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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:42 pm    Post subject: " [ - ] " - " PLAID Y REPWBLIC " - ? Reply with quote

" [ - ] " is one of those easily typed symbols which I play with - such as " /x\ " and " >|< " and " /|\ " - which has been featuring in various versions of the new artwork for a front page for repwblic.org - or perhaps repwblic.cymru - or its companion domain repwblic.wales - but I wonder as to whether this can be widely understood to mean " containing everything in between The Left and The Right " i.e. that " - " basically represents the idea that everybody should get together to " decide the contents of Republicanism in Wales for your selves " ...

... whereas the title stumbled upon my understanding of Welsh - which is not a natural understanding - because there is " Cymdeithas y'r Iaith " and " Cymdeithas y Dysgwyr " and " Cymdeithas y Mabinogi " and " Cymdeithas Cyfamod y Cymry Rhydd " etc ... but since the title of the board is " Y Repwblic " and " Y " has a special linguistic significance in Welsh in that it changes its sound from " Closed " to " Open " depending upon its circumstances in the same way that The Republicans in Wales behave - and I want this " Y " to be understood as being sounded as " Uh ! " because I want " Y Repwblic " to stand as an advocate of " The Open Conspiracy " - i.e. " There is no conspiracy ! " - I chose that ...

... Dafydd / Moritz will probably now " decide the contents of Republicanism in Wales for your selves " ... if you want to take " [ - ] " to be a crooked " H " then you might take it to stand for a number of really juicy words in Welsh - but as to which ones I will leave those to your own imaginations - you can try searching in this ... http://welsh-dictionary.ac.uk/gpc/gpc.html


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh dear ... why did it even enter my head ? ... Because whilst I deem everything to be in a mess and this to be absolutely not the time to attempt such a project - this is the time ...

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PLEASE PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THIS : I AM DAVID B LAWRENCE - " dai repwblic " - & after 10 yrs repwblic.informe.com is now bigger in terms of file size & valuation than all of the websites of the registered UK political parties : we have a large audience overseas - but not in Wales because our stance politically is Internationalist & Pacifist - not Nationalist or Militarist. Our campaign is to make visible " Conversations with Wales' Republicans " so that others can understand that our political sentiments have been misrepresented by the supporters of The United Kingdom. One of our major concerns is that harassment of The Republicans in Wales has resulted in nobody being able to successfully found a Republican Party in Wales & this means that the 20% of the electorate who identify themselves as " Republican " have no possibility of voting according to their political sentiments i.e. to obtain a strongly constructed political system for Wales. I have for decades felt that those of us who publicly identify ourselves as being Republicans in Wales have a personal duty to find the courage, time and money to oppose and bring to an end the oppression of those who believe in Republicanism by The United Kingdom & to deliver to those 500,000+ people who privately identify themselves as being Republicans in Wales a publicly functioning political organisation to advocate for our political beliefs & to stop them being misrepresented. If this is to be a Republican Democratic Party ready for 2020's UK election we need 5,000+ people.

This has taken me suddenly and by surprise : I certainly do not think that I am the person to lead any sort of political party - but my judgement in these matters has always been good and somebody has to raise " Y Faner Wen " once more ... it is irresponsible not to try : no patriot in the face of overwhelming odds simply turns and runs - it is our duty to future generations and to all other nations to make our stand with them.

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I went to a party with Nathan Gill_But he was locked out so we sat on the cill_Where I asked him how he worked more than one job ... _This was when he looked away - before he punched my gob -_And then he left me there - but later sent me his bill.

I went to a party with Nathan Gill_
But he was locked out so we sat on the cill_
Where I asked him how he worked more than one job ... _
This was when he looked away - before he punched my gob -_
And then he left me there - but later sent me his bill.

= dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !


What provoked me to send out that SMS above - ten texts long - was reading this news story : the idea that UKIP have seven AMs whereas nobody can even get a Republican Democratic Party together really worries me ... UKIP advocates virtually everything which Republicans oppose ... let us not blame Brexit, Britshit or Bullshit - but blame ourselves for not delivering to The Republicans in Wales a political organisation that can collectively articulate and publicly advocate Republican politics.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-37133496 - UKIP's Nathan Gill says allegations against him 'bogus'

" UKIP MEP Nathan Gill said allegations he misused European parliamentary funds are "entirely bogus". ... OLAF, the European anti-fraud body, is looking into the claims, although North Wales Police has said it is no longer investigating the matter. ... It relates to alleged use of European parliamentary funds for party political purposes, such as election campaigning. ... Mr Gill announced on Wednesday he would sit as an independent member of the Welsh Assembly, following an acrimonious row with other UKIP members over whether he should he remain both an MEP and AM. ... Neil Hamilton, the leader of the UKIP group in the assembly, has called on Mr Gill to publish his expenses and expenditure as an MEP since being elected in 2014. ... "


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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07pgw3k - " How we voted Brexit "

Well I am laying here listening to " How we voted Brexit " - an account in their own words as to what happened by some of those involved at the highest level - more smoke than light I think in explaining themselves ... But clearly this is all a matter of raking over the ashes in the hope of finding the causes of this conflaguration ... but there are no smoking buns to examine - just a load of currents left which are leading us who knows where.

A couple of posts above I quoted a text that I had sent out and I can hardly ignore the fact that I both sent it and declared it here ... It was I think not such a strange thing to do but a necessary one ... But it was not so much a plan but a prophecy : we have to do something - we need to have a means to protect ourselves from becoming the subject of allegations by The Democrats in Wales who in all likelyhood as the consequences of " Brexit " begin to bear down on our society will deflect the blame from themselves by looking to direct the unfocussed anger of unhappy people onto some political minority that everybody will automatically agree is to blame because they know nothing of the reality of them but know that they are different and therefore a threat to everything which they agree with ... Having got rid of The People in Europe they will no longer be able to blame The European Union and if the present level of racism carries on increasing then there may be no one left to blame but themselves which they will not accept either - so in imagining an " enemy within " they may well pick on The Republicans in Wales again ... Without even knowing that the phrase " The Enemy Within " is a quotation from the author of the book " De Re Publica " - from where we get the name of our politics - Cicero : the famous Republican.

" An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear."

Marcus Tullius Cicero -


I think that I will now sign off this thread by disclosing something that was on my mind before I made that surprising - perhaps stupid - announcement : something which risks exactly what I have just been worrying about to you but have not named - the allegation that when a Republican describes the risks of civil disorder being raised by the stupid behaviours of The Democrats in Wales and The World we are inciting not predicting violence ... I agree that there is the risk involved of exciting feeble minds by mentioning such things - but here is what I encountered recently on what I regard as my home turf in Butetown, in the south eastern quarter of our city-within-a-city where The Welsh Assembly meets in " Y Senedd " i.e. " The Senate " containing our " National Assembly " which has a conical " pyramid " roof topped by a weather vane that is shaped like a " phrygian cap " - everything invoking the culture of Republicanism but the useof the word is frowned upon !

I encountered two South Wales Police officers carrying sub-machine guns and for no obvious purpose other than to be seen by The People in Butetown of which there were a lot that day because there was a sort of festival going on - I forget the name of it but there was a steel band and an opportunity to think that we are still grand and even to steal sand etc - now - I do not care how you feel about guns but whilst I can accept them as useful farm implements I find no reason for anyone to appear on our streets with them : I not only regarded this a gratuitous posing for no good reason but also I found it to be extremely offensive to see little children running around with the sight of sub-machine guns in the hands of police officers being made normal for them.

That I believe was the main effect of the exercise even if the intention was different : there was surely no strategic defence reason for armed officers to be standing outside Ty Senedd - this was a political statement being made either by The Welsh Government or The South Wales Police. They may have many explanations for this behaviour such as them being there because of hightened security - ( then why not get the army in who know how to defend buildings with guns - which you do not do by presenting police officers as targets to be shot at ) - I think that the most plausible explanation is that the real targets of such behaviour are the minds of The People in Wales, that the intention is to create in them an increased sense of threat - which The Democrats in Wales probably think is very clever - but which I think is definitely very stupid.

When I talk of " black factions " I am not referring to any specific group excepting that I view The United Kingdom as being able to draw upon at least two " black factions " - one military and openly conducted and the other paramilitary and covertly conducted. Violence breeds violence and whilst Democrats view non-state paramilitaries as being beyond their control and therefore not lawful - Republicans do not think of paramilitaries as being unlawful in terms of The Natural Law because they usually coelesce in opposition to the violence of The State and this of course is presently under the control of The Democrats in Wales : theirs is not The Right Hand Path of Dextrous Politics - of Altruism which Republicanism recommends - but it is what Republicans observe to lead into a spiral of further violences - The Left Hand Path of Sinister Politics i.e. of Ultraism.

Therefore I repeat that Republicanism describes how The World works and predicts the consequences of such Sinister activities - hence I am predicting that The Welsh Government is stupidly or - even worse - deliberately risking these South Wales Police officers openly carrying sub-machine guns being perceived as a challenge to a fight in the minds of those in whom they have cultivated their own paranoid view of The World ... My advice is that the police forces in Wales keep such weapons out of sight until they are needed - please - and for Common Sense' sake let us not allow guns to become normal on our streets - it is bad enough that our children are being brought up on a mental diet of war films and violent video games in order to draw them easily into The Bloody Plans of The Democrats in Westminster.

RED REVOLUTION

The Revolution it has been said_
In Wales will feature no bloodshed_
The Democrats will quietly yield_
And The Republicans will take the field_
And then we'll paint each post box red !

= dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts the moral right - not to sue for copyright !


And the moral of that pretty ditty is that The Republicans in Wales are WELSH Republicans : our political analysis is different but our morals and ethics are always WELSH and so we subscribe to the same norms as our society - except that we perceive the political system of The People in Wales in a different way to that of The Democrats in Wales ... We have exactly the same diversity of political opinions - Conservative, Fascist, Liberal, Anarchist, Socialist, Communist etc - but we disagree with those who subscribe to using Democratic methods - because these are clearly not founded upon facts and arguments and are therefore non-political methods : we are The Altruists who want a proper political system where those making the laws and policies which deploy the The State to enforce them can not be coerced by sectarian private interests using the various forms of power politics exercised by The Ultraists - Hierocrats, Democrats, Aristocrats, Monocrats - which attack The Public Interest i.e. we support and advocate for " De Re Publica." To put that another way : Republicans want a political system in which The State is The Property of The People - not this vice perversa of enslavement to The United Kingdom.

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POST SCRIPT - My emphasising above that we are " WELSH Republicans " - which echoes the term " Welsh Republicans " as used by Nationalist Republicans e.g. Cymru Rydd - is slightly differentiated for the purposes of emphasis - there really are cultural differences between the WELSH and the ENGLISH quite besides the fact that a proprtion of " The People in Wales " conduct their daily lives through the medium of Cymraeg. I use the terms " The Republicans in Wales " and " The People in Wales " for the purposes of accuracy, inclusivity, eccentricity and above all to stamp my writing with a Mannaerism that emphasises that mine is the classical Republican stance - Nomocratic and Cosmopolitan - rather than merely spewing out a surfeit of ridiculous sentimentalities ... I never really feel Welsh until I am in a foreign country - where it often proves to be convenient to declare as my Dad did that he was " NOT ENGLISH ! " - and whilst I often get a sense of coming home when I am crossing the Severn Sea and glimpse the waters shimmering beneath the bridges the places that speak more of that to me are any of the roads leading into the Rhondda Valleys where I immediately sense both how I relate to The People in The Rhondda - and how I do not : I live elsewhere and am very much a product of my own history as they are of theirs. This kind of localised sense of individual identity is I think far more powerful than notions of nations because it is grounded in reality - and thus it means that it is only ever individuals who possess political authority - but only ever because of the facts and arguments which they can cite from their own lives : Republican political arguments are founded upon the realities of The Lives in Our Societies - whereas Democratic politics is founded upon dreams and results in nightmares.

Now perhaps you have never encountered The People in Wales - see if you can contrive to listen to these conversations and understand us :

" The Listening Project " is reporting from Swansea - conversations with locals - pleasurable interesting things said =

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07pj81y
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does not matter of course whether " Y Repwblic " leads such a project because the idea must be around in the minds of a number of " The Republicans in Wales " and for a variety of reasons because so much has been happening ... the project of " Y Repwblic " features in the ideas of both The Left and The Right but they are normally so sectarian that each will cling to their own ideas as to what that means - e.g. Myron will demand that in his " republic " The State will be able to command everybody to only sell their houses to those whom The State in Wales approves - which amounts to a Bill of Attainder which in his case privileges those who only speak Welsh ... and Dafydd is of course in favour of all power to the soviets - which will privilege all those who do not own a house ... but Republicanism insists upon The Rule of Law - and without exceptions : it rejects the discrimination of The Left which removes the rights of those which they define by class identity ... and also rejects the discrimination of The Right which removes the rights of those which they define by ethnic identity ... and above all it denies that there is such a thing as " Sovereignty " which privileges those which those which have acquired power over The State to hold themselves and those they assign to be above the laws which they pass to govern The State in Wales for the purposes of using it to control The People in Wales : nobody is outside of The Rule of Law - and therefore anybody who defines themselves to be so is by their own definition an " outlaw " and must be placing themselves in opposition to The People in Wales who are bound by The Rule of Law as defined by The State in Wales - i.e. The Democrats in Wales and Westminster.

That is a pretty rough definition and the question which immediately arises is as to what is meant by " The Rule of Law " when The Republicans in Wales are discussing it ... well we do not mean " as defined by The State in Wales " because within Republicanism the idea of " The State in Wales " being equated with " The Republic in Wales " is dangerous - " The Rule of Law " being referred to in " Nomocracy " ( the posh word for " Republicanism " - which means " The Power of The Law " ) is " The Natural Law " ( or - more archaically - " The Divine Law " ) and the point of this is to deny that " justice " can be argued to be merely the application of the laws of The State in Wales : the political principle underlying Republicanism is that all just laws MUST be obeyed - and all unjust laws MUST be disobeyed ... in other words what is commonly called " Civil Disobedience " is deemed by Republicans to be " Civil Obedience " - we are compelled by our obedience to " The Nomos " ( " The Law " ) to oppose The State if it is enforcing laws which result in injustice because those who govern it are making bad laws and policies either out of thoughtlessness, through incompetence or with criminal intent. The reader will immediately see that the Republican principle not only leads to opposing The State when it is a " kingdom " but also when it is a " republic " whenever its actions are unjust - but also leads to supporting The State whenever its actions are just : this is not therefore about The State but about whether the social relationships in question are just or unjust.

Republicans generally argue that if the parties involved have consented to their social relationship then however offensive these are to others then provided they are happy to be in such a social relationship then it is in The Public Interest ( " De Res Publica " ) to respect The Private Interest ( " De Res Privata " ) ... but ... whilst such parties can agree to be harmed by each other if it is the case that the " consent " has been gained by coercion from one party by another - then others may choose to intervene in order to re-establish the consenting nature of the social relationship or to end it entirely ... there is a whole variety of such arguments and debates in Republicanism and one of the more prominent which has become in many instances mis-identified with Republicanism itself has been the right of self-determination for political communities such as nations ... but Nationalism is not Republicanism : here in Wales the Nationalist party " Plaid Cymru " is not a Republican party because it has no plan for a Republican political system - indeed those within it professing to be " Welsh Republicans " do not know what Republicanism is : it is an oxymoron - there can only be " Republicanism in Wales " because there can be nothing " Welsh " about it save the history of this political theory since it first entered our nation's cultural consciousness c1550 through the translations of Machiavelli and other contemporary Italian political texts by William Thomas who was tutor to Edward VI.

In the centuries that followed Republicanism in Wales was so influential that to write the history of this nation without any knowledge of it is ridiculous - but The People in Wales do not know this because our school history books have been written by those who support The United Kingdom and have taken it as a given that Republicanism is a criminal conspiracy - and " not Democratic." In fact the 16c The United Kingdom was explicitly shaped by Republicanism and both in The Wars of The Three Kingdoms and when the American colonies rebelled in 1776 the contending parties were citing this as a precedent : it was only from the 1790s onwards after The People in Wales - and England - and Scotland - and Ireland - began appealing for the political reforms evident in The French Revolution that propagandists for The United Kingdom ( in the war which broke out supposedly against The People in France but mostly for The Sugar in The Indies ) began to portray " Republicanism " as a criminal conspiracy against The King in England - because it was " Democratic " ! ... Actually prominent Republicans in Wales, England, Scotland and Ireland were all pleading for the life of The King in France : there is in fact nothing in Republicanism is against the continued existence of The Royal Family - Republicanism is " Nomocracy " and therefore provided that no person is placed above The Rule of Law and The People in Wales want to pay for them they can keep them ...

... If you are astounded by that - consider this : where have you got your ideas about Republicanism from ? ... Have you ever read a proper book on Republicanism ? ... No ? ... Stop and think on this for a minute : surely you have heard of Momoro's slogan " Liberty, Equality, Fraternity " ? ... Actually it was " ″Unité, Indivisibilité de la République; Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité ou la mort″ ... Perhaps you are aware that modern republics typically have some key constitutional laws which are often called " Human Rights " ... No, do not try to tell me that The United Kingdom also has these : the Human Rights Act 1998 is a falsehood because a " Human Right " can not be suspended or got rid of - this Act of Parliament is as provisional as every other law in The United Kingdom and The Dictators in Downing Street can not be restrained by any law ... In Wales we have a " Welsh Government " whose continued existence depends upon the goodwill of The Prime Minister of another state, " Human Rights " which are merely temporary privileges only extended to us if we continue to ingratiate ourselves to Terrorista May - and laws which are determined in another jurisdiction where not only those who have never set foot in Wales can over-rule our elected representatives ( often quite a relief, given how incompetent they are at making laws in The Welsh Assembly ) but they themselves can be over-ruled because " The Supreme Court " is not supreme in The United Kingdom ... in short ... The Rule of Law does not exist in Wales - not even in the conventional sense - where it can be taken to mean " Obey us - or we will harass, fine, imprison and kill you."

If I were to tell you about some country in which such a state of affairs existed would you not at least reach for your Purple Pen - even if nobody as yet had actually been killed ? If you heard of some minority being discriminated against on the basis of their identity - would you not protest against the licencing of hatred towards them in the press and start a campaign to ensure their human rights ? Am I now talking about foreigners - or about The Royal Family - or about you - or about The Republicans in Wales ?

I am talking about being able to talk about such things : about creating a political organisation which can at least describe Republicanism correctly to The People in Wales - but I think that we need a statement which has been widely agreed upon across The World in order to defeat both those who claim that " Republicanism in Wales is Whatever I Say It Is ! " and those who claim that " Republicans in Wales are Criminals ! " - and so I want to propose that we use the modern standard text as used in the various politics departments of the constituent colleges of The University of Wales : " Republicanism " by Philip Pettit.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Republicanism-Theory-Freedom-Government-Political/dp/0198296428/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

Republicanism: A Theory of Freedom and Government (Oxford Political Theory) - Philip Pettit - ISBN-10: 0198296428 - ISBN-13: 978-0198296423

This is the first full-length presentation of a republican alternative to the liberal and communitarian theories that have dominated political philosophy in recent years. The latest addition to the acclaimed Oxford Political Theory series, Pettit's eloquent and compelling account opens with an examination of the traditional republican conception of freedom as non-domination, contrasting this with established negative and positive views of liberty. The first part of the book traces the rise and decline of this conception, displays its many attractions, and makes a case for why it should still be regarded as a central political ideal. The second part of the book looks at what the implementation of the ideal would require with regard to substantive policy-making, constitutional and democratic design, regulatory control and the relation between state and civil society. Prominent in this account is a novel concept of democracy, under which government is exposed to systematic contestation, and a vision of state-societal relations founded upon civility and trust. Pettit's powerful and insightful new work offers not only a unified, theoretical overview of the many strands of republican ideas, but also a new and sophisticated perspective on studies in related fields including the history of ideas, jurisprudence, and criminology.


