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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:27 am    Post subject: REPWBLIC : Funding Arrangements - COCK AID ? Reply with quote

Whilst the webpages of " repwblic.org " being been off-line for three years may have been more cock-up than conspiracy, paying for them and other things for Repwblic out of dai's own pocket money made me ponder not so much as to whether the " repwblic.org " pages were a necessary insurance ( which they clearly were given the events of 2012 when repwblic.org disappeared during a change of web-hosting when the digital equivalent of a sabot seems to have been stuffed into repwblic.org's NS1 address : it has taken me three years to extract it ) but as to how to pay for them and defray our other expenses without having any of the income mixed up with mine. Furthermore when repwblic.informe.com commenced nobody gave any thought to the expectation that it could become a source of revenue, indeed there have been strong objections to the idea that in contributing pieces of writing to repwblic.informe.com those writing would be creating an economic as well as a political resource, although my own comment upon this is that the essential difference between religion and politics is that the latter has economic consequences e.g. however strenuously a lot of those who believe themselves to be talking about politics assert that they are " not religious " religion is exactly what they are doing if the ideologies which they are elaborating have no consequences in political action : all political activities require money and when they succeed and result in legislation etc they have all sorts of economic consequences.

After more than eight years Repwblic is clearly no longer merely an experiment but a fixture of some sort, a nail in the coffin of the political system called The United Kingdom upon which to hang some other matters upon. " Y Repwblic " was meant initially to be solely " A Republic of Letters " intended to promote an improved understanding of what Republicanism really is, in order to protect the word " Republican " from being abused by teenage wanna-bee terrorists posing before their webcams in their their bedrooms in their camouflage pyjamas with their balaclavas and plastic pistols, whose corrupt ideas of " Republicanism " are derived from the propaganda against Republicanism rather than from Republicanism itself. Here in Wales we have the almost hopeless task before us of overcoming over two hundred years of propaganda against their critics by the supporters of The United Kingdom. Just in order to motivate us to make this wearysome task more interesting, in this long drawn out verbal struggle with this corrupt and corrupting political system called The United Kingdom, we have to contend with laws which prohibit the kinds of Free Speech which are necessary to criticise it. These are designed to suppress any of those sorts of Free Thought which might lead to anybody questioning the continued existence of The Democrats in Wales' political system, which they refer to as The United Kingdom even in the face of the obvious evidence of its consequences - that it has been dis-uniting The People of Wales and The World and setting them at each other's throats for centuries.

Amongst other things Repwblic was intended to be a sort of bulletin board upon which to pin up notices of campaigns but not a vehicle to conduct campaigns ... but ... It became obvious that in order to assure the continued existence of Repwblic, it is necessary to remove the remains of The Treason Felony Act 1848 from the statute book, which should not be so controversial because in 2003 it was effectively declared dead by The House of Lords on the basis that it contradicts The Human Rights Act 1998 ... but ... in 1998 The Labour & Cooperative Party deprived The Human Rights Act of having any real teeth because they stripped off the first three clauses in accordance with the principle of The Sovereignty of The Crown in Parliament in order to make sure that neither any of the European Courts nor The Supreme Court of The United Kingdom could over-rule them i.e. the principle established by Magna Carta that The Rule of Law is not compatible with The English Law ... And ... Now the Conservative & Unionist Party is conniving at undermining even that defective situation by opting out of the European Courts altogether so their behaviour can not even be subjected to any examination and criticism by others even though the political system called The United Kingdom is already not bound to comply with any of their their legal opinions : they can not even tolerate embarrassment let alone being subjected to The Rule of Law ...

... And ... from several weeks ago, after The United Kingdom 2015 General Election returned a government of The Conservative & Unionist Party which is blue is tooth and claw and The Labour & Cooperative Party is now determined to oppose them by not merely mimicking them but being even more reactionary in the hope of winning back a few floating voters. Hence the situation now is not merely about our speaking freely about what we are freely thinking about that, but simply everything that civilised people care about is at stake e.g. the Labour & Cooperative Party are apparently willing to destroy the very trade union rights which their own party was created to defend, created ultimately by the efforts of Republicans such as Dilke, Bradlaugh, de Morgan and Odger, to defend rights which had first ben exercised over a hundred years before hand - in the 18c ! ... And ... So another campaign has arisen which is closely allied to any workers' right not to work and any voters' right not to vote : the right of anyone to refuse to subscribe their name to The Electoral Register. ... So ... again, we find that The Labour & Cooperative Party are the foremost advocates of destroying consent as the basis of Democracy : an opinion apparently founded upon evident contempt for their constituents in expecting them to vote for them out of loyalty or just poverty which is amply illustrated by their proposal to fine and jail those who have given up on voting for them as a futile exercise ...

... So ... They allege that The People In Wales are merely apathetic and refuse to admit that The Democrats in Wales are widely held in contempt because they they are not political : they now construe politics as telling the electorate what to believe instead of listening to what they say, hence they are no longer behave as representatives elected by The People but as commissars selected by The Party. Apparently this is now the practice of all of The Democrats in Wales and The World : Republicanism predicts this in stating that Democracy unrestrained, as a political system based upon bribing and threatening the electorate, conducted in secrecy and without The Rule Of Law to protect The People from The Government, will corrupt any society. The People in Wales apparently continue to believe in what The Democrats in Wales keep telling them, that even to consider some other political system is insane, and yet they have clearly also ceased to believe in this political system called The United Kingdom. The vast majority however still believe that Democracy can be used to repair the political system : about 20% of adults in Wales think that the " Democratic " solution is to get rid of " The Monarchy " and have a " Republic " because the level of political education in Wales is abysmal and they do not understand the meaning of these words. Pure Republicans however view Democrats as " Ultraists " i.e. " beyond the bounds " and classify them along with Hierarchs, Aristocrats and Monarchs - but the latter are not to be confused with " The Royal Family." There is such a thing as " Crowned Republic " and those who want to keep " The Queen " are welcome to her - but The Treason Felony Act 1848 and other such laws which cite the mythical concept of " Sovereignty " must go because " The Rule of Law " only addresses those things which can be evidenced in a court of law : nobody can legislate to make pigs fly - even if the absence of The Court in Wales leads The Democrats in Wales to fondly imagine that they can get around such things somehow ...

( I have put the next bit in blue because I went off on " a short cut " and that allows you to easily skip over this to the next bit o'- )

Another view of this is that a crown is placed on somebody's head in accordance with The Rule of That Law, so obviously " The Sovereignty is in That Law " - and a rather better argument is that " Sovereignty is in Justice " i.e. that unjust laws are not laws at all because they thus have no sovereignty. In Democratic Republicanism the idea of a nation state's " sovereignty " is that it is what empowers the state to act on the basis of De Res Publica but whilst this means that injustice can not be in The Public Interest because it will destroy The Rule of Law, The Democrats have corrupted this judicial principle and so wherever there are Democrats they practice injustices against The People. As a further point, to understand the grotesque way in which the image of Republicans has been inverted by the propaganda of over two hundred years by the supporters of the political system mis-called The United Kingdom, the implications of this are that Republicanism lays down a very strictly law-abiding attitude : you can not pursue your political objectives by means contrary to The Public Interest and this indicates a stance which is that of either a pacifist or a pacificator i.e. either absolutely abstaining from acts of injustice or in a contended situation returning like for like in order to hold the line against injustice.

The former is by far the nobler and to have a Republican movement without a disciplined regiment of pacifists at its centre who are committed to embodying the Res Publica in the way that they live is to have a Republican movement which consists of rebels without a cause. In a way, this is sort of like the difference between cooperatives and a trade unions : the former are striving towards the values of Altruists, the latter are striving against the values of Ultraists, and both have their origins in Republicanism not Socialism - and hence so does the Labour & Cooperative Party, but in the 1980s that was subverted by Ultraists whose only objective was to use it as a vehicle to get themselves elected - and, in the light of accounts given to me, much the same happened within the Conservative & Unionist Party : Altruists were driven out of all parties and, as Republican theory predicts, Democracy is now evolving into Aristocracy - i.e. wealth not popularity will rule in politics - and the political system called The United Kingdom now offers The People in Wales and The World only bribes and threats instead of facts and arguments : this is called " De-politicisation."

Republicanism predicts that the poverty which will be the result of our society returning to Aristocracy will result in widespread crime which will escalate into chronic civil disorder and then the political response will inevitably be the development of a police state which in turn will escalate into state terrorism if there is no attempt to return to The Open Society based upon The Rule of Law. The Aristocracy will thus be compelled to finance its own destruction by paying military communities to protect its control of society and these in turn will coalesce into a Monarchy which will then seize power in order to finance itself. Monarchy is the least competent form of government and so when the Monarchists can extort no more from The People in Wales and The World and the Aristocrats' money has run out because the Monarchists have destroyed the economy through their extortions, then Republicanism predicts that the last of these stases will then collapse and The People will be hugely harmed if not deliberately destroyed by a civil war. In all likelyhood this civil war will be contrived by the Ultraists in the surrounding countries sponsoring the protagonists until they have become so weakened they can easily be conquered by those Ultraists, who typically walk in with all guns blazing declaring that they are bringing " Peace " and " The Rule of Law " etc.

Those who swallow up The United Kingdom's propaganda against Republicans think that it is this civil war scenario above that we advocate as the means to transform society - but all that such a catastrophe results in is a return to the very first stasis when The People are in a state of desperation because they are without any economic resources and so are willing to turn to some false religion and thus submit to the rule of any Hierarchy which turns up distributing bread and bandages. Basically, when The People are desperate they will agree to say that they will believe in anything - and if those Hierarchs licence them, they are willing to kill those who say that they believe in something slightly different because then they can eat their share as well. But once The People become more prosperous and tolerant again then society will evolve into Democracy - again ! - This cycle will happen again and again at varying speeds and in varying ways according to the varying circumstances unless it can be ended by finally excluding all of The Ultraists from access to power over the political system and founding it upon The Rule of Law.

The Rule of Law requires that the political system created laws that are universally and uniformly applied to everybody and that they are under constant review to test their rationality and reasonableness. The ultimate determiner of these laws is The Supreme Court which is the mountainous peak, the most passive but most powerful part of the state apparatus to which all of the other institutions of government are subject - but to prevent its power over the state apparatus being abused The Supreme Court is forbidden to make the laws, albeit that it can interpret them and thus passively make precedents ; the most active but least powerful parts of a Republican political system, where the political authority to originate laws is located in The People who Possess The Facts and Make Arguments, are the mounds and foothills of the individual campaigners and the smaller organisations advocating for particular policies and legislations - and their activities are publicly funded by a Republican state because they are the providers of the facts and arguments upon which a Republican political system is dependent.

The Rule of Law being the embodiment of The Public Interest, it is the public handbook of advice upon how to conduct consenting relationships and the basis of the curriculum in all schools in a Republican state and the aim is not to teach children to blindly obey The Rule of Law but how to be citizens eager to question it and willing to participate in the political system in order to improve it. It is important that the teaching of Republicanism does not become an opportunity for anybody to establish a Hierarchy. In Republican political systems it is important to strive to exclude all of those Ultraisms used by those who strive to represent their own private interests as being identical to The Public Interest : claims to political authority based upon Hierarchy, Democracy, Aristocracy, Monarchy and indeed any other such corrupt and corrupting strategies must be rejected. Political authority for a decision belongs only to those possessed of the facts and arguments in Republicanism - but they must explain these to others and persuade them of the merit of their political proposal : winning a vote is not winning an argument.

It is not in The Public Interest to decide matters with votes because they can be traded or bought and so - as we have so often witnessed in Wales - the practices of Democracy will inevitably corrupt any political system. Republicanism seeks to create not a political consensus but an actual change of consciousness in society so that once a better way of understanding a matter has been grasped only the perverse will continue to reject " The General Will " whereas most will be eager to understand and uphold the new law because it is advising them how to conduct their consenting relationships more successfully. Only the most perverse flout such advice and so the Republican state does not punish those it deems to be criminals but restrains them until they have understood the matter and thus come to agree with the law. Those who are convinced that they are not perverse in their objections to a law which others have consented to but they perceive to be unjust are eager to peaceably convey their understanding of its faults to those others and thus to restrain themselves until they are forced by the intransigence of others to resolve upon a course of action which they deem to be suitable for purposefully demonstrating those injustices which a badly conceieved law is causing and thus to re-present their arguments in courtrooms.

You will note that " The General Will " is not " Vox Populi, Vox Dei " and so Republicanism is definitely not the same as Democracy - it does not rest upon the idea of " The Sovereignty of The People " because it rejects the possibility of the collective sense of " The Will of The People " as being the basis of political authority. Furthermore, the idea of " Sovereignty " is to be counted simply as a superfluous mystification whose origins lie in Hierarchy. Try this experiment - go down to your local supermarket and buy two litres of your chosen oil and splash it on all over : you may feel quite regal at first ... now this sort of thing is fine for those who like that sort of thing and can do it with a bit of scarymoney but it has no place in any political system, metaphorically or otherwise ... if you believe in God, then you really ought to be strongly objecting to the theft of his Divine Sovereignty and denouncing the idea that as his creations we could ever take possession of the same power of our Creator as The Lawgiver. In religious terms, all arguments for any Earthly thing - an individual, a state, a political system etc - to possess " Sovereignty " are blasphemous : sure, Religious Republicans argue for " as above, so below " but that is their point of departure in their quest to discover " The Will of God " - they are not so impious as to claim that the laws that they make are other than made by themselves in the prayerful hope that they may be approved of by their God, and after all it is only Hierarchs who proudly assure themselves in their own reflections in the mirrors of their wordrobes that their God approves of them and that if He does not then they will surely punish Him very severely for His disobedience and will promptly reshape Him for their own better purposes - after all, He is Their God.

SO ! The Rule of Law should never be compounded with the mystical idea of Sovereignty : each law is sufficient unto itself - " The Laws Rule - OK ? "


Democrats argue that they acquire political authority by virtue of the votes cast for them in their ballots, but now that less than half of The People in Wales bother to cast a vote, because they instinctively know that The Democrats are deceiving them, The Democrats have seized upon the idea of claiming the Electoral Register as their substitute for " an electoral mandate " and licensing themselves to pass laws to place The People's names upon it without their consent. If there ever was anybody who thought that the political system called The United Kingdom was honestly conducted and was a Democracy, this violation not merely of the norms of Democracy but of the very basis of it as a form of government conducted by consent when those who in trying to defend this fundamental principle of Democracy refuse to subscribe their names to the Electoral Register are subjected to legal sanctions. This absolutely demonstrates either The Democratic Republicans' claim that The United Kingdom is Democratic but merely lacking a clearly written constitution, - or The Republican Democrats' claim that The United Kingdom is a Pure Democracy which is deliberately preventing any scrutiny by refusing to have a clearly written constitution, - or The Pure Republicans' claim that The United Kingdom is in fact an Aristocracy which is employing Democrats to run its affairs : that Democracy is a non-political system which is based upon denoting and selections not upon voting and elections.

I have over the course of my political lifetime, beginning with my reaction to the sinister adulation for The Investiture of The Prince of Wales when aged seven in 1969, moved from Democratic Republicanism through Republican Democracy until in 2013 - to my own surprise - I felt finally compelled to agree with the arguments of Pure Republicanism : that Democracy is both corrupt and corrupting, merely a mechanism and not a political system. In the past two years or so I have looked and felt quite wobbly as I publicly shredded my previous political beliefs on " Y Repwblic " without entirely knowing where I was going except that finally everything seems coherent - well, it seems so to me if not to my readers ... things are now happening in this non-political system called The United Kingdom which have confirmed to me that this was a good decision, an appropriate if not a correct one.

