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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 3:20 pm    Post subject: " The Birmingham Rules " Reply with quote

The Treason Felony Act of 1848 lent credence to the idea that Republicanism was a crime and Republicans became subject to the kind of prejudice if not open hostility which is still practiced against us by the supporters of The United Kingdom in the 21st century. In the 1860s Charles Cockbill Cattell was a self-taught Republican who in order to protect himself from this and so to remain in employment wrote under the pseudonym " Christopher Charles." He founded The Birmingham Republican Club and was the main draughtsman of these rules which were subsequently adopted in the 1870s by many of the Republican clubs whether allied to The National Republican League ( prominent leader Charles Bradlaugh ) or The National Republican Brotherhood ( prominent leader John de Morgan.) This resurrection of The Republican Movement in the 1870s preceded the wider enlargement of the suffrage as a response to it and from the 1885 General Election onwards the newly enfranchised working class voters began to both organise and diverge, with the consequence being emergence of The Independent Labour Party ( 1893 ) The Socialist Party ( 1904 ) The Labour Party ( 1906 ) The Cooperative Party ( 1917 ) The Communist Party ( 1920 ) The Fascist Party ( 1923 ) Plaid Genedlaethol Cymru ( 1925 ) and many others - whilst throughout this period there were various splits within The Liberal Party and The Conservative Party ... and this was just in Wales !

The Republican Club was supposed to resist this sectarianism and usually three reasons were given - ( a ) the purpose of meeting together is not to compete to ' win ' and so gain control of The Republican Club and use it as a weapon to pursue some other political end : The Republican Club is a political end in itself which is ( b ) the purpose of meeting together is to be able to hear many differing ideological viewpoints and to learn from them, thus enlarging our understanding of the society that we live in - and so ( c ) those who enter into a better understanding of each other become less interested in competing to impose their own wills upon others and more interested in cooperating together to establish and to maintain those things they can agree upon : this is because otherwise politics becomes the futile and destructive exercise that we see being conducted by The Democrats in Wales and The World - that " A Left Party " seizes control of The State and uses it to destroy everything that it disagrees with and then tries to build upon what is left ... and then " A Right Party " seizes control of The State and does exactly the same, declaring that they are right ... as the contention between " The Left " and " The Right " continues their behaviour is akin to each being a parent pushing a child upon a swing between them : the child is screaming but they are oblivious, being intent upon ' winning.'

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rise-British-Republican-Clubs-1871-1874/dp/1897856083/

The Rise and Fall of British Republican Clubs 1871-1874 - Christopher J. Rumsey - pages 114-116 - Appendix 4 :

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The Rules of The Birmingham Republican Club 1871 ( adopted 24 January - implemented 14 February ) - " The Birmingham Rules " - as draughted by Charles Cockbill Cattell

1) That this be called " The Birmingham Republican Club."

2) That the objects shall be to unite all Republicans in this town and neighbourhood ; to correspond with all Republicans in this and other countries ; to collect books, papers, and information on Republicanism and Republican doings and institutions in all ages and countries ; to promote all efforts in parliament, on platforms, and in the press, which have a tendency in the direction of Republicanism, or which are in harmony with Republican principles. The object of all action taken by the club shall be to teach the best principles of civil government amongst mankind.

3) That the word Republic shall be used by the members to signify a Commonwealth, a State or a unity of States in which public affairs shall b managed by persons appointed by the people ; and in which the exercise of the sovereign power shall be placed in the representatives freely elected by the people.

4) That this club shall consist of active, passive, and honarary members, who shall be elected by a majority of members present at any ordinary meeting of the club, and they shall be elected by ballot. The form of application being duly signed shall be taken as the nomination of the member, and he shall be eligible for election ( whether present or absent ) at the meeting when that form is received.

5) That active and passive members pay a subscription of not less than sixpence a year.

6) Form of application for membership :

I, the undersigned desire to become a member of The Birmingham Republican Club, and hereby pledge myself, if elected, to promote its objects, conform to its rules, and act in concert with its members.

Name __________________________________________
Address ________________________________________
Trade or Profession _______________________________

On receipt of a paper filled up as above, and a subscription of not less than sixpence, the name will be given to the members, and the result of the ballot will be communicated by the secretary. The book of names will not be seen by anybody outside the Club nor will the names be published in any form without the consent of the member in question.

7) That the officers shall consist of a President, and Vice-president ( to be elected quarterly, in March, June, September, and December,) and such others as the members may from time to time appoint. The members shall have power to remove any officer and appoint another in his place, if circumstances require it, between the times of election herein specified.

Cool That on all questions there shall be absolute freedom of discussion.

9) That all proceedings of the Club, and all public acts of its members approved by the Club, shall be recorded in a book, which shall be accessible to members only, and which shall be in the club-room at every meeting ; and all proposals of whatever character shall be made in writing, and be hung up in the club-room, or be otherwise brought before the notice of every member present at any meeting when such proposals are made - and whether adopted or not shall be preserved, on a file or otherwise, for the use of the members.

