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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:44 pm    Post subject: dial a diwetha Reply with quote

Sam Harris looked on the state of the world and despaired. On one side was Isis and Al Qaeda. On the other were the only people willing to 'call them out', those like Trump and Marine le Pen.

As much as they might have hated each other, there was little to choose between them. Harris said Jihadism was worse than than fascism only because Jihadis had no fear of death. If people are prepared to blow themselves up, what possible deterrent could there be?

Even I thought George Dubya Bush had not not got it quite right when he described the 9/11 hijackers as 'cowardly.' It's just about impossible to say if they were moral cowards.

They obviously didn't think so. They thought they were doing something really noble. But, then, they were not in contact with reality.

At the very least it didn't look as if they were physical cowards. They were taking themselves out, as well as everyone else.

It is a terrible meme that removes the fear of death. You could also see it in Kami Kazi pilots and in Vikings before they became Christians.

But we shouldn't despair. There is a chink in their spiritual armour.

Jihadis - or at least male Jihadis- believe that if they are killed by a woman, they will not go to Paradise. When female US soldiers advanced on Islamist warriors during the Gulf War, they turned yellow. In fact, they turned and ran like rabbits.

I thought that this meme could be put to strategic effect. Luckily, I was not the only one to get this idea.

A reporter recently spoke to Khatoon Khider. Khatoon is a Yazidi.

She used to be a singer. She was also a pacifist.

But she was mugged by reality. Jihadis invaded her village. Along with all her female friends, she was made a sex slave.

But they escaped or were freed. They now hate Jihadis so much that they have decided to take their revenge. Cadres of Amazonian Yazidis now hunt Jihadis with assault rifles and the like.

The Yazidi militias are mostly made up of nubile young women in their teens and twenties, who are former sex slaves. They are not taking it lying down now.

They are angry, and their lust for revenge is insatiable. They kill Jihadis by the thousand. One of them said, ''We kill them, and prevent their souls going to Paradise.''

The Jihaids run away when they see them coming. For Allah's warriors are total poltroons, total morons and totally delusional.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:09 pm    Post subject: Chibok Reply with quote

Boko Haram have re-entered Chibok where the boarding school is, and looted and burnt every thing in the town. That's not such good news. It's one step forward, two steps back. Sad Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dismal is it not ?

You have to sympathise I suppose with those who wanted overthrow him.

Given the provocation perhaps everybody will agree to overthrow the fools now.

Curiously little news about this on the BBC website despite the arrests ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38055357

... read any good books recently ? ... I keep acquiring them without any time to read them ...

... and I keep falling asleep to these - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9xvvzsoiWk
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:35 pm    Post subject: stupidus Reply with quote

I'm reading 'Sapiens' , an unusual take on the evolution of the human race, but I think it should be called 'Stupidus.' Islamism is not the only poisonous ideology in the Middle East.

Maybe we've been focusing on it to our detriment, and that of the local people. The incompetent would be massacre at a university in Ohio was the work of a rather unappreciative refugee from Somalia. He was an Islamist.

But Islamism is not to blame for the explosion at a sports stadium in Turkey. I had thought it might be an inside job by Erdogan, but a Kurdish group has claimed responsibility.

I don't think many people will go blank in future when they hear the word Aleppo as the Libertarian candidate in the US recently did. It will have connotations like Guernica or Srebinica.

We heard yesterday that it had fallen to Assad's forces, and the soldiers were going from street to street, shooting down civilians at random, many of them children. We also heard of children taking refuge in a public building that they would not be able to defend against the soldiery.

Last night Paddy Ashdown said that Aleppo was now a Golgotha. In our post Christian world, it might be necessary to explain that this alludes to Calvary, the place of the skull. The city is suffering like Jesus on the cross.

Although a ceasefire was expected to come into force today, no one had any confidence in it. Yesterday, we heard that this was already a massacre like that at Srebinica.

The messages coming out of Aleppo by video and other sources were in effect ''Goodbye, world'' or ''We don't expect to survive the next 48 hours.''

The outside world declined to intervene. Now it is too late. We, as a species, are not very interested in genocide except when it is happening to us personally.

We let it happen in Bosnia. We let it happen in Rwanda after receiving the message, 'We wish to inform you that tomorrow, we will be killed with our families.''

We have the best information technology the world has ever known. We can see exactly what is going on. And we are sitting back, and watching genocide unfold before our eyes.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:56 pm    Post subject: mulling Reply with quote

We heard that the young policeman who felled the Russian ambassador to Turkey with a bullet, called out in correct if not very idiomatic English, ''We die in Aleppo. You die here.''

