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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: The Laws of Hywel Dda Reply with quote

Suprised to find this extract of on line copy ( I was looking up 'taeog' ) - http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=riJkAusB4JgC&printsec=frontcover

This page describes "choosing a king" - none of that primogeniture here ! http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=riJkAusB4JgC&pg=RA1-PA49&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=0_0#PRA1-PA51,M1

see also other pages - beware that it sets a limit on the number you can look at - http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=riJkAusB4JgC

http://www.hywel-dda.co.uk/ - shut when we visited

I personally feel that early medieval Wales can be easily argued to be republican in its extensive use of laws and holding the most powerful in the land accountable to them. It was when the later princes subverted the laws and opted for primogeniture to amass wealth to a single person to try to compete with the Norman barons that it all came unstuck, in becoming an economically and legally unequal society Wales lost its sense of the 'Res Publica' - " Oppressed by Barons ? Oppressed by Princes ? Who gives a shit - I'm not going out to fight for my right to be oppressed by anyone, I've got the cows to milk..."
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I just came across this useful text through an obscure search route -


Ancient laws and institutes of Wales; comprising laws supposed to be enacted by Howel the Good, modified by subsequent regulations under the native princes prior to the conquest by Edward the First: and anomalous laws ... with an English translation of the Welsh text. To which are added a few Latin transcripts, containing digests of the Welsh laws, principally of the Dimetian code. With indexes and glossary ... Printed by command of His late Majesty King William IV. under the direction of the Commissioners of the public records of the kingdom.

1841 - London, Printed by G. E. Eyre and A. Spottiswoode - by Aneurin Owen, 1792 - 1851.



The ancient laws of Cambria : containing the institutional triads of Dyvnwal Moelmud, the laws of Howel the Good, triadical commentaries, code of education, and the hunting laws of Wales : to which are added the historical triads of Britain / translated from the Welsh by William Probert.

1823 - London : E. Williams, 1823 - William Probert 1790 - 1870.


The laws of Howel Dda : a facsimile reprint of Llanstephan ms. 116 in the National library of Wales, Aberystwyth,

1912 - London, Pub. for the Guild of graduates of the University of Wales by H. Sotheran & co., - Timothy Lewis


Facsimile of the Chirk codex of the Welsh laws,

1909, Llanbedrog, N. Wales - edited by J. Gwenogvryn Evans.


Llyfr Iorwerth; a critical text of the Venedotian code of medieval Welsh law, mainly from BM. Cotton MS. Titus Dii. ( "The laws of Hywel Dda according to the Book of Iorwerth ap Madog." )

1960 - Cardiff, University of Wales Press - Transcribed and edited with introd. and notes by Aled Rhys Wiliam


Cyfreithiau Hywel Dda, o lawysgrif Coleg yr Iesu Rhydychen IVII

1957 - Caerdydd, Gwasg Prifysgol Cymru, - Melville Richards
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