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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sagan meta-ideologicalising = https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EWPFmdAWRZ0 = https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cSrL0BXsO40 = https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N58QD_ySsws
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ought to get back to thoughts in depth on this but note that rather more prominent and popular people are now denouncing The UK -

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ervngZh-Yw - click to 08.00+ onwards

The Public Intellectual in Classical Athens and Today at The Royal Society in London
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clearly lost in deep ruminative contemplation of the problems presented by " Plaid Y Repwblic " ...

There once was an Englishman & also a Scotsman_& besides these two there was also an Irishman_But unfortunately there has been a complaint :_That my exclusive humour now applies a taint_To all of those Transgendered Lesbian Feminist Republican Separatists who do not wish to be identified as a " Welshman."

There once was an Englishman & also a Scottishman_
& besides these two there was also an Irishman_
But unfortunately there has been a complaint :_
That my exclusive humour now applies a taint_
To all of those Transgendered Lesbian Feminist Republican Separatists who do not wish to be identified as a " Welshman."

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NOW ... The Labour Party grew out of The Trade Union Congress which was created by The National Republican League which emerged from The Reds or " Left " within The Chartists ... The Cooperative Party grew out of The Cooperative Union which was created by The National Republican Brotherhood which emerged from The ( Sky ) Blues or " Right " within The Chartists ... Both The NRL and The NRB pivoted around what happened in Birmingham ... and The Suffragists were so called because they rejected the use of the term " The Charter " because they knew that it referred to " La Charte " and thus the 1830 ( second ) French Revolution i.e. they rejected the insurrectionists on both The Left and The Right but mixed The Red with The Blue to recreate - The Purple Politics of Pure Republicanism - i.e. The Suffragists insisted that politics consisted solely of facts and arguments - and their legacy is arguably The Law Society, Legal Aid, Prison Reform and ... everybody getting the vote at the age of eighteen - because unlike The Reds and The ( Sky ) Blues ... The Purples always supported Universal Suffrage ... but ... one group within Purple turned Violet i.e. they invoked the memory of " Corporal Violet " and paraded with a " Napoleonic " Tricolour of " Green - White - Violet " - " Give - Women - Votes ! " - The Suffragettes ... descendants of The Suffragists : all of these groups used " ( their own Colour ) + White + Green " usually as tribands ... where did the triband arrangement come from ? ... Well it is more convenient for writing a word - like " CYFIAWNDER " - or inserting a symbol to have this middle band e.g. Hugh William's flag as carried by the three bands of Chartists to whom he gave them to in 1838 each had ... well it is variously described but it seems that these flags were derived from the " Sol de Mayo " flag of Argentina - hence " The ( Sky ) Blue " ? ... A warning : the following is but a possible interpretation of a flag whose origins probably lie in the colours of Iolo Morganwg's Gorsedd of the Bards ( Green, White, Sky Blue and Purple ) and began exclusively as the Welsh Chartist flag but was later widely copied in several variations by " True Blue " Conservative Republicans who were sticking to their principles ...



... Three hundred years after " Honest John Lilburne " and The Levellers - who were the first to demand " Give Women Votes " and whose political colour was ( Sea ) Green representing Jesus Christ, The Common People, The Resurrection, Revolution, Democracy etc - those frightened of soldiers returning from World War Two ready to deal with tyranny in Britain as well as in Europe - finally conceded to the idea of Democracy and so Universal and Equal Suffrage was finally obtained in Wales in 1949 ... which in our case was a mere 545 years after The People in Wales had previously all had a vote of sorts ... 665 since The Rule of Law was absolutely ended in Wales ... 881 since Wales was first invaded by The Norman French ... 1059 since The People in Wales were reunited into one polity by The Rule of Law ... 1175 since The People in Wales rallied to establish a stable frontier ... 1334 years after The People in Wales were severed from the remnants of The People in Britannia who all gradually ceased to be " Brythonaeg " as they were conquered and their various identities erased from existence - except this last stubborn remnant which over a thousand years after the catastrophe which had overwhelmed their ancestors ... started to refer to themselves as " Y Cymry " ... " The Com-* " - who have been consistently described by their closest neighbours as being habitually and belligerently argumentative : a nation of poets, priests and politicians ... excepting The Democrats ...

... The People in Wales and The World are feeling as unrepresented and excluded as The Suffragettes used to ... still feel ?

*usually translated as " Compatriots " but there are other explanations - http://llennatur.com/files/u1/on__Place-names_ThosMorgan_Pr_HWSouthey_1887.pdf

https://womanandhersphere.com/2014/11/26/suffrage-stories-an-army-of-banners-designed-for-the-nuwss-suffrage-procession-13-june-1908/



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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-38554298

Labour support in Wales reaches new lows, poll suggests

Labour support in Wales has reached new lows, an opinion poll has suggested. ... A poll by YouGov for ITV Wales and Cardiff University suggests 31% of people would vote for Labour in assembly constituency elections, down three points from September. ... That is the lowest rating since YouGov's first Welsh poll in July 2009. ... There was also a dip in support for Labour when respondents were asked how they would vote in a Westminster election, with Labour support falling by two points to 33%. ... This is the lowest point in any Welsh poll on Westminster voting intention since a YouGov poll in April 2010, according to Prof Roger Scully. ... "The saving grace for Welsh Labour continues to be the lack of a single strong opponent," said Prof Scully of Cardiff University. ... "While Labour's performance in our new poll is weak, none of their opponents are exactly achieving glittering ratings either," he said. ... A Welsh Labour spokeswoman said: "It's heartening that despite the turbulent political year we have faced, Welsh Labour and Carwyn Jones remain the most trusted by the people of Wales. ... "We take nothing for granted and as we look ahead to the elections in May and the challenges beyond, Welsh Labour will continue to deliver for people right across Wales." ...

