at least in a state that I might pass it on to another ?

David B. Lawrence,

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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 21:00:50 +0100
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HI Dave, please have a sample read - what do you think?

Your views and feelings are important to me as a writer.

XXXX

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Sent: Thursday, 26 September 2013, 15:09
Subject: Ah ... I see that I am not the only one ...

Somebody is collecting all things Welsh on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/channel/HC37INaz_vHNc

And this was the guy that annoyed me ... the one that thinks that ' hwyl fawr ' means ' big fun ' ( actually means ' full sail ' )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPYkYfi_IiM&list=TLKUN4jGLD7KTVJClAkb9EIKcUVTLaM3R4

Ah ... I see that I am not the only one ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ombyklkifIc

David B. Lawrence,
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A SNIPPET OF CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN ME AND DAF ... ( HE DRINKS WHILST I DRIVE AND HE CRITICISES ... NEVER ! ) ... ALMOST RELEVANT -

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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 23:32:13 +0100

Rather than having pie under circumstances, I prefer ZERO pie.

Pie = your joy

Your joy = short cuts, whimsy and car breaking

Indeed, I prefer zero short cuts rather than car breaking with conditions.

[ " PIE " = TERM FOR AN ARGUMENT THAT WE ARE HAVING ABOUT HOW WE INTERACT SOCIALLY - DERIVED FROM HARRINGTON'S CAKE-CUTTING THEORUM, WHICH IS THE ORIGINS OF " THE PRISONERS' DILLEMMA " ]

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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 10:06:03 +0000

Dafydd,

you smash up a lot of the things that you own : cars, bikes, computers ... and you actually take as many short cuts as I do.

What is Galborg but a whimsy ? It is OK - it is your creativity ... only you are miserable and have lost your " Magic Powers."

You like me to listen to your short cuts : once you launch you are most entertaining - and I miss our " script storming " ...

You are lonely ... and so am I : I like to go out in your company because you have a way of charming people which I do not.

I am pissed off that you will not write on http://repwblic.informe.com because it needs somebody to differ from my views.

That is how REPUBLICANISM works - remember ? - the DIALECTIC ... only you do not have to even pay any attention to me.

If you do not understand it yet - let me explain it again : the bigger that REPWBLIC.INFORME.COM gets - the more the hits.

The more hits it gets - the more that conventional normal authentic forms of Republicanism ( perhaps not mine ! ) are once more restored to view ... in other words the task before us is to at least try to counter the baneful influence of those books by journalists ( like John Humphries and his " Freedom Fighters " ) who are writing sensationalist rubbish for money without it ever crossing their minds to ever read any authentic Republican material and thus notice that it has nothing to do with armed insurrections or criminal conspiracies other than it observes these to be consequences of political failure.

The emerging aspect of Repwblic.informe.com's unexpected success is its huge international audience each year - so if you were ever going to retrieve those stories about the Republic of Galborg what better place then to gain an audience for them than by posting them on Repwblic ? You would be able to measure the interest which they elicit by the hits recorded and use that information to take another crack at persuading the paper publishers to get over their neuroses about the word " Republican " ... and ... if I dare remind you ... Galborg is an historic part of the culture of Republicanism in Wales.

I do not want people to just paste in reams of stuff culled from elsewhere but to use a few quotes as a seed from which to write for themselves to gain the courage to each express themselves according to their own ability about what interests them - and it does not have to be self-consciously Republican : I count Republicanism to be simply that original natural political method which is common to all humanity - simply holding conversations in order to entertain, inform and mutually understand each other ... in other words, it is all about Life ... whereas, frankly my lovely, Star Trek is Death to The Republic - not to mention the Jelly-Jugglies and " The One Man and his Party " or in our case, " The Woman."

C'mon : this is our duty in our generation to Y Repwblic Yng Nghymru - to restore Republicanism to the political discourse.

... and by the way ... I need somebody independent of me, possibly of Repwblic - to run this bank account for " Cock Aid."

David B. Lawrence
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Subject: FW: READ THESE PIECES BY MARIANNE
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 15:17:51 +0000

Dear Marianne,

I sent the following below to Daf - and put in the wrong link ! - I like the way that you wrote this, so different to my style.

http://repwblic.informe.com/royal-visits-dt436-20.html

David B. Lawrence

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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 15:13:53 +0000

Dear Daf,

read the end of this thread : now are these ( THREE ) pieces by Marianne not crisply written and usefully informative ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFozm4nAKDg

I do not see any need for any conformity of viewpoints, but rather for pieces of writing which just illustrate how people think.