In re-framing my view of The United Kingdom the implications of Pure Republicanism do not lead me to change my political activities in collecting facts and making arguments but it did lead me to the conclusion that not only was voting futile but also harmful. I regard merely not voting as not an active positive act, because for me that would be a passive negative act of despondency and even more shameful than spoiling ballot papers, which I regard as merely childish vandalism which does not treat those who still believe in them with enough respect. I have had an impeccable voting record and I want to now be possessed of an impeccable non-voting record - or rather I want to positively register my vote against the political system called The United Kingdom. In the first instance I thought of trying to establish the legal right for everybody, for whatever their reasons, to refuse to have their name entered without their consent into The Electoral Register ... and then the-god-that-I-do-not-believe-in-but-have-faith-in apparently intervened in my favour ...

Whilst I was still wondering as to whether I really was mad the Coalition Government of Liberal Democrats and Conservative & Unionists and Labour & Cooperative and other Parties in the one-party political system called The United Kingdom began to worry that they had been so badly behaved over the previous seventy years that by the time of the forthcoming 2015 election they might finally be seen to be utterly discredited and nobody would vote for them at all or - even worse - Russel Brand might be elected on a no vote ... This situation was particularly bad in Wales where The Labour & Cooperative Party had plainly demonstrated the lack of credibility of the political system called The United Kingdom in Wales by taking half of the seats in the Welsh Assembly on merely 16.7% of the available votes. In order to remedy the patent lack of a Democratic mandate, they devised the Electoral Registration and Administration Act 2013 which contained two significant innovations -

( A ) instead of there being a civil penalty of £1000 for refusing to perform the duty of naming the other criminals in the household who were not obediently turning up to vote for their betters, they introduced individual registration - but kept the £1000 civil penalty for not volunteering our own names, yet now there was no agency involved i.e. the duty of acting on behalf of the state had ceased, and so it became a straightforward threat of the same crude sort which was on the statute books centuries ago. For example, when those who objected to what was then a Monarchy called The United Kingdom in the 17c were used as a ready source of cash in the form of a steady stream of fines extracted by " Tendering The Oath " in which case if in good conscience as a Republican you refused they imprisoned you for the first offence, hanged you for the second - and for the third they then dug you up and hanged you again and again and again ... until your widow finally ran out of money ... Before that they fined The People for going to the wrong church on Sundays, for going to the right church on Sundays, for not going to church at all and for going to church every Sunday but having opinions about it ...

( B ) is the provision in the Electoral Registration and Administration Act 2013 which ought to offend not only Republicans but those who truly care about Democracy too : because of the falling numbers of The People Who Register To Vote, The Democrats in Wales and Westminster have decided that the Electoral Registration Officers are to scour all records that they can lay their hands upon and enter the names which they can find into The Electoral Register. This is portrayed as The Democrats helping The People to vote, but the names registered not only include those who have moved away and those who are dead but also those who positively did not want to have their names placed on The Electoral Register ( for various reasons.) This is also suggestive of a return to certain infamous historical precedents in the exceedingly corrupt political practices of 17c and 18c Wales when The Electoral Registers were manipulated in various ways to ensure the correct results. In particular I have in mind the 1660 election, when all of The Republicans in Cardiff were arrested and imprisoned the night before to ensure that they could not cast a vote against the local Aristocracy. The following morning the Aristocrats produced a number of electors who had never been registered before and announced as their candidate one Mr Ffloyd who was no where to be seen but in due course was obediently elected. The Aristocrats then sent the election return to London where an officer was sent by The House of Commons to Mr Ffloyd who was most confused : he had never before visited Cardiff and in 1660 he had already been elected as a Member of Parliament for somewhere else.

Now I am a meticulous ticker of boxes and ex-directory forever because there are a lot of The People who have been told that " Republicans Are Terrorists " and therefore some of them fondly imagine that beating the crap out of a frail lame ill white-haired lil' ol' man like me is in The Public Interest and therefore they will be acclaimed as An 'Ero ... One of my complaints about The Electoral Registration Officers is that they are yet another bunch of The People who are excused The Rule Of Law : there are a number of reports of complaints about the names and addresses of The People Who Tick Boxes being sold and there being nothing to be done. Besides this they also fail to enter names on The Electoral Register and so many companies use it to establish the identity of customers etc even those who want to be on it suffer inconveniences. If you still think that dispensing with " Government by Consent " as the fundamental underlying principle of Democracy is not a dangerous idea, think of what will happen to you when the definition of " Democracy " in The United Kingdom begins to subtly shift away from what you thought it was right to criminalise anyone for disagreeing with : what will you be able to do about it if Compulsory Registration becomes Compulsory Voting and then that in turn leads to Compulsory Happiness ? Should we not challenge this evil as soon as possible and before it becomes an established practice, rather than leave many future generations to just grin and bear it ?


I feel deeply antagonised that the response of The Democrats in Wales and Westminster in not receiving The Consent of The People by obtaining sufficient votes in their elections to secure a mandate has been to dismiss the disaffection of the electorate as either ignorance or laziness and then to disregard the necessity of obtaining a positive endorsement from them as the fundamental basis for Democracy. I find it offensive that The Democrats not only reached for The Electoral Register as a substitute for The Consent of The People - but then in finding The Electoral Register to be nearly as empty as The Ballot Box they then not only disregarded that fundamental principle of Democracy but then added insult to the injury by excusing themselves once again from The Rule of Several Laws - which otherwise they insist upon applying to us - and taking without positive consent tens of millions of names from various public records in order to fix The Electoral Register so that they can use it to fake the appearance of having a Democratic mandate whilst loudly shouting and screaming about how everybody must believe in Democracy and how anyone must be a criminal who questions as to whether their political system called The United Kingdom is in any sense legitimate let alone functional and effective or just : this is the sort of behaviour which I have dubbed " Demockery."

Which puts me in a bizarre sort of fix : having decided to campaign for the right not merely to not vote but to not register to vote on the grounds of conscience - and presumeably that only makes sense as a political protest if there is another register created to record the names of those who do not want their names to be entered upon The Register of Electors i.e. " The Register of Voters Who Refuse To be Registered To Vote " would be the political objective to aim at : to enable the 12 - 15 millions of The People in Britain and Northern Ireland who are not merely passively feeling disaffected towards the political system called The United Kingdom but who want to positively object to it would be able to do so ... and at this point Dafydd will immediately allege that all of the Muslims will band together and make the rest of us live in some Islamic Republic ... Personally I can not see why he objects to that ISIS lot really, given his love affair with the idea of dispatching his various political and chess opponents with a guillotine : after all a scimitar is a much more portable and like the cutlass its outwardly curved blade is designed for fighting at close quarters in confined spaces. I can imagine that a scimitar could be the very weapon of choice for him down at the pub quiz ... in fact he might even be able to argue that it is merely a fashion statement of sorts if he sticks it with rosettes and slings it across that apron wherein he keeps his cockade ...

... So perhaps I should finish writing tonight with this thought in mind : if funds are to be appealed for to challenge the Electoral Registration and Administration Act 2013 it may be best that they should be kept separately from any funds being used for Repwblic ... so I should create a sort of general fund for assisting The Republicans in Wales ... Cock Aid ?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might say " Why bother with money or even with campaigns - Repwblic has declined into your blog dai ! " ... Well, yes and no : Repwblic is not working as intended, with a synergetic momentum in which somebody looks at a thread and then adds to it - but it has hundreds of thousands of hits from tens of thousands of viewers ... being from an older generation used to engaging with arguments I am perplexed at the behaviour of those who sign up as members and just gawp at what I write whilst not even going so far as adding a " lol " ... but the lack of other writers besides Marianne does not detract from the purpose of Repwblic of placing on view and in one place some genuine examples of Republican thought ... but I can not do it all : Repwblic is not an academic journal nor an encyclopaedia but a writers' project with the theme of Republicanism ... Now I do look at the news but I rarely bother to comment upon transient events because I am looking for things to use as vehicles for transcendent themes to write about, albeit I am tending to be very formulaic recently in order to emphasise certain basic ideas ... but ...

... as this Conservative & Unionist government elected in 2015 gets into its stride the whole slant of their pronouncements is beginning to worry me : I already wrote to my MP asking him to seize the opportunity to call for a vote of no confidence when it was disclosed that Cameron had entered the election without telling the electorate that he had sent pilots to bomb ISIS in Syria and when The House of Commons had explicitly decided to stay out of the war in Syria : again, this is fundamentally dishonest politics and it demonstrates both the corruption of The Democrats and of their non-political system called The United Kingdom ... quite aside from the fact that in this non-political system there is a file upon everybody and everybody from the unborn to the long dead are under suspicion for being potential terrorists, what are we to do then as their critics when Cameron has now begun to publicly argue that pacifists are inciting violence and are in league with his enemies ? ... The Democrats in Wales certainly seem to be about to plunge The People in Wales into mass paranoia again in the hope that they can get a few votes out of it : but this time they have very much over-stepped the line, and it really does not matter how many of us - or rather how few of us - are willing to challenge them, it is now a matter of moral imperative ... something somehow somewhere sometime must be done.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jul/20/the-four-pillars-of-david-camerons-counter-extremism-strategy

The four pillars of David Cameron's counter-extremism strategy - the PM outlines his five-year strategy to tackle subversive doctrine and defeat extremism

An ideology that at its furthest end seeks to destroy nation states to invent its own REPWBLICAN realm. That – in the words of the prime minister, David Cameron – is what defines REPWBLICAN extremism. ... Defeating REPWBLICAN extremism is the “struggle of our generation”, Cameron said on Monday, as he outlined four pillars of a five-year strategy in tackling the “subversive” doctrine. ...

Tackle the violent and non-violent

The prime minister said the new strategy would take steps to confront groups and organisations that might not advocate violence but do promote extremism. ... Cameron pledged to introduce “narrowly targeted powers” to tackle hate SCRIBBLERS and cult SATIRICISTS who promote extremist views and material. ... Cameron said he would set up a new community engagement forum to hear directly from DEMOCRATIC groups who are challenging REPWBLICAN extremism. He also took a moment to “challenge” British broadcasters to reconsider giving airtime to extremists. The BBC has been criticised in the past for inviting radical QUAKER DAVID B LAWRENCE on its programmes. ...

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Given the various things that have happened since 2012, not just the string of incidents with computers and smart phones but also the number of really friendly strangers who were so chatty and happened to ask all of these questions which revealed that they had so much in common with me and who thankfully disappeared as soon as the general election was over, I began to sense that things could get much worse than this : I am told that one very elderly gentleman has finally got fed up and quit and gone to Israel because he felt that the political system called The United Kingdom now looks and feels like the Nazi Regime which he grew up in ... now those who can not learn from the mistakes of others are condemned to repeat the lessons of history until they finally understand them ...

... I criticise the United States of America for having become a Monarchy, and of course Obama has just been asserting earlier this week that The United Kingdom is his favouritish and bestish of allies in The War Against Terrorism ... but in America they still have some Free Speech over there and a legal system which partially works and both websites are located on American servers ... so why not relocate all of Repwblic's electronic life to the other side of the Atlantic, for safety's sake - since the Un-tied Kingdom is now beginning to publicly turn its face against anybody talking politics ?


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Well, in accordance with principles of " The Open Conspiracy " the financial affairs of Repwblic have to be laid bare to all : but where are they to be located ?

THE REASON FOR LOOKING AT THE COOPERATIVE BANK IS BECAUSE IT WAS CREATED BY THE COOPERATIVE UNION WHICH ALONG WITH THE TRADE UNION CONGRESS WAS CREATED BY THE NINETEENTH CENTURY REPUBLICAN MOVEMENT : THE ORIGINAL LABOUR PARTY WAS CREATED BY THE T.U.C. IN 1893 AND THE far too COOPERATIVE zombie PARTY BY THE C.U. IN 1917 ( AND IT WAS FOUNDED BY THE C.U. CONGRESS IN SWANSEA.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Labour_Party - DO NOT CONFUSE WITH THE FAKE - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK)

- WHOSE WIKIPEDIA PAGE DOES NOT EVEN RECORD THE 1938 / 1946 ELECTION PACTS WITH - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-operative_Party

[ I HAVE A LONG HISTORY WITH THE COOPERATIVE MOVEMENT AND I AM VERY BITTER ABOUT THE CORPSE OF THE COOPERATIVE PARTY BEING PROPPED UP IN THE LABOUR PARTY'S EMPORIUM WINDOW : IN THE EARLY 1980s I REFUSED TO JOIN THE COOPERATIVE PARTY BECAUSE THE PEOPLE HANDLING MY APPLICATION FOR MEMBERSHIP WERE LABOUR PARTY COMMISSARS WHO INSISTED THAT MY MEMBERSHIP IN MY OWN PARTY WAS CONDITIONAL UPON AGREEING TO SUPPORT THEIRS ... THESE WERE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WERE DENOUNCING ANYBODY WHO ASKED ANY QUESTIONS AS " TROTSKYISTS " AND " MILITANT SYMPATHISERS " ETC ... THESE ARE THE VERY SAME WANKERS WHO HAVE LEFT CARDIFF IN SUCH A MESS. HENCE INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO SPEND OUR TIME DOING CONSTRUCTIVE THINGS ( E.G. TODAY I LEARNT THAT I WON A LITTLE VICTORY LAST WEEK - BUT I LOST IT TO ONE OF THESE WANKERS : I PERSUADED A CORPORATION TO PROVIDE A CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA - BUT OF COURSE REPUBLICANS CAN NOT BE CREDITED WITH CONSTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOUR ... SO THOSE PICTURED PLAYING IN IT BY THE WESTERN MAFIA PLC WERE THE LABOUR PARTY'S WANKERS POSING WITH THEIR CONSERVATIVE PARTY BANKERS ) WE HAVE TO SPEND OUR TIME RUNNING AROUND TRYING TO REPAIR THE DESTRUCTIVE THINGS WHICH THE DEMOCRATS IN WALES OF ALL PARTIES DO IN THE NAME OF WHAT SURELY CAN ONLY BE CALLED " DEMOCKERY." ]

Very Happy ... What is this below ? ... An on-line chat with The Cooperative's Operatives ... " COCHaDU " = the acronym reads as " REDandBLACK " in Welsh = the Anarcho-Republicanism of my youth ...

The " Cooperative Communal Housing and Development Union " was my rather ambitious attempt in my twenties to argue how to hybridise the community, housing, worker's cooperatives together with the housing associations and credit unions ... but nobody bought it ... The Democrats in Westminster starved the Housing Cooperatives of the necessary legislation to enable us to compete with commercial concerns - i.e. the Housing Associations which were given a river of cash which they promptly pissed away by creating very expensive slums. Given twenty-twenty hindsight, I think that the plan was / is to privatise the Housing Associations in order to plunder their remaining capital ... So just watch this space : Cameron and May will find a way ... too sublime to rhyme ...