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Now unfortunately - as The Cassandra in Cardiff - I have an uncanny instinct for predicting things by the well tried oracular method of simply of stating the obvious : I have believed that The Labour & Cooperative Party are about to collapse in Wales for - iw ... thirty years at least ... but look : The People in Wales do not want either The Labour & Cooperative Party or The Conservative & Unionist Party because these are The Democrats in Westminster who have been grinding their faces into the ground for over forty years ... But that does not mean that The People in Wales like the other alternatives on offer any better - not even UKIP - because what none of The Democrats in Wales seem to grasp is what Tolstoy remarked :

" I sit on a man's back, choking him, and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by any means possible, except getting off his back."

Leo Tolstoy - Writings on Civil Disobedience and Nonviolence (1886)

Hell ... let's have a quote fest - https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Leo_Tolstoy

... Oh - no : you enjoy one - I need to go to bed ... just one remark about why now - if properly explained - The People in Wales will be receptive to The Republicans in Wales ... they really do not like political extremists - especially those who have been taking it in turns to stand with their boots on their necks : each UK general election since 1972 has resulted in increasingly wild swings from " The Left " to " The Right " and - roughly speaking - The People in Wales and in England and in Scotland and in Northern Ireland experience no particular comfort in knowing that they are being forced to lie down and take it - blow after blow : first from The Right Blue Fist of The United Kingdom and then from The Red Left Fist of The United Kingdom ... They want a referee to step into The Ring - they want to at least be allowed to have a fair fight - they want somebody to throw in The White Towel of The United Republic : they want The Marquis of Queensberry Rules ... The People in Wales want their teeth back ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquess_of_Queensberry_Rules ... not written by that Scotsman ...

... but actually by this Welshman - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Graham_Chambers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quiet_Man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bm0RIs-VJU - The Quiet Man Fight - see 03.00+

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Douglas,_9th_Marquess_of_Queensberry

In 1872, Queensberry was chosen by the Peers of Scotland to sit in the House of Lords as a representative peer. He served as such until 1880, when he was again nominated but refused to take the religious oath of allegiance to the Sovereign. Viewed by some as an outspoken atheist, he declared that he would not participate in any "Christian tomfoolery" and that his word should suffice. As a consequence neither he nor Charles Bradlaugh, who had also refused to take the oath after being elected to the House of Commons, were allowed to take their seats in parliament. ... Under the auspices of the British Secular Union, Queensberry wrote a pamphlet entitled The Religion of Secularism and the Perfectibility of Man. The Union, always small, ceased to function in 1884. ...

I do not know much about Queensberry but I want to point out that in the above Wikipedia article he is described as being associated with Bradlaugh and the British Secular Union and British Secular Society : these were no more fronts for Republicanism then than the Peace Pledge Union or the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament are now - these sentiments tend to go together - but this locates Queensberry in Republican circles whatever his social class or actual political views were.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bradlaugh

Charles Bradlaugh ( 26 September 1833 – 30 January 1891 ) was an English political activist, atheist and British republican. He founded the National Secular Society in 1866. ... In 1880, Bradlaugh was elected as the Liberal MP for Northampton. His attempt to affirm as an atheist, rather than take a parliamentary Oath of Allegiance which assumed a new MP was a Christian ( and a Monarchist,) ultimately led to his temporary imprisonment, fines for voting in the Commons illegally, and a number of by-elections at which Bradlaugh regained his seat on each occasion. He was finally allowed to take an oath in 1886. Eventually, a parliamentary bill which he proposed became law in 1888 which allowed members of both Houses of Parliament to affirm, if they so wished, when being sworn in. The new law also resolved the issue for witnesses in civil and criminal court cases.

[ THEREFORE YOU WILL NOTE HOW AND WHY THE WESTERN MAIL WAS TELLING LIES ABOUT YR ARDYSTIAD IN 2012 : REPUBLICANS GENERALLY OBJECT TO OATHS BECAUSE WE PROMOTE RATIONAL AND REASONABLE BEHAVIOUR AND OBJECT TO SUPERSTITION - WHICH IS NOT THE SAME THING AS RELIGION WHICH OUGHT TO BE CONDUCTED ON THIS BASIS.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypatia_Bradlaugh_Bonner

She was born Hypatia Bradlaugh, at 3 Hedger's Terrace, Hackney, London, the second daughter of Charles Bradlaugh, the first openly atheist Member of Parliament and founder of the National Secular Society, and Susannah Lamb Hooper. She was named after Hypatia, the Ancient Greek pagan philosopher, mathematician, astronomer and teacher, who was murdered by a mob of Coptic monks under the authority of Christian archbishop Cyril of Alexandria. ... She taught in the Hall of Science for the South Kensington Science and Art Examinations, and also acted as a secretary for her father after 1888 ... and other teachers included her sister Alice Bradlaugh (1856–1888) and Annie Besant ... In 1910, Bonner became the chairperson of the first secular peace society, the Rationalist Peace Society. The aim of the society was to "protest against ideas and methods which are utterly opposed to reason and the interests of social progress" ...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b087qjd4 - " The Human Hive "

The honey bee. Superficially they are aliens; 6 legs, antennae, mandibles, compound eyes - there isn't much to relate to. But like the other social insects if you take the time to look into the honey bee's world, we've more in common than first appears. Step inside the Human Hive with evolutionary biologist - Dr Ben Garrod.