The only thing to avoid I think is to damn ordinary people, but of course anyone can reply to criticism by writing on the board.

I would not even bother to damn individual politicians, even though in being elected I automatically class them as criminals.

What is needed is the kind of thing which you are able to do so well : a rumbustious tour de force, the grand sweep of ideas.

David B. Lawrence
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PERHAPS USEFULLY STUCK IN HERE : I THOUGHT THAT MAY BE I SHOULD EXPLAIN SOME OF THE TERMS I USE TO MY NEW SOLICITORS ( AS SENT TO OTHERS - NOT TO THEM ) -

From: David B Lawrence
Sent: 06 December 2016 21:50
Subject: COMFORT WRITING : UNFINISHED UNSENT DRAFT : AN OUTLINE OF - REPUBLICANISM - MY BROAD BRUSH DESCRIPTION FOR XXXXXXXX SOLICITORS

IT WAS DIFFICULT TO FIND A NEW SYMPATHETIC AND TOLERANT SOLICITOR : I RECOMMEND XXXXXXXX TO EVERYONE

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Dear XXXXXXXX

I mentioned " Y Repwblic " to you and I guess that in a court room you may be asked what I do for a living or with my time.

As a Quaker I will always strive to answer any question you put to me truthfully : The Affirmation cost over five hundred lives.

Many people think that Quakers are odd : most Quakers think that the " Pure Republican " in their midst is also rather odd.

I could write you a brief biography of how I came to hold my very obscure views and why they are upsetting people.

But I think that rather than the full cwtch I will just orientate you to some of the jargon that I use in my recreational writing.

Renaissance Republicanisms ( 1450 - 1650 ) Theological ideologies : The Religious Society of Friends is a strange survival.

Neo-Classical Republicanisms ( 1650 - 1850 ) Philosophical : Destutt de Tracy led me to conceive " Ideo-Rational Analysis "

Modernist / Postmodernist Republicanisms ( 1850 - 2050 ? ) Scientifical i.e. Sociological / Economical / Psychological / ???

" Pure Republicanism " - a " radical " ( = " back to roots " ) position : politics is not about power but facts and arguments.

" Nomos " - the diminutive god of the law courts in Ancient Athens to which oaths etc were sworn - " Socrates' daemon."

" Nomostic " - believing The Cosmos to be governed by The Natural Law which breaks human laws which deviate from it.

" Nomocracy " = " The Power of The Law " i.e. The Law rules The State and both promotes Altruism and deters Ultraism.

" Altruism V Ultraism " = " Other-ism V Beyond-ism " = " Within the Boundary V Beyond the Boundary " of The Rule of Law.

" The Rule of Law V Sovereignty " = " Nobody can be placed outside The Law V God and I can break any laws we want to ! "

" Private Interests V The Public Interest " = " Consenting relationships V intervention in non-consenting relationships."

" The Law " = A description of non-consenting relationships and the interventions which are permitted to restore consent.

" The State " = The Property of The People - not vice versa ! The interventions made to promote Nomocracy e.g. education.

" Democratic Republicanism " - akin to The United States of America : Democracy predominates over Republicanism.

" Republican Democracy " - akin to The Republic of France : Republicanism predominates over Democracy.

" Republicanism V Democracy " - a very old debate : Renaissance Republicans detested Democrats as " Mob o'Crats."

" The Shotgun Marriage " - in the 18c a new political idea emerged : Republicanism V Democracy = " Balances V Checks."

" The Rota " - Medieval Papal court for international peace : where Republicanism was born - " The Wheel of The World."

" Monocratic Republicanism " - Republicanism was used in The Reformation to justify kings not being subject to The Rota.

" Aristocratic Republicanism " - " The United Kingdom " - 17c civil wars broke Monocracies and resulted in The UK of 1688.

" Democratic Republicanism " - " The United States of America " defended the existing political convention : Republican.

" Hierocratic Republicanism " - " The French Revolution " was hi-jacked by a secular priesthood who sacrificed opponents.

David B. Lawrence,
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