( You know of course that I disagree with Philip - but he has been polite about my ideas ! )

On the other hand - if you want something less expensive and more readable - try these books by Fintan O'Toole who is trying to resurrect Republicanism in Ireland which had already been robbed by Fianna Fail ( " The Greens in Ireland " ) before it was murdered by Sinn Fein ( " The Reds in Ireland " ) ... " The Whites in Ireland " have been struggling for decades ... but as in Wales the news of the death of Republicanism is a lie ...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Up-Republic-Towards-New-Ireland/dp/0571289002/ref=pd_sim_14_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=TYY07NFZQK1DWMQHEG1C

Up the Republic ! : Towards a New Ireland - ed Fintan O'Toole - Faber & Faber - ISBN-10: 0571289002 - ISBN-13: 978-0571289004

In this important book, historians, lawyers, economists and writers come together to put a coherent case: that although the Irish economic collapse has resulted in national humiliation, renewed emigration and a decline in living standards for the majority of the population, there is still hope that the country can be reformed and renewed. Irish politicians offered the now notorious blanket guarantee to all the banks which had got in over their heads during the great property bubble - including one that had become little more than a criminal enterprise. A different set of politicians grimly enforces the consequences of that guarantee, locking an entire generation of Irish men and women into paying for the mistakes of greedy bankers and their corrupt friends in government. The energy of hope has to come from elsewhere. These essays demonstrate how simple measures and different economic and social policies could release that energy and fulfil the promise of an educated, literate and culturally vibrant people.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have returned to tinker with the above the following morning - such things are probably best left alone : we are not writing academic essays on Y Repwblic nor commenting as journalists but are holding " Conversations with Wales' Republicans " which mostly means talking to ourselves ... which would be very evident if you had ever got to see everybody together in The Party of The Cardiff Illumina(r)ti - the discussion, drinking and discussion group which coelesced within / over / under " Galahads " which was Moritz / Dafydd's bookstore / bookshop / talkshop in the 1980s ... I was recently describing " Y Repwblic " to one of the grown ups who was there at the time as a child - most of the children around at the time now have children who are themselves now either planning to have children or have already done so - and the idea that we are still at it - whatever " it " is - brought forth their jokes and smiles ... and also - I am pleased to say - questions from those who are not yet quite grown up and are as quite able to get as excited about Republicanism in Wales as the rest of us who are not quite grown up yet ... One thing that I did not address last night - which I have rarely addressed - is that whoever the activists are who are about to come forth to represent The Republicans in Wales with new ideas, new methods and new organisations they are unlikely to be as old as twenty years old as I write ... Now I have often joked about " The Book " which I have been writing for over thirty years - it does indeed exist but the scope of my recreational attempts to deconstruct or rather reconstruct " The Ideo-Rational Analysis " as a Post-Modernist Meta-Ideological Thingummybob has now been reduced to the simpler idea of my trying to write a book which I have provisionally named - " Republicanism for Teenagers " - because I think that our generation should be advising them - not leading them : but we should not leave them floundering to re-invent " The Wheel of The World."

Let me be Open and hope that we all move towards The Axis and can resurrect " The Dead Centre."
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep dropping in with my smartphone to monitor how many are viewing various topic threads and I see that at the moment the answer is 42 ... so I guess that may mean that this " campaign " is the sort of futile gesture made in the trenches of World War One ... So I might as well go over the top with it ... I was planning to do a cartoon for this to convey an impression of what we refer to as " The Cardiff Illuminati " which was the " discussion, drinking, demonstrating " group that Dafydd, Marianne and I ( dai ) and many others were and still are part of : although repwblic.informe.com was created by Pen Ddu to replace Cymru Rydd's bulletin board ctd.forumer.com he did so either to get rid of me by sending me off on a wild goose chase or - as I understand it - to coax me into being the administrator of the board by using the title of my 2002 pamphlet " Repwblic " to create " Y Repwblic " - the " Y " was just about Pen Ddu's only written contribution to the board ... What then happened ... is history ... I guess that you can figure that out by reading the board ... At the present moment it should be obvious that " Y Repwblic " has a very different take on Republicanism in Wales to those who identify themselves as Welsh Republicans ... We do indeed have quite a lot in common with the other groups which congregate in December each year in Cilmeri but if you were to make the pilgrimage there yourself you would immediately sense that the two marginal groups there are literally as different as " Black " V " White " and in between these two extremes - Nationalist & Militarist V Internationalist & Pacifist - there exists as many political colours as there are people there : arguably even more than that because in those Conversations with Wales' Republicans our colours subtly - sometimes radically - change hue and veer either into the paler tints towards uniting together or into the darker shades of the sectarianisms which divide us and drive some out of the sphere of politics entirely and into dubious ideas.

In one such Conversation with Wales' Republican " Black Faction " at Cilmeri I put the matter to one of them thus : which would be more likely to persuade a person to understand and sympathise with your political arguments - punching them in the face ... or telling them a joke ?

A POLITICAL JOKE : IMPROVISED TODAY - WHICH ILLUSTRATES MY OPINION THAT " POLITICAL VIOLENCE " IS AN OXYMORON ... [ TEXT ]

Try a dodgy joke on you : as a Pacificator I am allowed to defend myself only provided I do no more : a single-shot Derringer is usually permitted for this purpose ... Anyway ... I was waiting for a lift to leave Transport House & being in a hurry & loaded down I stumbled as I entered & my files fell on the floor & were scattered in front of three pairs of brown shoes : to my horror I found myself kneeling at the feet of Neil Kinnock & to my terror I also found myself grovelling before Tony Blair & I just can not find words to describe what I felt beneath Gordon Brown ... I knew that I could not possibly defend myself from all three of them with a single bullet & so all that I could think of was to blow my own brains out & that is why I walk with a limp !


AN ANECDOTE FROM THE CARDIFF ILLUMINATI - CIRCA MID 1980s - ANOTHER TEXT FROM TODAY - AND NOT MADE UP AT ALL !!!

Yes : in The Cardiff Illuminati we were mostly Freethought so there was no conformism - I am rather dull in comparison to the others - I used to read about that stuff when I was happier but I met so many weird maladjusted people obsessing about their Fairy Folk etc that I began to question the psychologies of those who not only find such things to be significant but can not take such pursuits to be recreations akin to Art. Dafydd still remembers this fondly so you can ask him for his version of the event : I think that it was my turn as Magister - I never took the Smells and Bells seriously enough for Dafydd's sense of propriety - & I placed five objects in the circle : all of them were not what they seemed & therefore were to invite imaginative comment. The third object used the paper jacket from a Bible but wrapped around - er ... I think that it was Egon Ronay restaurant directory cut down to size & stained blue to deceive the casual onlooker ... Once the contents of " the book " were revealed it made one person very angry : I was accused of blasphemy and all sorts of things because I had exposed their religious sensibilities about " The Holy Book " by playing upon " Do not judge a book by its cover."

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Post Script - the disposition of " The Cardiff Illuminati " can probably best explained in comparison to " The Welsh Socialist Republican Movement " which was associated with another bookshop " 108 " which was ( six ? ) doors away in Salisbury Road, Cathays, Cardiff ... The WSRM collapsed after " Operation Julie " in which they were targeted for a large number of arrests by The South Wales Police in order to find people to sign confessions after which several were charged with " Conspiracy " which led to a trial in which their circumstances were exposed : basically most of them were very earnest in their beliefs and in the aftermath of the Devolution Referendum and General Election in 1979 began excitedly discussing the evident potential for civil unrest. We were all aware of it - but " The Reds " began to openly play with it ... whereas we ridiculed them for their naivity ... " The Whites " think that what seemed to follow was predictable - that " The Reds " were infiltrated by a provocateurs and unsurprisingly their rhetoric attracted those who wanted to be provoked ... you can read about this in John Osmond's book " Police Conspiracy ? " Y Lolfa isbn 086243077 ...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Police-Conspiracy-John-Osmond/dp/0862430771

Police Conspiracy ? - by John Osmond - Y Lolfa Cyf (Jun. 1984) - ISBN-10: 0862430771

" The full story of the Cardiff Conspiracy Trial, the longest and most expensive political trial in Welsh history - with special attention to the police frame-up."

.... After the trial the remains of " The Reds " reconvened as " Cymru Goch " whereas " The Whites " coelesced more by accident than by design in " Galahads " and more by disposition than by reasoned stance we poured scorn on doctrinaire belief systems of all sorts - whilst being very interested in them : we object to people being caught up in ideas - but we are very interested in creating ideas ... it was Abigail Leonard who said - in her soft Vermont accent - " Hell - if The South Wales Police are going to force us all to confess to ' Conspiracy ' let's confess to belonging to the best one going - The Illuminati ! " ... Twenty years or so later Dafydd and I went to a " Stuff The Monarchy ! " event in Clwb Y Bont in Pontypridd and were sat talking with Tim Richards WSRM/Cymru Goch and we dissuaded him from his proposal to go around the route of a Royal visit with a stencil spray-painting other people's villages ... but ... There was a fourth person at that table ... In the early hours of the morning beforehand Tim found himself being arrested by The South Wales Police - his wife and kids intimidated ? - and " The English Law " was used - as usual - to punish someone for thinking out loud and conducting themselves in an " Open " manner ... " The Cardiff Illuminati " has never been conducted in ' secret ' but always in ' private ' ... excepting of course that time that The South Wales Police raided the lodge - but of course they do not understand politics so they did not have a clue what they were encountering ... It took Dafydd months to get the stuff back - and they had obviously broken the whip by using it on themselves ... The South Wales Police are unjust brutes you know ... ooo-ooo-oh-oh-oh-AH-ah-aaaahhhh ...

... And whilst I am about it I ought to mention the third major battalion of " The Peaceable Army " - Galahads stood on the corner of Salisbury Road and Lowther Road and if you walk down under the railway bridge and turn right and then into Gordon Road you will find " Ty Cymry " which was arguably the headquarters of " The Greens " who had gone back to supporting Plaid Cymru - I bet they regret that now ... and of course all militant dis-organisations have a whole series of specialised groups associated with them : The Catering Coeur kept us moving with carrot cakes and sticky things with lectures about The Republic in Vegetopia ... The Transport Corpse stopped us moving with cars and trains with lectures about The Republic in Sustransylvania ... the Female Objectification Unit was forever issuing reports denouncing the intelligence of the Male Observation Unit - but neither could come up with a convincing proposal for The Republic in The Pub - so they just sat in opposite corners of the bar and took the piss out of each other ... the co-operators refused to work together but those involved in the Local Exchange Trading Scheme worked together as often as possible and so grew very wealthy but could not find anything to purchase in The Republic of Let's ... and of course I ought to mention those operating beyond the front line of our struggle - " The Little Snipers " - as their teachers have described them to their parents : purple stars all round for The Infantry of The Peaceable Army !

Perhaps I joke too much ... I use the rather romantic term " The Peaceable Army " for the living tradition of radical peaceable - and as far as I am concerned Republican - politics in South Wales which stretches back arguably for a thousand years ... I think that it is the natural disposition of The People in Wales and The World to do The Right Thing - and whilst I would not claim my nation to be more proficient than others at doing good we certainly collectively subscribe to that well-known maxim - " Something Must Be Done ! " ... Whilst some really inspiring things make it into the history books - as below - it should not be forgotten that without the strong sense of justice shared between The People in Wales and The World our societies would not - could not - work : The Republic in Wales and The World knows no borders and acknowledges no nations - perhaps it does not even recognise wrongdoing ... it is The Natural Law which dictates the consequences of our actions and it is indifferent to the outcome : if you choose The Left Hand Path of Lies, Hatred, Enslavement and War then it will lead to Death - if you choose The Right Hand Path of Truth, Love, Freedom and Peace then it will lead to Life - you may choose ! ... Making a choice between " Sinister Politics " and " Dextrous Politics " however is not always easy : a child may lie out of fear and we might well blame the parent not the child ... but what about corporate executives lying about the safety of nuclear power stations ?

When I retell the story of " The Peaceable Army " I usually depict an uneasy truce between The Aristocrats who supported The King and The Democrats who supported Parliament. The King arrived in Cardiff and The Sheriff issued a ' Posse Comitatus ' to summon the ( 8,000 ? ) Glamorgan County Militia which assembled on the Newport Road outside the East Gate. The King inspected them and then was taken to dinner in The Greyfriars ( an important historic medieval building - so The Labour & Cooperative Party had it demolished in the 1970s so they could sell off the land to a property speculator : the grave of the hero Llewelyn Bren is now somewhere beneath " The Capital Tower." ) After dinner The Monocrat was looking forwards to marching his new Welsh army - having carelessly misplaced his English army - back into England : he handed this written order to The Clerk in The Borough of Cardiff and graciously accepted a large chest of plate, coinage and bullion and ... The Aristocrats were sort of looking at the ceiling ... and The Democrats were sort of looking at the floor ... and The Clerk was the only person looking directly at him - which was very rude, after all Monocrats are Gods annointed - " Er - Your Majesty - I do hope that you do fully support The Rule of Law ... You must understand that invading a foreign country is a very - very - serious business and all of the paperwork has to be in order and ... well this Posse Comitatus is of course in order - exquisitely so, for I draughted it myself - using Halsbury - but in order for The Glamorgan Militia to cross The River Rhymney into Monmouthshire ... well ... you will need to forward this document to Parliament in order for them to decide to endorse it." The Monocrat's face turned to touching a tint of Tyrian but they all rallied round to declare to him that " The Peaceable Army " would always defend Wales - at which remark his face then turned Black ... and so it came to pass that after 1645 no King of England ever wanted to visit Cardiff again ( until 1912 ) ...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiff_Castle#17th.E2.80.9318th_centuries

In 1610 the cartographer John Speed produced a map of the castle, and noted that it was "large and in good repair." In 1642, however, civil war broke out between the rival Royalist supporters of King Charles I and Parliament. Cardiff Castle was then owned by Philip Herbert, a moderate Parliamentarian, and the castle was initially held by a pro-Royalist garrison. It was taken by Parliamentary forces in the early period of the war, according to popular tradition by a sneak attack using a secret passageway.The Royalist commander William Seymour, the Marquess of Hertford, then attacked the castle in turn, taking it in a surprise assault. Parliamentary forces and local troops then immediately besieged the castle, retaking it after five hours of fighting and reinstalling a garrison. In early 1645 Mr Carne, the High Sheriff, rebelled against Parliament, taking Cardiff town but initially failing to seize the castle. The King sent forces from Oxford, under the command of Sir Charles Kemys, to reinforce Carne but Parliament despatched a naval squadron to provide support to their forces from the sea. A small battle ensued before the castle was taken by the Royalists.

With the Royalist military position across the country worsening, King Charles himself came to Cardiff Castle that July to meet with local Welsh leaders. Relations between his commander in the region, Sir Charles Gerard, and the people of Glamorgan had deteriorated badly and when Charles left the castle, he was confronted by a small army of angry locals, demanding to be given control of the castle. These clubmen then declared themselves the "Peaceable Army" and increased their demands to include near independence for the region. After negotiations, a compromise was found in which the royal garrison would quit the castle, to be replaced by a local Glamorgan force, commanded by Sir Richard Beaupré; in return, £800 and a force of a thousand men were promised to Charles. In September, Charles returned to South Wales and reneged on the agreement, disbanding the Peaceable Army, but his military position in the region was collapsing. The Peaceable Army's leaders switched sides and forced the surrender of Cardiff and the castle to Parliament in mid-September.

With the outbreak of fresh fighting in 1648, a Royalist army of 8,000 fresh recruits was mustered under the command of General Rowland Laugharne and Sir Edward Stradling, with the intent of retaking Cardiff. Parliamentary forces in Brecon under the command of Colonel Thomas Horton moved quickly to reinforce the castle, although with only 3,000 men they were content to wait until a larger army under Oliver Cromwell could arrive from Gloucester. With time against them, the Royalist army attacked, leading to the battle of St Fagans just to the west of Cardiff, and a heavy Royalist defeat.

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For some " The Peaceable Army " is a touch too romantic - improbable ? ... No ... I just use it as a term for some people that I know very well - but - their idea of " Republican " has been created by over two hundred years of vicious propaganda against political reform by the supporters of The Dis-United Kingdom - you know : the ones who from the 1790s until the 1940s were denouncing your ancestors for pleading for the vote ... the ones whose regular response to anything political involved rifles, sabres, bayonets and truncheons - and still will if we do prise their non-political system out of their cold deadly minds and replace it with something better i.e. a real political system in which the participants are actively seeking to make the best possible decisions by positively seeking out the facts and considering all of the arguments concerning them ... in other words not a Democratic state in my opinion : we have to slaughter that sacred bovine in order to start to be able to clearly define politics as consisting of facts and arguments ... The People in Wales and The World have mostly come to believe that " Democracy means voting " and in America something even worse has happened - they think that " Republicanism means The USA " ... This is very much akin to the idea that " Justice means The Law " or even worse " The Police are The Law " ... when your politicians try to insist on such things it means that they have converted The State from something designed to serve The People into something designed to serve themselves. In a real political system the consequences of legislation and policies are always under review - in the surreal non-political system of The United Kingdom any protest against injustice is being denounced as " wrong " or even " criminal " because " It is against The Law ! " ...

... No : the whole point of our making a law is to describe what we think is wrong and to prescribe the right way to respond to wrongdoing in order to stop it - even if we can not undo the harm already caused : this is unfortunately often the only Justice that we can achieve - amazing though many of The Republicans in Wales and The World are to me I have not as yet heard any report of them restoring anyone to Life ... If somebody is making laws which deviate from the purpose of promoting Justice and insists upon enforcing them despite the evident harm being done to others then their intentions are not lawful - yet in the non-political system called The United Kingdom this is not only happens but is now occurring more and more frequently ... How can we restrain this abuse of The State ? ... The normal Republican answer is " Get a constitution ! " but it is no longer as simple as that : The USA has a famous constitution - strongly constructed almost by providence - yet it has time and again proved to be useless in the face of determined assaults by The Ultraists ... " The USA " has now effectively become a taxidermy exhibit : children are taken to The Smithsonian Museum to stare at a lifelike but lifeless replica of it whereas the real thing may well be hidden in the basement - imprisoned behind steel and concrete - where non-political scientists are studying that seething beast and trying to figure out how to recreate the appearance of it without the danger of it breaking out from every restraint that they have manufactured so far ...

... How did The Ultraists in The USA successfully lure the The USA into the basement of The Smithsonian Museum ? How did They, The People Over By There, come to accept The Ultraist State of America ? Well ... it is not so long a story compared to what has happened in Wales ... In the early days they thought that they had The Republic in America - but they were already a little woolly-minded as to what the difference was between The Republic in America and The USA because of what Jefferson & Co had written on the back of a sheep whose Welsh ancestors had emigrated across The Atlantic a century before ... These flocks thought that they were going to The New World and Doing Good because of The Lies of The Hierocrats who were determined not to be on the losing side of a religious persecution ever again - but in fact they simply recreated The Old World and were Doing Well and so were easy prey for The Hatred of The Democrats ... who licenced The Enslavement of The Aristocrats who were Doing Really Well so they hired The Democrats to start The Un-Civil War and paid The Hierocrats to preach " Jesus wants YOU for a soldier ! " ... War became a very popular game at home and The Hierocrats, Democrats and Aristocrats all had a share in the profits so they were eager to play in a bigger league and so in their wanting The War to be done by professionals they hired The Monocrats and by the time that they had fought three world wars these acquired more power than any of the others and took control of The USA and are now Doing Extremely Well in The Great Game and have solemnly sworn to defend to the very last all of the charred corpses of The People in The World ...

... A " constitution " is a law like any other : it has to be constantly tested against what it is intended to do - and like any law if does not pass that test you do not hang onto it out of sentimentality : you scrap it ... but of course you have to have an idea as to what to do after you scrap a law - and whilst the options afterwards may be boundless the actual amount of agreement about how to replace constitutional laws will most probably be tightly bounded ... For the most part laws represent the existing social conventions and whilst these may be lacking in justice it is the fact that they are widely understood and well rehearsed that makes them difficult to change : long before a law is changed an older understanding and a convention otherwise publicly acclaimed have to be replaced e.g. homosexuals used to be widely reviled but gradually they became tolerated and are now loved and admired and so - presumeably in order to try to win the votes of The People in LGBTXYZ - The Democrats in Wales are buggering everybody and anybody e.g. if you make a submission to the commission and it bears the word " Republican " on it or contains a Republican argument they will promptly put it through the shredder and deny that they ever received such a thing and declare that there are no Republicans in Wales - or that if there are any then they must be criminals because " Republicans are against The Rule of Law ! " ... The Democrats in Wales do not even know what the word " Democracy " means - let alone know what " Nomocracy " is - " The Rule of Law."

