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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39935549

Severn tolls: Conservative election pledge to scrap charges

[ ABOUT TIME : FIFTY YEARS OVERDUE - I BET THE BRIDGE COLLAPSES AS SOON AS THEY STOP TAKING TOLLS AND THEY GIVE SOMEBODY THE HUGE AMOUNT OF CASH TO BUILD ANOTHER AND ... CHARGE ANOTHER TOLL ... BUT THERE IS A DOWNSIDE TO THIS : CHEPSTOW, CALDICOT, UNDY, MAGOR ETC WILL EXPERIENCE ROCKETING PROPERTY PRICES AS COMMUTERS TO BRISTOL USE THEIR TOLL MONEY TO BUY HOUSES INSTEAD ... NOW IS THE TIME TO BUY A HOUSE IN UNDY ... ]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-39924154

[ ALL OF THE PEERS IN WALES SHOULD BE GOT RID OF : THEY BELONG TO A BYGONE AGE AND ARE ALL POTENTIALLY ROTTEN AND DANGEROUS.]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-39895438

[ WELL I COULD CERTAINLY NAME A FEW SCORE OF DEAF DEMOCRATS WHO HAVE BEEN UNDERACHIEVING AT THE KEY STAGES FOR DECADES.]

Oh - yeah ... well you all know that I live in Tyger Bay and like to daydream about Pirate Republics ...

https://www.pirateparty.org.uk

https://www.pirateparty.org.uk/policy - NOTE THEIR " SEVEN PRINCIPLES "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party_UK#Pirate_Party_Wales

https://www.facebook.com/piratepartyuk/

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From: David B Lawrence
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Subject: THE PIRATE PARTY : mostly looks good - but did you ever consider that what you are expressing is akin to Philip Pettit's Republicanism ?

Dear Pirate Party,

mostly looks good - but did you ever consider that what you are expressing is akin to Philip Pettit's Republicanism ?

https://www.scribd.com/document/333218615/Philip-Pettit-Republicanism-A-Theory-of-Freedom-and-Government-pdf

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Republicanism-Theory-Freedom-Government-Political/dp/0198296428

I like piratical republics - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1380

Keep this wind in your sails and you may go far !

David B. Lawrence,
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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. . . here it is.

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As promised....

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijacked-democracy

The Observer

The great British Brexit robbery: how our democracy was hijacked

A shadowy global operation involving big data, billionaire friends of Trump and the disparate forces of the Leave campaign influenced the result of the EU referendum. As Britain heads to the polls again, is our electoral process still fit for purpose?

by Carole Cadwalladr

" ... “It’s not MI6’s job to warn of internal threats. It was a very strange speech. Was it one branch of the intelligence services sending a shot across the bows of another? Or was it pointed at Theresa May’s government? Does she know something she’s not telling us?” - Senior intelligence analyst, April 2017 ...

... London in 2013 was still basking in the afterglow of the Olympics. Britain had not yet Brexited. The world had not yet turned. ... “That was before we became this dark, dystopian data company that gave the world Trump,” a former Cambridge Analytica employee who I’ll call Paul tells me. “It was back when we were still just a psychological warfare firm.” ... "Was that really what you called it," I ask him. "Psychological warfare?" “Totally. That’s what it is. Psyops. Psychological operations – the same methods the military use to effect mass sentiment change. It’s what they mean by winning ‘hearts and minds’. We were just doing it to win elections in the kind of developing countries that don’t have many rules.” ...

[ THERE IS A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS ARTICLE BUT I CAN NOT TAKE IT ALL - GO READ IT ]

... what’s clear is that the power and dominance of the Silicon Valley – Google and Facebook and a small handful of others – are at the centre of the global tectonic shift we are currently witnessing. ... It also reveals a critical and gaping hole in the political debate in Britain. Because what is happening in America and what is happening in Britain are entwined. Brexit and Trump are entwined. ... There are three strands to this story. How the foundations of an authoritarian surveillance state are being laid in the US. How British democracy was subverted through a covert, far-reaching plan of coordination enabled by a US billionaire. And how we are in the midst of a massive land grab for power by billionaires via our data. Data which is being silently amassed, harvested and stored. Whoever owns this data owns the future. ...

LET US LEAVE IT THERE : ONE OF THE THINGS WHICH REPUBLICANISM WRESTLES WITH IS THAT THE STATE HAS TO BE GOVERNED BY THE NOMOCRATS ( I.E. THE SUPREME COURT, THE JUDICIARY ) BUT WHILST THEY MUST HAVE THE POWER TO STRIKE DOWN THE LAWS PROPOSED BY ULTRAISTS ( HIEROCRATS, DEMOCRATS, ARISTOCRATS, MONOCRATS TRYING TO USE THE STATE AS A MEANS TO PURSUE THEIR PRIVATE INTERESTS ) IT IS DISASTROUS FOR THE NOMOCRATS TO BOTH GOVERN THE STATE AND HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE LAWS : THEY CAN DETERMINE WHETHER NEW LAWS CONFORM WITH THE EXISTING LAWS AND WHILST THE MOST IMPORTANT OF THOSE LAWS ARE THE CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS COMMONLY KNOWN AS " HUMAN RIGHTS " THERE ARE OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS WHICH DETERMINE WHETHER THE EXERCISE OF POWER WITHIN THE STATE IS LEGITIMATE - COMMONLY KNOWN AS " THE DIVISION OF POWERS." WHEN SUCH POWER IS EXERCISED FROM OUTSIDE OF THE STATE - FROM " BEYOND THE BOUNDARY " - IN VARIOUS BIDS TO GOVERN THE STATE IN FAVOUR OF PRIVATE INTERESTS ( I.E. TO OBTAIN POWER OVER THE STATE WHILST EVADING " THE RULE OF LAW " AND THUS NOT BEING ACCOUNTABLE TO THE SUPREME COURT AND " THE PUBLIC INTEREST " AS DETERMINED BY THE NOMOCRACY ) THAT IS " ULTRAISM " WHICH WE MUST BE CONSTANTLY VIGILANT AGAINST IN THE STRUGGLES AGAINST THOSE WHO SEEK TO SUBVERT THE STATE I.E. THE HIEROCRATS, DEMOCRATS, ARISTOCRATS AND MONOCRATS WHO PERVERT THE CHARITABLE PURPOSES OF THE STATE WHICH ARE THOSE OF " ALTRUISM " I.E. " OTHERISM " - REPUBLICANS CREATE AND SHAPE THE STATE FOR THE PURPOSES OF SERVING OTHERS - NOT THEMSELVES.