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info: - Welcome to The Co-operative Bank Web Chat Service. An adviser will be with you shortly.
info: - You are now connected with an advisor.
James: - Hello, you are chatting to James.
James: - I'm currently reviewing your query and will be with you shortly
James: - Hi David.
James: - Are you after a Business account for a club/society?
David: - not sure : this idea is non-standard - shall i try to describe it ?
James: - If it's going to be a personal account for you to use for yourself then I can help.
James: - If it's for a club or society then I'll need to transfer you to a Business adviser.
James: - Would you like me to transfer you to Business?
David: At the moment I am sort of operating that way : for eight years or more I have been administrating a bulletin board repwblic.informe.com which deals in much stuff supposedly political, jokes, poetry - sort of trying to redeem republican heritage of 18c 19c Wales - anyhow : that costs me nothing except time and frustration - but it is very big websit and could yield advertising revenue - I can not put this in my own bank account though.
James: - Right ok, let me transfer you to Business to discuss further.
info: - You are now connected with an advisor.
Rakhi: - Hello, you are chatting to Rakhi.
Rakhi: - I'm currently reviewing your query and will be with you shortly
Rakhi: - Hi David
Rakhi: - Are you looking at opening an account with us?
David: - It is a sort of hybrid odd situation : an international club of sorts located in a vitual reality - repwblic.infrme.com is on a server in the USA - repwblic.org is on a server in another USA state - latter costs me money out of my pocket - former could yield revenue - can not go through my personal bank account - anomolous sort of club.
Rakhi: - Thanks. I just need a minute to read through your message.
David: - What I have in mind is a third entity which could accept donations for all sorts of purposes and disburse funds - provisionally titled " Cock Aid " - that's an example of the kind of word play to be found on repwblic.informe.com.
Rakhi: - Just to let you know to have an account with us you will need to be a UK resident
David: - Yes, unfortunately I am a resident of the UK - but I am hoping to bring that situation to an end ... any decade now - I was a business customer of yours a ong time ago, so long ago it seems like a bad dream - a/c COCHaDU
Rakhi: - Smile
Rakhi: - Ok what I can do is send you a link with the different accounts we offer?
David: - Thanks : but if you paste it into this conversation, perhaps I can send this to an email address ?
Rakhi: - Business Accounts
David: - GOSH
David: - Will that appear as a URL if I forward this to repwblic's email ? I have not got it open at the moment to check.
Rakhi: - You will have to open this.
Rakhi: - http://www.co-operativebank.co.uk/business/currentaccounts
Rakhi: - This is the web page
Rakhi: - This you can just email to yourself
David: - could you n - THANKS ! - Would you like to ask me any questions ?
Rakhi: - No that's fine David
Rakhi: - I only provide general information through web chat.
David: - Da bo'chi ! ( BYE ! )
Rakhi: - Thanks for chatting today. Have a really good day!
David: - Hwyl !
info: - - A copy of this chat transcript will be sent to repwblic@jotmale.co.uk at the end of this chat.
Rakhi: - Smile
David: - Don't tell me - let me guess : Asian and Welsh ? ... excuse me if that may offend you, but English people often scowl at people using Welsh online !
Rakhi: - I'm actually Asian
David: - I really have to stop now - thanks !
Rakhi: - ha ok

Rolling Eyes

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_co-operative_movement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Co-operative_Group

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Co-operative_Bank

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smile_(bank)

http://www.co-operativebank.co.uk/

http://www.co-operativebank.co.uk/business/currentaccounts

http://www.co-operativebank.co.uk/business/community/community-directplus

With Community Directplus, you and your organisation will:
Benefit from free banking
Receive interest on credit balances of £25,000 or more
Have the freedom to manage your account online, over the telephone, at the Post Office® or by post
Have the opportunity to apply for project funding from the Customer Donation Fund
Easily switch all your direct debits and standing orders over to us using our account switching service.

Wouldn't it be loverley - LOVERLEY ! - but NOT LIKERLEY ... http://www.co-operativebank.co.uk/business/community/donation-fund-winners

[ JUST LOOK AT HOW THE REPUBLICANS IN ENGLAND ARE MISTREATED : SEE IF YOU CAN FIND PETER KELLOW ( DRP ) IN THIS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5fW7sERw7I ]

( Very Happy Peter is a damn sight more credible as a Republican - and a credit to The Republicans in England - and the rest of The World - http://democraticrepublicanparty.co.uk/ )

SEE : THERE IS THE PROBLEM - I ADMINISTRATE THIS FROM MY HOME ADDRESS IN CARDIFF BUT REPWBLIC.ORG'S MEMBERSHIP IS NOW INTERNATIONAL - POSSIBLY EVEN BECOMING INTERGALACTIC ... THERE ARE EVEN A FEW WELSH PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT " Y REPWBLIC YNG NGHYMRU " ...

( NOT " The Republic OF Wales " - that sort of thing is something else, exactly the kind of thing which by association has destroyed the reputation of Republicanism. )

- " Have a business address in the UK " - " Reside in the UK " - WHAT HAPPENS IF A FUTURE ADMINISTRATOR IS IN E.G. EUROPE OR AMERICA ? OR CHINA ? OR INDIA ?


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[ http://www.co-operative.coop/membership/ ]

http://www.smile.co.uk/

The Co-operative Bank p.l.c., P.O. Box 101, 1 Balloon Street, Manchester, M60 4EP. Registered in England and Wales No. 990937. smile is a trading name of The Co-operative Bank

http://www.smile.co.uk/assets/pdf/smile/currentaccounts/smilecurrentaccount/terms-and-conditions-5-jul.pdf

1.3 You can only use your Account as a personal account. You must not use it as a club, charity,sole trader, company, partnership or other kind of business account or for any business purposes. Failure to comply with this requirement may lead to the Bank giving you notice to close your Account in accordance with condition 19.2

6.1 You may send payments to an account within the European Economic Area (EEA) in sterling, euro or the currency of the EEA state where the account is held.

6.2 Instructions for overseas payments that are not in sterling can be made by contacting us on 08457 558 888 or see our website smile.co.uk/foreign for further details.

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OH WELL ... PERHAPS I SHOULD THINK MORE COSMOPOLITAN-ALLY ... I wonder if I could quickly knock up one of their psychobabbly quizzicals ...

... the BBC World Service is on behind me ... uh-ho ... http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2015/07/10/china-stock-market-street-market.cnnmoney/ ... ? ...

... who needs a well greeced economy anyway - the one in Greece was ... http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2015/07/27/yanis-varoufakis-plan-b-greece.cnnmoney/

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http://www.barclayscorporate.com/

Many people know that Barclays was once a Quaker bank, fewer know that it has recently gone back on the federal principle by which it was rebuilt after a disastrous run on the original group of associated but independently operated family based banks which made a disastrous miscalculation in allowing the successive discounting of government bonds in the middle of the 19c resulting in a disastrous run where one bank after another collapsed : the Religious Society of Friends were furious that their reputation for integrity in business was damaged and they made all of the surviving banks pick up the debts of the bankrupt ones and pay back all of the creditors every farthing ... can you imagine Barclays ever doing that now ? ... The trouble with these large trans-national corporate concerns is that they are too big to fail so The Democrats in Wales and The World bail them out because if their economies fail this has very serious political consequences for themselves : they might not be elected, so those stricken by poverty must bail out those stricken by riches i.e. the poor have to pay the rich for the privilege of the rich making them poor ... and so on and so on e.g. support your local sheriff by lynching yourselves ...

... Now let me tell you a story about Barclays Bank which I adore : they recently received complaints in Europe about their eagle being black so they beat it blue several years ago. The complaint was that it was a " Nazi " eagle, but actually the Nazis stole the German Eagle ( with red claws ) which originally was not an eagle at all but The Raven : most probably an actual raven which was crucified on a cross-bar carried on a pole, a pagan war standard of a sort common in Celtic and Teutonic tribes. The Romans' Eagle apparently originated in this and having captured one of these war standards they carried it in triumph back to Rome where it was admired and adopted, just as later The Dragon standard was ( and that was not a flag but a kind of sock full of wind which was attached to a fierce face with a large mouth which flapped around whilst it made a lot of noise - and of course that was in turn adopted by and has been much identified with The Welsh.)

Anyhow, in medieval times a pope awarded a Germanic royal family the title Holy Roman Emperor and insisted that their black raven was instead The Holy Roman Eagle ( which it was not.) As a consequence it was a very popular sign and not just for over pubs etc, even after the Protestant Reformation, because it was counted mythically as symbolic of a messenger from God etc ... and in the 17c this was the sign over the printing shop of Giles and Elizabeth Calvert which is now 54 Lombard Street in London which in 1728 was taken over by Barclays Bank : before the building had a number their address was " at the sign of the Black Spread Eagle " which is the address printed by Calvert on most of the important pamphlets which he published for The Levellers, The Diggers, The Ranters, The Quakers ... etc ...

" The Black Spread Eagle " in the 1650s was synonymous with The Republicans in ( mostly ) England and ( also ) Wales who resolutely resisted The Protectorate, and it was one of the historical sources of the " Black and White " motifs in Republicanism in Wales and England but which can be traced forever backwards into European history. I particularly like the associations which " At The Sign of The Black Spread Eagle " has with Giles and Elizabeth Calvert as " The First Publishers of Truth " i.e. the way in which The Green Faction resolutely resisted The Blue Faction overthrowing Bradshaw's Republic of Great Britain and Ireland and subverting it with Cromwell's Protectorate ... I particularly like the way in which these very late Renaissance Republicans - standing on the threshold of early Neo-Classical Republicanism which would soon spawn Hobbes and Locke - set out their arguments : in Black and White.

SO ... BARCLAYS' EAGLE HAS HAD A LONG AND HONOURABLE RADICAL HISTORY ... BUT NOW IT IS LOOKING RATHER BLUE ... HAS IT ANY REASON TO BE SO ... ?

http://www.barclayscorporate.com/products-and-solutions.html

OH DEAR ... NOT VERY QUAKER NOW ...

http://www.barclayscorporate.com/sector-expertise/manufacturing-transport-and-logistics/aerospace-and-defence.html

... WELL REPWBLIC IS INVOLVED IN GLOBAL DEVELOPMENT ... AND WE PROVIDE A LITTLE INTERNATIONAL COMIC RELIEF ... BUT TOO LITTLE FOR BARCLAYS ?

http://www.barclayscorporate.com/sector-expertise/global-development-organisations.html

" ... Innovation in mobile payments and cashless solutions ... WELL I THINK THAT WE ALL HAVE MOBILES AND NONE OF US HAVE ANY CASH ...

SOUNDS GOOD ... " Citizenship at Barclays "

" Barclays has a clear sense of its business purpose: to help people achieve their ambitions – in the right way. Finance and banking can play a critical role as an enabler of social and economic progress, growth and development. ... At Barclays, Citizenship is about the way the bank does business, contributes to growth, and supports communities. Barclays’ community investment activity focuses on projects that help build the financial, enterprise and life skills of the next generation. ... To support our commitment to help 5 million disadvantaged young people by 2015, we are investing not only money, but also our time and expertise, in community programmes that enhance the enterprise, employability and financial literacy skills of young people."

http://www.barclayscorporate.com/uk-global-corporate-banking-presence/uk-ireland/wales.html

" ... 30% Market Share ... 85 branches ... 2 corporate banking offices, providing regional expertise that is relevant to your business ... a strong team of regional and industry experts to help take your business forward ... regular networking events designed to offer valuable industry insight, as well as new business connections ... Celtic Manor ... a perfect example of what can be achieved by playing the long game ... The Welsh Rugby Union Limited ( WRU ) ... the pitch during the last few years ... traditional banking services ... "

MMM ... this is Barclays' " Citizenship " page - http://www.home.barclays/citizenship.html

I AM SURPRISED TO FIND THAT BARCLAYS ARE NOT FORTHCOMING WITH INFORMATION ABOUT LOCAL BANKING FOR CLUBS AND CHARITIES ...

http://www.barclayscorporate.com/sector-expertise/public-sector/not-for-profit-charities.html

... OK ... THEY JUST WANT CORPORATE CUSTOMERS WITH LOTS OF MONEY TO INVEST ... I JUST CAN NOT IMAGINE WHY ...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Trust_Bank ... https://www.unity.co.uk/

" ... Unity Trust Bank Plc provides specialist banking services to trades unions and charities in the United Kingdom. ... Individual trades unions and federations own a majority 73.23% of the bank. The Co-operative Bank Plc, which supplied management expertise in the initial launch period, owns a 26.66% stake through its subsidiary Co-operative Commercial Limited. Certain individuals own the remaining 0.11% of the total equity capital between them.[5] Staff also hold a share of the bank's future, as they all hold shares through the Employee Ownership Scheme. ... In its founding principles, the bank was established as “an organisation identified with and embracing the philosophy of the common good.” ... "

https://www.unity.co.uk/who-we-are/about-us/

" ... Unity is a specialist bank for organisations and businesses that aim to create community, social or environmental benefit. With over 30 years experience in the sector, we provide tailored day-to-day banking and finance to charities, social enterprises, co-operatives, voluntary and community organisations, trade unions, councils, housing associations and more. ...

https://www.unity.co.uk/current-account/small-organisation-custom-account/

Our dedicated account offering free day-to-day banking for small or new start up organisations with an annual turnover of less than £50,000.

https://www.unity.co.uk/content/uploads/Terms-and-Conditions-effective-13-July-v2.pdf

“You” means the person or body ( which may include unincorporated associations ) in whose name an Account is opened and held, and includes each Authorised User, Registered User, Signatory and any other individual linked to your Account.

7.2 Individuals who are authorised to give instructions on the Accounts of
unincorporated entities, for example some Clubs, Charities, Churches and
Societies, are jointly and severally liable for monies owed to us ( see 7.4 )

7.4 Joint Account holders (including partnerships) are jointly and severally liable for money owed to us. This means that when two or more people are parties to an Account, they are each individually responsible for the full amount of any borrowing on the Account.

We have the right to:

(i) demand repayment from all Account holders by taking one action against you all ( jointly ); or

(ii) take a separate action against each of you, or any one or more of you
individually (severally).

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MY BRAIN IS ACHING : THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF SMALLER BANKS ... I WAS THINKING OF USING A COMMUNITY COOPERATIVE MODEL BUT ...

http://www.resourcecentre.org.uk/information/legal-structures-for-community-and-voluntary-groups/#Unincorporated association

" ... An unincorporated association is a membership organisation. It can be whatever its members want it to be, and carry out whatever activity you choose. It is the easiest, quickest and cheapest way for a group to set itself up. This structure is suitable for groups such as playgroups, pensioners associations, film clubs, arts groups and campaigning groups. ... You do not have to seek approval of any kind before setting up an unincorporated association, nor do you have to register with any regulatory body. [ WELL - NOT YET : CAMERON MAY FIX THAT ] ... You are not obliged to keep a membership list unless there is a membership fee – anyone who is entitled by your rules to be a member can simply turn up and take part. [ WITH 1,000+ SUPPOSED MEMBERS AFTER EIGHT YEARS AND 70,000+ READERS OF REPWBLIC EACH YEAR THIS IS PROBABLY THE ONLY PRACTICAL OPTION ] ... However, it can be useful to keep a list so you can inform all your members of meetings, and know who is entitled to vote. [ BUT I THINK REPWBLIC HAS TO BE A NOMOCRACY AND REJECT DEMOCRACY ] ... You are free to draw up your own democratic constitution setting out the rules under which your group will be run. [ OH HELL : NOW I HAVE TO KNOCK UP A NOMOCRATIC CONSTITUTION ... DO I NOT HAVE ENOUGH TO DO ALREADY ? ] ... It may be best to adopt the Charity Commission’s own model constitution for a charitable unincorporated association or model constitution for small charities. [ OH SURE - LIKE THE CHARITY COMMISSIONERS ARE GOING TO ENDORSE A DIS-ORGANISATION DAY-DREAMING OF GETTING RID OF THE UNITED KINGDOM AND ARGUING FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF COSMOPOLIS ? ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_Commission_for_England_and_Wales

https://www.gov.uk/how-to-register-your-charity-cc21b#charities-that-dont-have-to-register/

Small unincorporated charities

If your charity is based in England and Wales and isn’t a CIO, you don’t have to apply to register it if its annual income is less than £5,000. But you can still apply to HM Revenue and Customs for recognition as a charity to get charity tax breaks and claim gift aid.