[ PLEASE SELECT YOU OWN FOUR LETTER WORDS AND WRITE YOUR OWN RANT HERE AGAINST THE UTTER IGNORANCE OF THE DEMOCRATS IN WALES ]

... This much was obvious to The Cardiff Illuminati thirty odd years ago - that The United Kingdom is designed to resist any kind of political reform : every time that we think that we have won a concession it turns out that The Democrats in Wales and Westminster have deceived us e.g. " Devolution " has not won Wales or Scotland more control over our nations' affairs - quite the opposite : these constitutional arrangements have now resulted in stronger central controls being constructed by the supporters of The Dis-United Kingdom to bind us to it. It is not however as if Wales is about to cut free and float away to any sunnier climbs or other bitter economic prospects : Britain is an island and everybody living on it is more or less inter-dependent and needs each other - but what we do not need is this useless non-political system The Dis-United Kingdom which is setting us all at each other's throats because it has been constructed to serve the private interests of The Aristocrats who select to elect The Democrats ... Republicanism and Nationalism however are not the same thing : Republicans do not think that The Independence of Wales is a political solution - indeed if The Assembly in Wales is a foretaste of independence let us debate collective suicide as a remedy next - solutions which are political have to reflect the relationships between The People ... in other words political solutions can not be based upon sentimentalities about geography, language, culture etc : political solutions require us to imagine new laws to describe the new relationships between The People and so the reason why we have to get rid of The Dis-United Kingdom is because it is a non-political system which is designed to prevent us from doing this - to prevent anyone from anywhere doing anything political ...

... In other words if we want to have a political system which enables us to even have the opportunity to solve any of our problems we have to design it to withstand The Ultraists in Wales and The World - all those attempting to subvert The State in Wales by using their various methods of coercion and who are either acting alone or in concert : The Hierocrats telling Lies, The Democrats cultivating Hatred, The Aristocrats practising Slavery, The Monocrats waging War - these are bringing Death to The People in Wales and The World ... now it may be that some of you reading my rants recognise that I have just listed " The Four Estates " in a slightly re-arranged order and whilst thinking that I must be a crank to have returned full circle from Post-Modernist Republicanism to one of the very earliest versions of Renaissance Republicanism you must surely wonder " Why ? " ... The answer is that " The Model " draws upon many more things than that and it is much more complicated than I have ever disclosed on " Y Repwblic " - and way over a year ago I made up a leaflet using various diagrams from the arguments which went into The Model and then froze : I felt that it makes The Model look too simple ... and my fear is that somebody will snatch at it and abuse it - and without " The Book " in print they would be difficult to refute ... but on the other hand ... I think that The Model promises to provide The Infantry of The Peaceable Army with both a religious compass and a political map ...

... but a compass can not decide your destination - nor can a map decide the place of your departure.

" The Model " is a more realistic view of politics : it contains the bare necessities of Life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ogQ0uge06o

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Obviously I can not leave this alone today : as you can see I have the bare necessities of Life - in a modern society - and I have decorated the kitchen with this child's windmill which I adored the minute that I saw it ... How about this : not only a suitable symbol for ' The Revolution ' but its colours are in the same order as in The Model ( i.e. the two dimensional aspect of it - The Model is designed to depict politics in four dimensions.)



Of course Sian and Gethin are not going to very happy with the idea of a windmill as a symbol of Republicanism in Wales ... anyhow - three minutes left of the day : here is a proem what I just rote ... Oh - buy the bye : you do know that the concept of " Revolution " in Renaissance Republicanism is closely associated with Fortuna and her " Wheel of The World " ? ... It is not by accident that there is a Tarot card which features " The Wheel of Fortune " - Tarot is derived from the children's educational games which featured The Four Seasons. Before some hustler duped superstitious fools into believing that it was a mystical fortune telling game it was a not at all mysterious - it is about The Four Estates and the political intrigues around the " Rota " which was then the highest court around whose legally binding decisions The World ( of Christendom ) turned - " Rota " means " Wheel." TRY GOOGLING " The Wheel ( Wheel of Fortune ) - Ancient Tarot of Liguria-Piedmont "

The Winds of Change possess no will_And The Wheel of The World spins like a mill :_It will grind us down to make its meal -_For it does not think ... it does not feel -_Unless we stand at The Axis - to continue still ...


The Winds of Change possess no will_
And The Wheel of The World spins like a mill :_
It will grind us down to make its meal -_
For it does not think ... it does not feel -_
Unless we stand at The Axis - to continue still ...

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts the moral right - not to sue for copyright !


[ I THINK THAT I HAD BETTER QUALIFY THAT BEFORE I AM ACCUSED OF BEING A NEO-NAZI - AGAIN - " THE AXIS " IS OTHERWISE " THE POLE STAR " WHICH STANDS STILL AT THE HUB OF " THE WHEEL OF THE WORLD " WHICH IS OTHERWISE THE CIRCLE OF THE ECLIPTIC OR - IF YOU HAVE A MYSTICAL DISPOSITION - THE ZODIAC ... THE FACT IS THAT IN THE 20C CORPORATISTS, FALANGISTS, FASCISTS AND NAZIS ALL RAIDED REPUBLICANISM AND CLOTHED THEMSELVES IN REPUBLICAN WORDS AND SYMBOLS WHICH WERE ONCE HELD IN COMMON ALL ACROSS EUROPE - AND THEREFORE ALSO IN WALES ... E.G. THE FASCES WITHOUT THE AXE WAS VERY POPULAR AS A DECORATIVE SYMBOL IN METHODIST CHAPELS ... THE EAGLE IS A COMMONPLACE IN ANGLICAN CHURCHES AND FEATURES IN THE HERALDRY OF BRECON CATHEDRAL AND ... OH BUGGER ... AM I GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE THIS TO YOU NOW ? ...

... PERSONALLY ONE OF MY FAVOURITE REPUBLICAN STORIES IS HOW BARCLAYS BANK - INTERNATIONAL COMMERCIAL PRIVATE CAPITALISM'S STANDARD BEARER - CAME TO ACCIDENTALLY ADOPT " THE BLACK EAGLE " : THEIR HEADQUARTERS AT 54 LOMBARD STREET ORIGINALLY HAD NO STREET NUMBER BUT THAT SIGN WHICH WAS OVER THE DOOR ... THIS HAD BELONGED TO ELIZABETH AND GILES CALVERT'S PRINT SHOP IN THE 17C AND VIRTUALLY EVERY RADICAL PAMPHLET PRINTED DURING THE REPUBLIC HAD ON THE TITLE PAGE THE WORDS " PRINTED ... AT THE SIGN OF THE BLACK SPREAD EAGLE ... " ... THIS IS A HUGE JOKE FOR ME : BARCLAYS MIGHT AS WELL HAVE CHOSEN THE HAMMER AND SICKLE BECAUSE THE CALVERTS' BEST-SELLING AUTHORS WERE LEVELLERS, DIGGERS, RANTERS, QUAKERS - AND WILLIAM ERBERY !!! ... " THE BLACK SPREAD EAGLE " WAS THE EAGLE OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE : THE THIRD REICH WAS NOT AN EMPIRE - NOT ROMAN - AND NOT HOLY - OK ? ... BUT THE NAZI ASSOCIATIONS OF BARCLAY'S 17C " BRITISH " BLACK SPREAD EAGLE BECAME SUCH A LIABILITY IN EUROPE THEY GAVE IN AND CHANGED BOTH THE COLOUR AND THE DESIGN : SO BARCLAYS BANK NOW USES A BLUE SQUASHED PIGEON ... ]


http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-ERBE-WIL-1604.html = http://www.ylolfa.com/en/newyddion.php?ID=485

http://www.calverts.coop/co-operative/at-the-sign-of-the-black-spread-eagle

https://www.home.barclays/about-barclays/history/lombard-street.html

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The Church in Wales' Swansea and Brecon diocese website - http://swanseaandbrecon.churchinwales.org.uk/

No - I could not leave this alone : I have fancied sticking that Swansea and Brecon Church in Wales Diocese's eagle on a whole wheel for several weeks now ... hell - 05.15 am ??? ... There are no good drawings of this heraldry and the eagle's stance varies between them : I tried looking for the blazon ( the written description ) but turned up none ... The diocese seems to not like these arms any more because they do not appear on its website - replaced by quite a nice logo ...



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DAFYDD : YOU ALLEGE THAT I AM NOW AN " ISLAMIC PLATONIST ? " & YOU WANT A REPUBLICAN THEORY BASED ON CLASS ? - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bqGXdh6zb2k

= IF PEOPLE ARE TO DEFEND YR IAITH ON OTHER THAN A SENTIMENTAL BASIS WE NEED TO EXPLAIN KANT'S TRANSCENDENTALISM TO THEM - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bfkfBoTQN4I

= & IF YOU HATE PLATO THEN ERGO SOME YOU LOVE BERTRAND RUSSELL - ( WELL AT LEAST HE WAS WELSH ? ) - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8bo3fTH6m8

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Here I am laid up in bed again - aching and sweating - so I decided to listen to Bertrand Russel's Reith Lectures of 1949 : these are from before he became prominent politically and I can not help but feel that they seem to record a way of thinking which is about to collapse in the face of the Post-Modernism ways of thinking which must already be erupting all around him ... In a way the Post-Modernist implications of what he was thinking in the 1940s are there hovering in the air like spirits which he was summoning towards himself but not providing with the means to materialise : these lectures are about " Authority and The Individual " and he comes grindingly close to what ought to have been obvious to him as a philosopher and mathematician - that human beings whether collectively or individually can not possess authority themselves but can only cite the facts and arguments upon which it rests ...

... Those who think that authority is acquired by being ordained as Hierocrats, or getting elected as Democrats, or acquiring wealth as Aristocrats, or seizing control as Monocrats are only imitating political authority not possessing it : I am about to write that we are curspantomime politics in the same way that The Democrats in Wales are cursed with pantomime politicians in the same way that The Republicans in Wales are cursed with pantomime paramilitaries : they are all imitators of things which they do not understand ... It is like watching one of those old military parades in Stalin's USSR where they would have a thousand generals and colonels etc at the front studded with various trinkets and not one of them had ever witnessed a battle or even had any military training let alone as officers ... Stalin actually did have many competent officers who knew the facts and arguments as to why The Red Army had collapsed in 1941 - but these involved pointing out the incompetance of The People in The Communist Party i.e. Stalin ... So having listened to their criticisms they had all of the most experienced officers in The Red Army killed - because they possessed real political authority because they possessed the facts and arguments which exposed the fact and the argument that The People in The Communist Party had no real political authority ... And Bertrand Russel in his third Reith Lecture of 1949 very nearly says this -

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uC0Z5kM79lI - Bertrand Russell (Part 3 of 6) Authority and the Individual: The Role of Individuality

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Oh dear - Dafydd disagrees ... you ought not Daf : your own arguments rely upon what I am describing [ text which just arrived from Daf - ]

You are the very model of a salafistic Platonist
You think each felon only earns a tiny slap on wrist
But poor and Jews and women all deserve a hacked off wrist
Proscription time, you'll be another rat on list

Abolishing Democracy, your heroes Alcibiades
Khomeini and bin Laden and Herr Hitler, you admire these
And anyone who disagrees you want to set fire these
I curse thee by the high Gods, Titans, Hyades and Pleiades

= Daydd ap Geler Thomas = The Beloved Leader of The Central Committee of the Cardiff Proletariat


... Daf ... that has the rhythm of a certain song ... but it does not in my voice scan ...Do you mind if I infringe your copy for the rite ?

You are the very model of a salafistic Platonist
You think each felon only earns a tiny slap upon wrist
But poor and Jews and women all must deserve a hacked off wrist
Proscription time, you'll just be another rat upon our list ... !!!

Abolishing Democracy, your heroes Alcibiades
Khomeini and bin Laden and Herr Hitler, you admire all these
And anyone who disagrees you want to set on fire all these
I curse thee by the highest Gods, The Titans, Hyades and Pleiades.


[ For our foreign readers - Daf is parodying the following Gilbert and Sullivan song and thus damning me as a " Modern Major General " - and this is also a double-damnation because after they had purged The New Model Army of the religio-political radicals demanding King Jesus and Democracy they seized power from The President of The Republic John Bradshaw in 1653 and declared Oliver Cromwell " Lord Protector " of The Commonwealth " since he was the leader of their " Blue Faction " ( " The True Blues " ) military coup. Cromwell for a period exercised his power through appointing The Major Generals who were pious godly folk with guns who were instructed to impose order as they saw fit ... as I have done by amending Daf's rhyme ... listen to now to various actors wrestling with the voicing of the original words in Gilbert & Sullivan's operetta ... ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSGWoXDFM64 - I Am the Very Model of a Modern Major-General

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1dy44jV8EM - Major-General The Pirates of Penzance (Subtitles)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs3dPaz9nAo - Major-General's Song from The Pirates of Penzance - live and with lyrics! [ HAS THE CLEAREST DICTION ]

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... and Richard has called by as I am writing and commented about the word " commissariat " being referred to in " The Pirates of Penzance " and that not only is its alternative name " The Slave of Duty " but that it was at the centre of a copyright row ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirates_of_Penzance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major-General's_Song

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_the_Major-Generals - The Rule of the Major-Generals

" The Rule of the Major-Generals from August 1655 – January 1657, was a period of direct military government during Oliver Cromwell's Protectorate. England was divided into ten regions each governed by a major-general who answered to the Lord Protector. ... Cromwell appointed the Major Generals soon after he had news of the defeat of the expedition to Hispaniola (commanded by William Penn and Robert Venables), reached London in late July 1655. He felt that this defeat was God punishing him for not trying to make England a more religious, godly place. ... Like Cromwell, the Major Generals were committed Puritans (Congregationalist reformers with Calvinist leanings). Part of their job was to try to make England more godly. They clamped down on what they considered to be rowdy behaviour (such as heavy drinking, music, dancing and fairs). They even tried to stop Christmas celebrations. Not surprisingly, the rule of the Major Generals was not popular. ...

[ James Berry was the Major-General who governed Wales - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Berry_%28major-general%29 ]

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There have been many parodies of " The Modern Major-General " Song -

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bWs7TXCy7uI
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6hKG5l_TDU8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ElFL4CrDMIY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3x2SvqhfevE
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5rGpIlmYUo =>> Davis Gloff sending up Donald Trump Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that I might mention that Richard later sent me this quote -

Some Cicero 😎

[32] But I must explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing of a pleasure and praising pain was born and I will give you a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great explorer of the truth, the master-builder of human happiness. No one rejects, dislikes, or avoids pleasure itself, because it is pleasure, but because those who do not know how to pursue pleasure rationally encounter consequences that are extremely painful. Nor again is there anyone who loves or pursues or desires to obtain pain of itself, because it is pain, but occasionally circumstances occur in which toil and pain can procure him some great pleasure. To take a trivial example, which of us ever undertakes laborious physical exercise, except to obtain some advantage from it? But who has any right to find fault with a man who chooses to enjoy a pleasure that has no annoying consequences, or one who avoids a pain that produces no resultant pleasure?

[33] On the other hand, we denounce with righteous indignation and dislike men who are so beguiled and demoralized by the charms of pleasure of the moment, so blinded by desire, that they cannot foresee the pain and trouble that are bound to ensue; and equal blame belongs to those who fail in their duty through weakness of will, which is the same as saying through shrinking from toil and pain. These cases are perfectly simple and easy to distinguish. In a free hour, when our power of choice is untrammeled and when nothing prevents our being able to do what we like best, every pleasure is to be welcomed and every pain avoided. But in certain circumstances and owing to the claims of duty or the obligations of business it will frequently occur that pleasures have to be repudiated and annoyances accepted. The wise man therefore always holds in these matters to this principle of selection: he rejects pleasures to secure other greater pleasures, or else he endures pains to avoid worse pains.

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So - Dafydd and others are finding my 2013 departure off into The Lost Worlds of Pure Republicanisms mostly a pain and not much pleasure ?
Well of course my ascent into infinity and beyond ought to be at least be brought back into some orbit closer to earth.and then discussed over a pot of tea ... and nobody - please - is to take this without the biscuits ... Republicanism in Wales without tea and biscuits is simply unthinkable ... I think ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot

" ... the celestial teapot or cosmic teapot, is an analogy, coined by the philosopher Bertrand Russell (1872–1970) ... He wrote that if he were to assert, without offering proof, that a teapot orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, he could not expect anyone to believe him solely because his assertion could not be proven wrong. ... "

Above I mentioned Bertrand Russell = https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z5JQjcSfUO0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_paradox

" ... Russell's paradox (also known as Russell's antinomy), discovered by Bertrand Russell in 1901, showed that some attempted formalizations of the naive set theory created by Georg Cantor led to a contradiction. The same paradox had been discovered a year before by Ernst Zermelo but he did not publish the idea, which remained known only to Hilbert, Husserl, and other members of the University of Göttingen. ... In 1908, two ways of avoiding the paradox were proposed, Russell's type theory and the Zermelo set theory, the first constructed axiomatic set theory. Zermelo's axioms went well beyond Frege's axioms of extensionality and unlimited set abstraction, and evolved into the now-canonical Zermelo–Fraenkel set theory (ZFC). The essential difference between Russell's and Zermelo's solution to the paradox is that Zermelo altered the axioms of set theory while preserving the logical language in which they are expressed (the language of ZFC, with the help of Skolem, turned out to be first-order logic) while Russell altered the logical language itself. ....

... In 1923, Ludwig Wittgenstein proposed to "dispose" of Russell's paradox as follows :

" The reason why a function cannot be its own argument is that the sign for a function already contains the prototype of its argument, and it cannot contain itself. For let us suppose that the function F(fx) could be its own argument: in that case there would be a proposition F(F(fx)), in which the outer function F and the inner function F must have different meanings, since the inner one has the form O(f(x)) and the outer one has the form Y(O(fx)). Only the letter 'F' is common to the two functions, but the letter by itself signifies nothing. This immediately becomes clear if instead of F(Fu) we write (do) : F(Ou) . Ou = Fu. That disposes of Russell's paradox. (Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus, 3.333) "


[ BUT ACTUALLY THE PROBLEMS OF THE PARADOX CONTINUED TO EXIST AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY FRUITFUL IN THE NEW IDEAS DEVISED TO SOLVE IT ]

" If the "List of all lists that do not contain themselves" contains itself, then it does not belong to itself and should be removed. However, if it does not list itself, then it should be added to itself. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grelling%E2%80%93Nelson_paradox

" ... The Grelling–Nelson paradox arises when we consider the adjective "heterological". One can ask: Is "heterological" a heterological word? If the answer is 'no', "heterological" is autological. This leads to a contradiction, for in this case "heterological" does not describe itself: it must be a heterological word. But if the answer is 'yes', "heterological" is heterological. This again leads to a contradiction, because if the word "heterological" describes itself, it is autological. ... "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barber_paradox

The barber is the "one who shaves all those, and those only, who do not shave themselves." The question is, does the barber shave himself ? ... Answering this question results in a contradiction. The barber cannot shave himself as he only shaves those who do not shave themselves. As such, if he shaves himself he ceases to be a barber. If the barber does not shave himself then he fits into the group of people who would be shaved by the barber ( and, so, as the barber he needs to shave himself.)

[ NOW ONE SOLUTION TO THE BARBER PARADOX WAS THAT THE BARBER IS A WOMAN AND SO DOES NOT SHAVE HERSELF : BUT THIS EXPOSES THE KINDS OF CONTRIVED DEFINITIONS USED IN SUCH PARADOXICAL STATEMENTS - AND - THE SOVEREIGNTY PARADOX WHERE IT IS CLAIMED THAT SOME INDIVIDUAL OR GROUP MAKING THE LAWS MUST BE OUTSIDE OF THE SET OF PEOPLE BEING BOUND BY THOSE LAWS : THIS IS THE NONSENSE WHICH IS PROFESSED BY ULTRAISTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF THEMSELVES NOT BEING ACCOUNTABLE TO THE LAW ... BUT BY DEFINITION IN ORDER NOT TO BE MERELY A BILL OF ATTAINDER A LAW MUST BE UNIVERSALLY APPLIED - SO IF AN EXCEPTION IS CREATED FOR A CERTAIN CLASS OF PEOPLE OR PERSON IT AUTOMATICALLY ENDS THE UNIVERSALITY OF THOSE LAWS INFRINGED AND THEREFORE A SINGLE EXCEPTION ENDS THE RULE OF LAW ... A FALSE CLAIM FOR POLITICAL AUTHORITY IS MADE WITH A PLAUSIBLE ARGUMENT WHICH CONTAINS AN OPERATION WHOSE EXECUTION CAN NOT BE PERFORMED AND TESTED AND WHICH RESULTS IN PARADOXES - I.E. " SOVEREIGNTY " IS A COSMIC TEAPOT.]