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PHEW - OOPS - sorry - phew ... how about we end it with a song tonight ? ...

... [ is it still 1974 ? ] ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xo9v-vvHe8

" Coats Off For Britain " by Roy Bailey & Leon Rosselson

... [ it is still 1974 ! ] ...
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... The Sleepless Knight ... I thought that I might compare them : is Robyn's end Nye ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYSvt-9wgZ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK2Qdrl7CFk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyLLUgsqHys - demonstrates Nye's dishonesty

( Note is the reason why Nye resigned over prescription fees - the money was used for weapons to harm not heal : note also the speech about Suez.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc0dS8xnrGg - much better than Nye !

Ha - the light at the end of the tunnel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN2ZGSX0cIE

Jeremy Corbyn can hardly be considered to even be a Socialist let alone from " The Far Left."
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5360#5360
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A pity that more people are not looking at this thread - 268 so far ? - but for those who are reading this my frustration with the dysfunctionality of The UK's " Demockery " grew into a disenchantment with Demockery itself influenced by the earlier forms of " Pure Republicanisms " and eventually I found their arguments so compelling that I rejected Democracy as not merely potentially corruptable but inevitably corrupting of politics. Almost simultaneously The Electoral Registration and Administration Act 2013 was passed which replaced getting votes as the basis of the so called Democratic Mandate with stealing names and subscribing them to a substitute basis - The Electoral Register i.e. The Demockerats decided that the disaffection of The People in Wales was to be remedied by ignoring it and replacing them with lists of their names culled from various data bases : they are supplying their own mandate and therefore no longer have to obtain The Consent of The People. Furthermore anybody who protests against their name being stolen and subscribed to this fake " Democratic Mandate " is liable to be prosecuted and fined £1000 or face imprisonment.

It is more or less what happened in The USSR - and we had already witnessed the telephone book trials of thousands of The People in Wales who were summarily convicted and fined simply by reading out their names in courtrooms - so I strongly objected to this and as soon as the legislation was brought in I instructed the local Electoral Registration Officers to remove my name from The Electoral Register and I have never consented to it being there since ... but of course they keep publishing my name as a subscriber to it and therefore as a person who consents to The United Kingdom - which I do not : it is nothing but a heap of contradictions scrawled across several centuries of poorly considered paper work ... To be opposed to this state of affairs does not make me into a terrorist - but to use the powers contained in The Electoral Registration and Administration Act 2013 is to practice terrorism : it primarily systematically spreads fear and identifies as criminals those who merely hold a different opinion. ...

... Yet the reality is that millions are not prosecuted for being unregistered because of their not appearing upon any data base : so is the real aim of The Electoral Registration and Administration Act 2013 actually surveillance ? ... Anyhow the other night I added to the thread on this matter -

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5369#5369
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... Oh well - what are the odds ?

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/most-seats

Conservative & Unionist Party - 1/26 ?

Labour & Cooperative Party - 12/1 ?

... What about the polls ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_general_election,_2017

Conservative & Unionist Party - 44%-46% ? ( 40%-42% in Wales ? )

Labour & Cooperative Party - 33%-35% ? ( 33%-35% in Wales ? )

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Nobody else can hope to form a government - but what if there were coalitions of Right V Left ?

" The Right " - 57% ? ( 52% in Wales ? )

" The Left " - 43% ? ( 48% in Wales ? )

Unfortunately this has become an election dominated by " personalities " due to The Hierarchy being uninterested in analysing the manifestos ... but there is a high degree of antipathy towards this amongst 25% or so of the voters ... interesting ... Voter turnout at UK General Elections has fallen from 84% in 1950 - which can be argued to be a Democratic Mandate based on voting - to 59% in 2001 - which can not - 61% in 2005 - 65% in 2010 - 66% in 2015 - which is just on the threshold of possibly being one ... In other words : for basically twenty years The United Kingdom - whether governed by The Left or The Right - has not been able to obtain The Consent of The People in Wales, England, Scotland and Northern Ireland ... their non-political system is morally and ethically and financially bankrupt but The Democrats do not want to admit this : they do not want their ardent fantasies to be confronted by either arguments or facts ... so they have ripped up The Social Contract ...