10) That all decisions arrived at or proceedings undertaken by a majority of the members shall be binding upon and supported by the minority ; and no pecuniary liability shall be incurred until funds for the same shall have been guaranteed.

11) That the objects of this Club shall be promoted by intellectual, legal, and moral means ; and that no rule shall be construed to mean anything to the contrary.

12) That these rules shall not be altered or amended except at a meeting of two-thirds of the members present at a meeting of which they shall have notice, through the post, at least two meeting nights before such alteration shall be discussed or made.

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POST SCRIPT : DESPITE THERE HAVING BEEN OVER A HUNDRED " BIRMINGHAM RULES " REPUBLICAN CLUBS IN THE 19C, NO CLUB BOOKS HAVE SURVIVED.

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHEN I TURNED TO WRITE THE ABOVE IT WAS IN A STATE OF PUZZLEMENT - SURELY I HAD ALREADY WRITTEN SOMETHING ... THIS WAS IN DRAFTS -

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APPENDIX 4 - page 114 - The Rise and Fall of British Republican Clubs 1871 - 1874 - Christopher Rumsey - isbn 1897856 08 3

THE RULES OF BIRMINGHAM REPUBLICAN CLUB

1 - That this be called " The Birmingham Republican Club."

2 - That the objects shall be to unite all Republicans in this town and neighbourhood ; to correspond with all Republicans in this and other countries ; to collect books, papers, and information on Republicanism and Republican doings and institutions in all ages and countries ; to promote all efforts in parliament, on platforms, and in the press, which have a tendency in the direction of Republicanism, or which are in harmony with Republican principles. The object of all action taken by the club shall be to teach the best principles of civil government amongst mankind.

3 - That the word Republic shall be used by the members to signify a Commonwealth, a State or a unity of States in which public affairs shall be managed by persons appointed by the people ; and in which the exercise of the sovereign power shall be placed in the representatives freely elected by the people.

4 - That this club shall consist of active, passive, and honorary members, who shall be elected by a majority of members present at any ordinary meeting of the club, and they shall be elected by ballot. The form of application being duly signed shall be taken as the nomination of the member, and he shall be eligible for election ( whether present or absent ) at the meeting when the form is received.

5 - That active and passive members pay a subscription of not less than sixpence a year.

6 - Form of application for membership : - " I the undersigned desire to become a member of the Birmingham Republican Club and hereby pledge myself, if elected, to promote its objects, conform to its rules, and act in concert with its members. SIGNED _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NAME _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ADDRESS _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ TRADE OR PROFESSION _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "

On the receipt of a paper filled up as above, and a subscription of not less than sixpence, the name will be given to the members, and the result of the ballot will be communicated by the secretary. The book of names will not be seen by anybody outside the Club nor will the names of members be published in any form without the consent of the member in question.

7 - That the officers shall consist of a President and Vice-President ( to be elected quarterly, in March, June, September and December, ) a Treasurer, Librarian and Secretary ( to be elected half-yearly, in June and December, ) and such others as the members may from time to time appoint. The members shall have power to remove any officer and appoint another in his place, if circumstances require it between the times of election herein specified.

8 - That on all questions there shall be absolute freedom of discussion.

9 - That all proceedings of the Club, and all public acts of its members approved by the Club, shall be recorded in a book which shall be accessible to members only, and which shall be in the club-room at every meeting ; and all proposals of whatever character shall be made in writing, and be hung up in the club-room, or otherwise be brought before the notice of every member present at any meeting when such proposals are made - and whether adopted or not shall be preserved, on a file or otherwise, for the use of the members.

10 - That all decisions arrived at or proceedings undertaken by a majority of the members shall be binding upon and supported by the minority ; and no pecuniary liability shall be incurred until funds for the same shall have been guaranteed.

11 - That the objects of this Club shall be promoted by intellectual, legal, and moral means ; and that no rule shall be construed to mean anything to the contrary.

12 - That these rules shall not be altered or amended except at a meeting of two-thirds of the embers present at a meeting of which they shall have notice, through the post, at least two meeting nights before such alteration shall be discussed or made.

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( ... AND I HAVE NO TIME AT THE MOMENT TO CHECK THROUGH THIS BLURB ... )
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The importance of " The Birmingham Rules " lies in the way in which the Treason Felony Act 1848 was written : to avoid preventing those in universities or gentlemen's clubs from discussing whatever they wished Republicanism is not mentioned by it. Those who attended public schools ( i.e. fee paying boarding schools for the wealthy and privileged ) inevitably were taught Latin and sometimes Greek and they were therefore deeply steeped in the ideas of Republicanism by having read Cicero, Pliny, Plato, Aristotle etc. These were the people who in adulthood automatically became the political communities of the United Kingdom and inevitably many of them offered themselves to those being oppressed by it. Prior to the French Revolution it was perfectly common-place for privileged people of good conscience to not only offer their educated advice but also to become advocates for those lacking education and social standing and this was perceived as being a very respectable thing to do e.g. the Carmarthenshire Lawyer Hugh Williams addressed political meetings by driving to them in his open carriage and using it as a platform to speak on behalf of Chartists and Rebeccites.