So what about those who wielded The National Razor ? ... "Sovereignty " asserts that those who " guard " The State are above The Rule of Law ... fancy that ... well I do not !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror#The_Terror

" ... In June 1793, the sans-culottes, exasperated by the inadequacies of the government, invaded the Convention and overthrew the Girondins. In their place they endorsed the political ascendancy of the Jacobins. Thus Robespierre came to power on the back of popular street violence. ... Meanwhile, on 24 June, the convention adopted the first republican constitution of France, the French Constitution of 1793. It was ratified by public referendum, but never put into force; like other laws, it was indefinitely suspended by the decree of October that the government of France would be "revolutionary until the peace" ... On 5 February 1794, Robespierre told the Convention " Terror is nothing else than justice, prompt, severe, inflexible. ... If the basis of popular government in peacetime is virtue, the basis of popular government during a revolution is both virtue and terror; virtue, without which terror is baneful; terror, without which virtue is powerless. Terror is nothing more than speedy, severe and inflexible justice; it is thus an emanation of virtue; it is less a principle in itself, than a consequence of the general principle of democracy, applied to the most pressing needs of the patrie." ... "

SO ... ROBESPIERRE THE " LAWYER " AND " DEMOCRAT " TRASHED " THE RULE OF LAW " AND WITHOUT BEING ELECTED HE OBTAINED THE " SOVEREIGNTY " ?

" Sovereignty " proves to be nothing but the will to do violence - it consists of seizing control of The State and using it to pursue a private interest whilst pretending that to be The Public Interest - and so any claim of " Sovereignty " results in conflict both with other private interests which have to be bought off and with the majority in the rest of society who are necessarily impoverished for the purposes of doing so by corrupting the laws ... or in the case of The United Kingdom maintaining the appearance of justice on paper whilst ensuring that nobody can enforce The Law - not even The State itself ... and lest anybody can find the money to pursue a legal matter up into The Supreme Court of The United Kingdom - it turns out that is a futile exercise because it is not " supreme " at all and nor is Parliament or even The Cabinet ... The Prime Minister of The United Kingdom can ignore all of the facts and arguments and over-rule any judgment ... not even The Monarchy possesses " Sovereignty " because although titular head of the armed forces which constitute The Monocracy the heads of the military forces know whom they have served for over three hundred years - The Aristocrats who founded The Bank of England to pay for the ships which fought the wars which conquered the colonies from which the companies in The City of London extorted the wealth which created the capital that they then invested in The Industrial Revolution to enable their stocks and share holders to live off the dividends of ... The Welsh Empire ... uh ? ... You thought that " The British Empire " was English ? ... Certainly not - now let me find the short cut ... ( ... yes - I know ... but this is not as wild a goose chase as you might imagine ... ) ...

---- oh oh : too many ideas now floating around on the backs of envelopes for this ----

As you all know I have taken an interest in The Spiritual Revolution which is spreading through Monotheism after its encounters over the past two centuries with Polytheism ... hence when I heard that somewhere in North Wales there was an extremely aged but sprightly man I packed my Welsh dictionaries and phrase books and set off to find out whether it is possible to live forever on welfare ... I had a fair amount of difficulty in communicating with the North Walians' who typically greeted me with " Ei-wp Wac ! " and other words which I could not find the meaning of even by looking them up on-line in the GPC ... But eventually I encountered a person who seemed to understand me and in gesticulating wildly led me to understand that there was a place called " Treble ? " which really ought to have been in the guidebook along with LF-PG because it is very unusual in Wales to have a place name with a question mark in it ... I do not think that Cardiff can count because this is just a city with a question mark over it ... Eventually at the top of a dead-end valley between two disappointed mountains I discovered a typical Welsh village in the saddle consisting of a derelict chapel with an overgrown car park and a pub leaning drunkenly against a wall nearby whose dull windows were casting a wary stare in my direction and examining me in the light of the forty watt bulb hanging over the door ...

... As I approached I could barely make out the picture upon the fissured wooden sign which creaked upon its hinges - yet there was no wind to disturb it : the picture was mostly weathered away but still visible was a fist which grasped thick twisted strands of dark hair beneath the words " THE KING'S HEAD " ... I ventured in but saw nothing but the dust and dirt of centuries and beneath them piles of yellowing pages and I was about to leave when there was a careful cough from within the wings of a small settle which had been drawn up close to a fire which still glowed but consisted of little more than an ember ... " Would you care to pull yourself ? " muttered a voice from a mouth already pre-occupied " Mine's a bitter - with half a pint of cream sherry in it : if the bottle is empty you can buy one in the corner shop ... " ... I was spellbound ... " Are you ... are you ... the - the very very old man of the mountains ? " ... I asked ... " No - he died a very very long time ago : I am the very very very very very - oh hell - etcetera / whatever - THE old man of the mountains - I have outlived them all ... and I will outlive you too if you don't go see to my pint ... " ... I was awestruck ... I hurried to find some pint glasses and as I did so he spoke again " NOT THOSE ONES - THE OTHER ONES : THE BEAKERS !!! " ... I picked up the strange pots ... " WASH THEM OUTSIDE !!! " ... I hurried out of the place in terror and took them to the ford where I dipped them in quickly and then looked up to find my eyes locked upon the pale shrouds of a woman rising up from the - the - the - the - the door was slammed behind me before I took another breath ... With shaking hands I took up a dusty bottle upon the bar and read upon it " Club 1832 Sherry " and being unable to see through the dark glass I pulled out all of the stopper to look inside ... and when the inside looked back out at me I hurriedly held it over a beaker ...

... Sweetness poured out into the pottery and then stopped abruptly - either because it was half full or half empty ... I am inclined to believe that it was the latter - and then I placed it beneath the pump and bitterness poured out and foamed with age until the pot was full ... There was only one pump upon the bar and so I had but one choice and put my art before the house and tried to pull the other one ... The pump spluttered at first as if with indignation and then my beaker filled to the brim and overflowed with the white stuff - and so I milked this for all it was worth ... I took the beakers to the guttering emberside and sat on the stool in front of my host who held up his crock and with a flick of his forefinger spattered the hearth before him which then sputtered and spurted into flames which swiftly took hold of the remaining coal and passed from it into the others until we sat as before the flaring glare of the mouth of a red dragon roaring as if angry at not having been awoken before ... The building all around us was being shaken as if to its foundations ... so in the most casual possible manner I asked my host as to whether he could help me in my quest - to discover whether it is possible for anyone to live forever on welfare ... " No " he replied ... " Oh " I said ... " Er ... May I ask how you have come to live to such a great age ? ... You see I have often wondered about whether I should - " ... " STOP WHITTERING ON ABOUT IT - IT IS NOT GREAT TO BE OLD !!! "

" I have so few pleasures left to me - a song, a poem, a reminiscence - but the rest of me is all aches and pains ... " - " Well - I mean - the problems of old age can of course be alleviated with diet and exercise and good company and - " - " Oh - oh ! - THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE COME HERE IS IT ? TO GIVE ME ADVICE ? " - The exceptionally very old man was now incandescent and began to smoke - " Listen - LISTEN ! - I am now ... now ... I forget how old I am ... I remember the woolly mammoths ( I still have some in the freezer - you can't each one of them all at once you know ) - and the Neanderthals ( forget what those archaeologists say - they were not musical ) - and that Stone Age lot ( there never was a " new " Stone Age - that was just a publicity gimmick ) - The Beaker People were alright ( in as much as whilst their goods were overpriced they always threw in a beaker or two as a free gift ) - The Celts were downright dodgy ( but I got on with The Druids because they imposed The Rule of Law on the buggers ) - The Romans however were in my experience a pain in my a posteriori ( and one minute they were celebrating Cicero and the next they were not only committing every crime against The Natural Law that we could imagine but also inventing crimes which we had never imagined ! ) - and then The Britons couldn't decide whether they wanted to be Celts or Romans and that is probably why The Jutes, Angles and Saxons knocked them off so easily ... " ... " Well ... um ... that is I suppose a sort of historical analysis but - "

" OH - SHUT UP : THE PEOPLE IN THE MODERN WORLD KNOW DIDDLY-SQUAT !!! ... I was there ... When The Britons found out that they were The Welsh when they had thought that they were Y Cymry - and proud of it - and they were just getting used to this when The Normans arrived on a busman's holiday in order to do a little leisurely looting having crushed The English - who prior to this thought that they were Anglo-Saxons - but it turned out that they were just passing through on their way to take a bite out of The Irish since it had proved more than they could chew when they tried to take a bite out of The Scots - who prior to this thought that they were The Britons ... The Irish also proved difficult to swallow and so The Normans took another look at The Welsh as a more suitably sized meal ... with a strong ethnic flavour whose literature they found useful : The Welsh told them all about how although they were conquered they would rise again because really not only Britain but all of Europe belonged to them because their legends had told them all about The British Empire ... Shortly after this The French told The Normans to get out of France because they were The English and The Normans strongly objected and told them that they were The Britons and that The British Empire meant that Europe belonged to them and they told The French all about King Arthur ...

... The French were not impressed and kicked The English out of Europe ... but they liked the story of King Arthur and decided that he was French not English and The Welsh protested ineffectually that he was a Briton ... The English decided that whatever they were they were definitely not French and got rid of Richard II for being too French and replaced him with Henry IV who turned out to be too English for The Welsh who then decided to have Owain Glyndwr for their prince because he was definitely not French or English and even if they could not decide whether they were The Welsh or Y Cymry or The Britons they definitely decided to put King Arthur's Golden Dragon on Y Faner Wen ... This did not quite work out as well as Y Cymry hoped : The English decided that they ought to teach The Welsh that they were worse than The French ... which The Welsh bitterly resented and so went to France to prove that they were not ... in retaliation The French supported Henry VII who carefully calculated that The Welsh would want to prove that they were better than The English too ... Once Henry VII had overthrown Richard III he set about grounding his claim to the throne of England on the basis that it was part of The British Empire ruled by King Arthur - and named his eldest son and heir Arthur who promptly died of embarrassment so his dad made his second son marry his brother's wife but they had no children ... So Henry VIII needed a divorce and in order to get one he needed to deny The " Sovereignty " of The Pope over The Church in England which he did by arguing that The Church in Wales had not been subject to Rome and that he was the heir of King Arthur and therefore The Emperor of The British Empire ...

... The Scots were not pleased with this because they knew that they were The Britons and therefore The King of Scotland was The Emperor of The British Empire ... but they did not have to fight for it because The Queens of England died without heirs and so The King of Scotland became The King of England and the Ultraist laws against The English and The Scots were mutually repealed because they were all British now - but the laws against The Welsh ( and The Irish ) were not and The True Britons were furious because The British Empire was Welsh and they kept on making a fuss about this for twenty years until The Scots and The English agreed that The Welsh could be British too ( but not The Irish.) Before long everybody wanted to be British - The Peoples in both North and South America, The Caribbean and The Pacific, Australia and New Zealand, India and China, Africa and Antartica ( except The Irish.) ... The British Empire however was unlike any other " empire " because the word basically means " The Rule of Law " and when Henry VIII shrugged off The " Sovereignty " of The Pope he instituted his own " Sovereignty " by tearing down all The Rood Screens in churches which presented God as being above The Rule of Law and replaced them with pictures of himself - Henry VIII - possessed with the attributes of God ... especially the divine attribute of " Sovereignty " ... and so having replaced God with himself Henry VIII embarked upon his long career in crime by declaring that like God he could not be brought into a courtroom - because as The Emperor of The British Empire he now possessed the divine power of " Sovereignty " and in order to demonstrate this " Sovereignman " decided to have a pop at the Papists - and so he went out and conquered The Welsh ... yeah - we know that we had already been conquered several times already ... but that is not surprising because Wales is a wonderful country and naturally those who have visited once usually want to come back. ...

... Ever since then I have had to endure many pains to obtain but a few pleasures and - " ... " But how come you are still here ? It is an amazing story but it does not explain why ! " ... " Fine - fine ... I will reveal the secret to you ... I once got so fed up - a long time ago - that I decided to go to Ap Meurigfa ... actually with a guy called Madoc who claimed that he was The True Prince of Wales and made me this amazing all-in offer of a new start in that fabled far-off land : he had been there already and he made it sound marvelous - so I went along with him and ... well it seemed to me at the time to be an extraordinary long voyage ... Madoc missed Ap Meurigfa completely and we ended up in China where I met this druid ... well obviously he was Chinese - but he was the same sort of obsessive type - and he was so obviously old I asked him the same question that you are asking me : he lectured me on Ping and Pong and the importance of how to hold the paddle and how to hold my Chi ... " - " ... And ? " - " Well if you just sit comfortably with your eyes closed I will teach you the simple technique which he taught me. " - " Like this ? " - " Yeah - that will do : now exhale thoroughly and then take a deep breath ... " - " MmNee ee ? " ... " Yes - now breath out ... and breath in ... and breath out ... and breath in ... and - DON'T STOP ! "
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[ a text exchange more typical perhaps of Republican conversations.]

Royal Prerogative : see words of Lord Oliver in Rayner (Mincing Lane) v DTI (1990) 2 AC 418, 462 Love, xxx

Thanks : here is the 5th lecture by Bertrand Russel - in an earler one he made the distinction Republican v Democrat = https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RHKMw8QP3vE

By the way Daf - feel free to write the rest of that shaggy dragon story - ?

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[ Listening to the 6th lecture - text to a Conservative ]

Hi - I have not spoken with you for a while & am listening to this & think you will like Bertrand Russell's approach = https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm799Doapa4

... and now ... I think that I am now going to relax with more youtubes about Bertrand Russell ... these are amusing ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDg4rpGwIx0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bZv3pSaLtY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand_Russell

Bertrand Arthur William Russell, 3rd Earl Russell, OM, FRS (/ˈrʌsəl/; 18 May 1872 – 2 February 1970) was a British philosopher, logician, mathematician, historian, writer, social critic, political activist and Nobel laureate. At various points in his life he considered himself a liberal, a socialist, and a pacifist, but he also admitted that he had "never been any of these things, in any profound sense". He was born in [ Trellech ] Monmouthshire into one of the most prominent aristocratic families in the United Kingdom. ... In the early 20th century, Russell led the British "revolt against idealism". He is considered one of the founders of analytic philosophy along with his predecessor Gottlob Frege, colleague G. E. Moore, and protégé Ludwig Wittgenstein. He is widely held to be one of the 20th century's premier logicians. With A. N. Whitehead he wrote Principia Mathematica, an attempt to create a logical basis for mathematics. His philosophical essay "On Denoting" has been considered a "paradigm of philosophy". His work has had a considerable influence on mathematics, logic, set theory, linguistics, artificial intelligence, cognitive science, computer science (see type theory and type system), and philosophy, especially the philosophy of language, epistemology, and metaphysics. ... Russell was a prominent anti-war activist; he championed anti-imperialism and went to prison for his pacifism during World War I. Later, he campaigned against Adolf Hitler, then criticised Stalinist totalitarianism, attacked the involvement of the United States in the Vietnam War, and was an outspoken proponent of nuclear disarmament. In 1950 Russell was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature "in recognition of his varied and significant writings in which he champions humanitarian ideals and freedom of thought".

... in 1916, he was dismissed from Trinity College following his conviction under the Defence of the Realm Act 1914 ... The Trinity incident resulted in Russell being fined £100, which he refused to pay in hopes that he would be sent to prison, but his books were sold at auction to raise the money. The books were bought by friends; he later treasured his copy of the King James Bible that was stamped "Confiscated by Cambridge Police". ... Very Happy ... A later conviction for publicly lecturing against inviting the US to enter the war on the United Kingdom's side resulted in six months' imprisonment in Brixton prison in 1918. ... Russell opposed rearmament against Nazi Germany, but in 1940 he changed his view that avoiding a full-scale world war was more important than defeating Hitler. He concluded that Adolf Hitler taking over all of Europe would be a permanent threat to democracy. In 1943, he adopted a stance toward large-scale warfare, "Relative Political Pacifism": War was always a great evil, but in some particularly extreme circumstances, it may be the lesser of two evils. ... just after the atomic bombs exploded over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Russell wrote letters, and published articles in newspapers from 1945 to 1948, stating clearly that it was morally justified and better to go to war against the USSR using atomic bombs while the USA possessed them and before the USSR did. After the USSR carried out its nuclear bomb tests, Russell changed his position and advocated for the total abolition of atomic weapons ... [ OH DEAR ... A PRAGMATIST ] ...

... In 1948, Russell was invited by the BBC to deliver the inaugural Reith Lectures—what was to become an annual series of lectures, still broadcast by the BBC. His series of six broadcasts, titled Authority and the Individual, explored themes such as the role of individual initiative in the development of a community and the role of state control in a progressive society. ... When he was given the Order of Merit, George VI was affable but slightly embarrassed at decorating a former jailbird, saying, "You have sometimes behaved in a manner that would not do if generally adopted". Russell merely smiled, but afterwards claimed that the reply "That's right, just like your brother" immediately came to mind ... In September 1961, at the age of 89, Russell was jailed for seven days in Brixton Prison after taking part in an anti-nuclear demonstration in London, for "breach of peace". The magistrate offered to exempt him from jail if he pledged himself to "good behaviour", to which Russell replied: "No, I won't." ... Russell was asked by The New Republic, a liberal American magazine, to elaborate his views on world peace. He suggested that all nuclear-weapons testing and constant flights by planes armed with nuclear weapons be halted immediately, and negotiations be opened for the destruction of all hydrogen bombs, with the number of conventional nuclear devices limited to ensure a balance of power. ... In October 1965 he tore up his Labour Party card because he suspected Harold Wilson's Labour government was going to send troops to support the United States in Vietnam. ...

... Russell died of influenza on 2 February 1970 at his home, Plas Penrhyn, in Penrhyndeudraeth, Merionethshire, Wales. His body was cremated in Colwyn Bay on 5 February 1970. In accordance with his will, there was no religious ceremony; his ashes were scattered over the Welsh mountains later that year.

[ TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE THERE IS NO MONUMENT IN WALES TO BERTRAND RUSSELL - YET HE IS PROBABLY OUR MOST FAMOUS REBEL .... AND ARGUABLY A REPUBLICAN ? ... (P.S. - " The New Republic " magazine was founded in 1914 and is the very successful American remnant of " The New Republicanism " which began in England c1900 and after World War One produced the ethos which led to " The Open Conspiracy " whose successful remnant is " The Open University " < ! > So - in " The United Kingdom " there is a modern institution inspired by Modernist Republicanism.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bertrand_Russell#Republican.3F

Bertrand Russell : Republican ?

Bertrand Russell is categorised under English republicans but no sources proving this are given throughout the article. Dr Harare (talk) 08:44, 19 February 2015 (UTC)


http://www.openculture.com/2013/03/bertrand_russells_ten_commandments_for_living_in_a_healthy_democracy.html

Bertrand Russell’s Ten Commandments for Living in a Healthy Democracy

1: Do not feel absolutely certain of anything.

2: Do not think it worthwhile to produce belief by concealing evidence, for the evidence is sure to come to light.

3: Never try to discourage thinking, for you are sure to succeed.

4: When you meet with opposition, even if it should be from your husband or your children, endeavor to overcome it by argument and not by authority, for a victory dependent upon authority is unreal and illusory.

5: Have no respect for the authority of others, for there are always contrary authorities to be found.

6: Do not use power to suppress opinions you think pernicious, for if you do the opinions will suppress you.

7: Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

8: Find more pleasure in intelligent dissent than in passive agreement, for, if you value intelligence as you should, the former implies a deeper agreement than the latter.

9: Be scrupulously truthful, even when truth is inconvenient, for it is more inconvenient when you try to conceal it.

10. Do not feel envious of the happiness of those who live in a fool’s paradise, for only a fool will think that it is happiness.


https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/britain/probs/russell.htm

Problems of the British Revolution - Appendix 2 : Bertrand Russell - Trotsky on Our Sins

" Trotsky’s new book is one of the most interesting that I have read for a long time ... What is more important is his complaint that the Labour Party lacks a coherent theoretical outlook. Take, for example, the question of Republicanism. ... To proclaim a socialist programme, and at the same time declare that the royal authority “does not hinder” and works out cheaper, is absolutely the same as, for example, acknowledging materialistic science and making use of the incantation of a sorcerer for toothache, on the ground that the sorcerer is cheaper. ... To hope to achieve Socialism without Republicanism is the sort of thing that could only occur among English-speaking people; it would hardly be possible for men with any profound knowledge of history, or any understanding of the economic and psychological links between different institutions. ... "


As far as I am concerned Bertrand Russel advocated facts and arguments against populism = a Republican stance - against Democracy.