It was a terrible thing to do, yet part of our minds could sympathise, given that Russia is implicated up to the hilt in Syria. But the story was later amended. Apparently, the 22 year old hothead had been shouting ''Allahu Akbar'' as the bullet found its target, which puts a different complexion on things.

Only hours later, revellers were enjoying currywurst and mulled wine at a Christmas market in Berlin. In an attack which may well have been knowingly modelled on the Bastille Day outrage in Marseilles, a truck was deliberately used as a weapon, ploughing through the citizens.

Fewer than ten fatalities occurred on the spot. But about fifty people were hospitalised with life threatening injuries.

The young Polish driver had no responsibility for it . He had resisted the Islamist who hi-jacked the vehicle and was later found comatose with multiple defence wounds.

The assailant is still at large, said to be armed and dangerous, and may have crossed an open border into another European country, hell bent on more mayhem. He has been identified as a Tunisian refugee.

Frau Merkel's stance on Greece aroused indignation for its harshness. But it would be nice to see her as an exemplary figure in her welcome to migrants fleeing Isis and other horrible regimes.

You might expect people to appreciate the freedoms of the West and its hospitality, such as it is . But this happens only rarely. Oftentimes, genuine asylum seekers may be so shocked by the 'decadence' of the West, that they acquire a nostalgic and masochistic hero worship for their old oppressors.

If there are no border checks, it is not possible to stop some Islamist terrorists getting through in the guise of refugees. Isis has claimed responsibility.

This may be an opportunistic claim. They may never even have heard of this young idiot before.

But that wouldn't mean that they don't have responsibility. They might well have indirect responsibility. This guy might well idolise them, and have aspired to follow in the footsteps of former terrorists, based on what he had seen on social media.

A renowned Brexiteer has caused controversy by saying Angela Merkel might as well have been driving the truck herself. That was probably an unhelpful comment, and it's not really accurate. We can see what his ideological position is.

Frau Merkel can't do right for doing wrong. We are now in a situation where any position - except perhaps that of unconditional surrender to Allah - will yield the same result.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:29 pm    Post subject: The straits we're in Reply with quote

Was it the Daily Mail or the Daily Express that reacted to the Christmas Market massacre in Berlin by asking, ''Whatever happened to 'Peace on Earth; Goodwill to all Men'?'' Oddly enough Isis and its splinter groups have never been full of the Christmas spirit.

Did anyone seriously expect them to be? Strict Muslims won't even celebrate Mohammed's birthday because it would be too much like celebrating Christmas.

The war on Christmas by liberal councils may be a myth. But it's fair to assume that radical Islamists are just about as incensed by Christmas as they are by secular republican events such as Bastille Day.

How can we appease them successfully? Perhaps there is only one way.

It is to get out our prayer mats and praise Allah. But, most likely, that wouldn't work either. Most of Isis' victims are other Muslims, after all.

When the USA was barely a nation and had certainly never interfered in the Middle East, it hoped that as a secular state, it would have no quarrel with Muslim countries.

That was the sincere hope of the Founding Fathers. But that was not how it turned out.

In 1815, the US had a little problem called the Straits of Tripoli crisis. Jefferson objected to the attacking of American ships and the enslaving of their passengers in North Africa.

Whatever might have happened in SubSaharan Africa, the USA had done nothing to provoke this. The response came from the responsible autocrat, ''The Koran permits us to do this. Because you are infidels.''

In an internet video, the late Christopher Hitchens recounted what the USA took to be the only possible response to this piece of effrontery. He obviously agreed with it. It is to take on the pitiless fanatics, and grind them into the dust.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My own feelings on this are that violence breeds violence and that The United Kingdom as The Big Black Faction has bred in response to its violence The Little Black Factions all over the place for centuries - indeed it has actively encouraged them when The Democrats in Westminster think that it is to their advantage to arm The Taliban, The Zulus etc in the hope that they will despatch at least some of the more inconvenient of The People in Wales and The World.

Hence nobody who cheered on The UK and The USA should cry out with indignation about retaliations for what was done : it is childish and calling it " terrorism " is besides the point : a lone suicide bomber may kill a few people, injuring and upsetting more but he/she is not a terrorist because they are dead afterwards so there can be no terror ... What we have going on here is The Democrats denying responsibility for their actions : they are not about to admit that they knew that they were gambling with The Lives of The People whilst knowing full well that Westminster is bomb-proof - and therefore they are perfectly safe.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We heard that the young policeman who felled the Russian ambassador to Turkey with a bullet, called out in correct if not very idiomatic English, ''We die in Aleppo. You die here.''