By the end of the Napoleonic Wars it had become very definitely a very defiant thing to do and becoming an advocate even of rather mild political reforms was considered to be subversive. To be an advocate of political reforms to establish a more democratic form of government was considered to be treasonous and even the mild-mannered Quaker and committed pacifist Joseph Tregelles Price was viewed as a dangerous radical merely for trying to save Dic Penderyn from being hanged in 1831. Apparently all that Dic Penderyn did was to be at the front of a demonstration in Merthyr Tydfil when the Scottish troops present were order to fix bayonets and he was falsely accused of wounding a soldier and tried and hanged for it post haste to make an example to intimidate the people of that town : he had killed no one and even if not found guilty on perjured evidence his actions were an attempt to save not take lives. The privileged political elite ordered the soldiers to open fire into a crowd of people of all ages and both sexes - ' blamelessly.'




From the outbreak of the war against the French Republic more and more legislation was passed to suppress any kind of organisation suspected of being democratic : friendly societies and benefit clubs, trade unions and cooperatives, societies secular and religious all came under pressure and without legal advice people were terrified because magistrates simply declared their activities illegal and invoked these laws as their justification. Terrified because the penalties even for being caught singing a radical song might be prison, death or transportation under such laws. The Treason Felony Act 1848 was more or less the last of these evil laws to be passed and is stubbornly proving to be the last to be repealed although it now contradicts the European Human Rights Act 1998 which is as a European Community law should over-rule it in court cases.




Most people in the United Kingdom still believe in the idea that Republicanism is a creed of hatred, lies and violence and the reason that they do so lies in the lies spread within the United Kingdom by the propaganda made against those who have opposed its imperialism and fought back against its violence. Thus people think that Republicanism advocates war ( actually it objects to war and advocates peace as the necessary condition to do politics at all ) and means getting rid of the Royal Family ( actually there is no problem with a ' crowned republic ' if its sovereignty is located in its laws ) or that it is an extreme form of radical separatist Nationalism or an odious kind of petty Racism* or even a sort of Fascism ( actually it is Internationalist and Cosmopolitan i.e. Republicanisms are all directed towards various schemes of world government.)




[ * Someone, either an idiot or a provacateur, has actually proudly proclaimed on the Neo-Nazi website " Stormfront " that Repwblic is " A White Suprematist Organisation " - " White " as a political colour has denoted the " right-hand path " or " dexter " side of Republicanism for over two thousand years - just as " Black " as a political colour is " sinister " because it still denotes the " left-hand path." When you sought to participate in the political system in the Roman Republic you put on a specially bleached and chalked and therefore very white toga - the " toga candida " - which is where we get the English word " candidates " from which literally means " The White Ones." The same symbolism is still around in most weddings in modern Wales where the bride is almost inevitably dressed in a voluminous bright white dress to proclaim her innocence, whereas the groom is almost inevitably dressed entirely in black to silently proclaim that she most certainly isn't and that he is only participating in this under protest. " The Black Ones " confronted Julius Caesar in the Senate when he walked in confident that he would find every man in a " toga candida " and all quivering like jelly because he and his mates had just overthrown the Roman Republic and Cicero had only just escaped with his life. Those who had put on their " toga candida " to greet him were quivering like jelly because they were totally outnumbered by those who had instead put on black togas and pulled the ends of them over their heads to cover their faces : this is exactly the same symbolism we still see today in funerals - and when our " Black Faction " wear black on parade it can be taken to be a reference to this - not to Hitler's SS ! One of the most famous of Roman Republicans was Cato the Younger who was noted for wearing this black " toga pulla " and he Julius Caesar's bitterest and most stubborn opponent : the embodiment of the Republican resistance to tyranny. ]




There is a certain ironical difference between Ireland's embodiment of Republican resistance Wolfe Tone and Wales' who might well be ... Bowen ... and I can't even remember his first name ! Wolfe Tone failed to land an army of the French Republic in Ireland and Bowen succeeded - yet Wolfe Tone has statues erected to him and ... what was his name again ? It was probably Bowen who had previously lived at a nearby farm who guided the French fleet to Carreg Wasted because how else would foreigners find it ? The troops which landed were led by Irish American Colonel Tate and their uniforms were ex-British Army ones captured and dyed black - and thus were dubbed " La Legion Noire," only they were not really, the colour of the dyestuff had run - and since many of them had been criminals brought out of jail just for this purpose they ran amok soon after they landed got drunk and Tate had to give up as discipline collapsed ... so much for black factions ... the reaction in Wales is visible in the literature : not so much a mountain as a volcano outpouring indignation, patriotism and an extreme amount of anxiety about what the neighbours might be thinking. Magistrates and constables swarmed abroad searching for the likely suspects such as those who might be suspected of poetry or who were found to be in possession of a pencil. When the Napoleonic wars ended and the war time boom economy collapsed after twenty two years of all out warfare then the civil unrest began in earnest and the suppression of protest was at the expense of what most thought they had been told that they were fighting for. Following the French struggle to re-assert the political rights promised to them by the United Kingdom in La Charte, a Charter was born in London and perceiving it to have been murdered in its cradle there a " black faction " arose amongst the penniless and desperate for bread who then risked their lives in the Newport Rising of 1839. In London things were equally desperate but more disciplined and the petitions and protests continued with occasional riots until the police attacked a demonstration in 1848 which led to three days of riots. The Treason Felony Act 1848 followed but it was more the result of fears caused by the series of revolutions in Europe.