... What I am thinking about here is " Pendulum Politics " as The UK non-political system begins to be buffeted from side to side in wilder and wilder swings as its elected dictators each come into power undoing each other's legislations and policies resulting in an unstable society in which invedtments, pensions, wages, savings and benefits all become insecure and The People drive it to further extremes as they start to cast their votes in a panicky way. Proportional Representation enforcing coalitions and bargaining might be a remedy but ultimately getting rid of Democracy and creating a properly political system which is based on methods of collecting facts and arguments iwill always better - The United Republic instead of The Disunited Kingdom.
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

" MUM !!! - DAD !!! - NO ! - NO ! - NO !!! - I do not want to be ELECTED !!! "_" But we have now arranged it so - and you have been SELECTED !!! "_" All we want is for you to do well -_And if you also do good then that will be swell ... "_" But MY politics are Pure Republican - YES : I HAVE DEFECTED !!! "

" MUM !!! - DAD !!! - NO ! - NO ! - NO !!! - I do not want to be ELECTED !!! "_
" But we have now arranged it so - and you have been SELECTED !!! "_
" All we want is for you to do well -_
And if you also do good then that will be swell ... "_
" But MY politics are Pure Republican - YES : I HAVE DEFECTED !!! "

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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to bed last night having heard the bare facts of this -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-40010124

- and have been ill with flu dozing listening to various news bulletins and commentaries about this which expose to my inner eye something perversely over-excited by The Hierarchy ... but I can not put my finger on it yet : my initial reaction is usually one of yes - so ? - why be surprised ? - The Demockerats have been out again recently killing hundreds of thousands and claiming that you endorse this - over the centuries they have killed hundreds of millions - and you still think that this is something acceptable ? - Then why not accept this with equal enthusiasm ? - But if you do not like it happening to us then reconsider who " we " are - " we " are The People in The World and not divisible in the way that Ultraists like The Hierocrats, Democrats, Aristocrats and Monocrats divide us in order to exploit our differences - deceiving in order to set us upon each other such that killing The People in The World is fine and noble but that killing The People in Manchester is debased and evil : it is the same thing - so why not say " no " to both ?

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There is something very excitable - and rehearsed ? - about The Hierarchy in reporting this .... In contrast Jeremy looks the part - Theresa does not - in making pronouncements ... I tell you : there is something really weird about the way in which these journalists are talking - they are even making Donald Trump's comments sound reasonable ...
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[ THIS SEEMS TO ME TO BE ADDRESSED TO YOU #### ] Compulsively I feel like jesting_But of course I might be testing_The patiences of all my friends_In the idle pursuit of these comic ends_Whilst as an activist - I am now resting.

Compulsively I feel like jesting_
But of course I might be testing_
The patiences of all my friends_
In the idle pursuit of these comic ends_
Whilst as an activist - I am now resting.

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right not to sue for copyright ?

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Text conversation [ PWNCO ]

Actors rest, not activists! Unless The Struggle naught avails, and with the Polis on their tails they disappear into Scotch mists to be reborn as 'passivists' ;-)


Ouch. Surprised = May I insert your reply on the general election thread after my proem ? -
http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5384#5384

T'was just a bit of fun tha knows because as far as 'action' goes some never worry on that score quite sure that doing less means more!
= Yes of course! Please use my nom- de-plume 'Doormouse' with that spelling ;-)

Two really nice poems - I would like to add them but respect author"s right etc [ Y ] said that her tag is now " Ariadne " - anyway : how are you ? Dourmousse ?

Fine ta - just 'Doormouse' will do! Goodnight Smile

Damn. Desperately trying to do something edibly clever with that - sorry : apologies for playing with your tag - would you like to know the Welsh ? - " Pathew "

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The People in Wales are most often deranged_By those poets who have their proprieties changed :_They demand that The Truth is always spoken in prose -_And that in all things called " poems " a " rose " rhymes with " nose " -_Whilst these too-clever [ two-clover? ] bard-sters ( like me ) should be hanged

The People in Wales are most often deranged_
By those poets who have their proprieties changed :_
They demand that The Truth is always spoken in prose -_
And that in all things called " poems " a " rose " rhymes with " nose " -_
Whilst these two-clover bard-sters ( like me ) should be hanged.

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !

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" Are you really a poet or even Welsh - dai ? "_Well ... you must judge for yourself - for I do not try :_I am but myself ( as so are you ) _Most know less about me because my spoken words are few_But what I have for forty years written is why I cry."

" Are you really a poet or even Welsh - dai ? "_
Well ... you must judge for yourself - for I do not try :_
I am but myself ( as so are you )_
Most know less about me because my spoken words are few_
Most know rather less because my words are few_
But what I have for forty years written is why I cry."
But what I have written for forty years is why I cry."

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to due for copyright !

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" dai : your ' proems ' are not patriotic :_They do not scan - and they're idiotic ... _Whimsicality is your trade -_Leaving your meanings all unmade :_Tilting The Windmill like The Don Chaotic."

" dai : your ' proems ' are not patriotic :_
They do not scan - and they're idiotic ... _
Whimsicality is your trade -_
Leaving your meanings all unmade :_
Tilting The Windmill like The Don Chaotic."

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !


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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[ FIX THESE THEN DAF ] When asked to name their Democrats_The People in Wales all call them rats,_Snakes in the grass and bear-faced liars,_Jac-y-dos fighting imaginary fires :_Conniving dogs and too-hip cats = The Democrats have legislated_That by no-one they'll be hated_The People are in jail already_But to keep them quiet there is a steady_Threat - lest they protest : their punishments have all been fated. = The Law of The Nomos is that each and every Faction_(When) acting upon the others produces (a) their strong reaction_(thus) Cancelling out everything which they might achieve_This is (clearly) not political - this (causes all to grieve) is merely grief -_The remedy is Republican : (our) co-ordinated action = The Rule of Law in Republican eyes_Can neither be enforced by spies_Nor by mucking with phones and laptops_Or by entrapment with expensive trollops -_Still less with stolen goods and lies ...
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See - even The BBC are tentatively trying out the Republican plan for Operationalisationism -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1VL0sHGD2CBp5Hts39GFVD9/5-ways-to-win-at-dating-using-maths?intc_type=singletheme&intc_location=radio4&intc_campaign=livelyideastrading&intc_linkname=article_mathsdating_contentcard1

- It is no good however : I will finally have to declare myself well enough to get out of bed and think properly because I have stopped coughing and sneezing amongst other things ...
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see from the news that The People in Manchester are bewildered as to why anybody should deliberately target a non-military target and deliberately kill not only civilians but children ... The Hierarchy across the media have been exposed as not having ready explanations for this event - and they definitely do not want to mention the obvious ones - and what they are coming up with is the sort of outrage expressed in World War One about Zeppelin raids or in World War Two about how bad The Blitz was as if The Plucky Little British Empire never bombed anyone - ever.

So The People in Wales do not want to be bombed ?

Just in case it helps - may I recommend that we do not bomb The People in places that are not Wales ... ? ...

https://www.peacenews.info/node/3426/campaign-against-military-drones

http://www.wuase.com

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/06/welsh-airfield-drones

https://www.sruav.co.uk/home

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/multi-million-pound-drone-crash-11753329

http://www.flyuav.co.uk

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjgf1Vx1zYk -
"Killing People is KILLING PEOPLE", DRONE FLIGHTS create NOISE POLLUTION in Wales town


Perhaps you might think of it this way : what if the reason as to why this murderer killed these children in Manchester turned out to be because as a foreigner he had mistaken The Drones in Wales for being in England ?

What if The People in England decide that The People in Wales are responsible for tolerating mass murder being conducted from Welsh soil by renting it out to foreign mercenaries who killed The People in The World for whom this person revengefully killed The Kids in Manchester ?

Is there no argument to be made out to oppose such evils ?
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another Slurpless Knight - as I just joked in mentioning this -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0531xq7

- which reminds me of why human beings like to associate with each other : in order " to be kind " i.e. in expression of the recognition that we are all of a similar kind - humankind - hence charity is the proper basis of The State as a human association not militarism. " The Defence of The Realm " is meaningless if The State has been created solely as a means to control " its territory " against those it construes to be enemies - " its ? " - " territory ? " - " enemies ? " - The State is merely a mechanism not a person - laws are made to secure human relationships not property - The Nomos is an enemy to none although many declare themselves to be the enemies of Des Res Publica in their perversion of The Rule of Law in favour of their private interests ... It is private interest substituted for The Public Interest which claims that it has the right to wage pre-emptive wars against those enemies which are refusing to sell them the means to pursue their private interests ... oil, diamonds, bananas, soap, camels, photo-opportunities ...

... Election-wise - Theresa May must be cock-a-hoop with this suicide bomber because they have decided to put soldiers on the streets in order to free up the police to go loom for terrorists - hell : we were only just burgled - next door - just over a week ago ... I would take a holiday to avoid the 2017 UK General Election but if I try to go to Eire I will end up being taken aside and asked stupid questions ... This business in Manchester has probably swung the election for The Conservative & Unionist Party but I do not think that The Freemasons are behind this ... I bet that it was The Rotary Club - just could not be The Women's Institute ... surely ? ...

... 03.40 am ? ... OK : coffee ? ... work ? ... Leisure - worth a listen circa 10.00+

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DdB4DzKTyb0 - Enlightenment (Part I)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cMdN22juFGU - Enlightenment (Part 2)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oV9ug4Wrn30 - Enlightenment - The Prequel - Special Affects - Romance !
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Searching for an article on-line from New Republic - the sort of high-standard intelligent journalism that I would like to see on Y Repwblic ... the only trouble is that it is American and that " Republican V Democrat " labeling goes the other way around in The USA which results in New Republic supporting " The Democrats " and their right-wing opponents " The Republicans " displaying red and wanting to get rid of their Constitution ... So let us get this business straight for The People in Wales - The Democrats in Wales claim that we have The Rule of Law ( we do not - we do not even have The Court in Wales ) and a Constitutional Monarchy ( we do not - we have neither a Constitution nor a Monarchy - The UK is an Unconstitutional Aristocracy ) - our politicians and their supporters claim that we have Democratic Parliamentary Sovereignty ( we do not - we have Voting to elect some representatives in The House of Commons but the majority of legislators are appointed to The House of Lords by The Prime Minister who wields the Sovereignty on behalf of The Crown which is merely a post office box address for the off-shore owners of The People in Wales and The World through the mechanism of debt slavery upon whose profits they never pay a penny and ... ) ... Anyway - here is the forthcoming cover and you can usually get to read a few articles for free here - you can subscribe to an email about these articles ...

https://newrepublic.com/magazine



https://newrepublic.com/article/141709/not-fight-terrorism-trump-exploiting-fear

How Not to Fight Terrorism

Instead of correcting Obama's missteps, Trump is exploiting the public's worst fears.