http://repwblic.informe.com/the-ants-and-mac-richard-flecknoe-dt1347.html

Somewhere else on the board I am talking about " The Hive " which was a typical 18c & 19c Republican symbol of " The People's i.e Workers' Republic " ( = " Poblachiaeth " ) which became associated in particular with The Co-operative Party etc ( i.e. before c1959 it is was reduced to a corpse propped up as a dummy in The Labour Party's front window.) The idea of The Workers in Wales being bees who work hard building a collective home in The Hive where their wives convert what they bring home into honey with which to feed their offspring and share with their neighbours whilst elderly and adolescent bees all have their useful roles and are found a place and provided for was a commonplace idea shared within 19c European Republican culture ... One reason why this wss popular in 19c Wales was because there were all sorts of popular lectures in places like " The Mechanics' Institutes " on subjects like Evolution - and of course Wallace was widely regarded as the co-founder of The Theory of Evolution - and Scientific lectures were often directed towards familiar subjects so that they had a practical use for the audience ... Lots of The People in Wales kept bees because poor mountain soils often produced heather rather than grass and those who were crammed into the new mining villages typically had no land suitable to cultivate for food but could keep a bee hive in the back yard.

The Modern Republicans in Wales tend to prefer to forget " The Hive " because those 19c Victorian Republicans celebrated the scientific discovery that bees were not as Cooperative as those 18c Georgian Republicans imagined : The Hive was portrayed as being ruled by a benevolent Queen Bee - hence the accession to the throne of Queen Victoria and her marriage to Prince Albert excited a lot of hopes for political reform in the 1830s ... It was the anger resulting towards The Aristocracy for steadfastedly obstructing Queen Victoria and Prince Albert's modestly expressed hopes for a more liberal society which drove many to consider " Physical Force " and a few to abandon " Moral Force " after the refusal of the greatly watered down version of Republicanism which we refer to as Chartism ... Eventually the idea that " Republicanism is Against Our Lovely Royal Family " became so firmly planted into the heads of The People in Wales all of the evidence to the contrary was simply refused : anti-Republican propaganda took every sort of incident - none in Wales - to weave together a story of The Republicans in Wales subscribing to a politics of hatred and wanting to participate in criminal conspiracies to perpetrate acts of violence ...

... Although The People in Wales have very nearly lost all understanding of their nation's political history - and The Political Ilteracy in Wales created by deliberate miseducation to create subjects not citizens is truly astounding - Republicanism is perhaps less of a philosophical tradition than a natural disposition : The People in Wales and The World actually enjoy doing good because it makes them feel good - so they do not feel the need to use the word " Republican " of themselves - they might prefer to describe themselves as " Religious " rather than " Political " or talk of being " Philosophical " or simply say " I know what is right ! " ... It does not really matter - except to point out that if you do not know that " Republicanism " is a huge body of literature which sort of rambles for thousands of years over all sorts of subjects relevant to. ... well - " Life " ... then you are basically throwing away the opportunity to enjoy, to learn, to be entertained by - " Life " ... on the other hand you can take the same attitude that I do to sport : I was not a stranger to the rugby field ... but I was not fast enough to be on the wing and not heavy enough to be in the scrum, not laid-back enough to be in the centre and I couldn't jump high enough to be the loose prop - so I was volunteered to be the ref and ... well ... the point is that if you do not enjoy something then you just do not do it - but if you do enjoy being the ref then naturally you are not going to be able to pass by any game being played badly without reaching for your whistle ... in Wales we will need a lot more whistle-blowers but first of all we will need an agreed set of rules ...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The " Nomocracy V Democracy " or " Republican V Democrat " arguments which I think are so relevant to " The Disaster in Devolution " are adapted from very popular arguments going on in The USA - note the sentiments in this song ... and the kinds of people singing it : these are representatives of " The White Faction " amongst " The Republicans in America " - and they have the same sorts of problem with " The Paper Constitution " in " The United States of America " as we have with " The Paperless Constituition " in " The United Kingdom " i.e. that neither they nor we are deceived into believing that constitutions - whether written or unwritten - are anything but pieces of paper : we reject the idea that " The UK " or " The USA " or any other piece of paper is a person. The Rule of Law pertains only to persons who can sue or be sued because laws are created to regulate the social relationships between persons e.g. we make laws to protect babies and whales and environments because they can not speak for themselves yet can be subjected to injury and death. ...

... Ideas can not suffer injury or death : all things not persons are not subject to The Rule of Law e.g. a person can not have their ideology protected by law because criticism of it does not harm that ideology even if that criticism upsets the person who uses that ideology to make sense of their lives. On the other hand the person themselves ( but not their ideology ) is protected by The Rule of Law i.e. in the proper Republican definition of it - not A V Dicey's corrupted bungled debased version of it made up as he went along trying to weld The Rule of Law together with The Paperless Constitution of The United Kingdom ... So let me make the meaning of The Rule of Law - at least as I use the term - clear : it means that you can not have Sovereignty ... Although The Rule of Law does not exclude all arbitrary behaviour it does mean that all social relationships which become non-consenting and are therefore made subject to The Rule of Law ( by creating laws which define how The State will be used to intercede in them to restore the consent within them or otherwise end their non-consenting nature ) are by definition arbitrary i.e. either one or more persons involved in such relationships are using coercion. ...

... The existence of The State is justified by virtue of it being our collectively created means to end coercive relationships e.g. to defend our society from internal and external aggressors who would use violence to coerce our relationships with them. It is paradoxical for The State to be licenced to commit the very same acts of coercion upon The People which it was supposedly created and is maintained by The People to resist on their ehalf. When this is happening then " Sovereignty " is present whether it is stated to be so or not e.g. The People in America successfully got rid of " Sovereignty " after a long and bitter war - only to be told afterwards that somehow mysteriously they themselves had not only acquired " The Sovereignty of The People " but had promptly volunteered to give this away to The Aristocracy in The Congress ... " I never ever saw this " Sovereignty " - where is it ? " -demanded Yankee-Doodle-Dandy - " Here : in this rope around your throat - for us to hang you from The Liberty Tree ! "

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t_sK6cI3RcI
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst dancing in The British Masque_Reciting their script is their sole task_Their costumes are made to deafen them to each and every word_Which is ever given them - however mindless or absurd -_And they positively refuse to hear any questions which their audience ask. = dai repwblic = David B Lawrence

Whilst dancing in The British Masque_
Reciting their script is their sole task_
Their costumes are made to deafen them to each and every word_
Which is ever given them - however mindless or absurd -_
And they positively refuse to hear any questions which their audience ask.

= dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right : not to sue for copyright !
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am listening to this whilst wondering what to do ... There are chilling parallels to what has been going on in Wales and Turkey this past forty years : one of the speakers was describing the false consensus within Turkey with a fearful mutual silence and pretended political consensus which is presented as tolerance whereas in fact journalists are jailed and political critics murdered ... Thank the god that I do not believe in but have faith in that Wales has not progressed so far in that direction - yet ... but already we have what amounts to an anti-political situation where a false consensus is being presented as consisting of non-politicians being elected to be employed to vigorously denounce anyone who questions anything : this situation arose in the 1970s in the backlash against the 1960s - and it is what was bewildering young politicos in all political parties in Wales in the 1980s ... Now that we are in our fifties and sixties we can look back and in understanding what the Democratic parties' managers were doing to us as teenagers we ought to have the courage to speak out and restore The Public Discourse : our nation - all nations within Britain - are sitting upon an explosive keg of emotions ... and the fuse which has smouldered since the miners' strike has now burned down very short : both " The Left " and " The Right " - politicos of all colours - should be uniting together in Republicanism - lest we find our society's political colours suddenly all turned to Black.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08bynyy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you know - I am not so really sure_That I put them down here and so I abjure_All those nasty claims that I am going nuts_Or that The Fairies took them - or that The World is in flux :_I will just pray for my specs - to The Goddess Dementia ... dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence [ moral right ]

Do you know - I am not so really sure_
That I put them down here and so I abjure_
All those nasty claims that I am going nuts_
Or that The Fairies took them - or that The World is in flux :_
I will just pray for my specs - to The Goddess Dementia ...
dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence [ moral right ]

[ I am playing pwnco - or trying to - with my friends : a creative game in which poems are lobbed back and forth for amusement's sake, ideally topical and quickly made up - it is the poetic equivalent of recreations like doing crosswords or sodoku : search " pwnco / pwncio " on the borad to see a few other examples : I got a nice reply from Y and asked whether I could publish it - she is rather dismissive of my arguments : ]

[ dai ] Yours ? I slapped mine into the Plaid Repwblic thread to provide it with light relief - may I publish your reply ? Prometheus was a Republican motif in the 18c

[ Y sends torrents of mystical poems to me in poetic revenge for my offerings in doggerel - however I did not get a positive permission ... ]

" dai repwblic " has won The World's renown_As The Joker in Wales' pack - The Clown_Who makes a public spectacle of himself -_Whilst The Book he is writing lies on off shelf -_To focus The Light upon The Seed which was sown.

" dai repwblic " has won The World's renown_
As The Joker in Wales' pack - The Clown_
Who makes a public spectacle of himself -_
Whilst The Book he is writing lies on off the shelf -_
To focus The Light upon The Seed which was sown.

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author assert his moral right - not to sue for copyright !

[ More mystically mumbled responses - quite beautiful sentiments actually ]

I very much like the Sekhamet poem to Francesca* : do I take it that you are ok that I publish the Prometheus poem ? What are you doing this weekend ? [ *Y wrote it as a contribution to Francesca's funeral ]

[ A text from Y ] Can't remember if I sent this before, but given your dementia, neither will you ;-)

To Prometheus

Hail far seeing Titan, friend to mankind
Bringer of many gifts, with benignant mind,
Giver of fire and teacher of skills
Saviour of humankind, protector from ills.
Son of Iapetus and Themis wise
Who taught the portion of sacrifice
Thyself sacrificed to aid mankind
Prometheus I call, many skilled, kind
Who in Thy workshop fashioned Alethia
Let truth guide us, Oh wise seer.
Fashioner of men and beasts from the sacred soil
Clay mixed with tears, a token of our toil
Aepymetes, lofty-minded Titan Great
Who gives the power to see our fate
Who shows the paths to freedom and slavery
Guide Thy mystics on the path of the free
The path that begins rough and steep
But ends with repose and understanding deep.
Oh Wise Prometheus, kindle the fire of my soul
And aid Thy mystic on the path to be whole.

© Y [ who has not given me permission to identify her ] = Ariadni*

[ I know that Y publishes a lot of her material on-line and she will be making the same assertions about moral right and copyright but I have not identified Y here because she does not identify as herself as " republican " although we share similar sensibilities ... well ... sort of ... so please do not copy this Prometheus poem unless she puts her name to it as the author.]

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*Post Script : text from Y [ * her surname removed ]

" Looking at publishing all my poems in a book eventually. Also have poems of mine included in two forthcoming anthologies - one to Hestia and one to Apollon. My pen name is Ariadni #####*, so would prefer that you labelled poems as authored by Ariadni."