[ " Why I am not a Christian " - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0F6J8o7AAe8 - Bertrand Russell's criticisms of Hierocrats are generally applicable and I mostly agree with his sentiments there - excepting that like Richard Dawkins he equates honestly conducted religion with dishonestly conducted Hierocracy I.e. he does not recognise that religion is the natural and necessary activity of higher animals in developing and transmitting our understanding of The World. Both reacted to corrupt religious upbringings and thus failed to recognise that they themselves were still doing religion and still doing it badly - whereas Freud, Trotsky, Goebbels and Saatchi did understand how to propagate their ideologies - and I think that Wesley was right ... or was it Watts ... or Luther ... or Hill ... Jagger ? ... " Why should the Devil have all the best tunes ? " ... " What I mean is ... ' Just do as I say - not as I do ! ' - as Our Great and Glorious Leader Daf preached to us once as we carried him home in The Wheelbarrow." ]


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess that it is always going to be a problem to re-package and sell again such basic non-commodities as " Truth, Love, Freedom, Peace & Life " to the more effluent parts of society - local or global - but there are examples of people trying to do so and I just came across these - and although I do not think that their use of " ? " as a symbol is working here never the less I do think that The Republicans should be constantly challenging The Democrats empty claims to have any answers when their " answers " are merely gimmicks to advertise themselves to be elected ... Basically the majority of The People in Wales may agree upon The Common Sense in Wales - but of course you do not win elections by persuading the sane majority but by bribing the insane minority whose marginal votes decide who wins or loses in Democracy ... You really do not like my arguments about Republicanism V Democracy ? ... Consider this : in first past the post electoral systems such as we have in Wales who gets to win the election - the party that has spent several years in collecting facts and listening to The People and preparing arguments on their behalf - or the party that tells the biggest lies and offers the biggest bribes to obtain those handful of votes which result in themselves being elected ? And hey - they do not worry about this not working at the next election : it always works - that is how we got Thatcher and Blair and Cameron - so face up to the facts folks ... Democracy is plainly not a political system - but it is plainly stupid, plainly selfish, plainly dangerous to our society.

THE BLACK EYED PEAS - " Where is the Love ? "

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YsRMoWYGLNA

From what I am hearing about their plans to not only fine and imprison those of us who now want to refuse to endorse this continuing farce of " Devolution " and " The United Kingdom " by refusing to register to vote because The Democrats in Wales and Westminster have been claiming that The Electoral Register provides them with a so-called " Democratic mandate " when they can not collectively - all five elected parties together - obtain the endorsement of 50% of The Registered Voters in most constituencies - and many more are still not registered ... so The Big Plan is ... ? ... not only fining and jailing those who do not consent to have their names stolen and placed on a register to vote but also those whom The Democrats have registered to vote but who have not in fact voted e.g. those names which they have registered to vote which turn out to belong to those too young to vote, too foreign to vote, too absent to vote ( in foreign places ), too dead to vote, too fictitious to vote, too badly spelled to vote e.g. when lines of computer code are found to be registered to vote ... political systems are founded upon the consent of those participating ; non-political systems necessarily resort to coercion because the non-politics of the successively increasing stages of political incompetence in Hierocracy, Democracy, Aristocracy, Monocracy leads to successively increasing stages of denial - until the political crisis is blatent at which point there is a revolution and one stasis is exchanged for another e.g. Democrats get panicky and are replaced by Aristocrats who smoothly assure The People that businessmen, bankers and corporations will run their country so much better ... note that they talk about " country " because they think of politics in terms managing property not serving society. ... The change from Democracy to Aristocracy is clearly now under way across The World ... but whichever kind of Ultraists you are dealing with you will find them blaming The People for whatever goes wrong - and The Altruists who expose their faults will be declared criminals ... they may even be denounced as " Republicans " ... roll on the day ...
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26/09/16 - I had a thick wad of legal documents shoved through the letter box last week and much as I would like to elaborate a detailed plan for others to consider I must see to it.

Please read proper Republican material and ignore anything that the Britshits say about us.

I have neglected this useful thread - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=299

QUESTIA HAVE A SPECIAL INTRODUCTORY OFFER AT THE MOMENT - $1 for a month

https://www.questia.com/library/2946022/republicanism-a-theory-of-freedom-and-government

- AND SOMEWHERE OUT THERE IS A FREE ONLINE COPY OF WHAT HAS BECOME THE STANDARD TEXT ( WHICH IS PUBLISHED BY OXFORD UNIVERSITY PRESS.)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Republicanism-Theory-Freedom-Government-Political/dp/0198296428

Republicanism : A Theory of Freedom and Government (Oxford Political Theory) - Phillip Pettit - Oxford University Press - ISBN-10: 0198296428

This is the first full-length presentation of a republican alternative to the liberal and communitarian theories that have dominated political philosophy in recent years. The latest addition to the acclaimed Oxford Political Theory series, Pettit's eloquent and compelling account opens with an examination of the traditional republican conception of freedom as non-domination, contrasting this with established negative and positive views of liberty. The first part of the book traces the rise and decline of this conception, displays its many attractions, and makes a case for why it should still be regarded as a central political ideal. The second part of the book looks at what the implementation of the ideal would require with regard to substantive policy-making, constitutional and democratic design, regulatory control and the relation between state and civil society. Prominent in this account is a novel concept of democracy, under which government is exposed to systematic contestation, and a vision of state-societal relations founded upon civility and trust. Pettit's powerful and insightful new work offers not only a unified, theoretical overview of the many strands of republican ideas, but also a new and sophisticated perspective on studies in related fields including the history of ideas, jurisprudence, and criminology.

[I.E. IF YOU WANT TO DO CONVENTIONAL REPUBLICAN DEMOCRATIC POLITICS.]


ANOTHER PROMINENT MODERN WRITER ON REPUBLICANISM IS QUENTIN SKINNER

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Liberty-before-Liberalism-Canto-Classics/dp/1107689538

Liberty before Liberalism (Canto Classics) - Quentin Skinner - Cambridge University Press - ISBN-10: 1107689538

This extended essay by one of the world's leading historians seeks, in its first part, to excavate and to vindicate, the neo-Roman theory of free citizens and free states as it developed in early modern Britain. This analysis leads on to a powerful defence of the nature, purposes and goals of intellectual history and the history of ideas. As Quentin Skinner says, 'the intellectual historian can help us to appreciate how far the values embodied in our present way of life, and our present ways of thinking about those values, reflect a series of choices made at different times between different possible worlds'. This essay provides one of the most substantial statements yet made about the importance, relevance and potential excitement of this form of historical enquiry. Liberty before Liberalism is based on Quentin Skinner's Inaugural Lecture as Regius Professor of Modern History in the University of Cambridge, delivered in 1997.
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Oh ... shit ... I think that it is one of those " publish and be damned " days ... please remember that this is truly an ill-considered act ... like Theresa May reaching for " Sovereignty " so she does not have to face The Demockerats in Westminster and do any politics ... I think that she is just a front for her husband and his mates in The Bankers - the political representatives of The Aristocrats in ... The World ? ... No ... unlikely - they are probably just in The Caribbean ... Monte Carlo ? ... I am sure that we would all much prefer to see Theresa May gambling with her own life and her own money : after 363 years of gross venality and 262 years of astounding stupidity I think that it finally time for The People in Wales to join in once again in renewed efforts to be rid of not merely the words " The United Kingdom " but what they conceal.

I was so miserable yesterday - about The Demockerat in Theresa May reaching for " Sovereignty " - that I lay in bed all morning writing these ...





















POST SCRIPT - going to bed 04.20am Sunday - the diagram on page 10/10 is a version of " The ( 3D ) Model " and there are debates about " handedness " with all four versions ... the geometric solids are visual expressions of the arithmetical tabulations involved - but the algorithms ...

Rolling Eyes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_the_Friends_of_the_People

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_United_Irishmen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_the_United_Scotsmen

http://www.blackwellreference.com/public/tocnode?id=g9781405184649_yr2011_chunk_g97814051846491507

United Englishmen

The United Englishmen was an underground revolutionary society that existed in England between about 1796 and 1802 and which sought to overturn the government by means of a coordinated insurrection in England, Ireland, and Scotland. The foundations for the United Englishmen were laid after attempts to seek political reform through constitutional avenues were unsuccessful in the first half of the 1790s. Following the passage of the repressive Two Acts in 1795, sections of the English democratic movement shifted their tactics to a more physical force approach to promoting reform. In this climate, a reinvigorated United Irish society was able to find willing recruits in England. Political tours by United Irishmen in the winter of 1796–7 helped disseminate the prospect of insurrection and foster an interest in establishing societies modeled on the Irish example. Many English radicals, particularly in the northern manufacturing districts, were lured by the opportunity offered through the United movement and the first cells of the United Englishmen were established in late 1796.

SOD ! - NO TIME TO READ THIS TONIGHT : LOOKS GOOD -

https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/S0020859000008221

BUT WAS THERE A " UNITED WELSHMEN " ? ... I PREFER TO BELIEVE THAT FOR UNKNOWN REASONS THE WELSH OUTFIT CHOSE TO NAME THEMSELVES " THE UNITED BRITONS " ... I.E. WAS IOLO INVOLVED ? - WHY ? - BECAUSE HE USED THAT SORT OF VERBIAGE - AS DID THESE GUYS !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanny_Imlay

" ... In early October 1816, Imlay left Godwin's house in London and committed suicide on 9 October by taking an overdose of laudanum at an inn in Swansea, Wales; she was 22. The details surrounding her death and her motivations are disputed. Most of the letters regarding the incident were destroyed or are missing ... "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Imlay

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Godwin

Nation and Migration: The Making of British Atlantic Literature, 1765-1835 - By Juliet Shields

[ quotations from a literary discussion of - Gilbert Imlay's novel " The Emigrants " ( 1793 ) ] ... " ... Thus The Ancient Britons came to symbolise liberty and resistace to tyranny despite Wales' status as an internal colony ; Wales came to connote the primitive and pastoral despite its rapid industrialization ; and the American West became the bastion of an ancient British republicanism ... " ... [ and William Godwin's novel " Imogen " ( 1784 ) ] ... " ... depicts the ancient British inhabitants of the valley of Clwyd ... evokes the republican thought of Thomas Jefferson and also of seventeenth century writers like James Harrington and Andrew Fletcher ... "

The main point to impart is how everybody was cooperating - national borders seem to have countd for little in comparison to personal loyalties and fierce friendships ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Coigly ... " ... A United Irishmen, he worked at improving Catholic and Presbyterian relations. Coigly traveled to England and Paris, where he was involved with the United Britons and with James Napper Tandy ... "

http://ludditebicentenary.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/10th-april-1812-constitution-of-united.html

SO : WAS THIS FAKED ? - " .... The United Britons, or United Englishmen, were a secret organisation of Jacobins. The recovery of their paperwork from near to the site of what is arguably the West Riding Luddites' greatest triumph has been commented on by several historians, and used as evidence to illustrate the complex composition of the Luddite movement ... " ( - I THINK THAT THESE PAPERS ORIGINATED IN WALES )

Later on there were " United Britons " Friendly Societies e.g. " The Order Of United Britons Friendly Society " ( 1860 - 1950 )

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10pm the evening after the above which was posted circa 1pm ... and - hEy - bUcKy ! ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgfrvZ-SxPQ ...

... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fhnkkzk9oo ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ3DXDONKmQ ... ( but I can not find his Model )

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" SHORT CUT " >>> I have tried various searches tonight but I still can not find the famous clip in which Bucky demonstrated the two principles underlying " space-framing " in which he used a tetrahedron made by tying together the ends of stringy lengths of elastic and a cube made by linking together the ends of stiffy lengths of wire ... if you have never seen this before then I recommend that you make one for yourself to amaze your friends and to frighten The Democrats in Wales with - it is neat trick for The Republicans in The World ! ... Shall I tell you or let you figure this out for yourself ? ... All those who do want to find out for yourselves - DO NOT READ THE REST OF THIS PARAGRAPH ... Aw - C'MON ... You lazy buggers ... oh - alright then ... BUT DO NOT TELL HER THAT I TOLD YOU ABOUT THIS : I REFUSE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR CRIMINAL ACTIONS ... go through your wife's knickers drawer and down at the bottom of it you will find her best knickers - her weddings and funerals ones, so she will not miss them for a long while - and anyway later I will tell you how to attempt to repair them afterwards ... you will need six pairs of her knickers : make sure that you are wearing a lumpy thick jumper so you can safely smuggle them past her whilst she is busy multi-tasking with the remote control - oh ... and do not do this whilst there are any small pink frilly nieces in the house because they possess extra-sensual perceptions and will appear at unexpected moments ...

... On the other hand small blue dirty nephews can usually be trusted at moments like this - so long as you can endure being lectured on The Periodic Table and The Battle of Jutland for several hours : it is best to take the boy up the shed with you in case your suddenly feigned interest in The Lesser Known Fruit Bats of The World alerts your wife - or ( even worse ) - another female member of her family to the fact that you have stopped writing ... ... ... SEE : NOW THEY KNOW THAT YOU ARE UP TO NO GOOD ! ... ... ... I advise you to go for PLAN B : take the boy down the pub - give him all of your loose change for the bandits - avoid the other bandits ( the ones who wear badges I mean - not our lot ) - and spike his shandy with brandy just to be sure : tell his mother that he had a bad cough and that you only gave him it because it was " medicinal " - DO NOT ON ANY ACCOUNT TELL HER THAT HE HAS BEEN SNEAKING YOUR CIGS !!! - You will need a second pair of hands so ring up Al because he will be - on that damned computer still ? ... Ring Phil instead because - oh ... Well ring the other Phil and ... Rant ? ... Pem ? ... What about " Bug-Eyed-Dave " ... and - oh - ah - GIVE UP : JUST RING DAFYDD - and try to keep him off the subject of Moritz and The People's and The Dwarves' and The Elves' and The Witches' Grand Duchessy and Republic of Galborg ...

... Of course - as soon as Dafydd arrives all the wheels will fall off his bicycle and two of them just have to burst into flame and run away whilst the third will lay there cowering as he shouts at it ... Dafydd's approach to bicycles is simply not revolutionary and so you will immediately doubt the wisdom of asking him for help : fortunately he has brought a hammer with him in order to straighten out the borrowed elastic - and a scythe to trim your sticky stiff bits with ... go and hide in the yard - Dafydd will want to smoke and The Landlady in The Public House will already be certain that something must be wrong and be asking her friends for your wife's number ... lay out your materials and tools, write a specification and schedule and try to obtain at least three estimates from those sat at the tables around you ... ignore The Engineers' advice and molly-coddle The Surveyors ... tender your proposal to The Builders - but do not wait for their answers : they know nothing anyway - and will always try it on after you have started ... Lay down The Foundations and Take The Piece out of each of them - you should have six lengths : tie three together making them into a loop and then spread them apart and at ther other ends repeat the same exercise incorporating the remaining three and you will get a floppy pyramid - The Tetrahedron ... The Pyramid of De Light ... the most perfect of The Salifistic Platonic Stolids ..

.... I assure you that even if Dafydd bashes this with his hammer it just will not stand up - comedian eh ? ... What Dafydd can be bashing with his hammer is one of Paul's umbrellas which have been piled up in the corner of The Public House for years with a pink sticky attached declaring that these are his property and that he will be returning for them very shortly : umbrellas are an excellent resource for extracting sticky stiffy stuff from ... you will need twelve of them ... no - not umbrellas ... The Spokes ... strip off all of the superfluous bits and take each point and turn and Twist and Shout until you have made The Eye in each and then link them together - again, three to each corner - to make The Cube ... which like any member of The Parliamentary Party of The Democrats in Westminster simply will not stand up by itself even once after you have erected it - whichever of its faces are turned towards you .. NOW COMES THE MYSTIC BIT ... get Dafydd to be your assistant in staging this stunt : he likes dressing up in sequins and feathers ... HOOK THE FIRST LOOP OF THE FIRST KNOT ONTO THE FIRST CORNER - THEN HOOK THE REMAINING THREE LOOPS ONTO THE DIAGONALLY OPPOSITE CORNERS OF THE FACES WHICH ADJOIN THAT FIRST CORNER - AND THEN BOTH THE TETRAHEDRON AND THE CUBE WILL JUST SPRING INTO SHAPE : THIS IS HOW SPACE FRAMES WORK !!! ...

... Oh ... yours did not work ? ... Well it is supposed to ... you see the vertices of The Tetrahedron are " Truth, Love, Freedom and Peace - " - " and Life " is not counted there amongst them because Life is either the result of living by those values or The Source of Truth, Love, Freedom and Peace - but either way these four values are associated with The Creator of Life in The Four Houses of Monotheism so if you prefer your version of Republicanism to use the idea of " God " you can consider how to insert it here - either residing in The Centre of The Model or pervading all of it ... - I prefer " The Nomos " - " The Natural Law " - because " The Laws of Nature " can be investigated using those scientifical methods which are seeking to discover " The Theory of Everything " - which in turn leads into the challenges of " Operationalisation " ... however ... The Tetrahedron can not be held in shape unless it is stretched out - by being hooked onto four corners of The Cube when the Consciousness which it represents - " Operation : Action - Sensation - Emotion - Cognition - ( Re- ) Action etc " is no longer collapsed and screwed up within The Closed Hand of those who hold it ... Without an unfolding Consciousness you are dead : you may be performing the actions that lead others to think that you are alive - but ... A person who is without Consciousness of Life will not be paying attention to the consequences of how they are performing their Operations in The World ... and will be most likely practising " Lies, Hatred, Enslavement and War " upon others - " and Death " will follow both for others and themselves : we are all bound up together in The World ... But how can we discover The Truth ? ... How can we find The Love ? ... How can we give The Freedom ? ... How can we make The Peace ? ... How can we create The Life ? ... It is all very well listing these five things and saying that these are the most basic elements of " Religion " - but surely these choices are just " dai's " choices ? ...

... Well - yes : these are my choice of values to insert into " The I-RA : Ideo-Rational Analysis " which is actually value-free - it is basically my ten-point check list to make sure that in discussing a counselee's particular thinking about their problem their counselor is checking how it is being presented to them : what do they mean by what they say ? ... Do they know what they are talking about or are they unable to name it all ? ... The major four questions to consider are to do with four distinctly different types of consciousness which belong to literally different parts of the nervous system which have evolved in this order - Action, Sensation, Emotion, Cognition : counselees can not think about things which they can not become conscious of and so in PCP counseling we have two main approaches to that problem ... one is to teach people how to examine how their own ideologies work so that they can take responsibility for their own lives and have the courage to experiment with new Actions, Sensations, Emotions, Cognitions ... and the other is to hope for the best : there are too many variables and the therapeutic role of a PCP counselor is to be a skilled and sympathetic advisor - but not a wet-nurse ... mind you - there are some real tits out there - whom I am ashamed to tell you I helped to certify as counselors : because I suffer from a somatic ( not a psychological ) disorder which keeps me up all night trying to keep you all amused - but which results in my being grumpy and uncommunicative in the daytime - I chose not to try to make a living as a counselor but to occasionally use my skills to try to help those in most need of them : counseling rooms are full of self-preoccupied and half-educated middle-class people who have no serious problems but are willing to pay skilled professionals to fleece them ... in contrast of course the most traumatised victims of The United Kingdom are pre-occupied with poverty and everything which results from it which includes not being able to think straight because they are in states of permanent distress : these are The People in Trouble whom I tend to wet-nurse - even though I myself am one of them - but PCP counseling is useless for helpless, homeless, hungry, drug-addicted criminals ... nor apparently does it work on The Democrats in Wales and The World.

I was accused this weekend of being " middle-class " - ! - I am but myself : as you are too ... if you do not accept other adults upsetting your children when they experiment with their new ideas about who they are - successively playing " little mother " - " rock star " - " pony princess " - " world's greatest footballer " - " cool chick " - " earnest student " - " young professional " - " too young to be a father ! " - " Mother of All Suckers ! " " Too Tired to be The Godfather ! " - " WE ARE NOW THE DEMOCKERATS' WORST NIGHTMARE : REPUBLICAN PARENTS - THE ENEMY WITHIN THE SCHOOL GATE " - " Sit down please - your daughter can play there in the corner : we have a lovely - " - " NO SHE CAN NOT : WE ARE WELSH REPUBLICANS - NOT LOUSY ' REPUBLICANS IN WALES ' LIKE YOU - AND WE DO NOT HOLD WITH CASTLES OF ANY KIND : THOSE THINGS ONLY GIVE CHILDREN MONSTROUS IDEAS ! " - " Oh - er ... such as ? " - " LOOK : OUR MEGAN STARTED CYLCH MEITHRIN RECENTLY - THEY HAVE A CHRISTMAS PARTY AND SHE WANTS TO GO TO IT DRESSED LIKE ALL THE OTHERS - AS A PRINCESS !!! "- " Er ... um ... and ? " - " THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH HER - SHE NEEDS HER HEAD EXAMINED : TALK TO HER - USE YOUR OPERATIONALISATION THINGY ! " - " Well - er ... um - I would not advise that to be honest ... but - could I ask you a question first ? " - " WHAT ? " - " Why ? " - " !!! " - " Er ... " ... " ??? "

The values which I have inserted into " The Model " were derived from Monotheism - I am a long term adherent of Quakerism which is the only respectable version of Monotheism in which you can freely draw from the literature of all of and more than " The Four Major Houses of Monotheism - Zoroastrianism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam - and its many minor houses like Sikhism, Mandaeanism, B'haism etc " - and I am pleased to report that things are as I always suspected - " Truth, Love, Freedom, Peace, Life " are at the core of every religion : these values are in fact the necessary ones to adhere to preserve your own sanity and everyone one else's. I think that this was already implied in the first book that I read of any proper theory of psychology - so you need not think of these as coming from Religion at all if you like but from " Logotherapy " - which is all about the counselee's search for meaningfulness - in which " gods " are optional extras. I recognise that there are a number of similar experiences recorded by The People in The World but explained in different ways in different cultures : I accept that what is being described as real - I have occasionally had such experiences myself - but I do not accept that there is any agreement between those who explain these using the word " god " because that turns out to be essentially an empty " black box " into which a series of Hierarchs can stuff their own stuff : basically I do not hold with glove puppets for gods.