By Heather Hurlburt - April 12, 2017

" The Trump administration thinks it knows all it needs to about what motivates extremist violence. Michael Flynn, the president’s former national security adviser, considers it “nonsense” even to try to figure out the root causes of terrorism. John Kelly, the secretary of homeland security, describes America’s opponents as “driven irrationally to our destruction”—even though scholars have documented that the Islamic State, Al Qaeda, and other extremist movements work quite rationally toward their goals: controlling territory, establishing ideological dominance, and defeating their political enemies. ... ... ...

... While human rights groups have been the most vocal in criticizing Obama’s escalation of drone strikes and Special Forces operations, senior military and intelligence officials have also quietly raised concerns. They point out that years of so-called direct action have been good for tactical wins but have not defeated a single extremist group, while strikes and perceived violations of sovereignty have spurred resentment against the United States. “It is possible that the political cost of these attacks exceeds the tactical gains,” argues retired Lt. Col. David Kilcullen, a highly regarded collaborator of Gen. David Petraeus. In fact, as Trump considers rolling back the Obama-era standards that govern such operations, even four-star generals are calling for significantly more oversight and transparency—including negotiating global rules for targeted killings. ...

... Since the rise of ISIS, Americans have been swimming in a media ocean of overheated rhetoric about terror threats. Conservative commentators used terrorism as a proof point for arguments about racial and religious insecurity during the Obama years. Obama himself—who frequently reminded his staff that more Americans die each year from handguns, from car accidents, or from falls in the bathtub than from terrorism—attempted to emphasize the limited nature of the threat by limiting its place in his rhetoric. As the election underscored, however, not talking about terrorism is not an effective way to deal with terrorism. ... The Trump administration, by contrast, actively seeks to fuel public fears rather than allay them. The textbook definition of terrorism, after all, is that it heightens fear among civilians at home. Among all of Obama’s missteps, his failure to acknowledge that fear, however irrational, and to counter it effectively, may be the one that haunts us the longest. ... "

[ AN INTERESTING ARTICLE : GO READ IT ]

https://newrepublic.com/article/142599/spy-neighbors

Why You Spy on Your Neighbors

Joshua Reeves’s “Citizen Spies” looks at citizens, surveillance, and how the police state conscripts us all.

By Ava Kofman May 10, 2017

[ THE ARTICLE IS DISCUSSING THIS BOOK - ]

https://nyupress.org/books/9781479803927/

Citizen Spies : The Long Rise of America's Surveillance Society - By Joshua Reeves - 256 pages - March, 2017 - ISBN: 9781479803927
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This probably does not belong here but - just to give you a glimpse into the main activity of the SIS, MI5, SB etc - it being a general election my second rather elderly smart or rather dumb phone is claiming that 2/3 of its RAM is available for my use yet in fact it can barely register a key stroke ... It also claims that 1/3 of the memory is available but I could not download a simple app ... I have of course been approached recently and offered obviously stolen cigarettes and last time it was a bottle of whiskey with its security cap still on it ... So let me set the United Kingdom's Secretive Services straight once more again : being opposed to voting is like being opposed to eating meat - the analogy between being a Republican and a Vegan is in fact quite a good one e.g. ...

... A Republican Democrat is a like a Vegetarian in being prepared to accept a little bit of voting in order to elect representatives who will thereafter conduct politics upon the proper basis i.e. facts and arguments - i.e. Republican Democrats shrug their shoulders and will eat factory produced fish and eggs because the important thing is that the lives lived by the animals are fairly natural if albeit exploited - like the human beings that are also being exploited in those factories. Democratic Republicans are more like Lacto-Vegetarians in that they are happy to wear trainers stitched by mothers who use contraceptives or have regular abortions in order to have the opportunity to work, eat and sleep in the factory and keep their places there provided they contrive to maintain their sexual relationship with the management - until they become too old and are butchered and fed to the remaining staff to remind them to work harder to ingratiate themselves with their owners ( the concept of being an " employer " is now more or less ended save for the rhetorical use of the word.)...

... Of course Law and Order will now be much talked about after events in Manchester and the importance of Bobbies on The Beat will be stressed - especially those beating Republicans because of course we advocate bombs and guns the same way that Socialists advocate class war and mass murder - oops: sorry ! - I meant Conservatives of course ... One of the things which I think is about to arrive as agreed between The Democrats in Westminster will be that drones will replace The Police Persons in Questions.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7gQSkppYviw

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eSYQyAljYOY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=830nLZ3B_mo

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tSuKr4f3XJA
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have decided not to publish it here lest it puts any ideas into feeble minds : I have written this evening to the Chief Constable Peter Vaughan of the South Wales Police and Alun Michael as Police and Crime Commissioner about the security situation i.e. that putting police on our streets with machine guns is neither going to stop terrorists nor is it conducive to good public order.

This was a formal email on behalf of Repwblic.

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P.S. 02-06-17

Just in case you think that I am in a minority of one - one of the things which I have been complaining about the armed police outside of Y Senedd and now elsewhere is of children witnessing armed police officers and of this shaping their minds and attitudes as to what is acceptable and normal : the same complaint was made about children witnessing armed police in Chester by my ex-ex-ex without any reference to or conversation with me.