The various shades of radical political opinion were thrown into confusion : was Republicanism now legal or not ? The Republican movement split into what were to become basically three parts. The educated upper classes shrank before the societal pressure and retreated behind closed doors abandoning their roles as spokesmen and advocates for the poor. The half educated middle class dropped the word ' Republican ' for ' Radical ' and set about agitating for legislative reforms. The uneducated working class dropped the word ' Republican ' for ' Socialist ' and gave up on parliamentary action because they had no votes and turned to trade unionism, mutual benefit societies, alcohol and opiates to ease their pains. Things looked bad - really bad - but events then lent a hand with the Prince of Wales ending up as the correspondent in a very publicly divorce case, Queen Victoria retreating from the world in her grief over Albert's death and yet another French Revolution to excite our imaginations with the Third French Republic - hurrah ! - and then a self-taught bar-room lawyer turned up in Birmingham with a cunning plan ... the political establishment had everybody scared because if they publicly supported Republicanism they would lose their jobs or worse ... but the educated upper class Republicans met behind closed doors and were left alone - so why not copy them and found Republican Clubs to meet in private but not in secret ? Everything had to be scrupulously legal so that if anybody tried to prosecute them they would fail - but what exactly were the laws that they might be prosecuted under ? There were many more laws of this sort to fear in 1869, but Christopher Charles worked quietly and diligently upon the matter and often must have burned the midnight oil before he laid the " The Birmingham Rules " on his table in the cold light of a new dawning day and went to his place of work as Charles Cattell.




How then did Gladstone and Disraeli and then their successors respond to this unexpected initiative ? Well they had the rolling weight of eighty years of propaganda behind themselves and the newspapers to maintain the idea that Republicans are criminals, deviants and madmen and that we are all safely locked up either in jails, universities or psychiatric wards. The policy has long been established to mostly simply ignore Republicanism within the United Kingdom, to never mention us in parliamentary debates or lend our politics any credence by allowing our opinions to be correctly reported in the press. This proved to be more difficult in Ireland where the plight of the populace was more desperate and the history of violence against the people weighed more heavily upon them too. Can I say that anything other than what has happened in Ireland might have been different ... well if I said " no " then I would not be a Republican would I ? ... But speculation doesn't help. To place myself into an alternatively imagined life in Northern Ireland this past fifty years instead of here I suspect that I would turn out much the same as somebody over there and not be myself as I know me at all. As myself translated over there I would end up supporting the Alliance Party because I believe them to be everything that a Republican party should be : they have courageously chosen to stand in the no-mans-land of a deeply divided society whilst those entrenched upon either side of them have carried on regardlessly with their warfare. This arguably makes the Alliance not Sinn Fein the true and sole inheritors of Republicanism in Ireland because there is no comparable party to the Alliance Party in the Republic of Ireland where the right wing succession party Fianna Fail in divorcing itself from left wing Sinn Fein unbalanced itself.


David B. Lawrence,
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7) That the officers shall consist of a President, and Vice-president ( to be elected quarterly, in March, June, September, and December,) and such others as the members may from time to time appoint. The members shall have power to remove any officer and appoint another in his place, if circumstances require it, between the times of election herein specified.


Replace with
.1) That the officers shall consist of El Presidente/La Presidenta, Secretary and Treasurer

.2) ( to be elected quarterly, in March, June, September, and December,)
What's wrong with annual elections?

and such others as the members may from time to time appoint. The members shall have power to remove any officer and appoint another in his place, if circumstances require it, between the times of election herein specified.

.3) Replace 'he', 'him', 'his' etc with 'they', 'them', 'their' etc throughout and adjust the verbs when necessary.

.4) Add a clause about El Presidente's sash of bling / La Presidenta's sash of bling.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Giving out orders again ... we are not in The Free Wales Army you know ... why don't you re-draft it then for modern times ?
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dai wrote:
Giving out orders again ... we are not in The Free Wales Army you know ... why don't you re-draft it then for modern times ?


I sorta kinda did: replace male stereotype pronouns with "they" etc; replace Comite of 2 with Comite of 5. Cut out all the whimsy and short-cuts.


That is my redraught
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know that I love you - you old bugger ! - but you too do whimsicalitie ...

... could you work out how the rules of reality could be re-written to enable Y Repwblic's virtuality ?