On the other hand I do hold with carefully designed gods displayed in " glass boxes " and available for examination in order to decide how they have been put together - and by whom and for what purposes ... It was my interest in manufacturing " gods " which led me to investigate Republicanism because the original theories were explicitly stating that in order to have a successful Republic you need to embody, display and propagate its values by conducting The Religion in Public i.e. this was an important measure used to prevent anybody from taking the first step into Ultraism by establishing a Hierocracy to suppress any criticism of those already in power : A Civic Religion is both about The State publicly asserting the right to question the morality of those who have control over it and - actually doing that publicly ... Which was exactly the problem for my generation which came of age circa 1980 : on the one hand anybody can think what they please in The United Kingdom - provided that they do not say what they think publicly - but on the other hand prior to 1980 there was a lot more soul-searching and questioning in the most public medium - television ... decade by decade the supporters of The United Kingdom have closed down The Public Discourse in Wales apparently intending that by a combination of mis-education and dis-information they would leave The People in Wales without the means to think about either Religion or Politics ... but then came the internet and having not anticipated that poor people would get hold of computers they got a nasty shock : did they really think that we had forgotten how miserable they made us ?

" The Ideo-Rational Analysis " is basically a psychological tool derived from " Personal Construct Psychology " which is a very sophisticated investigatory sort of psychology which uses - or rather tries to use and fails to use - repertory methods to painstakingly dissect a counselee's belief system and so assist them to re-construct it by designing and performing experiments meaningful to themselves - not the counselor ! ... Please take my advice : if you need a psychological intervention on the National Wealth Service ask for a Personal Construct Psychologist - the counselee is always in control ! ... And that is what we need to be aiming for in " Y Repwblic yng Nghmru a'r Byd " - putting The People in Control of The State - with The Nomocrats possessed of no power over The State other than that prescribed by The Rule of Law : like The Kings in Chess - virtually unable to move at all due to The Rules in The Game and utterly dependent upon the other pieces' manouvres to win, but The Game is still not over until their opponents plant The Nomocrats in The Grave ... only to find that The Nomos is The Ground which they have dug The Grave in : The Divine Law of The Cosmos can not be broken like The English Law - which just is broken ... if this year they plant The Seed in The Ground of Wales and The World - then next year they will have to harvest The Corn ...

... As they have discovered to be the case with ISIS : in ploughing up The Ground in Iraq they predicted a bountiful harvest of Democrats ... but as they ought to know - what they sow ... is Chaos ! ... Which is why Republicanism excludes violence from politics - except for one purpose only : for a defensive war to stop Monocrats using violence to further political ends ... and that - in case you do not know this - is why Y Faner Du was first raised in 1831 : because the resolutely peaceful protesters who were rallied around Y Faner Wen refused to disperse even when the soldiers fixed their bayonets and put cartridges into their guns - they even tried to reason with the soldiers and of course that is when Dic Penderyn fatefully walked up to one of the soldiers and took hold of the bayonet to make him point the gun upwards and not level it at women and children ... that was when the order to open fire was given - that is why he was hanged : because as an unarmed man upholding The Rule of Law against The United Kingdom he took his place beneath Y Faner Wen ... which fell that day in the screaming Chaos as The Monocratic soldiery advanced in front of the ranks of The Democrats and The Aristocrats - shooting volley after volley as the crowd scrambled through the narrow streets before them as the soldiers bayoneted the wounded left on the ground and then smashed down hastily barricaded cottage doors to find the walking wounded who had been given refuge by The People in Merthyr Tydfil ... and so when Y Faner Wen rose in defiance once again from the pools of blood in those narrow streets it become Y Faner Goch ... and then when the ambushes began and guns were seized by The People in The Valleys all hell broke out as those seeking to be avenged against the supporters of The United Kingdom raised Y Faner Du over The Tollgates - and The Gallows at The Fork in The Open Road ... but it was Dic Penderyn who was hanged in their stead ...

[ >>> MAN AT WORK HERE : PLEASE CHOOSE SOME OTHER DETOUR >>> ]

( typo'ing that at 04.00 am - what a mess : I hope that I remember the rest of it ... tomorrow ? ) ... ( And the following day ( Sunday ) I have ... tinkered with the above and made it worse - sorry ! )

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... Apart from the fact that Dafydd - who is the clever one believe it or not - has as yet not produced any solutions for the " Operationalisation " ( i.e. turning The Words into The Numbers so that political arguments can be turned from rhetorical hypotheses into equations and experiments ) ... the main thing that concerns me about The Model is that it will be subjected to a smash and grab exercise : it may look deceptively simple - my slogan " Truth, Love, Freedom, Peace and Life " merely arranged as a pretty diagram ... but it is not ! ... This has gone through a prolonged evolution - indeed recently a revolution - and it was originally two separate projects -

( a ) around my mid-teens forty years ago I felt that whilst most religions are doubtful - to say the least - religion is obviously a common human activity and it has its roots in common human experiences so it must be addressing something : I initially chose to believe that this was what is commonly called " spirituality." Presently I understand our " Spiritualities " to be tracing out the pattern of our Emotional experiences in response to our Sensational experiences e.g. although a rapist may appear to be devoid of what is conventionally understood by " spirituality " in our society - as being of a sweet disposition with dreamy ideals - the fact is that a rapist's behaviour is conditioned ( not necessarily in the same way for each rapist ) by his or her Sensational history and the Emotional history which results from it : sensory violence followed by emotional neglect result in Spiritualities as much as sensual caressing and emotional nurturing result in Spiritualities ... Take for example the disclosures of sexual abuses by " ministers of religion " where grown adults are finally getting to have the opportunity to remember and explain things - and still can not put them into words because nobody ever gave them the words and they do not know them : these " ministers of religion " probably did not even know the words themselves or possibly did not even have any idea that what they were doing was wrong ... You can choose to blame either victims or perpetrators but it is more useful to understand what went wrong and then fix it - which you are unlikely to be able to do by hospitalising the victims or jailing the perpetrators although this may limit any further harm ... What went wrong ? ... Religion went wrong : it became a vehicle for Hierocracy - and by " Religion " I mean making sense of The World in order to devise ideologies useful in The Life of The People e.g. The Tooth Fairy - Jesus Loves You - Republicanism is The Best Thing Since Sliced Head ...

... I am not even sure that I should let myself make my answer so simple by arguing that " The Hierocrats " Sub-verted " Religion " - but I will argue this for the purpose of explaining The Model ... Let me talk more generally : some adults agree upon a Cognition ( i.e. agree upon an idea ) and as a consequence of the Cognition they repeatedly perform an Action upon a child who has a repetition of a Sensation which results in the same Emotion which distresses them ... the child can not escape from being Dominated by the adults and constantly anticipates them repeatedly performing the Action which then repeats the Sensation which repeats the Emotion which distresses the child whose Emotion is explained away by the adults with the Cognition which they agree upon e.g. " Her mother was a whore therefore she blah blah blah ... " ... What is devastating for these children is not only that they can not run away from these adults but that the only idea offered to them - which these adults will force upon them citing their own authority to do so - is the Cognition which leads to the Action which leads to the Sensation which leads to the Emotion which leads back to the Cognition which leads to the Action which leads to the Sensation which leads ... to the child accepting this Operation of Cognition, Action, Sensation, Emotion : the Spirituality of the child will be one full of fear, pain, anger and shame - and the child will tell me ( as the child's Personal Construct Psychology counselor ) that there is nothing wrong with this ... which frankly leaves me seeking the psycho-analyst's coach and pleading for some strategy for dealing with such a situation : Logo-therapy ? ...

... The Model had its origins in those two psychological theories - and indeed it can be argued that all modern psychological theories have their ultimate origins in " Ideology " - the remedy proposed for the violent excesses of The French Revolution by Antoine Destutt de Tracey : he was the first to propose a scientific study of how belief systems are constructed and what they contain in order to not punish criminal behaviour but instead to teach The People in France how to be Citizens and Citizennes of The United Republic and - oh dear ... unfortunately the person that he proposed it to was Napoleon Bonaparte who said something very rude about him - which canard Karl Marx slavishly repeated and so poor old Destitute Tracey died impoverished and was never heard of ever again until Michel Foucault ... Just like poor old Jean-Baptiste Lamarck who went to Napoleon Bonaparte with an idea about why giraffes have long necks and how they were originally molluscs and ... everybody has heard of Sigmund Freud and Charles Darwin but - well - look : they were good eggs, old man ... NOT REPUBLICANS ... true Sigmund Freud was a bit iffy - but as soon as he stepped upon the soil of Good Old Blighty he became a staunch supporter of The United Kingdom and gave up all of those nasty foreign habits like thinking too much - or at least he was decent enough to confine himself to remarking about the weather.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Baptiste_Lamarck - AN " IDEOLOGUE " I.E. A FOLLOWER OF -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_Destutt_de_Tracy - WHO WAS REDISCOVERED BY -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Foucault - WHO IS OFTEN QUOTED - E.G. IN BOOKS LIKE THIS - -

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=NvUoCgAAQBAJ&dq=The+Rich+Get+Richer+and+the+Poor+Get+Prison:+Ideology,+Class,+and+Criminal&source=gbs_navlinks_s

The Rich Get Richer and the Poor Get Prison: Ideology, Class, and Criminal Justice - Jeffrey Reiman, Paul Leighton

" ... The authors show that numerous acts of the well-off - such as their refusal to make workplaces safe, refusal to curtail deadly pollution, promotion of unnecessary surgery, and prescriptions for unnecessary drugs - cause as much harm as the acts of the poor that are treated as crimes. However, the dangerous acts of the well-off are almost never treated as crimes, and when they are, they are almost never treated as severely as the crimes of the poor. Not only does the criminal justice system fail to protect against the harmful acts of well-off people, it also fails to remedy the causes of crime, such as poverty. This results in a large population of poor criminals in our prisons and in our media. The authors contend that the idea of crime as a work of the poor serves the interests of the rich and powerful while conveying a misleading notion that the real threat to Americans comes from the bottom of society rather than the top. ... "



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I CAME BACK TO TYPO THIS AND FOUND MULTIPLE COPIES FROM WRITING IT LAST NIGHT : I SUSPECT THAT THIS IMPLIES ONLINE SURVEILLANCE ( AN ILLEGAL ADSL TAP ) BECAUSE I WAS NOT USING A WIFI CONNECTION : NINE COPIES WERE CREATED AS I WORKED ?

FURTHER POST SCRIPT : I THOUGHT THAT I WOULD TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WAS THE CORRECT COPY BELOW AND THEN DELETE THE REST OF THEM - BUT THAT HAS PROVEN TO BE BEWILDERING : I AM NOW EXHAUSTED BY THIS GATHERING HYPERTHYMIC PEAK WHICH WAS KEEPING ME AWAKE - LUCKY YOU TO BENEFIT FROM MY ILLNESS !!! - BUT TO HELP YOU OUT - BECAUSE I GUESS THAT YOU TOO ARE BEWILDERED BY ALL OF THIS - I AM GUESSING THAT THE LAST POST IS THE BEST ONE AND SO I AM GOING TO ADD TO IT THE COVER SHEET WHICH I CREATED TODAY FOR SOME PAPER COPIES - " Y LLAW AGORED " WITH THE FINGERS AND THUMB MARKED WITH " THE RIGHT HAND PATH OF DEXTEROUS POLITICS - TRUTH, LOVE, FREEDOM, PEACE AND LIFE " ... NOW : SURELY YOU REALISE THAT WHAT YOU ARE VIEWING ARE SOME PAPER PARTS OF A DISCUSSION WHICH IS TAKING PLACE WITHIN " THE CARDIFF ILLUMINATI " - ? - EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS PROVISIONAL AND - AS YOU WITNESSED AT CBRD 2010 - EVERYTHING WE DO IS ALWAYS A HAPPY SHAMBLES : WE DO NOT WANT TO OWN IT BUT TO IMPROVE IT !!!

IN OTHER WORDS : THESE DOCUMENTS ARE FOR EVERYBODY - THIS IS " O/C " - " THE OPEN CONSPIRACY " - OR - IF YOU PREFER KRANKY - " O/K " - " DE 'OPIN' KONSPIRASI " - TO REMOVE THE ART FROM SINGING THE MARSALAYS !!!






... Well ... we all make mistaks do wi nut ? ... Although I disclosed these to a few others some years before I openly and ardently started to declare this anti-Democratic creed I have been hanging on to these diagrams lest they over-simplify things and are simply grabbed by others and used to justify the kinds of criminal acts that I disapprove of : what I am prepared to endorse are those acts which challenge an unjust law being enforced for the sake of this blind legalism which characterises the " power politics " ( which is an oxymoron ) of The Democats in Wales and Westminster who have reduced the business of politics - of making laws - to what amounts to a hypocrisy - " If we call it a law then it is justice ! " ... This reduces the concept of political authority to that of thuggish violence - which of course is one of the original Republican arguments against Democracy : that it is Mobocracy. ... The Democrats claim that winning such things as elections or referendums by one vote means that they have acquired a " mandate " - or have even " won " a political argument - and therefore have the right to do as they please : it is after all just a matter of having the knack of getting The People in Wales to vote correctly - by telling them lies, scaring them out of their wits, getting them to vote by post long before they get to hear about any awkward facts, or - the new innovation - not bothering with obtaining a mandate by voting but claiming that The Electoral Register is your mandate ... after all millions can not be bothered to vote ... why ? ...

... But long before the supporters of " The United Kingdom " figured out a way to concede the privilege of voting to more and of The People without giving them any power they had asserted their power - The English Law - over The Natural Law and had got rid of The Canon Law ( which was based upon Nomocracy ) and declared Henry VIII " Sovereign " ... the non-political principle of " Sovereignty " means that the only people who have any " rights " are those who have acquired some share in the power to control the non-political system which later became " The United Kingdom " - and therefore - since in Nomocracy i.e. Republicanism " rights " are constitutional laws which bestow inalienable dignity i.e. universal legal equality - ( actually originally only for Christians within Christendom - and also for Muslims within ... er ... Muslimdom ... and for Hebrews within Hebrewdom - since everybody was being terribly polite to them c1450 because The Hebrews in The World denounced anybody who foolishly casually referred to them as J#ws as being " anti-semitic " ) - so there was nobody above, below or outside of The Rule of Law - oh - except those wanting to change their religion ... and Atheists ( of course ) ...

... Prior to The Annexation of Wales there had been three ( at least ) kinds of legal jurisdiction in Wales : what had been holding Britannia Prima together for centuries in the face of the onslaught of The Hordes of Tourists from Europe had been the codification made by Hywel Dda of the traditional Celtic laws mixed together with Roman laws - i.e. the idea that there were any Dark Ages in Wales before 0999 is entirely erroneous : it was a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who were yet still bound together by a national legal system in which The People in Wales could get justice ... Since 1999 however we have had The Welsh Assembly ... and so we no longer have a national legal system in which The People in Wales can get justice ... just a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who are yet still bound together in a conspiracy against The People in Wales to prevent us from ever having The Rule of Law restored ... Nomocracy


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... Well ... we all make mistaks do wi nut ? ... Although I disclosed these to a few others some years before I openly and ardently started to declare this anti-Democratic creed I have been hanging on to these diagrams lest they over-simplify things and are simply grabbed by others and used to justify the kinds of criminal acts that I disapprove of : what I am prepared to endorse are those acts which challenge an unjust law being enforced for the sake of this blind legalism which characterises the " power politics " ( which is an oxymoron ) of The Democats in Wales and Westminster who have reduced the business of politics - of making laws - to what amounts to a hypocrisy - " If we call it a law then it is justice ! " ... This reduces the concept of political authority to that of thuggish violence - which of course is one of the original Republican arguments against Democracy : that it is Mobocracy. ... The Democrats claim that winning such things as elections or referendums by one vote means that they have acquired a " mandate " - or have even " won " a political argument - and therefore have the right to do as they please : it is after all just a matter of having the knack of getting The People in Wales to vote correctly - by telling them lies, scaring them out of their wits, getting them to vote by post long before they get to hear about any awkward facts, or - the new innovation - not bothering with obtaining a mandate by voting but claiming that The Electoral Register is your mandate ... after all millions can not be bothered to vote ... why ? ...

... But long before the supporters of " The United Kingdom " figured out a way to concede the privilege of voting to more and of The People without giving them any power they had asserted their power - The English Law - over The Natural Law and had got rid of The Canon Law ( which was based upon Nomocracy ) and declared Henry VIII " Sovereign " ... the non-political principle of " Sovereignty " means that the only people who have any " rights " are those who have acquired some share in the power to control the non-political system which later became " The United Kingdom " - and therefore - since in Nomocracy i.e. Republicanism " rights " are constitutional laws which bestow inalienable dignity i.e. universal legal equality - ( actually originally only for Christians within Christendom - and also for Muslims within ... er ... Muslimdom ... and for Hebrews within Hebrewdom - since everybody was being terribly polite to them c1450 because The Hebrews in The World denounced anybody who foolishly casually referred to them as J#ws as being " anti-semitic " ) - so there was nobody above, below or outside of The Rule of Law - oh - except those wanting to change their religion ... and Atheists ( of course ) ...

... Prior to The Annexation of Wales there had been three ( at least ) kinds of legal jurisdiction in Wales : what had been holding Britannia Prima together for centuries in the face of the onslaught of The Hordes of Tourists from Europe had been the codification made by Hywel Dda of the traditional Celtic laws mixed together with Roman laws - i.e. the idea that there were any Dark Ages in Wales before 0999 is entirely erroneous : it was a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who were yet still bound together by a national legal system in which The People in Wales could get justice ... Since 1999 however we have had The Welsh Assembly ... and so we no longer have a national legal system in which The People in Wales can get justice ... just a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who are yet still bound together in a conspiracy against The People in Wales to prevent us from ever having The Rule of Law restored ... Nomocracy !!!
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... Well ... we all make mistaks do wi nut ? ... Although I disclosed these to a few others some years before I openly and ardently started to declare this anti-Democratic creed I have been hanging on to these diagrams lest they over-simplify things and are simply grabbed by others and used to justify the kinds of criminal acts that I disapprove of : what I am prepared to endorse are those acts which challenge an unjust law being enforced for the sake of this blind legalism which characterises the " power politics " ( which is an oxymoron ) of The Democats in Wales and Westminster who have reduced the business of politics - of making laws - to what amounts to a hypocrisy - " If we call it a law then it is justice ! " ... This reduces the concept of political authority to that of thuggish violence - which of course is one of the original Republican arguments against Democracy : that it is Mobocracy. ... The Democrats claim that winning such things as elections or referendums by one vote means that they have acquired a " mandate " - or have even " won " a political argument - and therefore have the right to do as they please : it is after all just a matter of having the knack of getting The People in Wales to vote correctly - by telling them lies, scaring them out of their wits, getting them to vote by post long before they get to hear about any awkward facts, or - the new innovation - not bothering with obtaining a mandate by voting but claiming that The Electoral Register is your mandate ... after all millions can not be bothered to vote ... I wonder why ? ...

... But long before the supporters of " The United Kingdom " figured out a way to concede the privilege of voting to more and of The People without giving them any power they had asserted their power - The English Law - over The Natural Law and had got rid of The Canon Law ( which was based upon Nomocracy ) and declared Henry VIII " Sovereign " ... the non-political principle of " Sovereignty " means that the only people who have any " rights " are those who have acquired some share in the power to control the non-political system which later became " The United Kingdom " - and therefore - since in Nomocracy i.e. Republicanism " rights " are constitutional laws which bestow inalienable dignity i.e. universal legal equality - ( actually originally only for Christians within Christendom - and also for Muslims within ... er ... Muslimdom ... and for Hebrews within Hebrewdom - since everybody was being terribly polite to them c1450 because The Hebrews in The World denounced anybody who foolishly casually referred to them as J#ws as being " anti-semitic " ) - so there was nobody above, below or outside of The Rule of Law - oh - except those wanting to change their religion ... and Atheists ( of course ) ...

