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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:40 pm    Post subject: UK General Election 8th June 2017 - oh ... gawd .... Reply with quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39645578 - MPs vote for a general election on 8 June

OH YES ... oh no ... meanwhile - Somewhere in Politics ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4IZpkGDvQ8

... well apparently The Democrats in Westminster have decided to miss the bus ... I thought that they were hooked on their motions ... just hanging around and far too settled and to run around having enough to do with their various business affairs ... but there is another election and they have to stand again ... and each with a gob full of grit ... and looking for a new hat to wear ... and hoping to get more into the house than the others ... pushing and shoving where only a short time ago they were all trying to keep in step ... virtually fighting ... a lot of lunatics ... Two Ton Theresa O'May - " I've got The Key of The House - this our house ! " ... but is The Left now right ahead ... and will The Right be left behind ... or will The People move things in some other direction like ... up ? ... down ? ... Two Ton Theresa O'May says " C'mon - we'll show them ! " ... The fate of The Cabinet is of course disputed but we all know what is hidden inside of it ... and what will emerge from the situation when it falls and all so predictably ... and inevitably there are the speeches about " Boys - BEHAVE ! " and " They need shaking up - and they are going to be shaken up soon - by us - and the women ! You men have been running this world long enough on your own - but it's got to stop ! " and " Now - I've told you - I want it now - immediately - without any delay ! - DO YOU UNDERSTAND ? "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somewhere_in_Politics
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39649119

General election 2017: Jeremy Corbyn vows to 'overturn the rigged system'

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has vowed to "overturn the rigged system" by putting power and wealth back in the hands of "the people". ... In his first major general election speech, he said 8 June's poll was not a "foregone conclusion" and Labour could defy the "Establishment experts". ... A Labour government would not "play by their rules," he added. ... He attacked the "morally bankrupt" Conservatives who he said would not stand up to tax avoiders and other members of a "gilded elite," who were extracting wealth "from the pockets of ordinary working people". ...

Well ... I am glad that he said it - but The United Kingdom is an Aristocracy so the wealthy will now throw everything against him ... and if he wins then they will strip everything from our society that they can take.

http://www.welshlabour.wales/carwyn - struck dumb by the election call ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-39654026

General election: Labour has 'mountain to climb'

Labour has a "mountain to climb" in the snap general election, First Minister Carwyn Jones has said. ... Mr Jones made his first appearance since the announcement of a poll for 8 June was called earlier this week. Campaigning in Bridgend, Mr Jones said his party would need to tailor its message according to which nation it campaigns in. ... [ THE RED DRAGON MUST SPEAK WITH A FORKED TONGUE ? ] ... Earlier, Conservative MP for Cardiff North Craig Williams told BBC Radio Wales the Conservatives had delivered a "historic" fair funding agreement for Wales. ... He said the decision to go to the polls was a sign of the prime minister's strength. ... Plaid Cymru Westminster leader Hywel Williams said his party did not want a repeat of the EU referendum campaign. ... "We've got endemic poverty. We've got a lack of imagination and energy in the government in Cardiff and the government here in London doesn't really bother about us unless we make a lot of noise." ...

IF YOU HAVE GOT TIME : I AM LISTENING TO THIS AS I BROWSE -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zooE5GE81TU

2014 Personality Lecture 11: Existentialism: Viktor Frankl

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-39646761

French politician appears in seven places at once


... HELL ... the buggers are multiplying ??? ... or adding ? ... or dividing ?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/apr/20/tactical-voting-to-beat-the-tories-does-the-maths-equal-a-coalition

Tactical voting to beat the Tories: does the maths equal a coalition? Every few years, someone suggests forming a progressive coalition to beat the Conservatives. Could a Lib/Lab/Green alliance really beat Theresa May?

... At present, the Tories look set to win about 392 seats with Labour crashing to the Hagueish total of 170. A perfectly-executed Lab/Lib pact could reduce that to about 361, handing 25 seats to Labour and 6 to the Lib Dems. If all progressive voters were directed by an all-seeing omnipotent god-being to perfectly optimize their vote then the Tories would land in the 330s. That would still leave them over 100 ahead of Labour (on 217) and be enough to form a majority. ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/uk-general-election-2017-poll-tracker-odds/

... Some polls have the Tories at almost double the vote share of Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party, indicating that the most likely outcome of the election would be a landslide victory that would increase her party’s current working majority of 17 in the House of Commons. ... some experts estimate that the Tories will take as many as 56 seats from Labour, leaving them with a 200-seat lead over the official opposition party. ... Follow how the race is shaping up with the Telegraph's poll tracker, which looks at national voting intention from individual polls.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/theresa-may-is-asking-voters-to-sign-blank-cheque-in-snap-election-2l7h6scc9

May is asking voters to sign a blank cheque

david aaronovitch

The young will never forgive us if we don’t demand answers to the vital Brexit questions during the next seven weeks ...

[ ... AND THAT MAY BE THE WHOLE POINT OF A SNAP ELECTION : TOO LITTLE TIME FOR REAL POLITICS.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjnvtRgpg6g

2016 Lecture 01 Maps of Meaning: Introduction and Overview
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote a really nice post here and I just do not understand what happened : gone ...