I am thinking about the bank account project - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1214

I think that several of " The Birmingham Rules " are irrelevant to Y Repwblic.

But it is also necessary to also consider the rules of " The Open Conspiracy."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Open_Conspiracy

" ... a "scheme to thrust forward and establish a human control over the destinies of life and liberate it from its present dangers, uncertainties and miseries." ... that this can be the basis of "a world revolution aiming at universal peace, welfare and happy activity" that can result in the establishment of a "world commonweal" ... in order to weave the beginnings of a world community ... What is contemplated is not a stable order, but rather a dynamic, changing state of affairs in which scientific research and creative activity become the chief preoccupations of a humanity that has solved the problems of subsistence, population control, and the suppression of war ... "

... Yeah - I know - you will agree with some of this bit of that page :

" ... Wells' biographer Michael Sherborne notes that while Wells' critics have described The Open Conspiracy as anti-democratic and elitist, his supporters have argued the book is "a boost for a civil society realized today by bodies such as Greenpeace and Amnesty International." ... "
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:21 pm    Post subject: eek Reply with quote

The words 'el presidente or la presidenta' are now enough to strike fear into the soul. I'm not thinking of a little adjustment for grammatical gender.

I'm petrified of what will happen in the next 24 hours. It's not just because I don't want to lose the stake I put down at William Hill's, when I guessed with a kind of desperate false optimism that Clinton would win.

If Trump becomes president, it will be like Idi Amin becoming the most powerful person on the planet. He will destroy the world. We'd be better off with Pongo the chimp in the White House.

If I believed in God, I'd be praying that the lunatic Trump can be deflected in his trajectory towards the nuclear button. This may be the most serious crisis the world has ever known.

People say the wild moron can't become president. But people also said the 'leave' side could never win the referendum.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then replace Presidente with Mayor/ Majora Alcalde/Alcalda whatever as long as I get my Sash of Bling and I am Lord high Xecutioner.
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[ I meant to suggest a gag for you to try writing : HENRY VIII ALREADY DID " BREXIT " - how about Thomas Cromwell as Nigel Farage & Anne Boleyn as Theresa May ? ]

What did you say recently in that conversation about the Latin feminine for " Judge of the Illuminated " - when I was discussing whether it was a breach of her privacy after her death to publish a photo of Abigail as " A Citizenne in The Republic in The USA - and later in Cathays, Cardiff, Wales, The World, The Cosmos - and now Heaven " - ? ... Do you think that The Illiminata can sweet talk The Angels into allowing The Cardiff Illuminati to revise The Nomos ? ... Just a tweak here and there, a few minor adjustments to The Cosmological Constants in order to allow The World and Wales to work a little better ... Only those in The Public Interest I mean ... after all - " In the beginning God created The Heaven and The Earth " - and so non-theistically speaking it should not really concern The Deity as to whether we experiment a bit with improving The World since according to The Words in The Book He/She/It/Thingy precedes Existence and therefore neither " exists " nor " not exists " ...

... i.e. is not part of Creation and therefore whilst The Deity may - or may not -be interested in The Cosmos - The Thingy is not bound as The People in Wales and The World are by The Nomos and therefore has no right to decide what The Natural Law ought to be ... Indeed why should The Democrats in Brussels be allowed to decide what The Law of Gravity ought to be in Wales ? ... I did not even accept all of that awkward " lb/ft " nonsense when The Democrats in Westminster had " Sovereignty " over Wales - and I swear that the present constitutional arrangements in The Welsh Assembly will favour North Wales Gravity over South Wales Gravity : why even accept the idea of " Cosmological Constants " - everything is relative according to Einstein so let everybody decide for themselves what degree of gravity - or indeed levity - they want to have ... What we need to do about The Nomos is to alter to prevent depravity.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. Charlotte Church plays Anne Boleyn. Dafydd plays Cromwell. Daniel Craig plays King Harry. Doctor Who does it wrong and changes history. Papish Plot assassinates King Harry. Cromwell and Boleyn save Britain from European Union.

The Victory feast
Invited highest and least
To music and dancing and laughter
Too long they had tarried
So the crew all got ...
And happily lived ... ....
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Laughing
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Birmingham rules that Dai wanks over are retarded

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1) That this be called " The Birmingham Republican Club."

2) That the objects shall be to unite all Republicans in this town and neighbourhood ; to correspond with all Republicans in this and other countries ; to collect books, papers, and information on Republicanism and Republican doings and institutions in all ages and countries ; to promote all efforts in parliament, on platforms, and in the press, which have a tendency in the direction of Republicanism, or which are in harmony with Republican principles. The object of all action taken by the club shall be to teach the best principles of civil government amongst mankind.

3) That the word Republic shall be used by the members to signify a Commonwealth, a State or a unity of States in which public affairs shall b managed by persons appointed by the people ; and in which the exercise of the sovereign power shall be placed in the representatives freely elected by the people.

4) That this club shall consist of active, passive, and honarary members, who shall be elected by a majority of members present at any ordinary meeting of the club, and they shall be elected by ballot. The form of application being duly signed shall be taken as the nomination of the member, and he shall be eligible for election ( whether present or absent ) at the meeting when that form is received.