You can apply to the commission to register this sort of charity voluntarily but the commission will only consider applications in exceptional circumstances. For example, if you can prove that your charity has been offered significant funds but has to provide a registered charity number before it can receive the funds.

‘Excepted’ charities

Some charities don’t have to register with the commission if their income is below a particular threshold (currently £100,000 a year). These ‘excepted charities’ include:

churches and chapels of some Christian denominations (and funds connected with them)
charitable funds of the armed forces
Scout and Guide groups
If your charity is a local branch of a larger charity it may not have to register unless it’s independent (for example, it controls its own funds). Check with your parent organisation to see if you need to register.

Read the commission’s guidance Excepted charities for more information.

[ I WONDER IF THE ILLUMINATI QUALIFY AS A CHRISTIAN ATHEIST DIS-ORGANISATION ? ... AND HOW DO THESE NEO-FASCIST NATIONALIST PARAMILITARY ORGANISATIONS LIKE THE GIRL GUIDES AND ZELP FOR ZEROS QUALIFY FOR THIS EXEMPTION WHEN AGGRESSIVE PACIFISTS LIKE US DO NOT ? ]

YES : REPWBLIC OR COCK AID OR WHATEVER NEEDS A BANK ACCOUNT.

NO : WE DO NOT WANT ANY RELATIONSHIPS WITH ANY NATION-STATES.

UNLESS WE CAN NOT AVOID IT : NO I AM NOT THINKING OF " BIT COIN."
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not going at this as methodically as I normally do in financial matters, but then I normally do not try to take in such a large number of options : in looking over the subject it is notable how many lists claiming to be of " banks in the UK " are seriously deficient. E.g. even in Cardiff not many are aware of there ever having been a Bank of Wales ( taken over and disappeared ) or of the Julian Hodge Bank which is a sort of fragment of that which now remains ... I might as well give them a plug - because of this politically useful contribution by them :

Julian Hodge Institute Of Applied Macroeconomics - http://www.julianhodgebank.com/group/jhiam.html

" ... The main aim of the Institute is to carry out research into the behaviour of the UK economy and to study in particular its relationship with the other economies of Europe. ... The Institute’s work has been given special relevance in recent times by the ongoing discussions on the extra powers regularly requested by the European Union and also by the recent crisis in the Eurozone. Its research further extends across international trade, money and banking, international finance and econometrics, in collaboration with around twenty academics, mostly in Cardiff, and some thirty PhD students. ... The Institute also holds an Annual Lecture in Cardiff, sponsored by Julian Hodge Bank, on important policy issues of the day. ... The topics have included monetary policy, climate change, flat taxes in Eastern Europe to the issue of growth in Wales. ... " ... The following page contains links to pdf files of past lectures e.g. The Flat Tax - Lessons From Tax Reform in Slovakia ( 2006 ) by Ludovit Odor ( Member of the Bank Board of the National Bank of Slovakia.)

http://www.julianhodgebank.com/group/jhiam_lecture_history.html

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banks_in_the_United_Kingdom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trustee_Savings_Bank

I was reminded of the Julian Hodge Bank when I looked at Wikipedia's list - as an occasional contributor I do tend to over-use Wikipedia - but I have been surprised by how in looking for lists to prompt my thoughts on this matter how many of these lists are most certainly defective e.g. Triodos is usually absent - it is based in the Netherlands, but many of those which you might think are " British " are not e.g. the " TSB " is now part of Banco Sabadell : for those of us now grey and knackered, many of us had a bank account as a child with the original Trustee Savings Bank because it was " The People's Bank " and administered by trustees - and thus it was regulated by an act of parliament and independent and ... no ... it was one of the first things thieved by Margaret Thatcher and sold off and thus she deliberately destroyed the major working-class financial institution built up over more than one hundred years, flogging off all of its assets for nowt and yet there is still a bank parading around using the title " TSB " when it is not that institution any more. I am one of those who regard this as one of the greatest political crimes of the 20c : it really was straight theft - just because the TSB was regulated by an act of parliament did not mean that it belonged to the government, any more than the Building Societies which the Thatcherites also declared that they could legislate to destroy by de-mutualisations in which entryists simply opened an account with £1 in order to get a vote and then demanded that there be a demutualisation vote and walked away with £1000, dividing capital assets created by the efforts of generations of those who believed in building societies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demutualization

As a consequence this led into the spiral upwards of mortgage rates and house prices, and the spiral downwards of sizes and standards of housing design : now they have become privately owned the dis-Trusted Savings Bank and the non-Building Societies are actually causing the same problems which they were originally created to solve - and yet the Thatcherites claimed that they were in favour of recreating " the property-owning democracy of the 19c " ... and The People in Wales believed them because they are not only not taught the history of Wales by the United Kingdom's mis-educational institutions - and they do not even want to know it. Those who will not learn from others' mistakes are condemned to repeat them and then bequest the harmful and expensive consequences to future generations to sort out whilst themselves pocketing what prove to be trivial temporary gains which as often as greedy morons they are conned out of by the next bunch of Democrats to excite their interest. Thus the legacies of Thatcherism and Blairism in Wales' damaged rail, road and services infrastructure and defective housing stock are crippling our economic opportunities : Pure Democracy as conducted by threats and bribes, presenting The Public Interest as merely the sum total mess that remains after the contest between private interests, is Pure Destructivity.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthroposophy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triodos_Bank

" ... Triodos Bank N.V. is a bank based in the Netherlands with branches in Belgium, Germany, United Kingdom and Spain. It claims to be a pioneer in ethical banking. Triodos Bank finances companies which it thinks add cultural value and benefit both people and the environment. That includes companies in the fields of solar energy, organic farming or culture. The name Triodos is derived from the Greek "τρὶ ὁδος - tri hodos," meaning "three-way approach" (people, planet, profit). It is influenced by the anthroposophical movement. ... Triodos is unusual in that it only lends to businesses and charities judged to be of social or ecological benefit. This "positive screening" extends its policies beyond those of ethical banks which solely avoid investing in companies judged to be doing harm ("negative screening"). ... The Bank uses money deposited by close to 100,000 savers and lends it to hundreds of organisations, such as fair trade initiatives, organic farms, cultural and arts initiatives, renewable energy projects, and social enterprises. ... Savers can open conventional savings accounts, as well as ethical funds and venture capital. Triodos also has an active international department, supporting microfinance initiatives across the developing world. Triodos is the only commercial bank in the UK to provide an annual list of all the loans the bank has made. ... The bank was founded as an anthroposophical initiative. The bank's statutes were committed to anthroposophical principles until 1999, but in later years, the bank has broadened its appeal. ... "


UH-Huh ... Well, I am not so keen on Anthroposophy because I have had my encounters with the devotees of Steiner's educational ideas ... but ... oh, well - but ...

https://www.triodos.co.uk/en/business/ethical-current-accounts/social-venture-account/about/

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Perhaps my thoughts on this matter are too pedestrianically hippily-dippily ... I mean, I suppose, that whilst normally I would prefer to knit my own bank account or use one which I had already constructed earlier out of zippy-backed-elastic ... perhaps I should be trying to get my head around the fact of Repwblic's internationalism being painfully real : if I invite the readers to send in donations I might find them arriving in Euros, Dollars, Yen, bottle-tops ... Cock Aid may need to be able to efficiently receive and dispense funds in places that I have never even heard of ... I am not even sure as to whether I feel stirred or shaken by this ... Being a member of the jot set I only possess a licence to thrill, not an international bank account ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/expat-money/8523589/Do-expats-need-offshore-bank-accounts.html

" What’s the point of an offshore bank account ? ... For expats there are three main reasons why an offshore bank account may be beneficial :

They can offer potential tax efficiency

"If the expat in question is resident in a low or no-tax nation then the tax efficient argument may hold some water, "

They can give flexibility and convenience

"However, the main reason for the majority of expats to consider opening an offshore bank account is the potential flexibility they will gain."

They can provide a secure location for funds

"... and if he/she is in a country with a less than secure banking environment or where the local currency is extremely volatile, then having a secure offshore account can also make sense."


... NORMALLY I WOULD BE INCLINED TO JUST WANDER INTO THE POST OFFICE OR MY BANK AND ASK FOR SOME SORT OF SUITABLE ACCOUNT BUT FOR THIS SORT OF THING GOING ON ...

http://thirdforcenews.org.uk/tfn-news/over-zealous-banks-seizing-charity-cash

Banks seize charity cash over terror funding fears ... Banks freezing charity assets for fear of falling foul of anti-terror legislation ... Charity accounts are being frozen because banks are worried about terror links. ... A lack of guidance from the UK government, specifically the Treasury, on how banks should respond to counter-terrorism legislation has resulted in charity accounts being put on hold ... Driven by a fear of financing terrorism, international banks including HSBC, UBS and NatWest are effectively “de-risking” by closing and freezing bank accounts held by some charities. ... They are also delaying, blocking or returning millions of pounds of donations with “no detailed explanation” says the report by UK think tank the Overseas Development Institute ( ODI.) ... For example, one charity which requested to remain anonymous, was forced to forgo donations worth £2 million in the last 12 months as a result of funds being blocked by a bank. ... The report, " UK humanitarian aid in the age of counter-terrorism : perceptions and reality " recommends that the UK government, namely the Treasury, provide greater guidance on how banks, credit card companies, online donation websites and internet payment service companies can comply with the counter-terrorism law without adversely affecting legitimate aid activities.

- YOU SEE, THIS IS WHAT IS NOW HAPPENING TO BIG, REGISTERED, ESTABLISHED, RECOGNISED CHARITIES : SO WHAT MIGHT BE THEIR ATTITIDE TOWARDS A BANK ACCOUNT RECEIVING FUNDS IN VARIOUS CURRENCIES FROM OVER FIFTY COUNTRIES TO SUPPORT THE ACTIVITIES OF A SMALL UNINCORPORATED DIS-ORGANISATION BEARING A COSMOPOLITAN I.E. ANTI-NATION-STATE HENCE ANTI-UNITED KINGDOM REPUBLICAN GROUP WHEN EVERYBODY IN THE UNITED KINGDOM SIMPLY " KNOWS " THAT " REPUBLICANS " ARE ALL TERRORISTS ?

THE FACT THAT THIS KIND OF THING IS NOW HAPPENING WITH INCREASING FREQUENCY IS BUT ONE REASON WHY I INCREASINGLY UTTERLY OPPOSE THE CONTINUED EXISTENCE OF THE POLITICAL SYSTEM CALLED THE UNITED KINGDOM : BUT THIS PARANOIA IS NOT SOME NEW PHENOMENA - WAVES OF THIS KIND OF POPULAR PREJUDICE HAVE BEEN REGULARLY MANUFACTURED FOR THEIR POLITICAL PURPOSES BY THE SUPPORTERS OF THE NON-POLITICAL SYSTEM CALLED THE UNITED KINGDOM OVER THE PAST TWO HUNDRED YEARS.


mmm ...

http://www.shelteroffshore.com/index.php/offshore/more/pros-cons-multi-currency-offshore-bank-accounts-11037

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I SUPPOSE THAT I AM DESPERATE FOR MATERIAL AT THE MOMENT ... ALL OF MY FRIENDS THINK THAT THEY ARE REPUBLICANS BUT APPARENTLY I HAVE FREAKED THEM ALL OUT SINCE 2013 BY DECLARING FOR " PURE " AND DOING MORE THAN CRITICISING " DEMOCKERY " BUT INSTEAD GOING BACK TO THE ANCIENT ARGUMENTS THAT DEMOCRACY IS EVIL ... ANYWAY SINCE I THINK THAT " COCK AID " IS POTENTIALLY A SORT OF RETURN TO SOMETHING MORE NEUTRAL, IN ORDER TO PREVENT ANY OF THOSE EARLIER CONTRIBUTORS TO REPWBLIC ( WHO ARE NOT OPTING LIKE ME TO BE EXTREMISTS BUT ARE STILL DELUDED BY REPUBLICAN-DEMOCRACY OR DEMOCRATIC-REPUBLICANISM ) FROM FEELING THAT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN RIPPED OFF IF I CAN CONTRIVE SOME ADVERTISING REVENUE FROM REPWBLIC, I SHARED THE FOLLOWING EMAIL WITH ONE OF " THE GREENS " OVER IN THE NATIONALIST REPUBLICAN CAMP SO THAT THEY CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM PROPOSING ... ( ... OR IS HE ONE OF " THE REDS " ? ... TO BE HONEST, I AM HOPELESSLY COLOUR BLIND - EVEN IN MY REAL LIFE ... )


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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:54:30 +0000

Dear x

I do not think that this is going to work - but you might be interested in the idea - possibly can imagine how to improve it ?

Feel free to PLAY with it if you wish : playing maintains our motivation - we fear failure less and so can play much harder.

I am playing very hard at " bank account " at the moment : I have very rarely played this over the past twenty three years.

Perhaps you can ask around to see if you know someone who is good at this game.

Incidentally - both Marianne and I have been chivvying Dafydd to write on the board - but ... " joking " with him yesterday -

" Well, OK - I won't come round and visit you then - but ... won't you miss me ? " - " HUH ... WELL ... EVENTUALLY ... > sigh < "

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:30:22 +0000

Dear ( A Swiss Bank Person )

This is me thinking out loud about this proposal - ( Repwblic has a lot of puns, apologies for the lewdness of " Cock Aid " )

http://repwblic.informe.com/repwblic-funding-arrangements-cock-aid-dt1214.html

I had already looked at this - https://www.XXXX.com/en/current-account/the-accounts/current-account

and I take it that 5'000 EUR / 5'000 ChF= ~ £ 3600 at the present, which is a rather large deposit for an experimental purpose.

What is the purpose ? ... To receive and dispense funds for Repwblic and to distribute any surplus funds to suitable projects.

Repwblic.informe.com is a phpBB bulletin board which might generate income ; Repwblic.org is a domain which costs money.

I was thinking of creating an account / entity slightly distanced from either to receive donations for a campaign - " Cock Aid."

To characterise Repwblic.informe.com was created as a " Republic of Letters " intended for anybody to write about whatever they wished with Republicanism in Wales as the general theme. It might have advertised meetings, explained campaigns, pitched arguments ... it has not turned out like that : I took on the role of administrator in 2007 and I wanted to elevate matters a little and since as administrator I returned often the balance of it shifted towards my point of view whereas theoretically it has no particular stance and anybody can write as they please. I write as " dai " and an old friend of mine started writing as " Marianne " and we both belong to a group of people whom we generally refer to as " The Cardiff Illuminati " which we characterise as " White " i.e. a centre ground political group but not narrow, properly Republican in that both Left and Right are present in order to create the means to have an argument. " The Illuminati " were a " drinking, debating and demonstrating " group where each generally pursued their own projects but had a community within which to discuss things with others in.

In theory, Repwblic ought to be like " The Cardiff Illuminati " - but it has both failed and succeeded in so many ways. It has not become a focus for Republicanism in Wales so much as the object of curiosity for an audience outside of Wales. Last year there were 390,000+ hits on repwblic.informe.com with about 73,000+ visitors viewing five or six pages each. In theory there are 1000+ members but how many are actually following particular topic threads is unknown. If Repwblic is like " The Cardiff Illuminati " was it would be classed in our legal system as a " club " - the sort of writers' " club in a pub " in which money rarely matters until some of us have run out of money, in which case we end up putting all of our loose coins on the table in order to see if altogether we have just enough to buy one last round of half a pint each - or to share a last half pint between all of us ...