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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... mmm ... so ... oh ... can I find the energy for this ? ... first some good news -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39856354

Latest updates from senior elections and political analyst Peter Barnes
27 May: Conservative lead continues to shrink ... Five polls have been published this evening. Overall, they reinforce Thursday night's polls which suggested that the Conservative lead over Labour has shrunk again since last weekend but there are quite large differences between the pollsters' figures. ... ICM and ComRes have a larger gap between the two main parties than the other companies. They put it at 14% and 12% respectively but that's still down from what they were showing two weeks ago. The others have it at 6%-10%. ... Chris Prosser and Jane Green from the British Election Study have shown that over the last 50 years the proportion of voters who switch parties between elections has risen from around 15% in the 1960s and 1970s to 43% in 2015.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/most-seats

Conservative & Unionist - more or less - 1/14

Labour & Cooperative - more or less - 15/2

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/next-government

Conservative minority - 9/1 ... Labour minority - 14/1 ?

Conservative majority - 1/8 ... Labour majority - 17/1 ?

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/latest-general-election-poll-wales-13073791

This is the latest General Election poll for Wales as Labour surges ahead

... The first two polls of this general election campaign had showed clear Conservative leads in Wales, and indicated that the Tories were on course for an historic electoral breakthrough. ... The new YouGov poll for Cardiff University’s Wales Governance Centre and ITV Cymru Wales shows Labour have surged forward while the Tories are in reverse. ...

[ I DO NOT KNOW WHETHER TO BE RELIEVED OR APPALLED ... THIS COULD BE GOOD OR BAD DEPENDING UPON WHAT IS DONE WITH IT ... ]

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/new-poll-shows-surge-support-13105433

New poll shows surge in support for Welsh independence if Tories get increased majority

[ ... BUT SO WHAT ? ... WHAT WOULD THE LABOUR AND COOPERATIVE PARTY DO WITH IT ? ... PAINT THE POSTBOXES IN WALES RED ... ]


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/28/uncertainty-politics-u-turns-polls

Never has British politics felt so wild and unpredictable as in this election -
Zoe Williams 28-05-17

... All the restraints on political discourse, which force the elegant manoeuvres where you soften or pad out or re-contextualise reality so that it better fits your story, have been removed. To say the opposite of what is true is now more than acceptable: it amounts to a core strategy. Or, to put it more simply, they will just say any old bollocks. Psephologists scratch their heads about the shape of a Conservative victory – obviously they’ll win, but what will a real win look like? Is 80 seats enough to give this election a patina of purpose? What about 40? But we know full well that they’d take a victory of 15 and call it a landslide, because that’s the way politics is done in Opposite World. ...


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/27/exclusive-telegraph-orb-poll-labour-narrows-gap-six-points-women/

Exclusive Telegraph ORB poll : Labour narrows gap to six points as women voters surge towards Jeremy Corbyn

Ben Riley-Smith, assistant political editor Patrick Scott , data journalist - 28 MAY 2017

... Driving Labour’s comeback appears to be women voters, who have grown increasingly positive about Mr Corbyn’s party in recent weeks. ... Just 31 per cent of women planned to vote Labour in mid-May but that figure has jumped to 40 per cent this week – just a single point behind the Tories. ...


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/a-lib-dem-victory-its-reefer-madness-5q0cdk2q6

A Lib Dem victory? It’s reefer madness - Roland White - May 28 2017

One of the more eye-catching promises in the Liberal Democrat manifesto is legalisation of the use of cannabis, but it seems some supporters can’t hang on until Tim Farron sweeps into No 10. Somebody at the National Liberal Club has been — how can we put this politely? — conducting some in-depth policy research. ... “There was an unmistakeable smell of weed wafting over the club’s riverside terrace the other night,” reports a club member. “A couple of dozen members were having an early-evening aperitif and some of them were sniffing the air quizzically. Of course, everybody was far too polite to cause a fuss.” ... There is one great benefit to club members from soft-drug use: if you smoke enough, then suddenly a Lib Dem majority … want to read more ?


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nicola-sturgeon-defends-jeremy-corbyn-link-terrorism-salman-abedi-manchester-foreign-policy-theresa-a7759996.html

Nicola Sturgeon defends Jeremy Corbyn linking terrorism in UK to foreign policy - Rachel Revesz -

‘We must have the ability to have honest debates about foreign policy and security,’ says Scotland’s First Minister

[ GOOD = COMMON SENSE BREAKING OUT ]

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... but what I was looking for was something more significant culled from BBC Radio 4 News : one of the police chiefs is openly discussing re-establing internment i.e. imprisonment for an indefinite period without bail or trial or lawyers or even visits from family and friends who are also held to b
e suspects ... so much for " The Rule of Law " - I told you before that The United Kingdom only pays lip-service to and imitates political norms ... Also what has been reported is that another kind of Bill of Attainder ( not legal when The Rule of Law is present - The UK and North Korea are the only states which still claim it to be legal ) has in fact now been brought into use : exile without trial -

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/suspected-terrorists-banned-returning-britain-after-manchester-attack-rudd-278788210

UK Home Secretary Amber Rudd admits to using temporary exclusion orders without saying how many times

... Suspected terrorists have been put on temporary exclusion orders and banned from returning to Britain, while a former police chief called for "extremists" to be sent to internment camps on Sunday. ... Temporary exclusion orders make it unlawful for the subject to return to the country without engaging with UK authorities. ... Meanwhile, Tarique Ghaffur, a former assistant commissioner at Scotland Yard, called on Sunday for individuals suspected of being "extremists" to be rounded up and put into internment camps. ... Internment for suspected terrorists was suggested by a former military official a few days ago after the Manchester attacks took place. ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/w
iki/Bill_of_attainder

A bill of attainder (also known as an act of attainder or writ of attainder or bill of pains and penalties) is an act of a legislature declaring a person or group of persons guilty of some crime and punishing them, often without a trial. As with attainder resulting from the normal judicial process, the effect of such a bill is to nullify the targeted person's civil rights, most notably the right to own property (and thus pass it on to heirs), the right to a title of nobility, and, in at least the original usage, the right to life itself. Bills of attainder passed in Parliament by Henry Vlll on the 29 January 1542 resulted in the executions of a number of notable historical figures.