... Prior to The Annexation of Wales there had been three ( at least ) kinds of legal jurisdiction in Wales : what had been holding Britannia Prima together for centuries in the face of the onslaught of The Hordes of Tourists from Europe had been the codification made by Hywel Dda of the traditional Celtic laws mixed together with Roman laws - i.e. the idea that there were any Dark Ages in Wales before 0999 is entirely erroneous : it was a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who were yet still bound together by a national legal system in which The People in Wales could get justice ... Since 1999 however we have had The Welsh Assembly ... and so we no longer have a national legal system in which The People in Wales can get justice ... just a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who are yet still bound together in a conspiracy against The People in Wales to prevent us from ever having The Rule of Law restored ... Nomocracy !!!
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... Well ... we all make mistaks do wi nut ? ... Although I disclosed these to a few others some years before I openly and ardently started to declare this anti-Democratic creed I have been hanging on to these diagrams lest they over-simplify things and are simply grabbed by others and used to justify the kinds of criminal acts that I disapprove of : what I am prepared to endorse are those acts which challenge an unjust law being enforced for the sake of this blind legalism which characterises the " power politics " ( which is an oxymoron ) of The Democats in Wales and Westminster who have reduced the business of politics - of making laws - to what amounts to a hypocrisy - " If we call it a law then it is justice ! " ... This reduces the concept of political authority to that of thuggish violence - which of course is one of the original Republican arguments against Democracy : that it is Mobocracy. ... The Democrats claim that winning such things as elections or referendums by one vote means that they have acquired a " mandate " - or have even " won " a political argument - and therefore have the right to do as they please : it is after all just a matter of having the knack of getting The People in Wales to vote correctly - by telling them lies, scaring them out of their wits, getting them to vote by post long before they get to hear about any awkward facts, or - the new innovation - not bothering with obtaining a mandate by voting but claiming that The Electoral Register is your mandate ... after all millions can not be bothered to vote ... I wonder why ? ...

... But long before the supporters of " The United Kingdom " figured out a way to concede the privilege of voting to more and of The People without giving them any power their ancestors in The Aristocracy and The Monarchy had asserted the basis of their power - The English Law - over The Natural Law and at The Reformation they got rid of The Canon Law ( which was based upon Nomocracy ) and declared Henry VIII " Sovereign " ... the non-political principle of " Sovereignty " means that the only people who have any " rights " are those who have acquired some share in the power to control the non-political system which later became " The United Kingdom " - and therefore - since in Nomocracy i.e. Republicanism " rights " are constitutional laws which bestow inalienable dignity i.e. universal legal equality - ( actually originally only for Christians within Christendom - and also for Muslims within ... er ... Muslimdom ... and for Hebrews within Hebrewdom - since everybody was being terribly polite to them c1450 because The Hebrews in The World denounced anybody who foolishly casually referred to them as J#ws as being " anti-semitic " ) ...

- there was nobody above, below or outside of The Rule of Law - oh - well - except those wanting to change their religion ... and Atheists ( of course.) ... Despite these and other failings of " Religious Republicanism " there was an important difference between the secular English Law and religious Canon Law : the former was originally based upon trial by combat and this usually involved heavily armed knights fighting peasants without arms ... later this became tiresome so The English Legal system became based upon trial by wealth which usually involved evenly calmed spite tightening pleasants without alms ... modern English legal practice is based upon trial by stealth which usually involves heavenly balmed nights frightening peasants without qualms ... Canon Law was based instead upon The Welsh Inquisition - hah ! ... SEE ? - EVERYBODY EXPECTS " THE SPANISH INQUISITION " ... - in other words, on the principle of making inquiries as to the Facts and Arguments in order to discover The Truth and do Justice !

... Prior to The Annexation of Wales there had been three ( at least ) kinds of legal jurisdiction in Wales : what had been holding Britannia Prima together for centuries in the face of the onslaught of The Hordes of Tourists from Europe had been the codification made by Hywel Dda of the traditional Celtic laws mixed together with Roman laws - i.e. the idea that there were any Dark Ages in Wales before 0999 is entirely erroneous : it was a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who were yet still bound together by a national legal system in which The People in Wales could get justice ... Since 1999 however we have had The Welsh Assembly ... and so we no longer have a national legal system in which The People in Wales can get justice ... just a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who are yet still bound together in a conspiracy against The People in Wales to prevent us from ever having The Rule of Law restored ... Nomocracy !!! ... Well I for one want The People in Wales to get what they deserve : a proper grown-up political constitution - and I do not care if this is just a hand-me-down : my compatriots are still infants - they will grow into this by-and-by ... provided that we can still survive ...
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... Well ... we all make mistaks do wi nut ? ... Although I disclosed these to a few others some years before I openly and ardently started to declare this anti-Democratic creed I have been hanging on to these diagrams lest they over-simplify things and are simply grabbed by others and used to justify the kinds of criminal acts that I disapprove of : what I am prepared to endorse are those acts which challenge an unjust law being enforced for the sake of this blind legalism which characterises the " power politics " ( which is an oxymoron ) of The Democats in Wales and Westminster who have reduced the business of politics - of making laws - to what amounts to a hypocrisy - " If we call it a law then it is justice ! " ... This reduces the concept of political authority to that of thuggish violence - which of course is one of the original Republican arguments against Democracy : that it is Mobocracy. ... The Democrats claim that winning such things as elections or referendums by one vote means that they have acquired a " mandate " - or have even " won " a political argument - and therefore have the right to do as they please : it is after all just a matter of having the knack of getting The People in Wales to vote correctly - by telling them lies, scaring them out of their wits, getting them to vote by post long before they get to hear about any awkward facts, or - the new innovation - not bothering with obtaining a mandate by voting but claiming that The Electoral Register is your mandate ... after all millions can not be bothered to vote ... I wonder why ? ...

... But long before the supporters of " The United Kingdom " figured out a way to concede the privilege of voting to more and of The People without giving them any power their ancestors in The Aristocracy and The Monarchy had asserted the basis of their power - The English Law - over The Natural Law and at The Reformation they got rid of The Canon Law ( which was based upon Nomocracy ) and declared Henry VIII " Sovereign " ... the non-political principle of " Sovereignty " means that the only people who have any " rights " are those who have acquired some share in the power to control the non-political system which later became " The United Kingdom " - and therefore - since in Nomocracy i.e. Republicanism " rights " are constitutional laws which bestow inalienable dignity i.e. universal legal equality - ( actually originally only for Christians within Christendom - and also for Muslims within ... er ... Muslimdom ... and for Hebrews within Hebrewdom - since everybody was being terribly polite to them c1450 because The Hebrews in The World denounced anybody who foolishly casually referred to them as J#ws as being " anti-semitic " ) ...

- there was nobody above, below or outside of The Rule of Law - oh - well - except those wanting to change their religion ... and Atheists ( of course.) ... Despite these and other failings of " Religious Republicanism " there was an important difference between the secular English Law and religious Canon Law : the former was originally based upon trial by combat and this usually involved heavily armed knights fighting peasants without arms ... later this became tiresome so The English Legal system became based upon trial by wealth which usually involved evenly calmed spite tightening pleasants without alms ... modern English legal practice is based upon trial by stealth which usually involves heavenly balmed nights frightening peasants without qualms ... Canon Law was based instead upon The Welsh Inquisition - hah ! ... SEE ? - EVERYBODY EXPECTS " THE SPANISH INQUISITION " ... - in other words, on the principle of making inquiries as to the Facts and Arguments in order to discover The Truth and do Justice !

... Prior to The Annexation of Wales there had been three ( at least ) kinds of legal jurisdiction in Wales : what had been holding Britannia Prima together for centuries in the face of the onslaught of The Hordes of Tourists from Europe had been the codification made by Hywel Dda of the traditional Celtic laws mixed together with Roman laws - i.e. the idea that there were any Dark Ages in Wales before 0999 is entirely erroneous : it was a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who were yet still bound together by a national legal system in which The People in Wales could get justice ... Since 1999 however we have had The Welsh Assembly ... and so we no longer have a national legal system in which The People in Wales can get justice ... just a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who are yet still bound together in a conspiracy against The People in Wales to prevent us from ever having The Rule of Law restored ... Nomocracy !!! ... Well I for one want The People in Wales to get what they deserve : a proper grown-up political constitution - and I do not care if this is just a hand-me-down : my compatriots are still infants - they will grow into this by-and-by - provided that they survive until 2020.
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... Well ... we all make mistaks do wi nut ? ... Although I disclosed these to a few others some years before I openly and ardently started to declare this anti-Democratic creed I have been hanging on to these diagrams lest they over-simplify things and are simply grabbed by others and used to justify the kinds of criminal acts that I disapprove of : what I am prepared to endorse are those acts which challenge an unjust law being enforced for the sake of this blind legalism which characterises the " power politics " ( which is an oxymoron ) of The Democats in Wales and Westminster who have reduced the business of politics - of making laws - to what amounts to a hypocrisy - " If we call it a law then it is justice ! " ... This reduces the concept of political authority to that of thuggish violence - which of course is one of the original Republican arguments against Democracy : that it is Mobocracy. ... The Democrats claim that winning such things as elections or referendums by one vote means that they have acquired a " mandate " - or have even " won " a political argument - and therefore have the right to do as they please : it is after all just a matter of having the knack of getting The People in Wales to vote correctly - by telling them lies, scaring them out of their wits, getting them to vote by post long before they get to hear about any awkward facts, or - the new innovation - not bothering with obtaining a mandate by voting but claiming that The Electoral Register is your mandate ... after all millions can not be bothered to vote ... I wonder why ? ...

... But long before the supporters of " The United Kingdom " figured out a way to concede the privilege of voting to more and of The People without giving them any power their ancestors in The Aristocracy and The Monarchy had asserted the basis of their power - The English Law - over The Natural Law and at The Reformation they got rid of The Canon Law ( which was based upon Nomocracy ) and declared Henry VIII " Sovereign " ... the non-political principle of " Sovereignty " means that the only people who have any " rights " are those who have acquired some share in the power to control the non-political system which later became " The United Kingdom " - and therefore - since in Nomocracy i.e. Republicanism " rights " are constitutional laws which bestow inalienable dignity i.e. universal legal equality - ( actually originally only for Christians within Christendom - and also for Muslims within ... er ... Muslimdom ... and for Hebrews within Hebrewdom - since everybody was being terribly polite to them c1450 because The Hebrews in The World denounced anybody who foolishly casually referred to them as J#ws as being " anti-semitic " ) ...

- there was nobody above, below or outside of The Rule of Law - oh - well - except those wanting to change their religion ... and Atheists ( of course.) ... Despite these and other failings of " Religious Republicanism " there was an important difference between the secular English Law and religious Canon Law : the former was originally based upon trial by combat and this usually involved heavily armed knights fighting peasants without arms ... later this became tiresome so The English Legal system became based upon trial by wealth which usually involved evenly calmed spite tightening pleasants without alms ... modern English legal practice is based upon trial by stealth which usually involves heavenly balmed nights frightening peasants without qualms ... Canon Law was based instead upon The Welsh Inquisition - hah ! ... SEE ? - EVERYBODY EXPECTS " THE SPANISH INQUISITION " ... - in other words, on the principle of making inquiries as to the Facts and Arguments in order to discover The Truth and do Justice !

... Prior to The Annexation of Wales there had been three ( at least ) kinds of legal jurisdiction in Wales : what had been holding Britannia Prima together for centuries in the face of the onslaught of The Hordes of Tourists from Europe had been the codification made by Hywel Dda of the traditional Celtic laws mixed together with Roman laws - i.e. the idea that there were any Dark Ages in Wales before 0999 is entirely erroneous : it was a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who were yet still bound together by a national legal system in which The People in Wales could get justice ... Since 1999 however we have had The Welsh Assembly ... and so we no longer have a national legal system in which The People in Wales can get justice ... just a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who are yet still bound together in a conspiracy against The People in Wales to prevent us from ever having The Rule of Law restored ... Nomocracy !!! ... Well I for one want The People in Wales to get what they deserve : a proper grown-up political constitution - and I do not care if this is just a hand-me-down or even thrown-out theory : my compatriots are still infants - they will grow into this by-and-by - and after all our nation has been bankrupt for more than thirty years ( and we are so broke - surely they would never miss an offer so good as " Free Wales !!! - Free Wales !!! - Get'em while they'r'ot !!! - Buy England - an'I'll throw Wales in !!! " ) ... provided of course that not all of our organs have not been harvested 2020 ... I haven't ever had an organ ... I had a banjo ...











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... Well ... we all make mistaks do wi nut ? ... Although I disclosed these to a few others some years before I openly and ardently started to declare this anti-Democratic creed I have been hanging on to these diagrams lest they over-simplify things and are simply grabbed by others and used to justify the kinds of criminal acts that I disapprove of : what I am prepared to endorse are those acts which challenge an unjust law being enforced for the sake of this blind legalism which characterises the " power politics " ( which is an oxymoron ) of The Democats in Wales and Westminster who have reduced the business of politics - of making laws - to what amounts to a hypocrisy - " If we call it a law then it is justice ! " ... This reduces the concept of political authority to that of thuggish violence - which of course is one of the original Republican arguments against Democracy : that it is Mobocracy. ... The Democrats claim that winning such things as elections or referendums by one vote means that they have acquired a " mandate " - or have even " won " a political argument - and therefore have the right to do as they please : it is after all just a matter of having the knack of getting The People in Wales to vote correctly - by telling them lies, scaring them out of their wits, getting them to vote by post long before they get to hear about any awkward facts, or - the new innovation - not bothering with obtaining a mandate by voting but claiming that The Electoral Register is your mandate ... after all millions can not be bothered to vote ... I wonder why ? ...

... But long before the supporters of " The United Kingdom " figured out a way to concede the privilege of voting to more and of The People without giving them any power their ancestors in The Aristocracy and The Monarchy had asserted the basis of their power - The English Law - over The Natural Law and at The Reformation they got rid of The Canon Law ( which was based upon Nomocracy ) and declared Henry VIII " Sovereign " ... the non-political principle of " Sovereignty " means that the only people who have any " rights " are those who have acquired some share in the power to control the non-political system which later became " The United Kingdom " - and therefore - since in Nomocracy i.e. Republicanism " rights " are constitutional laws which bestow inalienable dignity i.e. universal legal equality - ( actually originally only for Christians within Christendom - and also for Muslims within ... er ... Muslimdom ... and for Hebrews within Hebrewdom - since everybody was being terribly polite to them c1450 because The Hebrews in The World denounced anybody who foolishly casually referred to them as J#ws as being " anti-semitic " ) ...

- there was nobody above, below or outside of The Rule of Law - oh - well - except those wanting to change their religion ... and Atheists ( of course.) ... Despite these and other failings of " Religious Republicanism " there was an important difference between the secular English Law and religious Canon Law : the former was originally based upon trial by combat and this usually involved heavily armed knights fighting peasants without arms ... later this became tiresome so The English Legal system became based upon trial by wealth which usually involved evenly calmed spite tightening pleasants without alms ... modern English legal practice is based upon trial by stealth which usually involves heavenly balmed nights frightening peasants without qualms ... Canon Law was based instead upon The Welsh Inquisition - hah ! ... SEE ? - EVERYBODY EXPECTS " THE SPANISH INQUISITION " ... - in other words, on the principle of making inquiries as to the Facts and Arguments in order to discover The Truth and do Justice !

... Prior to The Annexation of Wales there had been three ( at least ) kinds of legal jurisdiction in Wales : what had been holding Britannia Prima together for centuries in the face of the onslaught of The Hordes of Tourists from Europe had been the codification made by Hywel Dda of the traditional Celtic laws mixed together with Roman laws - i.e. the idea that there were any Dark Ages in Wales before 0999 is entirely erroneous : it was a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who were yet still bound together by a national legal system in which The People in Wales could get justice ... Since 1999 however we have had The Welsh Assembly ... and so we no longer have a national legal system in which The People in Wales can get justice ... just a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who are yet still bound together in a conspiracy against The People in Wales to prevent us from ever having The Rule of Law restored ... Nomocracy !!! ... Well I for one want The People in Wales to get what they deserve : a proper grown-up political constitution - and I do not care if this is just a hand-me-down or even thrown-out theory : my compatriots are still infants - they will grow into this by-and-by - and after all our nation has been bankrupt for more than thirty years ( and we are so broke - surely they would never miss an offer so good as " Free Wales !!! - Free Wales !!! - Get'em while they'r'ot !!! - Buy England - an'I'll throw Wales in !!! " ) ... provided of course that not all of our organs have not been harvested 2020 ... I haven't ever had an organ ... I had a banjo ...













... The Scrawl of The Wild ? ... No - but to be honest this dressing up game has to stop for the time being ... I am obviously leaving you something to think about ... One reason for laying in bed to attempt those was to avoid my turning the computer on - mostly because I have been purposefully avoiding tackling a now urgent matter which I must either get done or ... not get done ... or be done ... I want read a book ... draw a picture ... sleep ... I do not want any individuals to found a " Pure Republican " party - I want you to party and become friends and then - only then - will Real Republicanism happen : beware anybody who talks of " power politics " - this is an oxymoron and they will not only waste your lives in follow-my-leader games ... you will end up not not even having the desire either to live or to do anything any more : Republicanism is about choosing to pursue Truth, Love, Freedom, Peace - and Life ... Altruism ...

... Ultraism of course offers many more varied and interesting choices to pursue Lies, Hatred, Enslavement, War - and Death ...

... The choices that we make when we consider " Y " are rarely based upon all of the possible facts and arguments - but there is no time to learn them after we encounter " Y " in real life : our indecision is also a decision - and we can not unmake our choices ... we have to accept our mistakes - and take an interest in both ourselves and others : read some Cicero ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laelius_de_Amicitia

This guy rambles on ... even more so than me - but perhaps more to the point !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhZiWb1MhJA - Gregory B Sadler : Cicero on Friendship ( part 1 )

... mmm ... skimming Gregory B Sadler's comments to those commenting I read this -

" You seem to think of texts as somehow outside of the sphere of the real, as if the authors were indulging in pure phantasy, and had no experiences of their own to reflect and ruminate upon -- and as if they aren't already part of a tradition of seeing what other people wrote and then reinterpreting it in terms of their own culture and experiences -- like Cicero with Aristotle -- If we want to simply appeal to experience, mine is very different from yours. These texts have proven very useful."
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... Well ... we all make mistaks do wi nut ? ... Although I disclosed these to a few others some years before I openly and ardently started to declare this anti-Democratic creed I have been hanging on to these diagrams lest they over-simplify things and are simply grabbed by others and used to justify the kinds of criminal acts that I disapprove of : what I am prepared to endorse are those acts which challenge an unjust law being enforced for the sake of this blind legalism which characterises the " power politics " ( which is an oxymoron ) of The Democats in Wales and Westminster who have reduced the business of politics - of making laws - to what amounts to a hypocrisy - " If we call it a law then it is justice ! " ... This reduces the concept of political authority to that of thuggish violence - which of course is one of the original Republican arguments against Democracy : that it is Mobocracy. ... The Democrats claim that winning such things as elections or referendums by one vote means that they have acquired a " mandate " - or have even " won " a political argument - and therefore have the right to do as they please : it is after all just a matter of having the knack of getting The People in Wales to vote correctly - by telling them lies, scaring them out of their wits, getting them to vote by post long before they get to hear about any awkward facts, or - the new innovation - not bothering with obtaining a mandate by voting but claiming that The Electoral Register is your mandate ... after all millions can not be bothered to vote ... I wonder why ? ...

... But long before the supporters of " The United Kingdom " figured out a way to concede the privilege of voting to more and of The People without giving them any power their ancestors in The Aristocracy and The Monarchy had asserted the basis of their power - The English Law - over The Natural Law and at The Reformation they got rid of The Canon Law ( which was based upon Nomocracy ) and declared Henry VIII " Sovereign " ... the non-political principle of " Sovereignty " means that the only people who have any " rights " are those who have acquired some share in the power to control the non-political system which later became " The United Kingdom " - and therefore - since in Nomocracy i.e. Republicanism " rights " are constitutional laws which bestow inalienable dignity i.e. universal legal equality - ( actually originally only for Christians within Christendom - and also for Muslims within ... er ... Muslimdom ... and for Hebrews within Hebrewdom - since everybody was being terribly polite to them c1450 because The Hebrews in The World denounced anybody who foolishly casually referred to them as J#ws as being " anti-semitic " ) ...