It was a terrible thing to do, yet part of our minds could sympathise, given that Russia is implicated up to the hilt in Syria.


Are you saying that Turkey has no involvement?
Are you saying that Erdogan is NOT God-Emperor of ISIL?
If not, then who is God-Emperor of ISIL? Trump?

Adam insists that Trump is not part of the Elite. Elite has rules against Billionaires joining. GwBush was only allowed to join Elite because he used his billions to bribe the committee.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

But is it not crazy - or czary ?

Putin for me is a proof of that you can not opt into violence and produce a revolution : the most violent win ... in the case of the USSR the disintegration of it was arguably a Monocracy disintegrating into an Aristocracy where Putin and other Oligarchs dismembered and privatised the state conning The People in all of The Places into believing that getting rid of the Communist Monocracy would result in Liberal Democracy ... Instead I reckon that Republicanism predicts that the next stage ought to have been an acknowledgement of the reality - the USSR after Stalin's death became a Communist Aristocracy and that is why it could deliver some unusual economic achievements like their space programme yet fail to address ordinary economic needs : the next step in terms of The Right Hand Path of Dextrous Politics would have been Democratic Communism - but The Aristocrats in Russia have opted to keep the power and not return and distribute it.

So ... on which spoke of The Wheel of The World is Putin riding ? ... I would say that he is recreating Autocracy : he is emphasising his " Russianess " and the idea of being " The Expert " and " The Patriot " and " The Hero " ... Free Speech in Russia is being suppressed again and he is compensating for the economic incompetence of trying to govern a large country with few people by waging wars pitched towards sentimentality at home ... Not scoring as high as a Monocrat like Hitler ( +4 ) I reckon that Putin is more The Fascist Aristocrat like Mussolini ( + 3 ) - what do you think Daf ? ... I reckon that Jeremy Corbyn comes in at ( - 2 ) as The Democratic Socialist since he is still led by Democracy not Socialism in his judgements - knowing that he has to work so hard on the unity of The Labour & Cooperative Party ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:05 am    Post subject: a snowstorm in Hell Reply with quote

I don't think anyone rejoiced much as the Christmas Market assassin was gunned down in Milan. We knew there would be an abundance of clones to take his place.

Several cities were on high alert on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, especially in Australia where they were expecting trouble.

In Germany, the police succumbed to racial profiling and screened African men. They were hoping to avoid a repetition of the scenes at the New Year celebrations in Cologne last year, where European women were molested by those who disapproved of their immodest appearance.

I hadn't personally been aware that IS and other extremist Muslim organisations have it in for the New Year just as much as they do for Christmas. Maybe they disapprove of the earth going round the sun.

I'm afraid there's nothing we can do to prevent that, short of blowing it up. Maybe they will do that for us.

Islamists in Turkey had previously tried to discourage citizens from celebrating the New Year with menaces. So right minded people flocked to night clubs.

They reasoned that if they stayed at home, the terrorists would have won. So a calm smiling psychopath found no shortage of targets in a night club in Istanbul.

I hate to be defeatist but if you stay at home because you're scared, the terrorists will win. And if you manfully put on a brave face and go out clubbing, they're going to blow you up, so they'll win big time.

Even the i paper which reported the tragedy advised people to book holidays in Turkey to show that the terrorists can't win. Taking this advice would be a wilful ignoring of reality.

You might just as well stand on the tarmac on a motorway to show that a lorry can't knock you down. And how much of your money do you want to invest in Erdogan's regime?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am trying to find a place where to stick this where we have been talking about religious ideologies - which have been doing a lot of recently - and since this thread mentions " ... Gnostics on The Mountain " it might do here :

https://thefriend.org/article/thought-for-the-week-sacred-agnosticism

Thought for the Week : Sacred Agnosticis - by Harvey Gillman ( 19-01-17 )

" ... I have always loved debating ideas. I have been seduced by words, by manifestos, and by theologies, while at the same time remaining slightly apart, as if all these were games that help the mind pass the time, rather than sources of some absolute truth. The search for perfect knowledge gives way to the cherishing of the everyday, the ‘quiet processes and small circles’ that Rufus Jones wrote about. ... In some quarters the word ‘agnostic’ is a polite substitute for atheist, as though agnosticism were a rejection of anything beyond the claim of the rational mind, as if reason were the only criterion for trusting the claims of existence. I prefer to use the word in its semantic sense of ‘not knowing’, even of ‘the inability of the human mind to encompass reality’. The limitations of reason become the ground for faith itself. ... "