Now I especially wanted Repwblic to continue because I wanted to be sure that Republicanism in Wales was correctly represented and available for others to examine in order to refute the prejudices against Republicans which are cultivated by the supporters of The United Kingdom. Republicanism in America is taken for granted and in Europe is not thought of as being abnormal, but despite the fact that one in five people on the island of Britain identifies themselves as a Republican there is not only an abnormal amount of hostility directed at us but anybody who tries to organise anything which has the word " Republican " associated with it soon finds some very odd things happening in their lives. The Democratic Republican Party in England having been officially registered for years as a political party under that title and with those symbols and having laid out a great deal of time and money and effort in producing suitable materials on both paper and upon their website found themselves being told on the declaration the 2015 election that they had to change their party's name and symbols because another " party " had registered similar ones ... where was this other party to be found ? Nowhere : it had been fabricated for this purpose. I myself have been abused whilst giving evidence before a committee who demanded to know why I was referring to " this Frenchman " i.e. Montesquieu and having explained that he was an important Republican theorist of the 18c I was more or less declared to be a " terrorist " - because I mentioned a respected Enlightenment philosopher ! My subsequent " submission to the commission " resulted in a letter which insinuated that I was a provocateur and they refused to publish it or mention the fact of their ever having received it : in contrast to my twenty pages of more or less Republican argumentation, amongst what they did publish as submissions were several indecipherable ramblings - including even a blank sheet of paper !

That is what we are up against as Republicans in Wales : and recently the British banks have been freezing the accounts and blocking the transactions of charities and campaign groups not because any judge has ordered them to but because politicians have suggested to them that this charity or that campaign might be encouraging terrorism e.g. by rescuing children from Syria. I myself in 2012 found my photograph on the front page of The Western Mail with vile words spoken by others printed beneath it : clearly libel but beyond me to be able to sue and there was no retraction or apology - thus it was calculated and deliberate.

I note that you ask for a passport : I let mine run out because I no longer enjoy going anywhere - I get fed up being questioned.

( I still have the one which expired a few years ago, if that will do - ? )

But be assured that I am a law abiding man : no criminal record etc over thirty years a Quaker, a Pacifist and Internationalist.

In our conversation I mentioned Vevey ? An example of the sorts of things which I write which is connected to Switzerland -

http://repwblic.informe.com/omne-solem-fortis-patria-quia-patris-dt1202.html?highlight=patria

Yours Sincerely,

David B Lawrence
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst I was waiting for my lunch to turn to ashes I thought that I would jot down a provisional outline for how " Cock Aid " might be organised - DO NOT COPY THIS VERBATIM FOR ANY PURPOSE OTHER THAN AT YOUR OWN RISK ! - If you are not used to contemplating a Republican view of the world, you may find this rather disturbing ... but understand it this way : I live in exactly the same material world that you do - in a very conventional and indeed dully respectable manner - but I do not think with the same conceptions of this world as you may, indeed that is utterly impossible ... and since the material world outside of us and the ideal world within us are both in a constant state of subtle change and therefore never coincident, we are not only constantly going out of the world and into our day-dreams about it but also within our day-dreams about it we are not only going out of our minds but we have to - in order to be able to produce new frameworks within which to conceptualise our lives in order to be able to produce new ways in which to live ...

... This is the natural mental process through which we learn to adapt to our circumstances, and our minds are as much a product of the evolution of our human biology as their shells are a product of the evolution of crabs. This parable of the crab is quite an interesting one for a Repwblican who is notorious for progressing sideways : the idea of a crab shedding the hardened framework of its shell and then hiding away in some hole or under a rock in order to swell to a new size before acquiring a bigger, harder shell. I have been doing much the same over the past three years, but without the benefit of a hole to dive into or a rock to hide under. I have been publicly parading my newly evolving framework of thought as a Repwblican hermit as if I were indeed wandering around Wales and The World clad in nothing more than my rather stained and ragged Repwblican underpants ... rather like a hermit crab does ... hermit crabs do not have shells themselves but use old the abandoned ones left behind by other unrelated 16c, 17c, 18c, 19c, 20c creatures now long dead, and once they begin to outgrow them they find the framework which they once welcomed as a safe place and a comfortable shelter from those who would predate upon them to be increasingly restrictive and uncomfortable ...

... So after a period of growth hermits go looking for a bigger better shell which is not as yet occupied by one of their rival hermits - they really are stroppy little buggers, ready to start an argument on the toss at the mere sight or smell of another Republican - and then, always assuming that they can find a new framework within which to hide their vulnerabilities, they are presented with a terrifying problem : how on earth do they get safely out of their old shell and into their new one ? It is not just a matter of you managing to avoid being predated for a very small casual snack by some more powerful creature which is of course much higher up the food chain - or of having left your old shell to find that not only have you been beaten to your new shell by some bigger crabbier hermit - but that upon trying to return to your old shell some smaller but even crabbier little hermit has now seized hold of it whilst your back was turned ... No - what terrifies both hermit crabs and hermit Republicans is to find ourselves without even a rock to hide beneath or a hole to dive into for safety, because we are not clad in shining armour or indeed anything at all - but then perhaps this is where this metaphor must be ended, because whilst hermit crabs are wisely scurrying around trying to find some kind of cover ...

... Republicans in Wales can do no other than to stand here stark naked in public as in a bad dream, actually inviting others to try chewing upon the variously exposed bits of us ... fortunately - since we are indeed required by Republicanism to be neither crabby nor hermits but to be The People Who Stand Up In Public And Say " SOMETHING MUST BE DONE ! " - we are not even allowed to keep our hands behind our backs - so we are at least able to enjoy a decent modicum of both protection and privacy in the making of our Attestations ... and fortunately we are not required to disclose those most intimate, tender and fertile things which we are most sensitively attached to, those relationships which we are having with ourselves ... but then - of course - there will unfortunately always be a few of us who will surrender ourselves to these overwhelming compulsions to masturbate in public ...

By the way - here is an example of some hermit crabs who are actually practising Republicanism i.e. they are collectively implementing The Natural Law - The Nomos.

Hermit crab housing chain - Life Story: Episode 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLUAoTjdmZ8

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141103-hermit-crab ...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/life-shell-game-hermit-crabs-exchange-shells/


Er ... what was I writing about ? ... I suppose that it is no wonder that I just lurnt my brunch ... but I am wondering if I am about to burn some bridges ...

It was argued in the Modernist Republicanism which eclipsed Neo-Classical Republicanism circa 1850 that the violent revolutions of 1848 had been " The Springtime of The Nations " and it was from Modernist Republicanism - which around here I usually refer to as " Welsh Republicanism " - that Nationalist Republicans drew their inspiration in the following hundred years as they struggled with the political consequences of The Industrial Revolution in Wales ... but since circa 1950 we have seen the increasing rise of what is either the second half of the same thing or what is more likely to be the incoming tide of The Fourth Age of Republicanism - Post-Modernist Republicanism, which will in its turn then eclipse Modernist Republicanism circa 2050. It appears to me that we are now approaching what Republicanism calls a " stasis " - which will be a period marked by an intense contest for control of the political systems of the present nation-states : Republican theory predicts that although The Democrats will not disappear from our political systems they will lose control of their nation-states to The Aristocrats i.e. the Democratic stasis which seemed to be so secure was merely a mirage created by post-World War Two economics.

Republicanism says that the exercise of control over political systems represents the distribution of economic power in society : political decisions always have economic consequences and so those in pursuit of political power always ally themselves to those who possess economic power because the latter always desire political power in order to secure their economic interests. Thus if we review what is going on recently in all of those nation-states which we thought had been secured for Democracy, we find that the political discourse has effectively disappeared and that there is virtually no difference between supposedly opposed Democrats : they no longer make any political arguments about how society should be governed but have agreed upon one model of society ... but whose model is it ? ... As soon as somebody starts to assert that there can be no alternative, that not only is their political system the correct one but that anybody who questions it is to be declared " An Enemy of The People " and criminalised, you should start to ask some very serious questions and very quickly too : how can anybody of " The People " become " An Enemy of The People " if they are questioning what The State is doing to The People ? In other words, who has now obtained control of this non-political system and how are they shaping The United Kingdom and its state to serve their own communities of interest and to present these interests as being identical to The Public Interest - the Res Publica ?

The answer I believe is that having lost a great deal of economic power to The Democrats after twice near-bankrupting the non-political system called The United Kingdom in two successive World Wars which indebted The Aristocracy to The Democrats it came to be generally believed that The People in Wales were now living in some sort of Democracy, even if it was not functioning very well. This was because that appeared to result in the progressive redistribution of the economy towards The Poorer People - but then they were required in exchange to pay off the debts which had been incurred by The Richer People. Then during the 1970s The Aristocrats in The United Kingdom regained their economic control over our society and in short order thereafter quickly regained control over the political system - or rather in fact never lost it in the first place but instead merely pretended to acquiesce to Democracy and then gradually revealed once more the extent of their control over the non-political system called The United Kingdom. If you trace the piecemeal development of this non-political system which is called The United Kingdom you can readily see from the history of it not being politically reformed that in fact it has never been Democratic. The conventional norms of constitutional government and the agreed fundamental institutions of Democracy are not present in the non-political system called The United Kingdom and their continuing absence was simply explained away by a series of specious arguments which were conducted throughout the 19c in which those claiming to be bone fide constitutionalists performed exactly the opposite function in their roles as apologists for those who then openly controlled the non-political system which is called The United Kingdom - The Aristocracy.

What happened was that the theories of constitutional government i.e. The Republicanisms were cherry-picked for expressions like " The Union " and " The Rule of Law " and " The Public Interest " etc but these terms were ripped from their contexts in their Democratic Republican and Republican Democratic political theories - which then necessarily had to be done in order to conceal their origins and so disguise how these terms were being re-defined for the purposes of pretending to respond to loud demands for political reform. The Aristocracy in The United Kingdom thus learned how to manage political non-reform, to adapt and evolve and to clothe itself in the apparel of Democracy with the gradual introduction of voting by which - after the violent uprisings in the middle of the 19c - they managed to lend themselves the appearance of political authority once again by claiming that The People were now volunteering to be oppressed by voting for the non-political system which in fact they intended to never reform. The Aristocrats have successfully demanded of The Democrats in The United Kingdom that their role is to serve The Aristocracy and not The People and still less to consider The Public Interest to be other than the same as the interests of The Aristocracy : therefore it has been historically necessary to vilify Republicans and exclude Republicanism from any public political discourse, excepting that it can be discussed in universities as if it has no relevance as a political theory to the non-political system called The United Kingdom ... it is merely something that is pretentiously debated by those ignorant, barbarous, stupid foreigners ...

... in those countries which The People of The United Kingdom have always been taught to believe are all historically full of their potential enemies ... like America, Italy, Spain, Germany, France, Ireland ... Wales, Scotland, England ... Whitehall, Westminster, Downing Street ... Buckingham Palace ... The Kingdom of Heaven ... even Canada !

Let me put that into the modernised jargon which I do not favour much : the origins of the off-shore trans-national mega-corporations which now control the global economy and thus the divided and partisan Democratic political systems of The World lie in the feudal estates of The Aristocrats of Europe which through their conquests and expropriations of The People in Europe and then The People in The World created the merchant companies of the European empires which throughout most of the 16c, 17c, 18c, 19c and 20c wars of independence were fought against by The People - Everywhere. Yes, those nation-states which emerged afterwards claimed to be " republics " but they were only so on paper : their leaders were Aristocrats in revolt and so these were not truly " revolutions " but convulsions in a local " stasis." Not only did their economics not change but through being founded in violence they continued in violence and their results are there for all to see : societies which are departing further and further away, decade by decade, from the Republicanisms which they profess. Their non-political systems are Ultraistic not Altruistic, and their Democrats assert that there can be no viable alternative to their " Demockery " ... yet ... if this is Democracy - and clearly it is, so I am willing to fully accept that The Democrats are who they say they are - how come then that they do not fulfill the claims which they keep on making for this non-political system ? In other words :

" If Democracy is a political system, then where is its political debate ? "

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... MY FUN WAS SPOILT, I WAS CALLED AWAY : BUT I'LL WRITE AGAIN - ANOTHER DAY ... YOU KNOW RUPERT BEAR ? HE WENT TO PLAY ... UPON A BEACH - WITH A CRAB ONE DAY ... only GUGGLE won't produce the image for me and ... ah ! ... lateral thinking you see - crab-wise ... ( Mary Tourtel not only gave birth to Rupert but also taught me to rhyme - but also not to reason why ... )



( ... MARY TOURTEL ALSO TAUGHT ME A SORT OF INTERNATIONALISM ... THIS WAS FIFTY YEARS AGO ... )



( ... ACTUALLY IT IS A CHARMING STORY - http://www.aryanunity.com/rupert.html ... )

( ... WELL IF THE FASCISTS CAN KIDNAP RUPERT THE BEAR - WHY CAN'T I TRY TO RESCUE HIM ? ... )

Before I go to bed I decided to be careful to qualify that perhaps rather odd short cut : it is about being the age I am ( fifty three at present ) and my being brought up during the last days of The United Kingdom's Empire - note that I am not using the term " The British Empire " - and as a teenager I witnessed the naive racism of the 1970s - 1980s which was the result of it ... but this was part and parcel of how we were taught to think of as " OUR empire " in which The United Kingdom treated a quarter of the world as basically a farm and The People in The World as its livestock ... think of this in terms of taking small children to admire the baa-lambs and piglets in your local farm's petting zoo ... you just do not tell them that evening or the next morning that the meat on their plate is the fellow creature that you were encouraging them to be sentimental about only hours before ...

... Thus the sentimentalising of imperialism was - indeed is - that your local Monarchists are touring The World spreading harmony and peace and the benefits of civilisation whereas in fact they are engineering antagonisms and waging wars and destroying other societies in order to provide their supporting cast of characters - Hierarchs, Democrats, Aristocrats - with fresh opportunities for practicing their own types of Ultraism ... elsewhere I compare Wales to a farm also : my compatriots so often seem to be like sheep who entirely trust those who think that they own them and are thus entitled to send them off to be slaughtered ... but there are those of us who recognise how these sheep are meekly submitting to their lot, who in being neglected feel that this is their own fault not that of those who are farming them, and we perceive The United Kingdom to be more like a prison camp : sheep upon reaching the limits of their enclosure will just stop, whereas human beings upon testing what they took to be just a fence will find that not only will they receive rather more than a mild shock but that there are also guard towers, search lights and ultimately machine guns to stop them exercising their curiosity about the wider world. The positive aspect however about Rupert the Racist is that The People in The World whilst being condescended to are nearly always friendly, intelligent and welcoming which encouraged us to view foreigners in a good light : compare that with how The United Kingdom is teaching us to view foreigners now ...

... The hypocrisy of The Democrats in Wales bleating against Racism in Wales whilst demanding that it is our patriotic duty to cheer on the young poverty stricken Welsh men and women who they are dutifully sending out to kill The People in The World i.e. those who are also poverty stricken - only more so - by the same global economic interests which are attempting to control our political systems as well as theirs ... of course we ought to be proud I suppose that our Khaki Kiddie Komrades can certainly not be accused of being racists when they go off to kill foreigners, but that instead - in the best traditions of The United Kingdom - they are killing foreigners wholly indiscriminately, without any giving any thought to the possibility of practicing any racial or indeed sexual discrimination in their doing so ...