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

" [ - ] " - is what I put as part of the title of this thread - " [ EVERYTHING -IN - BETWEEN - THE - LEFT - AND - THE - RIGHT ] " - because Republican politics has to aim at the ending of al so called moderate politicaln systems which excludes those political conversations which these self-proclaimed moderates exclude : it is the only the dialectical - or rather is it the multi-lectical - conversation which moderates by its inclusiveness of conflicting spuriously plausible arguments which are then exposed by the debate as being flawed ... but useful - like Marxism ... it is not that such arguments provide the answers but that they contain the questions which can lead us to discover new answers.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IyrhoHtSkzg
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qh7rdCYCQ_U

One of Molyneux's rants and rather long but it is nteresting in terms of what Classical i.e. Roman Republican politics was like ( which was a Real / Realist political system complete with all of its faults not the Idealist projected political systems of the diverse Republicanisms we know today which take their name from Cicero's book " De Re Publica.")
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

( The one which I wrote after seeing a Samaritans' sign posted on that high bridge.) Despairing ? Suicidal ? Call The Democrats_( You have our number ) for someone who chats_Non-stop about why you should admire the way_In which they spend your money - HEY !!!_DON'T JUMP !!! - YOU HAVEN'T PAID YOUR TAX !!!

( The one which I wrote after seeing a Samaritans' sign posted on that high bridge.)

Despairing ? Suicidal ? Call The Democrats_
( You have our number ) for someone who chats_
Non-stop about why you should admire the way_
In which they spend your money - HEY - HEY !!!_
DON'T JUMP !!! - YOU HAVEN'T PAID YOUR TAX !!!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quentin Skinner's lectures are really useful but equally awkward often : this one deals with the dispute between Republicans and Liberals as to the nature of " Liberty " - my take on this is brushed up against by Quentin Skinner in that he mentions the definition of " Enslaved " and " Liberated " in Roman Law but he fails to discuss the positive act of " Manumission " which reveals " Freedom " to be the result of a charitable act : the whole point of " The Rule of Law " is that its object is charitable - we create laws primarily to advise those eager to know how to behave well - not to punish those who are not interested in behaving well and therefore not interested in the object of " The Rule of Law " which is giving to others the Liberty which we desire for ourselves : by definition criminals are those who want to exercise their own willfulness and act without the consent of others and therefore to enslave them ... These criminals will of course claim to be acting in The Public Interest and protest that they are our elected representatives - The Democrats in Wales and The World.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YX47aTObiw0

Quentin Skinner : On The Liberty of Republics

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvy86eVwva0

Freedom with Philip Pettit - Conversations with History
University of California Television
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2017 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5237#5237

I am commenting here about the fact that " the second largest party " in the 2017 local authority elections were in fact " Independents " which is in other words people operating as I advocate above - in microparties : closely responding to their local communities ... the fact is that what drives many Independants is their concern for The Public Interest : they ought to at least go read some proper Republican stuff ... really Republicanisms are the only valid political theories which exist ... try -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6iScCpqQ9Q

Towards A Real Republic: Fintan O'Toole

Published on 22 Dec 2012 - A good summary of his two books, 'Ship of Fools' and 'Enough is Enough' his talk here takes us back to the basics of what a democratic republic is and how we might go about building one. Importantly, he also puts the whole notion of 'austerity' now being shamefully deployed by the spin doctors of our corporate masters into its original context.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

write it - abuse it ...

From: David B Lawrence
Sent: 31 July 2017 21:55
To:
Cc:
Subject: notes upon The Temple of Peace & The UNA etc

Dear ~~~~

you will find this email CC'd to #### who has been very involved with The UNA.

I believe that Robin will be happy to advise you about forthcoming UNA public and committee meetings and how to get involved.

The UNA usually has its public meetings in the large committee room / library of The Temple of Health and Peace, Cathays Park.

I hesitate to recount what I said before : The Temple of Peace is the result of David Davies' enthusiasm for The League of Nations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Peace_and_Health

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Davies,_1st_Baron_Davies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Commonwealth_Society - " Commonwealth " is an old word for " Republic " but this was not !

In a speech to the New Commonwealth Society in May 1937, Churchill said - " We are one of the few peace societies that advocates the use of force, if possible overwhelming force, to support public international law." ... [ SO NOT REALLY VERY PEACEFUL THEN ! ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations_Union // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations_Union#Peace_Ballot

... The LNU became the largest and most influential organisation in the British peace movement. By the mid-1920s, it had over a quarter of a million registered subscribers and its membership eventually peaked at around 407,775 in 1931 ...

... One example of the significance of the political impact the LNU could have was its organisation of the Peace Ballot of 1935, when voters were asked to decide on questions relating to international disarmament and collective security. The Peace Ballot was not an official referendum but more than eleven million people participated in it, representing strong support for the aims and objectives of the League of Nations, influencing policy makers and politicians. The results of the Peace Ballot were publicized worldwide ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations

... It was the first international organisation whose principal mission was to maintain world peace. Its primary goals, as stated in its Covenant, included preventing wars through collective security and disarmament and settling international disputes through negotiation and arbitration. Other issues in this and related treaties included labour conditions, just treatment of native inhabitants, human and drug trafficking, the arms trade, global health, prisoners of war, and protection of minorities in Europe. At its greatest extent from 28 September 1934 to 23 February 1935, it had 58 members. ...

... Robert Cecil, addressing the final session, said - " Let us boldly state that aggression wherever it occurs and however it may be defended, is an international crime, that it is the duty of every peace-loving state to resent it and employ whatever force is necessary to crush it, that the machinery of the Charter, no less than the machinery of the Covenant, is sufficient for this purpose if properly used, and that every well-disposed citizen of every state should be ready to undergo any sacrifice in order to maintain peace ... I venture to impress upon my hearers that the great work of peace is resting not only on the narrow interests of our own nations, but even more on those great principles of right and wrong which nations, like individuals, depend. The League is dead. Long live the United Nations ! "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Association_–_UK

UNA-UK has a very active youth and student programme. The UNA Youth, formerly known as United Nations Youth & Student Association (UNYSA), is a network of almost 50 university and college groups as well as individual members across the UK who exchange ideas and organise events to promote the work of the UN among young people. Branches coordinate most of UNA Youth's activities organising events such as workshops, panel discussions, conferences and Model United Nations that give attendees and participants a real insight into the work of the United Nations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Association_Wales

The United Nations Association Wales (UNA Wales) (Welsh: Cymdeithas y Cenhedloedd Unedig Cymru) is an organisation campaigning in Wales to make the ideals of the United Nations a reality. It campaigns, lobbies and raises awareness on issues of disarmament, conflict prevention, sustainable development and human rights. It aims to promote informed debate on international issues, including the UN system itself.