The use of these bills by Parliament eventually fell into disfavor due to the obvious potential for abuse and the violation of several legal principles, most importantly the separation of powers, the right to due process, and the precept that a law should address a particular form of behaviour rather than a specific individual or group. For these reasons, bills of attainder are expressly banned by Article I, section 9, of the United States Constitution (1787) as well as by the constitutions of all 50 US states.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_attainder#United_Kingdom

... Previously secret British War Cabinet papers released on 1 January 2006 have shown that, as early as December 1942, the War Cabinet had discussed their policy for the punishment of the leading Nazis if captured. British Prime Minister Winston Churchill had then advocated a policy of summary execution with the use of an Act of Attainder to circumvent legal obstacles. He was dissuaded by cabinet minister Richard Law who pointed out that the United States and Soviet Union still favoured trials ...

[ REMEMBER HOWEVER THOSE TELEPHONE BOOK TRIALS IN THE 1990s IN WHICH LONG LISTS OF NAMES WERE READ OUT AND DECLARED TO BE GUILTY ON THE BASIS OF MERE ALLEGATIONS ABOUT LIABILITY FOR POLL TAX NOT SUPPORTED BY ANY EVIDENCE ? THAT WAS THE SAME PRINCIPLE UPON WHICH A BILL OF ATTAINDER RESTS : SO ON NO ACCOUNT ACCEPT ANY ASSERTIONS BY THE DEMOCRATS IN WALES AND WESTMINSTER THAT THE UNITED KINGDOM HAS THE RULE OF LAW - IT DOES NOT : MICKEY MOUSE WAS SENTENCED TO INTERNMENT.]
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A useful listen ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08rp2sk

Something Understood - Truth - 29 days left to listen

As the UK election approaches, Mark Tully seeks truth in a post-truth world. He considers how to recognise what is true among a cacophony of conjecture and, in the company of author Howard Jacobson, how fiction might lead us to truth. They agree that we live in times when the search for truth is particularly important - but more difficult than ever.

With help from the words of Mahatma Gandhi, Emily Dickinson, Joseph Goebbels and Lewis Carroll, Mark examines just how slippery the concept of truth can be, and how an untruth told often enough, with enough conviction, can become credible.

Or, as that great believer in manufactured truth, Humpty Dumpty, would have it, "when I use a word it means just what I choose it to mean."

Producer: Adam Fowler

A 7digital production for BBC Radio 4.

... ah - well : you know my slogan - " Truth > Love > Freedom > Peace > Life ! " ... that is the path of Revolution and it begins with Truth which leads us to understand and thus Love others and want to give them what we would have for ourselves i.e. Freedom can only be given not seized and when others have what they need we find them at Peace with them and we stop fighting over resources and as we do so stop wasting them and have more to use to collectively use for our mutual benefit - we get more Life ! ...

... But what is " Truth " - ? ... It is a discourse upon our shared understanding of Life ... " Truth, Love, Freedom, Peace, Life " are all simple labels for complicated ongoing ever-contended discourses which involve debates about Spirituality, Religion, Politics, Economics, Science and Arts/Culture - and all of these are dominated by our use of languages i.e. this is why The Welsh Language is important to the survival of all nations - because it contains the history of our nation's consciousness which is our contribution to the consciousness of The People in Wales and The World. ...



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth

TRUTH

Truth is most often used to mean being in accord with fact or reality, or fidelity to an original or standard.[1] Truth may also often be used in modern contexts to refer to an idea of "truth to self," or authenticity.

The commonly understood opposite of truth is falsehood, which, correspondingly, can also take on a logical, factual, or ethical meaning. The concept of truth is discussed and debated in several contexts, including philosophy, art, and religion. Many human activities depend upon the concept, where its nature as a concept is assumed rather than being a subject of discussion; these include most ( but not all ) of the sciences, law, journalism, and everyday life. Some philosophers view the concept of truth as basic, and unable to be explained in any terms that are more easily understood than the concept of truth itself. Commonly, truth is viewed as the correspondence of language or thought to an independent reality, in what is sometimes called the correspondence theory of truth.

Other philosophers take this common meaning to be secondary and derivative. According to Martin Heidegger, the original meaning and essence of "Truth" in Ancient Greece was unconcealment, or the revealing or bringing of what was previously hidden into the open, as indicated by the original Greek term for truth, "Aletheia." On this view, the conception of truth as correctness is a later derivation from the concept's original essence, a development Heidegger traces to the Latin term "Veritas."