[ This is a good read - he is a popular speaker if perhaps a less popular author ]

https://universalistfriends.org/library/what-is-spirituality

What is Spirituality ? by Harvey Gillman

" ... For many other people the word spirituality refers spookily to spirits, things that go through walls, shadowy creatures found in many a children’s film or even horror movie. For others it overlaps with spiritualism and is about getting in contact with the spirits of the dead. And then there is the open-ended use of the word referring to anything which gives you a glow. A whole book called Selling Spirituality has been written on how the word has been used in an effort to give spurious psychological depth to the capitalist enterprise. It notes how in a world of individual-istic consumerism, the word spirituality confers a new selling advantage. In a market devoted to personal enhancement and personal well-being, it actually helps selling things. The authors of the book declare that spiritual is the new mystical, with the advantage that spiritual can be used without any reference to the divine. ... "

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Consider-Blackbird-Harvey-Gillman/dp/0901689580

" From a lifetime of seeking, Harvey Gillman explores a way to respond to what remains, in spite of everything, a very beautiful and sacred universe. This is a journey through language, using poetry, philosophy, and insights from different religions, graced with the song of a blackbird, who accompanied the author as he wrote the work. Pandemics, civil wars, religious extremism, spilling of blood in the name of sacred and secular causes, destruction of our environment... Why write a book on spirituality and language? Don't we need calls to action, positive plans to change the world? But the way we speak, the way we search for meaning, the way we declare our truths - these are often at the root of such political and spiritual 'dis-ease'. The driving force behind this book is how we can use difference compassionately and with integrity."
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:32 pm    Post subject: assad Reply with quote

Our attitude to Assad has often been that he is an unsavoury character, but we must make common cause with him. As bad as he is anyone is better than Isis.

We'll need a very long spoon to sup with Assad. We have now heard that he has executed up to 13,000 people in a prison in Damascus. Although it is a state run prison, these are extra judicial hangings.

There are no trials, no legal representation, no nothing. The cells are cleared out by these means on two days each week. The bodies are buried in mass graves nearby.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:33 pm    Post subject: mosul Reply with quote

Iraqi forces are already in Mosul. But Isis holds out in the west of the city.

A few Oxfam workers are in the eastern part. As the battle continues to overcome Isis, civilian observers say the humanitarian situation is pretty dire.

People are even crossing battlefields under line of fire to escape from Isis. The western media has worried about how many children are in Mosul and in danger.

No doubt this is an awful thing for children to be caught up in. But it's been no better for the children of Mosul for the last two years.

Isis has prevented children from attending school. It has executed them. It has raided an orphanage in the city for kids to train as child soldiers. Can it really get much worse?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:25 pm    Post subject: dim ysmugu Reply with quote

No it can't get much worse. On 5 February Islamic State crucified at least two young men in Mosul for smoking. I don't mean they gave them a long and tiresome lecture on the harm they were doing to their lungs, something we've all heard a thousand times before.

I mean they literally crucified them. Why? Tobacco comes from America. What are the chances Mohammed ever heard of it? Pretty slim you would think, even if tobacco has been found inside the bandages of mummified corpses in Egyptian pyramids.

Is it that it is seen as an intoxicant on the model of alcohol? Not at all. Don't Allah's soldiers chew qat all the time?

No, Allah's morality police have taken on board the message that smoking kills. So they see smoking as a variant of suicide which is verboten - unless of course you are a suicide bomber taking between one and 3,000 infidels with you.

Never mind the weird logic of killing people for not taking enough care of their health. Isis has given itself scope to add to the roster of criminal or capital offences things Mohammed didn't think of but should have.

They include kissing someone to whom you are not married and also flirting. But they do not include raping captured sex slaves.

I wouldn't have thought Anjem Choudary would approve of this development. He claimed to be tolerant of things that are not specifically prohibited in the Koran or Hadith.

I have seen a site today which may well not be reliable. It said Mohammed enjoyed sucking children's lips and tongues. I have heard of that before, but this is the first time that I heard he kissed a little boy's penis or invited children to watch as he washed his private parts.

