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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:28 pm    Post subject: Twm Sion Cati : Rebel or Revolutionary ? Reply with quote

In Eric Hobsbawn's book " Bandits " he draws out the point that the social circumstances which result in crime also result in criminals who have a passion for social justice ... Robin Hood may be mythical but robbing the rich to feed the poor as a form of tax adjustment for redistribution is no myth but a commonly described practice sanctioned by Democracy wherever that is considered to be legitimate ... Twm Sion Cati is not as mythical as Robin Hood ... Twm Sion Cati is generally agreed to be a real person living at the time of the great political turbulence caused by Henry VIII's Annexation of Wales which created a legal limbo for ninety years in which Wales was still in theory a separate realm in which Henry VIII and his successors plundered at will driving the populace into savage poverty ... The reason why Henry VIII created MPs in Wales and sent them to sit in Westminster was because they were all dependent upon his favour not to plunder them and so in order to maintain that favour the Welsh MPs were compelled to vote for whatever the king demanded of them in Parliament where they were viewed as enemies and interlopers by the English MPs ... Thus the Wales which produced Twm Sion Cati was also producing many other bandits at the same time because the medieval welfare state i.e. The Catholic Church in Wales which had looked after the poverty stricken - the unemployed, widowed, orphans, sick, elderly - was being plundered by The Monocracy which carried off sheep, cattle, horses, timber, lead from roofs, liturgical plate, libraries etc leaving churches, friaries and monasteries in ruins - and the population destitute.

I was browsing Youtube when I decided to start this thread ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCU3CBe2gPo - Twm Sion Cati Cave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w68MEvBj7uk - Twm Sion Cati "Polishing the Welsh Stone" part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHx9E5A-tK4 - Twm Sion Cati "Polishing the Welsh Stone" part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DHLitRKzoo - Twm Sion Cati - Legends of Wales

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBeh8VI09uY - Twm Sion Cati Walk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcWsTq-g9Rk - Twm Sion Cati sydd yn priodi Leri - Twm Sion Cati [ SONG ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY1O4jLKsbA - Ai hon yw y freuddwyd? - Twm Sion Cati [ SONG ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrQtrz6kVbI - Mrs Cati'n Rappio - Twm Sion Cati [ RAP ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYUJUIyaJDY - Talbot - Twm Sion Cati [ DANCE + SONG ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfokdMzUtvE - [ WE HAVE LOTS OF THESE CULTURAL ARTIFAX ]
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twm_Si%C3%B4n_Cati

Twm Siôn Cati (also sometimes spelt Twm Sion Cati, Twm Shon Catti, Twm Shon Catty, and so on) is a figure in Welsh folklore, often described as the Welsh Wizard. ... An international Twm Siôn Cati Day is held each year on 17th May.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twm_Si%C3%B4n_Cati#Background

" Tales about him vary on details, but he is usually said to have been born in or very near to Tregaron, in or around 1530, his mother being one Cati Jones of Tregaron. His father was supposed to be Siôn ap Dafydd ap Madog ap Hywel Moetheu of Porth-y-ffin, also near Tregaron. He was an illegitimate son whom his mother named Thomas. The Welsh-language equivalent of Tom is Twm. It was also common practice in rural Wales, traditionally a matriarchal society, for children with common names to be nicknamed after their mothers. Thus he became known as Twm Siôn Cati. ... He was supposedly a Protestant by faith at a time when Mary I of England, a Catholic monarch, ruled and he had to gain an income as best he could, choosing robbery as his trade as his religion had him marked out as a rebel already and his high status meant that he could rely on any advantage or protection from others. As a young man he fled to Geneva in 1557 to escape the law. After the accession of the Protestant Queen Elizabeth I, he was able to obtain a pardon for his thievery, enabling his return to Wales in 1559. ...

[ IN OTHER WORDS 19c NON-CONFORMIST PROTESTANTS PROBABLY ADOPTED AND ADAPTED TWM SION CATI FOR VARIOUS PURPOSES.]

... The original character is often said to have been based on one Thomas Jones (c. 1530–1609) who, according to the Oxford Companion to the Literature of Wales, was pardoned for unspecified offences in 1559, wrote poetry, was a steward who "often had recourse to the law", and married the widow of Thomas Rhys Williams of Ystrad-ffin. It seems unlikely, however, that all the tales told of Twm Siôn Cati in later times can be attributed to this one man. The Oxford Companion further asserts "he has been confused with others of the same name who were raiders and highwaymen in the district of Tregaron" and lists another eleven Thomas Joneses in the field of literature alone. ... Although the original tales were passed on orally, there were later a number of written stories of Twm Siôn Cati. An English-language pamphlet, Tomshone Catty's Tricks, was printed in 1763. William Frederick Deacon wrote two books involving him in the 1820s. In 1828, T J Llewelyn Pritchard's The Adventures and Vagaries of Twm Shon Catti, descriptive of Life in Wales was published. Enlarged (and somewhat altered) editions of this followed. An eight-page pamphlet, Y Digrifwr, was published in 1844, its subtitle admirably describing its contents ("The jokester: a collection of feats and tricks of Thomas Jones of Tregaron, Cardiganshire, he who is generally known under the name Twm Sion Catti"). George Borrow, walking through Wild Wales in 1854, heard several tales about Twm from a fellow-walker on the way to Tregaron and later read what was probably Pritchard's book.

[ AN AMOUNT OF FURTHER EXPLANATION - WORTH READING ]

The television series Hawkmoor created by Lynn Hughes and starring John Ogwen as Twm and Jane Asher as Lady Johane Williams was broadcast by the BBC in 1978, depicting Twm as a Welsh Robin Hood/freedom fighter protecting the Welsh people from the repression of English-born Sheriff John Stedman (Jack May) and the cruel (Catholic) Vicar Davyd (Philip Madoc). A Penguin paperback relating some of the television adventures (and containing a poem actually written by Twm) was written by Lynn Hughes and published in 1978.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbLPshbbkDE - twm sion cati version 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlvHLl4K0xQ - Twm Sion Catti Blues - Greg Fisher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJsmg9Vx968 - Edward Twm Sion Cati

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v33kzAf0oDk - Catrin Twm Sion CATI

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