... in my last few words before midnight : a contributor to Stormfront has listed Repwblic as preaching " White Power " and this could no be further from the truth - the idea of " White Politics " is centuries old and it is to be construed in terms of Newton's prism which Voltaire much admired. The constant drive in all things Republican is towards reconciliation, unity and mutuality and against sectarian, partisan and other discriminatory politics - hence it is opposed to Racism, Sexism and any and all of the other -isms which divide societies and communities and families and individuals against each other. Metaphorically, the Newton's prism can both display the constituent parts of light in order to acknowledge the value of the equal contributions of its constituent parts - and it can take those same parts back into itself and reunite them into a whole which is more than the sum of its constituent parts : Newton's prism is yet another example of the appearance of a triangular figure in conjunction with The Eye in Republican symbolism, not to mention the fact that it refers to " The Enlightenment."
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not done much more than worry about this business of opening an overseas bank account lest the government merely only has to ask a bank politely - even just suggest to a bank that things could get awkward for them if they ... sort of ... had the wrong customers ... customers who had the wrong sort of friends ... the sort of friends that the government thinks are enemies ... like poor people - or just brown people ... not their sort of white people ( perhaps not Church of England ? ) ... anyway ... I thought ... I am just being a bit paranoid ... they are not interested in harmless Woolly White Socks and Sandals people like me - or you ? - surely not ... I thought ...

http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/pro-palestine-groups-consider-legal-action-against-co-op-bank-closing-accounts/finance/article/1375124

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For your information : from an email circulated to me - I know nothing more.

David B. Lawrence,


> Are you aware that the Co-op has unilaterally closed the accounts of the
> organisations below (including several PSC branches), who are working for
> human rights in Palestine?

> List of local groups who have had their accounts closed or denied ( I have
> added some details about each from their websites to give context):
>
> Abergavenny PSC branch
>
> Abu Bakr Rauf Memorial Scholarship Fund

> "The scholarship fund will pay for Palestinian students to attend a university
> in Gaza and it is hoped that enough money is raised for several students to
> complete undergraduate studies."
>
> Boycott Israel Network

> "The Boycott Israel Network (BIN) is comprised of individuals and
> organisations committed to campaigning for a comprehensive boycott of Israel,
> in response to the 2005 call from Palestinian civil society, until Israel
> complies with International law and the fundamental rights of the Palestinian
> people"
>
> Bristol PSC branch

> Cambridge PSC branch
>
> Computers for Palestine

> "This project aims to ship recycled computers from Bristol to small towns in
> Palestine. There they will be used for education, youth work, and for general
> use by all sections of the community. Digital cameras, and laptop computers
> and other IT equipment are also needed. But most of all money to pay for
> shipping costs, transport in Palestine, for repairs, software and
> consumables."
>
> Discover Palestine

> "an initiative conceived by a group of experienced and passionate Palestinian
> tour guides.....Founded in 2014, Discover Palestine is a not-for-profit home
> grown initiative working under the umbrella with Asociación Europea de
> Cooperación con Palestina - ASECOP (The European Association for Cooperation
> with Palestine).
>
> International Women’s Peace Service Palestine

> "the only international peace team working in Salfit district, a rural area
> close to Nablus. Salfit district, as well as the nearby Nablus and Qalqilya
> districts, are affected by more than 20 illegal Israeli settler colonies,
> located in the Ariel settlement bloc."
>
> Liverpool Friends of Bil’in

> "The Friends of Bil’in actively promotes community links between Liverpool and
> Bil’in and are currently raising funds for many projects over in Bil’in"
>
> Norwich PSC branch

> Northern Palestine Solidarity Network

> Nottingham PSC branch

> Oxford PSC branch

> Plymouth PSC branch
>
> Saddleworth Women’s Scholarship Fund

> "Saddleworth Palestine Women’s Scholarship Fund raises money to help women in
> Palestine, specifically those living in the Gaza Strip, access higher
> education. We work closely with Sheffield Palestine Women’s Scholarship Fund
> who manage the Fund in the UK. Groups in Sheffield, Saddleworth and Bolton are
> currently supporting nearly 40 women through higher education. In Gaza the
> Fund is managed by a panel drawn from the Board of Directors of the Red
> Crescent Society and the Union of Health Work Committees."
>
> Sheffield PSC branch
>
> Sheffield Palestine Women’s Scholarship Fund
> " a local charity which currently supports 43 Palestinian women to go to
> university in the Gaza Strip, one of the world’s poorest regions. The Fund
> pays for their university fees, enabling women to study subjects ranging from
> engineering to Arabic, from medicine to law."
>
> West Midlands PSC branch

> York PSC branch
>
> Yorkshire Palestine Cultural exchange

> "YPCE has been a collaboration between people from Yorkshire and Palestine for
> over nine years. Starting with concerts to raise awareness of Palestine and
> its culture, introducing Palestinian music, we have organised dance tours and
> a cultural week as well as an annual film festival, cinema Palestino"
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am just looking up that PSC account ban by the Co-operative Bank to see whether there are more developments ... please note that the " Coop Bank " is no longer a cooperative and ought to be challenged some time for using the term " cooperative " which has a legal basis, whilst closing these PSN bank accounts apparently does not - which is why any government licences their friends in the corporations to capriciously pretend that there has been some breach of contract which entitles them to prevent a political and / or charitable group from functioning e.g. by cancelling venues at the last minute, and in this case by screwing up a groups financial arrangements : this is why in the 19c the Republican Brotherhood started backing The Cooperative Union and the Republican League The Trade Union Congress, out of which emerged the Cooperative Party and the Labour Party - but each of these at the time had tremendous difficulties in obtaining places to meet and banking was a nightmare ... and that is why they founded The Cooperative Bank in the first place ... now some moron has sold it off - presumably because they think that banking and capitalism are the same things ? Banking was originally a medieval institution which served The Public Interest - but that was before it was subverted by those private interests which we refer to as " Capitalist " and thus became a threat to the economic basis of our society and civilisation.

REMEMBER : I PREDICTED THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN AND I PREDICTED THAT IT WILL BECOME WORSE, BUT OFFSHORE HAS ITS PROBLEMS TOO.

http://www.palestinecampaign.org/faqs-on-the-closing-of-our-co-op-bank-account/

December 4, 2015

The Co-operative Bank has closed Palestine Solidarity Campaign bank account. The decision was made unilaterally by the Co-operative Bank, without reason. When we asked, they refused to overturn it and they refused to provide any grounds or justification for their decision ... The Palestine Solidarity Campaign had been banking with the Coop for over 10 years ...

December 8, 2015

... Now that the Co-operative Bank are being pressed for information by lots of other people they have said that : “for customers who operate in, or send money to, high risk locations throughout the world, advanced due diligence checks are required by all banks to ensure the funds do not inadvertently fund alleged or proscribed activities.” ... The Co-operative Bank is now run by private investors including a USA based hedge-fund. This accounts for 80% of the shares. ... It is worth noting that the Co-operative Bank only sent this statement to PSC on 8th December 2015 in response to our legal letter ... All of the PSC’s campaign work is based in the UK. We do not finance or run projects in the West Bank, Gaza or other parts of the world ...

December 2015 +

The Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC) has launched a legal case against the Co-operative Bank on the grounds of discrimination. ... Another 27 organisations working for Palestine – including a number of PSC branches – have also had their accounts closed or denied ... Given the lack of any objective justification for the decision, we believe that the decision must have been made because of our support for Palestine. PSC and its legal team believe that such a decision would be discriminatory and contravene the Equality Act 2010. PSC has accordingly initiated legal proceedings against the Bank.

THERE IS SOME MORE ON THIS WEBPAGE & I GUESS THAT WE CAN ONLY WATCH PSC TRY TO TAKE THEM ON - BUT WON'T THIS WILL EAT UP THEIR MONEY WHICH WILL NOT END UP IN PALESTINE BUT IN PAYING COURT FEES TO THE TREASURY : THIS IS HOW THE DEMOCKERATS WORK THEIR NON-POLITICAL SYSTEM CALLED THE UNITED KINGDOM ...


http://moveyourmoney.org.uk/

... I have just been reading your comments on what the Coop have done to PSC groups' bank accounts : I had already been anticipating something like this happening - read this and you will understand my dillemma - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=3042#3042 - which is that whilst Repwblic is not a terrorist organisation but a bulletin board with a spikey attitude towards Democracy it could easily find itself being alleged to be so ... so why locate anything like a bank account within the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom if its politicians are going to circumvent due legal process by having corporations deny us services leaving us to sue them to recover our meager assets ? Have you yet thought about where a dis-organisation such as Repwblic can obtain a bank account which will not be subject to this contempt for the rule of law by encouraging this arbitrary interference ? Regards - David B Lawrence
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I KNOW - THIS IS A POOR LETTER - BUT " SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE ! "

From:
To:
Subject: FW: WRITE A LETTER + PRINT THIS OUT TO SHOW THIS TO [ MY LOCAL BANK ] - REPWBLIC : Funding Arrangements - COCK AID ?
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 14:24:46 +0000

[ TO MY OWN LOCAL BANK - OPTING FOR THE STRAIGHTFORWARD & FACE-TO-FACE APPROACH : MUCH EASIER IF CAMERON & MAY CAUSE TROUBLE ]

Dear Sir / Madam,

three times I have casually discussed this matter with your staff as I attended to my accounts.

You have my XXXXXX account and also my XXXXXX account [ XXXXXX-XXXXXXXX ] into which I transfer ££££££ [ FROM MY ] XXXXXX account [ XXXXXX-XXXXXXXX ] in an irregular way : I have been ill for many years because of living in a very stressful political situation ...

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... because for more than twenty years I have been preparing for a final legal contest against the political establishment who casually wrecked XXXXXX XXXXXX and also my life as lived here. It is a very complicated story and the reason why I mention all of this is because it in my living this life that I not only opted to publicly argue for " The Rule of Law " i.e. Republicanism in Wales, but that after a series of events in 2012 I made a momentous decision in 2013 - which took me by surprise - and I decided to reject Democracy and advocate " Pure Republicanism " i.e. to go back to the late 17c and early 18c Republican arguments which indict Democracy as corrupting.

Do not worry too much - everybody else contributing to Repwblic thinks that I have simply had a minor nervous breakdown and nobody else is taking this " Pure Republicanism " as seriously as I do ... but then if you know nothing even of ( American ) Democratic Republicanism or ( French ) Republican Democracy it may be the case that you will already imagine myself and my friends to be involved in some sort of secret criminal conspiracy. Well there is certainly nothing secret or criminal or conspiratorial to be found upon our bulletin board - http://repwblic.informe.com/ - and I offer you an excerpt from it below which is relevant to this request : as you can see we discuss everything openly - and that is because there is a political theory behind what we do - " The Open Conspiracy." On the other hand we do deal in a lot of dubious humour - but nothing as bad as what is broadcast by BBC Radio 4 - and whilst we bill this as " Conversations with Wales' Republicans " and even discuss Republicanism from time to time, we write as we please and we only censor those postings which may result in the host refusing to publish our bulletin board. " Y Repwblic " is now it its tenth year and we have never had to censor anybody ... but presently only myself ( " dai " ) " Marianne " and " Moritz " write and we all belong to a group founded in 1984 " The Cardiff Illuminati." Meanwhile the statistics say that we are read by 100,000+ others.

I first began to take note of those 100,000+ figures for others viewing " Y Repwblic " more than two years ago but my argument that we should add some advertising to the website to raise some revenue was met with horror. Republicans generally perceive " politics+cash=corruption." More to the point past contributors to the board might demand their due if what they wrote then raised income which others pocketed i.e. whilst I have been out of pocket now for years paying for things out of my own bank accounts I can not expect to be repaid - before I even check out whether or not we can raise some revenue from " Y Repwblic " as the biggest and most successful political website in The United Kingdom, I need to a current account to put it in. I suspect that you may think my claim there for the monetary value of " Y Repwblic " is rash : I briefly checked the statistics again for a letter which I was writing to both XXXXXX and XXXXXX -

WelshLabour.Wales ------------ $190
Ukip.Wales ---------------------- $333
Welshlibdems ------------------- $603
Plaid.cymru ------------------- $3,773
Welshconservatives.com --- $2,015
repwblic.informe.com ------ $21,123

In 2014 repwblic.informe.com was valued by the same webstats.domain.com at $141,450, and that is when I started to think that it was irresponsible to not use the web traffic to raise funds. I have done nothing more however since than mumble about the idea onto the following thread.

I see no reason to treat " Y Repwblic " as other than a club and if it were not a virtual entity but carried on in the manner of " The Cardiff Illuminati " where we would simply pool all of our loose change on the table and should we find ourselves short we would be searching down the back of the sofa. Our funds never made it as far as the tin on the mantlepiece - only ever to the pub !

We never bothered to keep a membership list back then and although we have a list of names of registered users ( 1126 today ) even if they really exist they are scattered all over the globe. I really do not think that the Charity Commissioners are going to view preaching The Word of The Open Conspiracy as promoting a religion nor is The Inland Revenue going to give us any virtual tax-breaks for our being located in Cyber Space ... A Bank in The Bahamas would be nice but the cost of train fares would never be justified by the revenue to be earned in " Y Repwblic." ...

I came to the conclusion that if the sort of thing which might go wrong i.e. that David Cameron finds himself compromised in some way and needs to create a diversion by arresting someone and accusing them of being involved in " The Open Conspiracy " for which he already has the evidence - in my own purple prose written in my own purple ink in one of my own purple letters - and writes to [ MY LOCAL BANK ] to demand the seizure of all the accounts which I have with you ... Well I am hoping that [ MY LOCAL BANK ] will politely write back to whoever demands such a thing and point out that your bank insists upon " The Rule of Law " and will refuse to be coerced against it and will ask The United Kingdom to present its case in a court room first and to make that case before an independant judiciary and thereby conform to the norms of western civilised society.

I ought to apologise for this not being as simple as " Can Repwblic put it's tin upon your shelf ? "

David B. Lawrence,

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1214 - REPWBLIC : Funding Arrangements - COCK AID
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[ ... We started to discuss a bank acount just before PSN had its account seized by The Coop Bank ... after allegations by ... well - exactly ... who ? ... Why ? ... WHEN ? ... " The Angel of The Armistice " - ? ... "... REPWBLIC = AD-MINISTRATOR = DIVINE INTERCESSOR ... " ... SO IF ANY OF YOUR COMPLAINTS TO THE ADMINISTRATOR ABOUT " Y REPWBLIC " ARE NOT RESOLVED TO YOUR SATISFACTION ... YOU CAN ALWAYS APPEAL THE MATTER TO THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY ... ]

[ AN EXCHANGE WITH THOSE MORE INVOLVED WITH THE COOP BANK FIASCO ]

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YYYY

On 19 Apr 2016, at 18:37, Y Repwblic Yng Nghymru <repwblic~hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Dear YYYY

I have just been casting around for any further news about the seizing / freezing of accounts.

I had just begun to think in terms of a bank account for repwblic.org when PSN's were taken.

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1214

A year or so later I have decided to talk to my bank manager - we let it all hang out on repwblic so you will find a rendered version of the letter at the bottom of the thread - any suggestions ?