UNA Wales is based at the Temple of Peace, Cardiff and is affiliated with the Welsh Centre for International Affairs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Centre_for_International_Affairs

The Welsh Centre for International Affairs (WCIA) is Wales's national forum for the exchange of ideas on international issues and is based at the Temple of Peace, Cardiff.

http://www.wcia.org.uk/cewc/index.html

CEWC is the schools arm of the Welsh Centre for International Affairs.
As well as organising a programme of educational events for learners, we provide training and resources for teachers and specialise in the Philosophy for Children method. To achieve our goals, we work in partnership with many schools, local education authorities and other organisations around Wales. If your school wants to work more closely with CEWC, take a look at the section on membership.

http://www.unaexchange.org

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Volunteer with UNA Exchange. Experience the world.
Pick one of our community projects almost anywhere in the world, including at home here in Wales.
We don’t do it for the money. We do it to help young people become globally responsible citizens. Something we’ve been doing for more than 40 years.

I hope that these links were of interest.

Regards,

David B. Lawrence,
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saeed - I surely owe you a proem :_My thanks but I want you to show'em_That this bottomless hole_Where we live on the dole_Is no place for The City to throw'em.

Saeed - I surely owe you a proem :_
My thanks but I want you to show'em_
That this bottomless hole_
Where we live on the dole_
Is no place for The City to throw'em.

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !

Saeed has recently been elected councilor and I am finding him easier to work with - but perhaps he is a little freaked out by the complexity of the situation and dealing with the beleagured Pure Republican at the centre of it.

I also sent Saeed this - on a roll perhaps this morning ?

[ I SEE RELIGION AS A NECCESSARY ACTIVITY ] Jews view others as the work of God not sin_Christians examine others for that of God within_Muslims look for signs of God in the lives of others_Sikhs search for God in families - in fathers and in mothers_Ba'hais find God in others too - for everyone is kin.


[ I SEE RELIGION AS A NECCESSARY ACTIVITY ]

Jews view others as the work of God not sin_
Christians examine others for that of God within_
Muslims look for signs of God in the lives of others_
Sikhs search for God in families - in fathers and in mothers_
Ba'hais find God in others too - for everyone is kin.

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both / Marx and Engels each got on / once took their trains_And met / To meet in the middle to discuss society's / all of their pains_Whilst taking a ramble from a small country station_During which they got lost to their consternation_To Engels - at a crossroads - Marx (then) declared " We have nothing to choose but four lanes."

Marx and Engels once agreed to go and get on trains -_
Hence meeting in the middle to discuss society's pains :_
They planned to take a ramble from a smaller country station_
Then found that they had lost their way but - to Engel's consternation -_
At a crossroads Marx declared " We have nothing to choose but four lanes."

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !

Apparently that needs to be explained to some people : it is a pun on " We have nothing to lose but our chains " which ... er ... is a sort of quotation from Rousseau's ' The Social Contract ' which was the origin of the Socialist idea -

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers_of_the_world,_unite!

"Workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto

Furthermore the idea of " to go and get on trains " is because The Communist Manifesto was published in 1848 a year and decade of both political and industrial revolutions as the railways rapidly expanded : Marx lived in London and Engels in Manchester and trains were both a technological novelty but also a Capitalist disaster which inspired Marx to predict that Capitalism would proceed from crisis to crisis until it collapsed in its own contradictions as many railway share speculations had ... perhaps the first line might be bettered as -

" Marx and Engels once agreed to go by separate trains "

- because that suggests their divergence of - " trains of thought " ?



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I often suspect that the kinds of timid bookish people who adore Republicanism in Wales are put off identifying themselves are sharing this politics by the suspicion if not downright hostility with which Republicans in Wales are treated. I took some copies on " New Republic " with me to the doctors to pass the time in the waiting room along with " IDEOLOGY - a very short introduction " by Michael Freeden - which is the kind of sceptical approach to political ideologies that I advocate - and showed them to my doctor by the way of socialising a bit. Her reaction was rather cool : she distrusts ideologies religious and political and perceives an interest in obscure ideas as evidence of psychological illness ... as do I actually - but I find other people's ideologies entertaining not threatening. I am dealing with my new councillor over some difficult issues and he is neither familiar with me nor with the peculiar problems and history of this part of his ward so I thought that I might proselytise The Good Old Cause to him a bit too.

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POST SCRIPT : you can buy a copy of Michael Freeden's book " IDEOLOGY - a very short introduction " for as little as £2.83 on Amazon.co.uk at the moment -

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ideology-Very-Short-Introduction-Introductions/dp/019280281X/ref=sr

- and read online articles from " New Republic " here - https://newrepublic.com/magazine

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From: David B Lawrence
Sent: 03 August 2017 13:19
To:
Subject: Dear Cllr ####, you might be entertained by reading this : a doctor thinks that my religious and political convictions might be psychoses ? FW: A LETTER FOR MY DOCTORS - LEST THEY THINK THAT MY POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS CONVICTIONS ARE OTHER THAN ECCENTRIC

Dear Cllr ####

you might be entertained by reading this : a doctor thinks that my religious and political convictions might be psychoses ?