- there was nobody above, below or outside of The Rule of Law - oh - well - except those wanting to change their religion ... and Atheists ( of course.) ... Despite these and other failings of " Religious Republicanism " there was an important difference between the secular English Law and religious Canon Law : the former was originally based upon trial by combat and this usually involved heavily armed knights fighting peasants without arms ... later this became tiresome so The English Legal system became based upon trial by wealth which usually involved evenly calmed spite tightening pleasants without alms ... modern English legal practice is based upon trial by stealth which usually involves heavenly balmed nights frightening peasants without qualms ... Canon Law was based instead upon The Welsh Inquisition - hah ! ... SEE ? - EVERYBODY EXPECTS " THE SPANISH INQUISITION " ... - in other words, on the principle of making inquiries as to the Facts and Arguments in order to discover The Truth - and do Justice !

... Prior to The Annexation of Wales there had been three ( at least ) kinds of legal jurisdiction in Wales : what had been holding Britannia Prima together for centuries in the face of the onslaught of The Hordes of Tourists from Europe had been the codification made by Hywel Dda of the traditional Celtic laws mixed together with Roman laws - i.e. the idea that there were any Dark Ages in Wales before 0999 is entirely erroneous : it was a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who were yet still bound together by a national legal system in which The People in Wales could get justice ... Since 1999 however we have had The Welsh Assembly ... and so we no longer have a national legal system in which The People in Wales can get justice ... just a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who are yet still bound together in a conspiracy against The People in Wales to prevent us from ever having The Rule of Law restored ... Nomocracy !!! ... Well I for one want The People in Wales to get what they deserve : a proper grown-up political constitution - and I do not care if this is just a hand-me-down or even thrown-out theory : my compatriots are still infants - they will grow into this by-and-by - and after all our nation has been bankrupt for more than thirty years ( and we are so broke - surely they would never miss an offer so good as " Free Wales !!! - Free Wales !!! - Get'em while they'r'ot !!! - Buy England - an'we'll throw Wales in !!! " ) ... provided of course that not all of our organs have not been harvested 2020 ... I haven't ever had an organ ... I had a banjo ...













... The Scrawl of The Wild ? ... No - but to be honest this dressing up game has to stop for the time being ... I am obviously leaving you something to think about ... One reason for laying in bed to attempt those was to avoid my turning the computer on - mostly because I have been purposefully avoiding tackling a now urgent matter which I must either get done or ... not get done ... or be done ... I want read a book ... draw a picture ... sleep ... I do not want any individuals to found a " Pure Republican " party - I want you to party and become friends and then - only then - will Real Republicanism happen : beware anybody who talks of " power politics " - this is an oxymoron and they will not only waste your lives in follow-my-leader games ... you will end up not not even having the desire either to live or to do anything any more : Republicanism is about choosing to pursue Truth, Love, Freedom, Peace - and Life ... Altruism ...

... Ultraism of course offers many more varied and interesting choices to pursue Lies, Hatred, Enslavement, War - and Death ...

... The choices that we make when we consider " Y " are rarely based upon all of the possible facts and arguments - but there is no time to learn them after we encounter " Y " in real life : our indecision is also a decision - and we can not unmake our choices ... we have to accept our mistakes - and take an interest in both ourselves and others : Republicanism is best conducted upon the basis of friendship - read " On Friendship " by Cicero ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laelius_de_Amicitia

This guy rambles on ... even more so than me - but perhaps more to the point !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhZiWb1MhJA - Gregory B Sadler : Cicero on Friendship ( part 1 )

... mmm ... skimming Gregory B Sadler's comments to those commenting I read this -

" You seem to think of texts as somehow outside of the sphere of the real, as if the authors were indulging in pure phantasy, and had no experiences of their own to reflect and ruminate upon -- and as if they aren't already part of a tradition of seeing what other people wrote and then reinterpreting it in terms of their own culture and experiences -- like Cicero with Aristotle -- If we want to simply appeal to experience, mine is very different from yours. These texts have proven very useful."


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[ REMEMBER : THIS IS A DISCUSSION DOCUMENT - AND " Y REPWBLIC " IS " O/C " SO THIS IS NOT THE FINAL VERSION : THIS IS A SHAMBLES ! ]

( FROM THE EARLIEST POST - SEE ABOVE )

I CAME BACK TO TYPO THIS AND FOUND MULTIPLE COPIES FROM WRITING IT LAST NIGHT : I SUSPECT THAT THIS IMPLIES ONLINE SURVEILLANCE ( AN ILLEGAL ADSL TAP ) BECAUSE I WAS NOT USING A WIFI CONNECTION : NINE COPIES WERE CREATED AS I WORKED ?

FURTHER POST SCRIPT : I THOUGHT THAT I WOULD TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WAS THE CORRECT COPY BELOW AND THEN DELETE THE REST OF THEM - BUT THAT HAS PROVEN TO BE BEWILDERING : I AM NOW EXHAUSTED BY THIS GATHERING HYPERTHYMIC PEAK WHICH WAS KEEPING ME AWAKE - LUCKY YOU TO BENEFIT FROM MY ILLNESS !!! - BUT TO HELP YOU OUT - BECAUSE I GUESS THAT YOU TOO ARE BEWILDERED BY ALL OF THIS - I AM GUESSING THAT THE LAST POST IS THE BEST ONE AND SO I AM GOING TO ADD TO IT THE COVER SHEET WHICH I CREATED TODAY FOR SOME PAPER COPIES - " Y LLAW AGORED " WITH THE FINGERS AND THUMB MARKED WITH " THE RIGHT HAND PATH OF DEXTEROUS POLITICS - TRUTH, LOVE, FREEDOM, PEACE AND LIFE " ... NOW : SURELY YOU REALISE THAT WHAT YOU ARE VIEWING ARE SOME PAPER PARTS OF A DISCUSSION WHICH IS TAKING PLACE WITHIN " THE CARDIFF ILLUMINATI " - ? - EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS PROVISIONAL AND - AS YOU WITNESSED AT CBRD 2010 - EVERYTHING WE DO IS ALWAYS A HAPPY SHAMBLES : WE DO NOT WANT TO OWN IT BUT TO IMPROVE IT !!!

IN OTHER WORDS : THESE DOCUMENTS ARE FOR EVERYBODY - THIS IS " O/C " - " THE OPEN CONSPIRACY " - OR - IF YOU PREFER KRANKY - " O/K " - " DE 'OPIN' KONSPIRASI " - TO REMOVE THE ART FROM SINGING THE MARSALAYS !!!


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[ WAS THIS THE FINAL VERSION ? ]





... Well ... we all make mistaks do wi nut ? ... Although I disclosed these to a few others some years before I openly and ardently started to declare this anti-Democratic creed I have been hanging on to these diagrams lest they over-simplify things and are simply grabbed by others and used to justify the kinds of criminal acts that I disapprove of : what I am prepared to endorse are those acts which challenge an unjust law being enforced for the sake of this blind legalism which characterises the " power politics " ( which is an oxymoron ) of The Democats in Wales and Westminster who have reduced the business of politics - of making laws - to what amounts to a hypocrisy - " If we call it a law then it is justice ! " ... This reduces the concept of political authority to that of thuggish violence - which of course is one of the original Republican arguments against Democracy : that it is Mobocracy. ... The Democrats claim that winning such things as elections or referendums by one vote means that they have acquired a " mandate " - or have even " won " a political argument - and therefore have the right to do as they please : it is after all just a matter of having the knack of getting The People in Wales to vote correctly - by telling them lies, scaring them out of their wits, getting them to vote by post long before they get to hear about any awkward facts, or - the new innovation - not bothering with obtaining a mandate by voting but claiming that The Electoral Register is your mandate ... after all millions can not be bothered to vote ... I wonder why ? ...

... But long before the supporters of " The United Kingdom " figured out a way to concede the privilege of voting to more and of The People without giving them any power their ancestors in The Aristocracy and The Monarchy had asserted the basis of their power - The English Law - over The Natural Law and at The Reformation they got rid of The Canon Law ( which was based upon Nomocracy ) and declared Henry VIII " Sovereign " ... the non-political principle of " Sovereignty " means that the only people who have any " rights " are those who have acquired some share in the power to control the non-political system which later became " The United Kingdom " - and therefore - since in Nomocracy i.e. Republicanism " rights " are constitutional laws which bestow inalienable dignity i.e. universal legal equality - ( actually originally only for Christians within Christendom - and also for Muslims within ... er ... Muslimdom ... and for Hebrews within Hebrewdom - since everybody was being terribly polite to them c1450 because The Hebrews in The World denounced anybody who foolishly casually referred to them as J#ws as being " anti-semitic " ) ...

- there was nobody above, below or outside of The Rule of Law - oh - well - except those wanting to change their religion ... and Atheists ( of course.) ... Despite these and other failings of " Religious Republicanism " there was an important difference between the secular English Law and religious Canon Law : the former was originally based upon trial by combat and this usually involved heavily armed knights fighting peasants without arms ... later this became tiresome so The English Legal system became based upon trial by wealth which usually involved evenly calmed spite tightening pleasants without alms ... modern English legal practice is based upon trial by stealth which usually involves heavenly balmed nights frightening peasants without qualms ... Canon Law was based instead upon The Welsh Inquisition - hah ! ... SEE ? - EVERYBODY EXPECTS " THE SPANISH INQUISITION " ... - in other words, on the principle of making inquiries as to the Facts and Arguments in order to discover The Truth and do Justice !

... Prior to The Annexation of Wales there had been three ( at least ) kinds of legal jurisdiction in Wales : what had been holding Britannia Prima together for centuries in the face of the onslaught of The Hordes of Tourists from Europe had been the codification made by Hywel Dda of the traditional Celtic laws mixed together with Roman laws - i.e. the idea that there were any Dark Ages in Wales before 0999 is entirely erroneous : it was a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who were yet still bound together by a national legal system in which The People in Wales could get justice ... Since 1999 however we have had The Welsh Assembly ... and so we no longer have a national legal system in which The People in Wales can get justice ... just a single polity argued over by small minded petty tyrants who are yet still bound together in a conspiracy against The People in Wales to prevent us from ever having The Rule of Law restored ... Nomocracy !!! ... Well I for one want The People in Wales to get what they deserve : a proper grown-up political constitution - and I do not care if this is just a hand-me-down or even thrown-out theory : my compatriots are still infants - they will grow into this by-and-by - and after all our nation has been bankrupt for more than thirty years ( and we are so broke - surely they would never miss an offer so good as " Free Wales !!! - Free Wales !!! - Get'em while they'r'ot !!! - Buy England - an'I'll throw Wales in !!! " ) ... provided of course that not all of our organs have not been harvested 2020 ... I haven't ever had an organ ... I had a banjo ...













... The Scrawl of The Wild ? ... No - but to be honest this dressing up game has to stop for the time being ... I am obviously leaving you something to think about ... One reason for laying in bed to attempt those was to avoid my turning the computer on - mostly because I have been purposefully avoiding tackling a now urgent matter which I must either get done or ... not get done ... or be done ... I want to read a book ... draw a picture ... sleep ... I do not want any individuals to found a " Pure Republican " party - I want you to party and become friends and then - only then - will Real Republicanism happen : beware anybody who talks of " power politics " - this is an oxymoron and they will only waste your lives in their follow-my-leader games ... you will end up without even having the desire either o live or to do anything any more : Republicanism is about choosing to pursue Truth, Love, Freedom, Peace - and Life ... Altruism ...

... Ultraism of course offers many more varied and interesting choices to pursue Lies, Hatred, Enslavement, War - and Death ...

... The choices that we make when we consider " Y " are rarely based upon all of the possible facts and arguments - but there is no time to learn about them once we are being forced into a decision by encountering " Y " in real life : our indecision is our decision - and we can not unmake our choices ... so we have to accept our mistakes - and take an interest in the failures and successes of both ourselves and also of our friends because we can not understand the lives and thoughts of strangers : Republicanism is best conducted upon the basis of friendship - read " On Friendship " by Cicero ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laelius_de_Amicitia

This guy rambles on ... even more so than me - but perhaps more to the point !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhZiWb1MhJA - Gregory B Sadler : Cicero on Friendship ( part 1 )

... mmm ... skimming Gregory B Sadler's comments to those commenting I read this -

" You seem to think of texts as somehow outside of the sphere of the real, as if the authors were indulging in pure phantasy, and had no experiences of their own to reflect and ruminate upon -- and as if they aren't already part of a tradition of seeing what other people wrote and then reinterpreting it in terms of their own culture and experiences -- like Cicero with Aristotle -- If we want to simply appeal to experience, mine is very different from yours. These texts have proven very useful."


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Sometimes mistakes are beneficial - even heaven-sent ? - and when I sat down to recreate this pictorial mnemonic - " Y Llaw Agored " with " The Right Hand Path of Dexterous Politics - Truth, Love, Freedom, Peace - and Life ! " written upon it ... I set out " N---S " to begin with and having inscribed " NO-OS " I found too little space left in the middle to write " NOMOS " ... and then suddenly the obvious happened - first I inserted that cryptic sign of the impecunious " Bard of Liberty " - Iolo Morgannwg's " /|\ " - " The Name of God " - " IOU " - which was more or less the first element which he created in his improvised Rousseauian Druidical Bardical Republicanical Civil Religion ( see Book IV of " The Social Contract " ) and then I automatically saw that this summoned up his successors in such people as Dr William Price and The Serpent which leads to The Rocking Stone on Pontypridd Common - where in 1848 Evan Davies paraded around with The White Staff of Peace and publicly but subtly rejected the summons from The National Assembly in London for the third attempt at armed " revolution " on the 16th August. ...

http://www.sparknotes.com/philosophy/socialcontract/section12/page/2/

... " /|\ " receives less hostility now because it has become so familiar as to be unremarked : most of The People in Wales do not think of it as being other than Iolo Morgannwg's Muse " Yr Awen " ( both that word and the idea had been recorded for centuries before him ) and as such it has associations with Celty misty twilighty stuff ... If you know that Iolo's God is " IOU " and that his writing system which is carved onto wooden staves using the three notches " /|\ " looks very much like the tally sticks which accounted how much of the tithe tax in Wales due to The Church of England he had not paid - and that it was whilst he was incarcerated in Cardiff Castle for this and raging against this miserable " charity " of The Church in The State that he first " worshipped " the " IOU " which had re-created him ... as a Republican ... " /|\ " can also be read as " The Three Rays of Heaven " - " The Enlightenment " - " The Muse of The Bard of Liberty " - " The Prince of Wales Feathers - Inverted ! " - " The United Kingdom's Broad Arrow - Broken ! " ( it was used to mark the government's property - and prisoners ) - " The Mason's Mark " ( Iolo was a journeyman stonemason.) - " /|\ " bears a striking resemblance to " The Unfinished Pyramid " of " The Great Seal of The USA " - as does Mistar Urdd ! ... Iolo Morgannwg and The Republicans in Wales lived through " The English Terror " of the 1790s and he and his friends literally risked imprisonment and death for expressing their political opinions - " /|\ " was also " Y Nod Cyfrin " - " The Secret Mark " which Iolo Morgannwg may have traced out oh so casually with The White Staff of Peace into the dust found upon The Open Road ... or perhaps traced with his finger into the palm of another's hand beneath the tavarn table - outstretched to him as " Y Llaw Agored " ... ?




( 11.30pm Wednesday 19-10-16 )

I made some xeroxes of these draughts today and I decorated the usual " Y Llaw Agored " cover sheet as above with " The Right Hand Path of Dexterous Politics - Truth, Love, Freedom, Peace and Life ! " ... You can make a little game out of this by raising the appropriate finger as you list these five cardinal values - and as you reach your thumb you snap those fingers back into your palm and make " The Thumbs Up !!! " sign for " Let The People in Wales and The World - Live !!! " ... " The Open Hand " is of course a universal human gesture - " HELLO !!! " - " Please - I want to ask a question - ? " - " STOP !!! " - etc - but in association with Republicanism it also carries the added associations of - The " Manus " which was the Roman legionnaires' standard carried by each of the " Maniples " or " Handfuls of Men " who were the front line of the defences of The Republic in Rome - " The Eagle " belonged to The Monocrats in Rome for whom each legion was a private army, " The Dragons " belonged to The Aristocrats in Rome who bought their commissions, " The Hands " belonged to The Democrats : citizens so poor that their only option in life was to become " commanipulares " - which came to mean both a platoon on the battlefield and what amounted to political cells of pensioned off soldiers back in Rome where they became the organisers and agitators for - or against - the " populares " - The Democrats seeking votes to obtain lucrative offices in The State : " The Candidates " who might wake in the morning to find the white limewash print from " The Open Hand " upon their doors to remind, warn or threaten them not to ignore ther local " commanipulares " who were bound together in fierce friendships forged in the fields of both war and politics. ...

... The People in Poverty brought together into a tightly packed square by their local commanipulares must have roared with delight at the sight of their advocates raising " The Open Hand " against " The Eagle " or " The Dragon " and so it was one of the rhetorical gestures used by " The Candidates " ( which originally meant " The Ones in The White / Pure / Unstained / Sacred Togas " - candidates for office in The Republic in Rome usually had rather grubby togas but they had these bleached and then whitened with chalk when they made their appearances before their electorate to make their political speeches .... Thus " White " is the political colour of Civil or " Civic Republicans " i.e. The Ciceronian Republicans - the ones involved in The Public Discourse ... but " Black " is another political colour used by Civic Republicans when in mourning for the death of The Public Discourse i.e. The Catonian Republicans - the ones involved in loud and active public protests who are summoning up the memory of Cato who in opposing the overthrow of The Rule of Law by Caesar refused to pretend that everything was normal and refused to ever again put on his White toga until The Republic in Rome was restored to The People in Rome ... In Wales in the 1960s the poet Harri Webb created a black flag with a white eagle upon it recalling the sacred eagle in a medieval story about " Y Mab Darogan " - " The Son of Prophecy " who - as is usual in these tales - will return in times of trouble : he made a gift of this flag to some people that I regard as " Situationalists " who had rather too much talent as players in their political performances ...

... This prop from Harri Webb's melodrama was so difficult to reproduce they gradually made a remarkable simplification of its design and so they created the now world famous symbol " Eryr Wen " ... which I occasionally type like this >|< but it is in fact slightly more complicated ... whilst it is celebrated in other countries, in Wales " Yr Eryr Wen " - " The - White / Pure / Unstained / Sacred - Eagle " - stirs up all sorts of passions and controversies : yes - it began as a proud symbol of defiance in a staged drama - then it was donated for use by Situationists in Agit-prop - but once it had been reduced to >|< it acquired the paramilitary associations which is all that most of The People in Wales see in it : for those who bear it proudly it means so much more - and they presently parade around with it under the title " Balchder Cymru " - " The Pride of Wales " - and as " Welsh Republicans " they are Nationalists who stand at the other end of the spectrum from " The Republicans in Wales " - the Internationalists in " Y Repwblic " ... Arguably the problem for all the other varieties of Republicans in between these two antagonistic groups of extremists is that The Quiet Majority are not heard : in between Black Balchder and White Y Repwblic there are many other Republican colours of every shade and tint.

And that may be the problem : The Quiet Majority of The Republicans in Wales do not want to choose between " Black " or " White " because they detest extremism - " It's not Welsh ! " - whereas personally I enjoy being an extremist and I enjoy encountering other extremists : for us it is about exploring the logical consequences of our religious and political polemics in contestations with others - in other words for many of us opportunities for arguing are like those for bungee-jumping : sports which some think are dangerous and ought to be banned because they are timid and want The State to protect them from the things which frighten them like - ghosts ? ... What frightens me about The Democrats - having had a fair amount of experience in dealing with them - is that their non-political system rewards and promotes those who are least suitable - and always unqualified - to be involved in the decision making process which is a political system : that is why Democracy is based upon voting - in order to avoid doing politics ... basically in order to succeed in their non-political system Democrats have to be extremely obsessive, deceitful, narcissistic and covertly aggressive : in my experience The Democrats in Wales and Westminster are at least neurotic if not psychotic and being both is clearly a necessary qualification for those who seek to govern others instead of themselves ...

... Why do we have pantomime paramilitaries and pantomime politicians ? ... Probably for the same reason we have pantomime pacifists : because The Quiet Majority in Wales are just too polite to publicly ridicule us ... you will note therefore that I make a point of mocking myself as well as others : it is however always most difficult to laugh at our greatest vulnerabilities - which is why those who mimic politicos are like those infants who copy adults without knowing what they are doing ... they can not tolerate being the object of humorous advice and insist upon lecturing others by way of repeating the words which they once heard someone else say and insisting upon talking " seriously " which is to childishly mistake Acting for Activism.

02.00 am AGAIN ... UGh ... I want to go to bed now with a suitably politico book ...



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