5) That active and passive members pay a subscription of not less than sixpence a year.

6) Form of application for membership :

I, the undersigned desire to become a member of The Birmingham Republican Club, and hereby pledge myself, if elected, to promote its objects, conform to its rules, and act in concert with its members.

Name __________________________________________
Address ________________________________________
Trade or Profession _______________________________

On receipt of a paper filled up as above, and a subscription of not less than sixpence, the name will be given to the members, and the result of the ballot will be communicated by the secretary. The book of names will not be seen by anybody outside the Club nor will the names be published in any form without the consent of the member in question.

7) That the officers shall consist of a President, and Vice-president ( to be elected quarterly, in March, June, September, and December,) and such others as the members may from time to time appoint. The members shall have power to remove any officer and appoint another in his place, if circumstances require it, between the times of election herein specified.

That on all questions there shall be absolute freedom of discussion.

9) That all proceedings of the Club, and all public acts of its members approved by the Club, shall be recorded in a book, which shall be accessible to members only, and which shall be in the club-room at every meeting ; and all proposals of whatever character shall be made in writing, and be hung up in the club-room, or be otherwise brought before the notice of every member present at any meeting when such proposals are made - and whether adopted or not shall be preserved, on a file or otherwise, for the use of the members.

10) That all decisions arrived at or proceedings undertaken by a majority of the members shall be binding upon and supported by the minority ; and no pecuniary liability shall be incurred until funds for the same shall have been guaranteed.

11) That the objects of this Club shall be promoted by intellectual, legal, and moral means ; and that no rule shall be construed to mean anything to the contrary.

12) That these rules shall not be altered or amended except at a meeting of two-thirds of the members present at a meeting of which they shall have notice, through the post, at least two meeting nights before such alteration shall be discussed or made.


1) delete Birmingham

3) replace with Liberty, Equality, Fraternity, All Power to the Soviets


5) subs of 6d /yr? Victorian 6d = 1/160 ounce Troy of gold ~ $60, nice.
replace with subscriptions will be defined by the Annual General Meeting = AGM
6) delete Birmingham

7) That the officers shall consist of el Presidente, Secretary, Treasure ( to be elected at the AGM,) and such others as the members may from time to time appoint. The members shall have power to remove any officer and appoint another in his place, if circumstances require it, between the times of election herein specified. El Presidente shall have a sash of bling.

I can't find it. The rule that Dai was wanking over as the moistest importantest rule evah, the Royal chairman of Uselessness. Standing Oders are Chair votes as they please and if the vote is equal, then Chair has xtra casting vote. Dai has a short cut. Chairman cannot vote except for casting vote and then instead of voting as he pleases, there are 133 pages of rules about which way casting vote must go.

Under Dai's short cut, Chair need not bother turning up at all. And since no-one will bother standing for such a meaningless title. The people who do come to AGM may as well make someone who didn't come take this insulting position.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

Well at least you did take a look at it : my brain has been mashed by Lil'Sis.

As I told you earlier I was psychologically hoping to reach 1200 membership : hurrah !

1200 : Fernizwicky --- Malaysia ..... 07 Mar 2017
1199 : Billiegisee ----- USA ........... 07 Mar 2017
1198 : Gilberzhainc -- Cambodia ... 05 Mar 2017
1197 : Wendejgrio --- Poland ........ 04 Mar 2017
1196 : Lorrinepr ----- USA ............ 01 Mar 2017
1195 : Juztinjouff ---- Bahrain ...... 28 Feb 2017
1194 : Delmezfap --- Portugal ...... 26 Feb 2017
1193 : ZachezyCes -- Nigeria ....... 26 Feb 2017
1192 : Jorgelixas ---- Cameroon ... 25 Feb 2017
1191 : tonyajx69 ---- UK .............. 24 Feb 2017

Although we have a " Member List " of 1200 how meaningful is this kind of membership ? Many people have not signed up but just dip in casually : those who do sign on as " members " do so in order to have the threads that they are interested in monitored so that if we add to that thread then they get an email { TICK THE LAST BOX below the dialogue box " POST A REPLY " } This kind of silent sleeping membership tends to remind me of what happened in the Community Cooperative where the Self-Styled Trotskyite ####s signed up a load of other ####s who were not activists and not involved and understood nothing but at a given Trot signal turned up like ants pouring out of holes in the ground and suddenly stubbornly stung us .... We really ought to start reviving that 17c symbolism and extending it so The Ants / Soldiers / Democrats / War / Devolution are in contrast to The Bees / Workers / Republicans / Peace / Revolution ... I thought that you would be in favour of The Bees because surely we are both admirers of Napoleon but in differing qualified ways ... anyway I do not want the Community Cooperative fiasco to happen all over again by giving non-contributing members a vote in our affairs in exchange for a nominal cash contribution ...