David B. Lawrence,


From: David B Lawrence
Sent: 03 August 2017 13:13
To:
Subject: A LETTER FOR MY DOCTORS - LEST THEY THINK THAT MY POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS CONVICTIONS ARE OTHER THAN ECCENTRIC

Dear Dr

( Please note the length of the sentences in this letter : I may well be " hyperthymic " - so you need not choose to read this ! )

I left my interview with you this morning under the impression that in producing those copies of New Republic which I had brought with me to try and catch up on them whilst in the waiting room - the articles can be lengthy and dense : their journalism is akin to that in a British broadsheet weekend paper like The Observer - by chance the top copy was the June 2017 issue coloured red with a black fist on it with the slogan " PERSIST " which in British eyes might look as if it is some Trotskyite rag. I decided to treat myself to paper copies of this magazine to watch what is going on with Donald Trump being elected President of The USA on the Republican ticket. In terms of American politics it may seem odd that one of the leading magazines on the Democratic ticket which strongly supported Hilary Clinton is entitled " New Republic " but this is to do with the transatlantic political movements labeled " Progressive " which were a feature of the 1920s and 1930s of which on the British scene there are few survivals save the persisting idea of an " Open " ideal in which the distribution of information and of striving to underpin political discourse by creating a more educated populace is sought : hence " The Open University " etc. I am a fan of " The Open Conspiracy " which was written by H G Wells and other allied projects which have their origins ultimately in " The Republic of Letters " and " The Invisible College " and Diderot's L'Encyclopédie ...

... So you will understand that I enjoy obscure eccentric stuff : for me it is disgraceful that Republicanism has become tarred and feathered as supposedly a doctrine of criminality when in fact it is all about The Rule of Law. Ironically " The United Kingdom " is technically a Republican political system ( A " Commonwealth " ) but ever since it became so in the 16c its original conception has been knocked about a lot. In the 18c there were still many who were proud to declare themselves " Republican " especially after the radical Corsican Revolution re-established Democracy but when the same idea arose in opposition to The United Kingdom in the conservative American Revolution which politically opposed what was happening in The British Parliament as it began to depart from political precepts taken to be established in The British Empire - and then when at first peaceable French Revolution turned against The French King and The British Empire went to war against The French Empire - the supporters of The United Kingdom began to denounce Republicans as being against The Rule of Law and as being supporters of dangerous Democracy. In fact it is Republicanism which advocates The Rule of Law and holds Democracy to be dangerous without a strong Constitution ...

... It was The Devolution in Wales which first began to stir me up ideologically to complain about the lack of a proper Constitution in Wales and then in 2002 when there was finally no legal remedy for what Cardiff City County Council were doing here in North Butetown I went to one of those typical Leftie meetings which my friend Dafydd and I like to frequent to ask awkward questions and in this " Stuff The Monarchy " weekend organised by " Cymru Goch " what we heard was " I am a Republican because I hate The Queen / The English / The Immigrants etc " We were about to give up without even bothering to ask any awkward questions when an elderly speaker took the platform and actually talked about Real Republicanism and so I wanted to ask questions of him. He in turn asked me some very awkward questions of me and put me on the spot : if I believed in Republicanism why was I not advocating it publicly - " Put up - or shut up." I went home to write a pamphlet criticising what we had heard being advocated as " Republicanism " and in casting around for a title for this ( not very good ) leaflet I chose " REPWBLIC " because this Welsh word is easily recognised as the equivalent of " REPUBLIC " which is being used by a lame non-Republican anti-Monarchist organisation which I am critical of for not knowing what Republicanism is : definitely not the politics of hate - for me it is " The Politics of Love."

The rest is history ... sort of ... and on this interesting odyssey which resulted in the disorganisation of repwblic.informe.com I have encountered many strange mad people who think that Republicanism is whatever they want it to be - it is not : it is a vast sprawling literature of political ideas which is endlessly entertaining and which ought to be part of our public political discourse- and so in my own modest clumsy way I am trying to redeem it for that purpose by reducing it to some very simple maxims ... One of these is that nobody is persuaded to agree with a political argument by punching them in the face - but joking with them helps.

Whilst I was waiting for my prescription in the pharmacy I sketched one of my " proems " in my phone and finished it once home : I usually tag these " dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright ! "

Marx and Engels once agreed to go and get on trains -_
Hence meeting in the middle to discuss society's pains :_
They planned to take a ramble from a smaller country station_
Then found that they had lost their way but - to Engel's consternation -_
At a crossroads Marx declared " We have nothing to choose but four lanes."

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts very little ...

So please note : Cyclothymia is neurological not psychological and my political and religious convictions are not mad, bad or sad.

I may be considered eccentric perhaps in the context of Butetown - but everything I deal in is taught in The University of Wales.

Even doggerel.

Yours Sincerely

David B. Lawrence,

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A " pwnco " reply from " doormouse "

At Engel's dasha that he visited in summer, Marx came to stay and said: 'We need a plumber. Tho the stench of oppression gives us pains, today we have nothing to sluice but our drains.' xx

At Engel's dasha that he visited in summer,
Marx came to stay and said: 'We need a plumber.
Tho the stench of oppression gives us pains,
today we have nothing to sluice but our drains.'

xx doormouse

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Ariadni also sent me a very long reply featuring Phanis but it does not feature Marx or Engels ...

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Engels and Marx had each extreme strains_Of their ideologies which they sang in refrains_But Queen Victoria was not amused_That these German immigrants her Albert abused_And declared " We will have nothing but coups in our reigns ! "

Engels and Marx each had* extreme strains_
Of their ideologies which they sang in refrains_
But Queen Victoria was not amused_
That these German immigrants her Albert abused_
And declared " We will have nothing but coups in our reigns ! "

*one of those frustrating rhythm flips where I originally wrote " each had " then changed it to " had each " because the rhythm seemed better and now I am confused.