Pragmatists like C.S. Peirce take Truth to have some manner of essential relation to human practices for inquiring into and discovering Truth, with Peirce himself holding that Truth is what human inquiry would find out on a matter, if our practice of inquiry were taken as far as it could profitably go: "The opinion which is fated to be ultimately agreed to by all who investigate, is what we mean by the truth..."

Various theories and views of truth continue to be debated among scholars, philosophers, and theologians. Language and words are a means by which humans convey information to one another and the method used to determine what is a "truth" is termed a criterion of truth. There are differing claims on such questions as what constitutes truth: what things are truthbearers capable of being true or false; how to define and identify truth; the roles that faith-based and empirically based knowledge play; and whether truth is subjective or objective, relative or absolute.

Friedrich Nietzsche famously suggested that an ancient, metaphysical belief in the divinity of Truth lies at the heart of and has served as the foundation for the entire subsequent Western intellectual tradition: "But you will have gathered what I am getting at, namely, that it is still a metaphysical faith on which our faith in science rests--that even we knowers of today, we godless anti-metaphysicians still take our fire too, from the flame lit by the thousand-year old faith, the Christian faith which was also Plato's faith, that God is Truth; that Truth is 'Divine'..."

[ IT IS WORTHWHILE LOOKING AT THAT AND THESE WIKIPEDIA PAGES ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life

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I have tended to use the words " Freedom V Enslavement " but " Liberty V Slavery " may be better ... ( 7 V 7 letters )



[ I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING OF THE BIG CROP OF CARTOONS RECENTLY WHERE LIBERTY HAS BEEN TRUMPED : GOOGLE " LIBERTY CARTOON "]

[ LIBERTY IS OFTEN PAIRED WITH JUSTITIA AS COOPERATORS - THE FILE SIZE WAS TOO BIG TO INSERT AN OPENING LINK HERE ]

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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5425#5425

Obviously this UK General Election lacks poetical content for me.
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in Butetown - not in Cardiff Bay -_Sitting on a long time bomb - and I have much to say :_We used to have a lot of jobs which were well paid and skilled -_When I came here as a young man before they came and killed_My community all around me ... And yet I chose to stay = The Hook Road Scheme began our blight_But when I came to live here I had no sight_Of the plans being made in City Hall_Which engineered my life's downfall_Yet summoned me to Y Repwblic's call :_Which proclaims that Democracy confers no right = The basis of all of political authority_Is solely in Reason upon Rationality :_Thus the surest way to create an Injustice_Is by governing The State using votes which then just is_A permanent oppression for any Minority = When a community can get no legal redress_From The Democrats placing them under duress_Because no court exists which can stop the lawless dictate_That The People are The Property of The Bankers' Bandit State_Then they will end up just like we have - poverty stricken and in a mess.

I live in Butetown - not in Cardiff Bay -_
Sitting on a long time bomb - and I have much to say :_
We used to have a lot of jobs which were well paid and skilled -_
When I came here as a young man before they came and killed_
My community all around me ... And yet I chose to stay.

=

The Hook Road Scheme began our blight_
But when I came to live here I had no sight_
Of the plans being made in City Hall_
Which led me to hear Y Repwblic's call_
Which engineered my life's downfall_
And summoned me to Y Repwblic's call :_
Which proclaims that Democracy confers no right.

=

The basis of all of political authority_
The only true basis for political authority_
Is solely in Reasoning upon Rationality :_
Rests solely upon Reasoning about Rationality_
Thus the surest way to create an Injustice_
Therefore the most certain way to create an injustice_
And therefore surely the way to create an injustice_
Is by governing The State using votes which then just is_
Is to govern The State using votes which then just is_
A permanent oppression for any Minority.

=

When a community can get no legal redress_
From The Democrats placing them under duress_
Because no court exists which can stop the lawless dictate_
Because there is no court existing which can stop a lawless dictate_
Because there is no Supreme Court to stop their lawless dictate_
That The People are The Property of The Bankers' Bandit State_
Such as The People in Poverty being The Property of The Bankers' State_
Such as The People being The Property of The Bankers' Bandit State_
Such as The People being made into The Property of The Bankers' State_
Then they will end up just like we have - poverty stricken and in a mess.
Then they will end up just like Butetown is - poverty stricken and in a mess.

And the moral of this tail ? ... Do not let The Wag Dog The Tale ... possibly.

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author reserves the moral right - not to sue for copyright !

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... ahem ... now I will try to sort out the sense of what wanted to be said ...


I live in Butetown - not in Cardiff Bay -_
Sitting upon a long ticking bomb - and I have much to say :_
We used to have a lot of jobs which were well paid and skilled -_
When I came here as a younger man before they came and killed_
My community all around me ... And yet I chose to stay.

=


The Hook Road Scheme began our blight_
But when I came to live here I had no sight_
Of the plans being made in City Hall_
Which led me to hear Y Repwblic's call_
Which proclaims that Democracy confers no right.

=


There is only one basis for a truly political authority :_
It must rest solely upon Reasoning about Rationality_
Thus the surest of ways to create an Injustice_
Is to govern The State using votes which then just is_
A permanent oppression for any Minority.

=

When a community can access no legal redress_
For The Democrats placing them under duress_
Because we have no Welsh Court to stop a lawless dictate -_
Such as " The People are The Property of The Bankers' State " -_
Then they will end up like we Butetowners have - poverty stricken and in a mess.

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author reserves the moral right - not to sue for copyright !

Please tell me that I have now improved it ... please ... Y Repwblic needs more writers - not more readers ...
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