Basically we want a tin on a shelf to keep our loose change in - to disperse our small expenses.

dai repwblic - Dai Saw - David B Lawrence

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From: XXXX@YYYY
Subject: Re: the seizing / freezing of accounts - any news ? any suggestions ?
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 11:46:28 +0100
To: repwblic~hotmail.co.uk

Hi David

Sorry for the slow response.

The bank’s problems with PSC etc really are to do with money laundering regulations and extreme timidity on the bank’s part. It’s all about ‘high risk’ countries, and I doubt that Wales will count as that in the bank’s eyes.

Have you applied for an account? It takes a while these days ( we are still waiting for ours for the new YYYY.) I don’t think you’ll have any trouble however and we still think the Co-op is the best option.

Best of luck

XXXX

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From: repwblic~hotmail.co.uk
To: XXXX~YYYY
Subject: RE: the seizing / freezing of accounts - any news ? any suggestions ?
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:23:37 +0000

Dear XXXX,

thank you for your reply.

I wrote a letter to my bank manager describing our activities which are satirical not financial.

Never the less things happen from time to time : presently all illustrations have disappeared.

The purpose of an account is to avoid receiving any donations to Repwblic into my own account.

Our audience is predominantly overseas not in Wales : I think that the Israelis may be offended.

I am not " anti-Israel / pro-Palestine " but pro-People and pissed off by The Government in Israel.

( Ignore what begins this page ) http://repwblic.informe.com/israel-and-palestine-dt37-100.html

( Understand that we have known each other for decades and Israel contains issues to discuss.)

( The Theme is Republicanism : using Israel and other situations as a means to discuss ideology.)

Regards,

David B Lawrence
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http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ex-envoy-fears-he-is-bank-outcast-ffs3bk5tt - Ex-envoy fears he is bank outcast - Anna Mikhailova - 01-05-16

[ I WAS READING THE SUNDAY TIMES ON ... SUNDAY ... WELL IT MADE FOR A CHANGE OVER THE TELEGRAPH ... THIS IS THE INTRODUCTORY TEXT FOR THE ARTICLE ON-LINE : THE MAIN ARTICLE IS LONGER - AND INTERESTING.]

A high street bank threatened to close the current account of a former British ambassador to Brazil after labelling him a “politically exposed person”.

Alan Charlton, 63, who served his country for 35 years and has twice been honoured by the Queen, has been battling for six months to persuade HSBC that he is an innocent victim of its crackdown on corruption.

Charlton is one of a number of senior members of the foreign service who feel they have been hounded by their banks for being “politically exposed”. In some cases, the children of former civil servants have been targeted.

[ APOLOGIES TO S/T - IT IS HARD TO QUOTE A COHERENT BIT OF A VERY SHORT ARTICLE - BUT THIS ILLUSTRATES HOW CAMERON & CO ARE SPREADING POLITICAL PARANOIA : IF HIGH RANKING BUT LIBERAL SUPPORTERS OF THE BRITISH ARISTOCRACY ARE SUSPECT AND THEY CAN NOT GET BANKING FACILITIES ... WHAT ABOUT REPWBLIC ? ... ]

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Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 09:42:45 +0100
Subject:

I have tried to call you this morning regarding the club account

You can open a treasurers account you will need to have two appointed officials – a chairman and a treasurer / secretary and you also need to have a constitution – you can find more details on this on line on our web site under business accounts. you can also apply on line.

This account is then free.

Hope this answers your queries but please call me if I can help you with any further questions.

[ MY BANK MANAGER ]

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Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 12:03:15 +0000

Dear [ MY BANK MANAGER ]

[ CC repwblic~hotmail.co.uk - the email account used for administrating websites and domains and so rarely used for correspondence.]

Thank you very much for the care that you have taken over this - I will turn to this later today and discuss it with Dafydd ap Geler Thomas.

Although it does not mention Republicanism, after The Treason Felony Act 1848 many people assumed that Republicans were criminals.

The lawyers debated what its legal implications were and set out " The Birmingham Rules " which became standard for Republican clubs.

As I remember it " The Birmingham Rules " usually involved three signatories and each instrument had to have a minimum two signatures.

The truth about our group was that we were a lot more informal and used to search for our funds down the backs of the sofas and chairs.

Given how simple our financial affairs are this will be an opportunity to dust off my limited book-keeping skills ... but we had another idea.

That idea is to keep this account not so closely tied to Repwblic as to prevent us from granting any surplus to other groups as seed money.

Yours Sincerely,

David B. Lawrence,

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If you want to read " The Birmingham Rules " you will find them in an appendix on pages 114-116 of Christopher J Rumsey's " The Rise and Fall of British Republican Clubs 1871-1874 "

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rise-British-Republican-Clubs-1871-1874/dp/1897856083?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0

Ah : you might be able to summon them up to read using -

https://books.google.co.uk/books?redir_esc=y&id=YJoVAQAAIAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=%22Birmingham+Rules%22

The main draughtsman of " The Birmingham Rules " and founding member of The Birmingham Republican Club and arguably one of the founding fathers of The Cooperative Party was Charles " Cockbill " Cattell ( 1830 - 1910.) He was much admired in private circles at the time as a self-taught working-class Republican in the school of George Holyoake but because of the prejudices against Republicans and his dependency upon remaining in employment in order to have a wage to live upon his more well known pen-name was " Christopher Charles." He did not live long enough to witness the founding of The Co-operative Party at the Co-operative Congress in 1917 as organised by the Co-operative Union whose headquarters is still in ... Holyoake House ... So ... if you think that The Republicans in Wales are mad, bad and dangerous to know in comparison to The Labour Party and The Cooperative Party : note that it was The Republicans in the 1840s who created the Trade Unions and Cooperatives, The Trustee Savings Banks and The Building Societies, The Friendly Societies and The Law Societies, Housing Schemes and Health Services - in short everything which has been destroyed by the modern Labour Party and Cooperative Party which both have their origins in The Republicanism of the 1870s ... and have both been infiltrated by careerists who are each pursuing their own Private Interests and so do not want to be accountable to The People in Wales and The World : those who have captured these and all other parties deny the fact that The Political Authority is always in The Lives of The People and so they object to The Public Conversation in Wales and The World about the morality and ethics of their behaviour. The fact is that The Democrats in Wales and The World detest The Republicans in Wales and The World because they detest those who actually practice politics and so argue The Public Interest and oppose the subversion of The State in Wales and The World by The Ultraists in Wales and The World - by Hierocrats, Democrats, Aristocrats, Monocrats and whatever as yet not imagined others who may devise new means to influence, coerce or gain control of The Governments in Wales and The World.

Above all The Democrats in Wales and The World detest those who demand that politics should be conducted solely upon the basis of facts and arguments ... whether they call themselves " The Republicans in Wales and The World or just Altruists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Holyoake ... Sorry, but I can not find a biographical webpage for Christopher Charles / Charles Cockbill Cattell -

https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Secularism_its_principles_stated.html?id=qQVeAAAAcAAJ&redir_esc=y
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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" The Birmingham Rules " - their ethos is correct : but these were written in 1871, so how can we re-write them for 2017 ?

David B. Lawrence,

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FROM - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=3361#3361 - " The Birmingham Rules "

... ... ...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rise-British-Republican-Clubs-1871-1874/dp/1897856083/

The Rise and Fall of British Republican Clubs 1871-1874 - Christopher J. Rumsey - pages 114-116 - Appendix 4 :

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The Rules of The Birmingham Republican Club 1871 ( adopted 24 January - implemented 14 February ) - " The Birmingham Rules " - as draughted by Charles Cockbill Cattell

1) That this be called " The Birmingham Republican Club."

2) That the objects shall be to unite all Republicans in this town and neighbourhood ; to correspond with all Republicans in this and other countries ; to collect books, papers, and information on Republicanism and Republican doings and institutions in all ages and countries ; to promote all efforts in parliament, on platforms, and in the press, which have a tendency in the direction of Republicanism, or which are in harmony with Republican principles. The object of all action taken by the club shall be to teach the best principles of civil government amongst mankind.

3) That the word Republic shall be used by the members to signify a Commonwealth, a State or a unity of States in which public affairs shall b managed by persons appointed by the people ; and in which the exercise of the sovereign power shall be placed in the representatives freely elected by the people.

4) That this club shall consist of active, passive, and honarary members, who shall be elected by a majority of members present at any ordinary meeting of the club, and they shall be elected by ballot. The form of application being duly signed shall be taken as the nomination of the member, and he shall be eligible for election ( whether present or absent ) at the meeting when that form is received.

5) That active and passive members pay a subscription of not less than sixpence a year.

6) Form of application for membership :

I, the undersigned desire to become a member of The Birmingham Republican Club, and hereby pledge myself, if elected, to promote its objects, conform to its rules, and act in concert with its members.

Name __________________________________________
Address ________________________________________
Trade or Profession _______________________________

On receipt of a paper filled up as above, and a subscription of not less than sixpence, the name will be given to the members, and the result of the ballot will be communicated by the secretary. The book of names will not be seen by anybody outside the Club nor will the names be published in any form without the consent of the member in question.

7) That the officers shall consist of a President, and Vice-president ( to be elected quarterly, in March, June, September, and December,) and such others as the members may from time to time appoint. The members shall have power to remove any officer and appoint another in his place, if circumstances require it, between the times of election herein specified.

Cool That on all questions there shall be absolute freedom of discussion.

9) That all proceedings of the Club, and all public acts of its members approved by the Club, shall be recorded in a book, which shall be accessible to members only, and which shall be in the club-room at every meeting ; and all proposals of whatever character shall be made in writing, and be hung up in the club-room, or be otherwise brought before the notice of every member present at any meeting when such proposals are made - and whether adopted or not shall be preserved, on a file or otherwise, for the use of the members.

10) That all decisions arrived at or proceedings undertaken by a majority of the members shall be binding upon and supported by the minority ; and no pecuniary liability shall be incurred until funds for the same shall have been guaranteed.

11) That the objects of this Club shall be promoted by intellectual, legal, and moral means ; and that no rule shall be construed to mean anything to the contrary.

12) That these rules shall not be altered or amended except at a meeting of two-thirds of the members present at a meeting of which they shall have notice, through the post, at least two meeting nights before such alteration shall be discussed or made.

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POST SCRIPT : DESPITE THERE HAVING BEEN OVER A HUNDRED " BIRMINGHAM RULES " REPUBLICAN CLUBS IN THE 19C, NO CLUB BOOKS HAVE SURVIVED.
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Dear Daf,

I am looking for examples of rules for unincorporated organisations - so we can open a bank account to accept and disburse funds.

Nominally this project is running under the title " Cock Aid " because the idea is make a formal account of the funding of Repwblic.

David B. Lawrence,

http://www.netlawman.co.uk/ia/unincorporated-associations#What is an unincorporated association?
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FROM - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=4294#4294

You know that I love you - you old bugger ! - but you too do whimsicalitie ...

... could you work out how the rules of reality could be re-written to enable Y Repwblic's virtuality ?

I am thinking about the bank account project - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1214

I think that several of " The Birmingham Rules " are irrelevant to Y Repwblic.

But it is also necessary to also consider the rules of " The Open Conspiracy."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Open_Conspiracy

" ... a "scheme to thrust forward and establish a human control over the destinies of life and liberate it from its present dangers, uncertainties and miseries." ... that this can be the basis of "a world revolution aiming at universal peace, welfare and happy activity" that can result in the establishment of a "world commonweal" ... in order to weave the beginnings of a world community ... What is contemplated is not a stable order, but rather a dynamic, changing state of affairs in which scientific research and creative activity become the chief preoccupations of a humanity that has solved the problems of subsistence, population control, and the suppression of war ... "

... Yeah - I know - you will agree with some of this bit of that page :

" ... Wells' biographer Michael Sherborne notes that while Wells' critics have described The Open Conspiracy as anti-democratic and elitist, his supporters have argued the book is "a boost for a civil society realized today by bodies such as Greenpeace and Amnesty International." ... "
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=4752#4752

Does Repwblic have Data Protection issues ?

[ DEBATE ABOUT THAT - THEN END PIECE ]

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TO BE HONEST I THINK THAT " THE OPEN CONSPIRACY " PRINCIPLE IS A BETTER ETHOS : Y REPWBLIC IS BASED UPON PHPBB AND THIS ALLOWS EACH PARTICIPANT WHO REGISTERS AS A MEMBER TO DECIDE HOW MUCH INFORMATION THEY PUBLISH ABOUT THEMSELVES ... IN EFFECT A PHPBB BOARD IS CONSTRUCTED IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE ADMINSTRATOR IS NOT COLLECTING AND PUBLISHING THE DATA : THERE IS A MASS EMAILING FEATURE WHICH USES THE FILES PROVIDED BUT IN TEN YEARS THIS WAS USED ONCE AND IT IS AN AUTOMATIC PROCESS - THE ADMINISTRATOR DOES NOT HAVE A FILE OF EMAIL ADDRESSES AND EVEN IF S/HE DID MOST OF THEM WOULD BE DEAD ADDRESSES BY NOW AND FEW PEOPLE GIVE OTHER THAN AN ALIAS ... THE ONLY USEFUL INFORMATION - THE ONLY INFORMATION GATHERED FROM THE MEMBERSHIP LIST FOR ANALYSIS - IN WHICH WE ARE LUCKY THAT MANY PEOPLE HONESTLY TELL US SOMETHING - IS FROM THE COLUMN RECORDING THE LOCATIONS OF OUR FELLOW ILLUMINATI ... AND MOST OF THOSE ARE NOT OF SPECIFIC CITIES ( IT IS A TRADITION AMONGST THE ILLUMINATI THAT THEY IDENTIFY THEIR CITY AND THEIR TAG BUT NOT THEIR LODGE NOR THEIR REAL NAME ... )

BUT HERE - FOR THE PURPOSES OF " THE OPEN CONSPIRACY " - I WILL TELL YOU THAT DAFYDD, MARIANNE AND I ALL MET IN " Z " WHICH EXISTED 1984-1991 AND WAS FOUNDED BY ABIGAIL LEONARD [ NOW DECEASED ] AND THE POLICY OF " THE CARDIFF ILLUMINATI " WAS TO KEEP NO MEMBERSHIP RECORDS BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MEMBERSHIP LIST OF THE WELSH SOCIALIST REPUBLICAN MOVEMENT WHERE NUMBERS OF " THE REDS " WERE ARRESTED AND MANY WERE CHARGED WITH " CONSPIRACY " BECAUSE OF THEIR NAMES BEING ON IT. HENCE ABIGAIL'S JOKE THAT IF " THE WHITES " WERE ALSO GOING TO BE FORCED TO CONFESS TO A CONSPIRACY THEN WE HAD DAMN WELL BETTER CONFESS TO BELONGING TO THE NOTORIOUSLY BIGGEST AND BEST ONE - " THE ILLUMINATI " - AND DECLARE THAT THOSE WHO ARE INVOLVED CAN NEITHER BE FOUND NOR COUNTED I.E. THAT " THE CARDIFF ILLUMINATI " ARE " NUMBERLESS " - LIKE [ ] ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ2M3b56eUM&list=PLDFC24C5EF697871A&index=51


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IN ORDER TO PREVENT BOGUS CARPETBAGGERS SUDDENLY INVADING " Y REPWBLIC " AND GRABBING THE MONEY IN THE PROPOSED BANK ACCOUNT BY INTRODUCING DEMOCRATIC METHODS, THE PLAN BEING KICKED AROUND THIS PAST TWO YEARS OR SO IS FOR ALL FUNDS FOR ALL PROJECTS TO BE SIMPLY ACCOUNTED FOR BY PASSING THE FUNDS THROUGH A BANK ACCOUNT PRESENTLY REFERRED TO AS " COCKAID " - BUT THIS REQUIRES US TO PRESENT TO THE BANK TWO SIGNATORIES WHO ARE SUFFICIENTLY TOGETHER TO MOVE THE SOFA AND SEARCH UNDERNEATH IT ... AND TO PRODUCE SOME KIND OF MODIFICATION OF " THE BIRMINGHAM RULES " WHICH SUITS A " NUMBERLESS " PROJECT IN A 20C VIRTUAL REALITY ENVIRONMENT WHERE THE 19C REPUBLICAN CLUB STANDARD RULES OF ASSOCIATION ARE REALLY MEANINGLESS : THERE IS NO NEED FOR A MEMBERSHIP LIST IF WE DO NOT COLLECT SUBSCRIPTIONS BUT INSTEAD JUST PUBLISH THE BANK ACCOUNT'S DETAILS AND REGULARLY PUBLISH ITS STATEMENTS AND APPEAL FOR DONATIONS TO SUPPORT " REPWBLIC " INSTEAD OF SUBSCRIPTIONS. WE DO NOT INTEND " COCKAID " TO BE REGISTERED AS A CHARITY BUT WE HOPED TO MODIFY " THE BIRMINGHAM RULES " TO BE ABLE TO GOVERN SOMETHING MORE THAN A JAM JAR FULL OF PENNIES IN FUTURE ... HOPED - NOBODY IS GETTING AROUND TO THE TASK : WE ARE DISCOUNTENTLED SCRIBBLERS - NOT ACCOUNTANTAINTED QUIBBLERS ...