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts the moral right - not to sue for copyright !
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The seminal events which led to the creation of The Cardiff Illuminati were recently celebrated all around Britain - [ TEXT ] -

= https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tYEfJMAL-7c
= https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-k-LqFLWWs0
= https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E02SswGxeSM

Bourdieu and Foucault exchanged views -_" Marx's ' Capital ' was cultural - a fuse ! "_" Yes - he exploded our consciousness : _No more historical pompousness -_We are nothing but brains on the loose ! "

Bourdieu and Foucoult exchanged views -_
" Marx's ' Capital ' was cultural - a fuse ! "_
" Yes - he exploded our consciousness : _
No more historical pompousness -_
We are nothing but brains on the loose ! "

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !

Dr Frankenstein now consulted Haynes'_Manual for connecting veins_Whilst Igor begged to throw the switch_Because he had completed every stitch :_" ... Und Herr Doktor : you have nothing to fuse but your mains ! " =
[ A FURTHER GAG ON THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO ] =
dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence


Dr Frankenstein now consulted Haynes'_
Manual for Connecting Veins_
Whilst Igor begged to throw the switch_
Because he had completed every stitch :_
" ... Und Herr Doktor : you have nothing to fuse but your mains ! "
=
[ A FURTHER GAG ON THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO ]
=
dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts the moral right - not to sue for copyright !

The Great Architect surveyed The Drains_Before ducking beneath The Tower Cranes_To make his way / back / to The Site Hut_Where The Contractor ( Satan ) quickly decided - " But -_we have nothing to lose but your gains ! " // we have nothing but bruises and pains // We will have nothing but bruises and pains ! "


The Great Architect surveyed The Drains_
Before ducking beneath The Tower Cranes_
To make his wet way back to The Site Hut_
Where The Contractor ( Satan ) decided - " - but -_
We have nothing to bruise but - YEEEAAARGH - pains !!! "

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts the moral right - not to sue for copyright !

Adolf Hitler became insane_ Because Charlie Chaplin looked the same_" How dare you mock my great Third Reich_With a Double-Cross on your red push-bike // By Double-Crossing my red push-bike :_You have nothing - two shoes & a cane !!! "


Adolf Hitler became insane_
Because Charlie Chaplin looked the same_
" How dare you mock my great Third Reich_
By Double-Crossing my red push-bike :_
With your Double-Cross as a red push-bike_
With a Double Cross on your red push-bike :
... ... ... BEST ?

You have nothing - two shoes & a cane !!! "

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !

Mad to be awake at this hour writing proetry : but.one last.thing.- Charlie Chaplin's " Double Cross " speech.-

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nKm_wA-WdI4

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POST SCRIPT - THE IDEA BEHIND " PWNCO " IS RAPID IMPROVISATION : IN YE OLDEN DAYS OF WELCH PROETICS POETS WOULD CASUALLY CONVERSE IN RHYME DURING EVERYDAY ENCOUNTERS AND SO OFTEN ENDED UP IN JAIL AS A CONSEQUENCE - OR HORRIBLY MURDERED BY THEIR DESPERATE WIVES ...

... So pwnco is not expected to be polished but people like it to be funny and thought-provoking : I knock mine out in typically ten minutes and then I want to fiddle with them afterwards ... I think that I should have stuck to the theme - ?

Dr Engelstein consulted Haynes'_
Manual for Connecting Veins_
Whilst Marxor begged to throw the switch_
Because he had completed every stitch :_
" ... Und Herr Doktor : you have nothing to fuse but your mains ! "
=
[ A FURTHER GAG ON THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO ]
=
dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence

But a less successful attempt is ( and did you know that Hitler claimed to be a Marxist ? That The Swastika replaced The Hammer and Sickle on The Nazi Red Flag ? )

Marxist Hitler became insane_
Because Engel's Chaplin looked the same_
" How dare you mock my great Third Reich_
With your Double-Crossing look-alike :_
You have nothing - two shoes & a cane !!! "
=
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I decided to take a break to try a Frankfurter but remarkably ended up trying to digest a Griffin instead - funny : I thought that he was a mythical creature but he just proved to be unpalatable and difficult to swallow ... I laughed a lot at this : how " Y Repwblic " somehow got confused with these sorts of morons I do not know ... OK ... I do know - the morons on the extreme Left and extreme Right both asssumed that " White " politics refers to " white " racial supremecism - either because they are ignorant of European political history or have heard of " White " and believe it to be a reactionary politics ... well - in a sense yes - " White " is centre-ground, pluralistic, tolerant, progressive - " Civ " is conventional Republicanism : it reflects the cultural norms of 21c political systems which is why in The IK it appears to be " revolutionary " because The Democrats in Wales and Westminster are so reactionary. The UK was an abnormal political system even in the 17c and constitutionally Wales is still stuck in the early 16c.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-HXZaSCYLlM

What century is Nick Griffin still stuck in then ?

An imagined dystopia in the 23c perhaps ?

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( still needs a tweak ? ) The Theatre in The Ancient World_Was a political statement about The Sword :_ The Democrats demanded truly savage tragic endings_Whereas all of The Republicans preferred romantic comedic bendings_Meanwhile The People in The Audience refused to say The Word.

( still needs a tweak ? )

The Theatre in The Ancient World_
Was a political statement about The Sword :_
The Democrats demanded truly savage tragic endings_
Whereas all of The Republicans preferred romantic comedic bendings_
Meanwhile all of The People in The Audience refused to say The Word.

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue copyright !

( tweaked ? )

The Theatre in The Ancient World_
Was a political statement about The Sword :_
The Democrats demanded truly savage tragic endings_
Whereas The Republicans preferred romantic comedic bendings_
Meanwhile all of The People in The Audience refused to say The Word.

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue copyright !
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