I think it may not be true as I have not heard it from other anti-Mohammed sources. We've all heard about Aisha of course. If it is all true, it looks as if Mohammed would have been crucified in Islamic State. At least he'd have one thing in common with Jesus.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2RNe9TG3Cw

Voltaire on Religion ( Philosophical Dictionary / French Enlightenment )

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:00 pm    Post subject: unto this last Reply with quote

Over the last month, a Sufi mystic has been hacked to death by Sunnis, Sunnis have been blown up in a bomb blast in a mosque by Shiite rebels, and nine people including children have been burnt to death for attempting to flee what is left of Islamic State.

30 people have been massacred in a court in Damascus. One of the blessings Al Shabaab has brought to Somalia and the rest of East Africa is famine. Newspapers again show babies with big heads and shrunken withered bodies, screaming in anquish.

But all was quiet on the home front. Today our class in Newport had a visit from Assembly members, we had some role play based on Senate activities and we have also been invited to the Senate to watch it in action.

That sounds like fun. Of course the Breton school kids on an exchange trip were probably quite excited when they were invited to see how the Westminster parliament operates today.

But somebody ploughed into them on Westminster Bridge using a car as a weapon. At least two of the kids are among the twenty people who have been injured, some critically. We don't know if they will live.

Two people were killed outright. We don't know who they are yet. This vogue for using a vehicle as a weapon would have been familiar to them in France. It is of course associated with Islamic terrorism.

It hasn't been confirmed yet that it was an Islamist attack, but Isis is said to be celebrating. I thought Tommy Robinson who founded the Englsih Defence League had seen the error of his ways. He has been sounding reasonable on Sunday morning TV shows. But now he's reverted to type, telling his followers online that this is what happens when you let immigrants into the country.

The assailant was resourceful. After crashing his car into railings, he jumped out and stabbed a policeman to death.

As he was shot dead by another policeman immediately afterwards, he can't answer questions.

My son Tal conflated religion with race, saying that halal meat was 'for people with brown faces.' Of course people with any kind of faces can be Muslims.

The now dead malefactor was described as brown. This makes it somewhat more likely statistically that he was an Islamist, buut we don't really know yet.

Perhaps we will find out that his grudge was about Brexit. He may have delayed it going through.

Parlaiment was sitting. The MPs were advised to duck and cover as it were. Then they were told the session would be suspended.

Amber Rudd later made a speech about British values that could not be eradicated. One that she mentioned was tolerance.

I think she is wrong. We are already suffering a tolerance shortage.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:42 pm    Post subject: sa Reply with quote

I'm happy to say that relatives of 9/11 victims will now be seeking compensation from Saudi Arabia. We were never going to invade the country, as our governments think they have to brown nose these medieval style potentates because of their oil wealth.

But the plot wouldn't have got off the ground without the assistance of Saudi Arabia. Highly placed individuals in the kingdom had foreknowledge, and approved of the attacks.

Remember it wasn't just the twin towers, as bad as that was. A plane also crashed into the Pentagon. A third plane came down in Pennsylvania. From phone messages, it appears that the brave passengers overpowered the terrorists and wrested the controls from them. But none of them could fly the plane, and it crashed, killing all on board.

It is believed that the intention was to fly it into the Senate. It's just as well it didn't come off. The roof is made of material that would have melted and killed everyone underneath in a horrific way.

It's not possible to visualise what the world would be like now if the US with or without the UK had declared war on Saudi Arabia instead of invading Iraq and Afghanistan.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:41 pm    Post subject: andreea Reply with quote

Andreea Cristea from Romania was in London to celebrate her boyfriend's birthday. He planned to propose to her on the day of the attack at Westminster.

Instead they were caught up in the melee. She did not jump into the Thames from Westminster Bridge to escape the attack as I previously thought.

She was hit by the car and thrown into the Thames. She was pulled out alive. I'm sorry to say she has now died of her injuries.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:50 pm    Post subject: stockholm giggle syndrome Reply with quote

We had a bit of a giggle when Donald Trump alluded to the terrible terrorist attack in Sweden as there had been no such attack. Sweden had been at peace for 200 years.

The only terrorist attack we could think of was in 2010, and that was not successful. But now someone has used a beer lorry as a weapon in Stockholm, ploughing into shoppers and killing at least three or maybe four of them, and injuring many more.

Now Trump is crowing that he was right all the time.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:54 pm    Post subject: the pit of blood Reply with quote

Isis has killed 33 young men aged between 18 and 25 execution style with sharp tools near a hole full of blood. It is their worst mass killing yet this year.

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