REPWBLIC : Funding Arrangements - COCK AID ? - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1214
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" COCKAID " IS OF COURSE A PUN ON COCKADE : THE ORIGINAL COCKADE IN THE FRENCH REVOLUTION WAS A STRIP OF GREEN CLOTH FOR " DEMOCRACY " - IN FACT THOSE " FOR THE PEOPLE " FIRST WORE GREEN LEAVES BECAUSE ALL OVER EUROPE GREEN DENOTED " THE COMMONERS " HENCE THE GREEN SEATS IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS - BUT WHEN THE PARIS MILITIA CHANGED SIDES THE PEOPLE ENTHUSIASTICALLY ADOPTED STRIPS OF RED AND BLUE MIMICKING THEIR UNIFORMS - EVENTUALLY THE KING OF FRANCE WAS PERSUADED TO WEAR A COCKADE BY LAFAYETTE WHO WITH POLITICAL TACT PLACED THE WHITE STRIP IN THE MIDDLE : THE FRENCH ROYAL FLAG AND THEREFORE COLOUR WAS WHITE AND THE BRITISH GET A GARBLED VERSION OF THE FRENCH REVOLUTION OF 1789 IN WHICH IT WAS VIOLENT AND THE KING NEVER PARTICIPATED IN ANY POLITICAL REFORM - THIS IS NOT TRUE ... THE KING PARTICIPATED IN THE FIRST " BASTILLE DAY " IN 1790 WHICH CELEBRATED THE PEACEABLE NATURE OF THE REVOLUTION IN FRANCE : IT ALL WENT WRONG IN 1792 AS THE DEMOCRATS MANOEUVRED AGAINST THE REPUBLICANS AND THE KING RAN FOR HIS LIFE AND WAS CAPTURED AND DENOUNCED AS A TRAITOR.

BRITISH REPUBLICANS WERE ENTHUSIASTS FOR THE FRENCH TRICOLOURE AND FLEW THE ORIGINAL RED-WHITE-BLUE TRICOLOURE UNTIL 1792 DUE TO THE COLOURS BEING THE SAME AS IN THE BRITISH UNION FLAG ( WHICH DID NOT HAVE THE IRISH RED SALTAIRE IN IT AT THE TIME ) AND THE AMERICAN FLAG ... BUT WHEN THE FRENCH REVOLUTION ESCALATED TO DEPOSING THE FRENCH KING THEY SWIFTLY REJECTED THE COLOUR BLUE AS BEING THAT OF FRENCH AND AMERICAN MILITARY UNIFORMS AND REPLACED IT WITH GREEN ARGUING THAT THE NEW FLAG SYMBOLISED PEACEFUL POLITICAL REFORM BETWEEN THE DEMOCRATS AND THE ARISTOCRATS WHO RULED THEM ... AND THEN BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO AVOID THE RESEMBLANCE TO THE FRENCH TRICOLOURE AND EMPHASISE THE EXISTING POLITICAL ORDER THEY TURNED IT ON ITS SIDE AS A TRIBAND WITH RED FOR THE ARISTOCRACY ON TOP ... HOWEVER ANOTHER EXPLANATION IS THAT NAPOLEON PUT HIS BROTHER IN CHARGE OF ITALY UNDER THE GREEN-WHITE-RED TRICOLORE : HE LATER FLED TO AMERICA WHERE THE MEXICANS TRIED TO WOO HIM BY ADOPTING HIS FLAG ... THIS FLAG BECAME ASSOCIATED WITH INTERNATIONALIST REPUBLICANISM AND THOSE IN BRITAIN WHO ADHERED TO THE BONAPARTIST CAUSE USED IT ?

RED, WHITE AND GREEN WERE THE COLOURS USED BY THE THREE ROMAN TRIBES.

THESE TRICOLOURS AND TRIBANDS WERE REGULARLY SEIZED BY THE AUTHORITIES AS BEING SEDITIOUS BUT SOME REPUBLICAN IN WALES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 19C FIGURED OUT THAT HENRY TUDOR'S BATTLE FLAG HAD THE SAME COLOURS AND THEY COULD PARADE AROUND WITH WHAT WAS PROFESSED TO BE A ROYAL FLAG WHILST IT ALSO SYMBOLISED " Y REPWBLIC." IT WAS ALSO FIENDISHLY DIFFICULT TO MAKE " Y DDRAIG GOCH " IN COMPARISON TO SEWING TOGETHER THE THREE LENGTHS OF CLOTH WHICH FEATURED IN SO MANY DISORDERLY DEMONSTRATIONS ...

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5891#5891

SO ... AT THE VERY MOMENT WHEN BULLSXIT DEMANDS ALL HANDS ON DECK - IDEALLY A DOUBLING OF THE HOURS OF MPS AND A HALVING OF THEIR REMUNERATION - THE ONLY EFFECTIVE OPPOSITION TO THE GOVERNMENT WILL RECEIVE THAT TREATMENT INSTEAD ? ... MY TEENAGE ANARCHIST PERSONA IS LURKING NEARBY TONIGHT AND SALIVATING AT THE PROSPECT OF SOCIETY DESCENDING INTO CHAOS AS THE POUND PLUNGES AND TAXES SOAR AND MIDDLE-AGED EX-STUDENTS ARE AUCTIONED OFF FOR THEIR DEBTS INTO A LIFE TIME OF SLAVERY TO THE CHINESE BANKS AND THE OAPS RIOT IN THE SUPERMARKETS OVER THE COST OF LIVING ON BEANS ON TOAST AND THEIR GRANDCHILDREN ARE BOILED DOWN FOR SOAP SO THEIR PARENTS CAN PAY THEIR MORTGAGES ... ENTERTAINING BUT NOT A MATURE MAN'S REPUBLICAN CONCEPTION OF REVOLUTION : IT WOULD BE BLOODY CHAOS AND IN LIVING WHERE I LIVE I WOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT AND LUCKY TO ESCAPE WITH MY LIFE TO SIT ON COCK HILL AND STARE DOWN IN HORROR AS CARDIFF BURNS ...

[ ONE REASON WHY I LIKE THE IDEA OF " THE BLACK COCK " - APART FROM IT BEING A POPULAR PUB NAME IN SOUTH WALES - AS A SYMBOL FOR REPUBLICANISM IN WALES IS THAT THE HILL BOUNDING THE WEST OF OUR CAPITAL CITY OF CARDIFF WHICH RISES FROM THE MEDIEVAL LECKWITH BRIDGE OVER THE RIVER ELY AND IS VISIBLE FROM ALL OVER THE CITY IS COCK HILL / BRYN CEILIOG : COCKERELS HAVE HAD A LONG ASSOCIATION WITH REVOLUTION IN REPUBLICANISM FOR CENTURIES BECAUSE THEY SUMMON IN " THE GLORIOUS DAY " - BUT ALSO DAMN US FOR OUR SINS IN CHRISTIANITY THUS INDICT " THE LONG NIGHT " THAT WE ARE HAVING TO LIVE THROUGH AS PETER WAS DAMNED FOR BETRAYING CHRIST BY THE COCK CROWING - AND THAT COCKEREL APPEARED ON CHURCH STEEPLES WHERE IT SWUNG TO FACE THE STORM AND WAS STRUCK BY LIGHTNING WHICH ITSELF IS BOTH A SYMBOL OF DISASTER AND ENLIGHTENMENT - AND THE FATHER OF REPUBLICANISM SOCRATES ASKED HIS FRIENDS TO SACRIFICE A COCKEREL TO AESCLEPIUS IN A JOKEY REFERENCE TO DEATH BEING THE HEALER OF ALL ILLS - AND THE FRENCH COCKEREL IS A PUN UPON " GALLUS / GALLES " AND IN FRENCH WALES IS " LE PAYS DE GALLES." - AND FOR ME IT IS A PUN ON PACIFISTS " BEING CHICKEN." ...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From: David B Lawrence
Sent: 10 November 2017 16:28
To: Repwblic
Subject: Cock Aid - have a read of this please

https://www.charitycommissionni.org.uk/media/50732/20161118-ccni-eg032-model-constitution-for-small-unincorporated-associations.pdf

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/speaking-out-guidance-on-campaigning-and-political-activity-by-charities-cc9

TOO ELABORATE ? READ BELOW

David B. Lawrence,

Cock Aid exists for the purpose of administering a bank account to receive and distribute funds to pay for activities which promote awareness in Wales and The World of the ideologies, histories and cultures of Republicanisms as well as campaigns inspired by them.

Cock Aid is created to overcome several problems faced by " Y Repwblic " ( presently existing as repwblic.informe.com, rewblic.org, repwblic.cymru, repwblic.wales ) - (1) the funding of " Y Repwblic " activities by private individuals in a casual and unaccounted manner - (2) to avoid creating a bank account whose contents can be seized by infiltrators signing up to the bulletin board repwblic.informe.com and invoking Democracy to claim voting rights exercised by unknown persons in dubious locations - ( 3) to extend to major contributors to the activities of " Y Repwblic " a collective share in the control over it presently exercised by individuals - (4) to enable the funding of activities by having a means to receive advertising revenue and donations for them.

Cock Aid initially will have a minimum of three trustees entitled " President " " Secretary " and " Chancellor " ( i.e. treasurer ) and will be an un-incorporated body - not registered as a charity - in order to conduct its purpose on the simplest basis where those roles will each involve the right to operate the bank account for which Cock Aid is created for the purpose of controlling. All receipts and payments will be made through the account so that it constitutes a record of the financial activities of " Y Repwblic." There will be an Annual General Meeting directly after the end of the year to publish an account of these financial activities.

Other trustees may be recognised and invited to the Annual General Meeting on the basis that they are donors of funds to Cock Aid i.e. that other small organisations and individuals may use Cock Aid's bank account to make visible their financial activities and thereby become trustees entitled to participate in control over it and to decide how any surplus is to be distributed ( or not.) If this project " Cock Aid " fails then the remaining funds will be distributed to other Republican organisations or to organisations which promote similar aims and conform closely to that of normal Republican organisation - " The Birmingham Rules " of 1869.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From: Dafydd Thomas
Sent: 10 November 2017 20:24
To: David B Lawrence
Subject: Re: Cock Aid - have a read of this please

1) The name is Cock Aid, the badges are a French revolutionary Cockade and a Gallic Cockerel.

2) AIMS are detailed in the attatched document.

3) Committee consists of El Presidente, Secretary, Treasurer.

4) AGM elects Officers and transacts business

4.1) AGM is near to Bastille Day; Secretary organizes a place and time and tells the Members with 2 weeks notice.

4.2) If the Committee of 1/3 of the Members call an Extra General Meeting, then Secretary organizes a place and time and tells the Members with 2 weeks notice.

4.3) El Presidenta and/or La Presidenta wears a sash of bling.

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Daf has just suggested that the Cock of Cock Aid should be sporting a cockade. I like the connection with The Girondins but I do not like the stance of this cock with its wings extended sideways and downwards ...



https://gtte.wordpress.com/2013/10/31/the-gamecock-rooster-national-symbol-of-france/

... During the times of Ancient Rome, Suetonius, in The Twelve Caesars, noticed that, in Latin, rooster (gallus) and Gauls (Gallus) were homonyms. However the association of the Gallic rooster as a national symbol is apocryphal, as the rooster was neither regarded as a national personification nor as a sacred animal by the Gauls in their mythology and because there was no “Gallic nation” at the time, but a loose confederation of Gallic nations instead. But a closer review within that religious scheme tells us that “Mercury” was often portrayed with the cock a sacred animal among the Continental Celts. Julius Caesar in De Bello Gallico identified some gods worshipped in Gaul by using the names of their nearest Roman god rather than their Gaulish name, with Caesar saying “Mercury” was the god most revered in Gaul. The Irish god Lug identified as samildánach led to the widespread identification of Caesar’s Mercury as Lugus and thus also a sacred cock, the Gallic rooster, an emblem of France. ...

... Its association with France dates back from the Middle Age and is due to the play on words in Latin between Gallus, meaning an inhabitant of Gaul, and gallus, meaning rooster, or cockerel. Its use, by the enemies of France, dates to this period, originally a pun to make fun of the French, the association between the rooster and the Gauls/French was developed by the kings of France for the strong Christian symbol that the rooster represents : prior to being arrested, Jesus predicted that Peter would deny him three times before the rooster crowed on the following morning. At the rooster’s crowing, Peter remembered Jesus’s words. Its crowing at the dawning of each new morning made it a symbol of the daily victory of light over darkness and the triumph of good over evil. It is also an emblem of the Christian’s attitude of watchfulness and readiness for the sudden return of Christ, the resurrection of the dead, and the final judgment of humankind. That is why, during the Renaissance, the rooster became a symbol of France as a Catholic state and became a popular Christian image on weathervanes, also known as weathercocks. ...

... AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF A WEATHERCOCK AS A SYMBOL, SINGING OUT A WARNING ABOUT THE APPROACHING STORM AND STANDING ON THE SPIRE'S CROSS TREE - WHICH CAN BE READ AT AN ANGLE AS " N-E-W-S- " FROM BELOW - BROADCASTING IN ALL DIRECTIONS TO THE WORLD ...

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The Black Chicken which now sports a cockade_Is a symbol to portray our blockade :_A barricade made with every word_Whose meanings are played to be absurd_All to be funded through the account " Cock Aid " - !!!

The Black Chicken which now sports a cockade_
Is a symbol to portray our blockade :_
A barricade made with every word_
Whose meanings are played to be absurd_
All funded through the account " Cock Aid " - !!!

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My foot is painful yet always lame_My walking is better but still quite tame_I want to make it up Cock Hill_But that seems too dangerous so I still_Plod away at this Repwblican game

My foot is painful and always lame_
My walking is better yet still quite tame_
I want to make it up Cock Hill_
But that seems too dangerous so I still_
Plod away at this Repwblican game.

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !

Cock Hill is the prominent wooded hill which dominates the western edge of Cardiff roughly opposite the football and athletic stadiums.
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