... Hence the reason for not giving " Y Repwblic " a bank account : if there was anything in it this passive membership might suddenly be organised behind the scenes through the messaging system to materialise and grab every penny which we have - I mean all of them : both of them - and those grimey centimes at the bottom of your drawers ... the idea behind " Cock Aid " was that we might sell some advertising on " Y Repwblic " and enough might trickle in to raise $120 or so a year to pay off the annual domain registrations for repwblic.org, repwblic.cymru and repwblic.wales which I presently pay ... If we start receiving donations rather than just pay these bills out of our private pockets these can not go - for propriety's sake - into our private accounts nor get chucked into the bottom of your drawers : both for the sake of banking convenience and to lay the foundations of our future greatness - let us be a bit more professional ... we can of course still keep the funds for the revolution in the jam jar on the shelf - if we remain sober enough to repay the beer money we borrowed back into it every Monday ...

SEVERAL HOURS LATER I NOTED THESE STATS ELSEWHERE -

04.30 on 08-03-17 :

Our users have posted a total of 4201 articles
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In total there are 3 users online :: 0 Registered, 1 Hidden and 2 Guests [ Administrator ] [ Moderator ]
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Adapting " The Birmingham Rules " for " Y Repwblic "

1) That this be called " The Birmingham Republican Club."

1) That this be called " Y Repwblic yng Nghymru a'r Byd : The Republic in Wales and The World " and this is founded as a club upon the pattern of the 1869 rules of The Birmingham Republican Club which we revise thus -

2) That the objects shall be to unite all Republicans in this town and neighbourhood ; to correspond with all Republicans in this and other countries ; to collect books, papers, and information on Republicanism and Republican doings and institutions in all ages and countries ; to promote all efforts in parliament, on platforms, and in the press, which have a tendency in the direction of Republicanism, or which are in harmony with Republican principles. The object of all action taken by the club shall be to teach the best principles of civil government amongst mankind.

2) That the object shall be to re-unite The Republicans in Wales with The Republicans in The World - by

[a] providing various means to correspond with all Republicans in this and other countries, primarily since 7th January 2007 through a phpBB board - http://repwblic.informe.com/ - entitled " Y Repwblic : Conversations with Wales' Republicans : Poblachiaethwyr - Repwbligwyr - Gweriniaethwyr ";

[b] similarly by providing various means to publish information about the diverse forms of The Republicanisms in Wales and The World in order to refute the mis-information which has been published as propaganda against our political tradition here in Wales - which has always been predominantly " White " i.e. a Classical Ciceronian " Civic Republicanism " with a heavy emphasis upon " The Rule of Law " which characterises it also as " Nomocratic " ;

[c] similarly by providing various means to socialise so that those wishing to encounter The Republicans in Wales and The World can read for themselves and on occasions physically meet with a variety of different kinds of The Republicanisms in Wales - whether White and / or any of its constituent colours - " Blue, Green, Yellow, Orange, Red, Purple " are assigned in " The Model " to " Conservative, Fascist, Liberal, Anarchist, Socialist, Communist Republicanisms " - and decide for themselves what kinds of people associate themselves with " the online mini-parliament " or " The Republic of Letters " which " Y Repwblic " is intended to be.

[d] in providing these various means to correspond, publish and socialise with The Republicans in Wales the way in which " Y Repwblic " developed since 2007 - as a series of exchanges of opinions, articles on various subjects and banter between friends - with actual political activism barely mentioned on the board and only that necessary to its continued existence featuring on it ) - acquired the apparent features of a " Pure Republicanism " i.e. the affairs of " Y Repwblic " are being conducted by argument only and therefore " Nomocracy " has been formally adopted because of the novel problems presented by a large passive membership who are making neither literary nor financial contributions but who upon being given a vote could destroy the project : hence " Y Repwblic " must be Nomocratic not Democratic.


[ AND I KNOW THAT YOU DO NOT LIKE " PURE " DAF BUT IF I ALLOWED YOU TO CONDUCT A VOTE ON YOUR PRESIDENCY YOU WOULD START REGISTERING EVERY EAGLE YOU OWN AS A VOTING MEMBER - NOT TO MENTION ALL OF THOSE VARIOUS STAR WAR CHARACTERS AND SEVERAL OTHERS THAT YOU WOULD JUST MAKE UP : I AM NOT GOING TO ALLOW THIS ON THE BOARD JUST BECAUSE THE ELECTORAL REGISTRATION OFFICERS ARE GETTING AWAY WITH THIS SORT OF SHENANIGANS ]

... oh ... does this work ? ... I gave it an extra half an hour for this ?

There once was a Democrat - or so I thought I read :

There was a type of politician who - as we have so often read -
Died alone with his boots still on - and in another man's bed ...
He had claimed that he always known the score
And - therefore - could pick up voters like a whore -
Who knocked him up - and then down : The Democrat is Dead.

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !

He claimed to always know the score :
And he picked up voters like a whore -
Until he got knocked up
But he got knocked up - and so : The Democrat is Dead.
But he got knocked up - and then down : The Democrat is Dead.
Who first knocked him up - and then down : The Democrat is Dead.
Knocking them up
upon their every door -
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3) That the word Republic shall be used by the members to signify a Commonwealth, a State or a unity of States in which public affairs shall b managed by persons appointed by the people ; and in which the exercise of the sovereign power shall be placed in the representatives freely elected by the people.

And you said " 3) replace with Liberty, Equality, Fraternity, All Power to the Soviets " which of course I sort of agree with, because I used the old values " Liberty, Equality, Fraternity " in The Model by using them as basis of its three dimensional axes thus -

( OLD FASHIONED ) LEFT - CENTRE - RIGHT

Anarchism = ....... +ve Liberty ---Z--- -ve Liberty = ......... Conservatism

Socialism = ....... +ve Equality ---Y--- -ve Equality = ................ Fascism

Communism = +ve Fraternity ---X--- -ve Fraternity = ......... Liberalism

- but note that the model predicts that you can only have all three values in balance when the axes X,Y,Z meet at the origin i.e. The Model predicts that Liberty, Equality and Fraternity can only be balanced when their values X,Y and Z = ZERO and that they can have negative values e.g. Liberalism really deals in egotistic individualisms and as such is a negative to Communism's positive Fraternity. The point is that there is constant tension and a changing balance between the political ideologies which we normally label LEFT and RIGHT whereas in " The Model " - whilst we retain that for explanatory purposes in two dimensions - in three dimensions these six ideologies are arranged as antagonistic pairs on the Z, Y and X axes with Conservative, Fascist and Liberal ideologies presented on them visually as if on the RIGHT ... but actually arranged as [ Conservative = +Z / -Z = Anarchist ] [ Fascist = +Y / -Y = Socialist ] [ Liberal = +X / -X = Communist ] ... and not just a a result of an accident.

The idea behind " The Model " was to create something sophisticated enough to model the real behaviour of political parties in terms of their ideological meanderings but nothing so sophisticated that ordinary people could not come to quickly understand it in a matter of minutes and thus have in their hands a tool from Republicanism which they can see is useful and yet can use without having to worry about its ideological origins. Then they will be able to see for themselves that the more these Democrats' behaviours produce " Pendulum Politics " e.g. L&CP plunging us LEFT into debt which distresses all of those who find themselves bailing out the bankers - yet UKIP then plunge us RIGHT into the nightmare of BREXIT which C&UP instead of being honest with The People in Wales and Europe and saying that the promises made about BREXIT were complete fantasies and will not be possible to deliver - so the SNP will offer The People in Scotland yet another fantastic deal including free offers and very small smaller print and ... oh - let us not worry about Plaid Cymru : their fantasies are so incredible - Leanne keeps using the word and declaring that we are not going to believe Plaid's newest policy proposals - and we dutifully do not ... anyway hopfully non-Republicans will grasp the same idea which is that as Republicans we dislike the wild destructive swings involved in Pendulum Politics and much prefer the smoothly stabilising revolutions of Gyroscopes ... no - not more scopes for Giros ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cquvA_IpEsA

" The Model " is not like the BBC's " Swingometer " but rather more akin to a Gyroscope in its conception : if a political system lacks the necessary number of revolutions then it becomes unstable, it starts to sway not merely from LEFT to RIGHT but to slop around all over the place because there is not enough momentum ( no - I do not mean the Labour Friends of His Real Lowness Jeremy For Bin ) to hold the CENTRE ...

http://www.online-literature.com/donne/780/

THE SECOND COMING

TURNING and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity. ... ... ... ...

... ... ... ... ... ... but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, ...

W B Yeats - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._B._Yeats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_6p-1J551Y

This type of Cubical Frame + Internal Gyroscope could be a fine metaphor for Pure Republicanism's anti-Democratic methods which seek to control the sectarian private interests which drive the Pendulum Politics which characterise The United Kingdom as a non-political system whose foundations were laid in a series of civil wars which are by no means now over nor merely fossilised remains : these may be buried deep within the political permafrost but as the temperature of society starts to thaw out ... I guess that you might describe Republican politics as a balancing act which can only be performed from the CENTRE because you have to succeed in reconciling antagonistic politicos who are all lying their heads off in order to emotionally manipulate a majority of people into voting for them - whereas the more important forces upon society which are unknown but eroding away the economic basis which enables any politics to be done at all go uncommented upon except by those who are being driven down by these into poverty and misery but of course such people are of no consequence, especially if The Democrats in Wales have left them to rot on Welfare Benefits since 1984 to bring up their children and grandchildren in poverty ... Democracy of course is about equality before The Rule of Law - excepting that in The United Kingdom " The Rule of Law " does not mean what it means in civilised countries with Supreme Courts : the laws are deemed to apply to everyone - including The Republicans in France ...

... This guy should be arrested for crimes against Science : this lacks any revolutions and so it is not a Gyroscope but just a Gimbal -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimbal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1b-e_VnGEA - Human gyroscope at Science North - Sudbury News
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