It was about voting not conveying any facts and arguments and therefore not being political but Demockeratickal etc - a conjuring trick to persuade The People in Wales and The World that in casting a ballot they have transferred their little bit of " Sovereignty " to their representatives ... The origins of the idea of Sovereignty lie in 16c theology and it simply does not exist : only The Rule of Law exists ... as I was just copying and pasting over to here ...

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5118#5118

Declining Democracy by Refusing Registration ?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:35 pm    Post subject: election Reply with quote

My feeling remains that you must vote or you will be more helpless than ever.I know that Labour was rubbish on the stop PIP front, but I will have to vote Labour as a strategic measure- that is if I am still alive.

I'd encourage anyone to do the same, as Westminster still has a first past the post system. For May, it's about a mandate for Brexit. We should withhold that in my view, but more importantly we must destroy the Nazis or they'll destroy us.

As I see it, we must now resist the Tories as we would the Nazis. This is war. We should use the ballot box, but we will need other methods too.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blairites will deliberately lose the election because they loathe Corbyn.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you know I am campaigning against The Electoral Registration and Administration Act 2013 i.e. as far as I am concerned voting only encourages them ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39662597

Are May and Corbyn really chalk and cheese?

" ... it's worth noting that the rebel and the reverend's daughter have both chosen to try to touch the same nerve among the voting public. ... that there are millions of voters out there who believe "the system" doesn't work for them ... the odds are "rigged" or stacked up against with voters. ... "

I do not think that any of them will side with The People in Wales or England or Scotland or Northern Ireland ... The Democrats in The One Party will shore up their system forever : their jobs are more secure than anyone elses !
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From: David B Lawrence
Sent: 23 April 2017 00:10
To:
Subject: " VOTE FOR BRITAIN - VOTE FOR TEAM GB ! " might be a good sort of pitch for The Labour and Cooperative Party in 2017. Fw: COMPLAINT - Is it utterly beyond a supposedly prestigious international company to be able to organise taking down a brief message ?

Dear Stephen Doughty MP, Cardiff South and Penarth,

I wrote the following this evening : if it is permissable for " the Derek Hatton of Butetown " to contribute after 35 years -

" VOTE FOR BRITAIN - VOTE FOR TEAM GB ! " might be a good sort of pitch for The Labour and Cooperative Party in 2017.

People are scared : they want to support a national team - try presenting using the party as a team big enough for the job.

Get the focus off Jeremy Corbyn and get a national television slot for every MP to get people to identify with their own MP.

Emphasise what a big task BREXIT is and the necessity of every talent being brought to bear in The House of Commons.

Emphasise how few people around Theresa May's government there are involved to undertake the massive task of BREXIT.

( OH : AND BY THE WAY - CAN YOU ARGUE FOR AN END TO PROSECUTING THOSE WHO DO NOT WISH TO VOTE PLEASE.)

You can skip my political doggerel ... the article is pasted over the earlier email which I sent to you about CAPITA and PIP.

David B. Lawrence,

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5145#5145

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Odger

Way back in Eighteen Seventy Two_
George Odger raised The Red Flag True_
He helped to found The T.U.C._
And The Co-Operative Union also - see ?_
Yet those that did this were but a few ..._

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Jowett

Fred Jowlett was the man in Eighteen Ninety Two_
Who got himself elected - and as a Socialist too !_
The Children in Bradford each got a free meal_
But their parents disliked his deep pacifist zeal_
He finally left The Labour Party in Nineteen Thirty Two ..._

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Maxton

James Maxton led The ILP in Nineteen Thirty Six_
And to The Abdication Bill he wanted to affix_
" The Republican Amendment " to deal with Missus Nyx_
But " The Greatest Parliamentarian " did not resort to tricks_
When he exposed the way that millions were forced across The Styx ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Wilkinson

Churchill thought that he ought to win in Nineteen Forty Five_
But Ellen Wilkinson won instead - she taught him how to strive :_
Her Suffrage Pilgrimage was before The Jarrow March_
A Trade Unionist and Pacifist - for words she did not parch :_
The United Nations bears her mark - she helped to make it thrive ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goronwy_Roberts,_Baron_Goronwy-Roberts

I will now end this proem in Nineteen Fifty Six -_
He was not very radical but this he tried to fix -_
He presented the petition - which had an awful lot of names -_
For Wales to have a parliament - instead of bombs and flames :_
Goronwy Roberts was his name - an MP from North Wales' sticks ...

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I suppose that the question lurking in my mind is whether The Labour and Cooperative Party can win The General Election ... Yes - I think that they can - but of course I will not be voting for The Democrats in Westminster because I am " voting against The United Kingdom " -

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=689 -
Declining Democracy by Refusing Registration ?

- because I have become very concerned about the anti-political system whose supporters do not call it " The Dis-United Kingdom." ... In this political system the vast majority of political opinion - both of " The Left " and " The Right " - is unrepresented because of The First Past The Post electoral contest whose outcome is determined by a minimal number of floating voters who typically are the least politically informed and most susceptible to bribes and threats and weather conditions and what they have either just seen on television or hope to see on television that night. The actual variety of political opinion founded upon the our diverse lives is not represented and so this non-political system deliberately excludes the facts and arguments which are the proper basis of political authority - not " Sovereignty " - ! ... The Labour and Cooperative Party are sadly talking themselves into defeat because they keep on harping on about the likelihood of it : the floating voters are those kinds of dull wits who want to be on the winning side to give their deflated egos a little puff and also having spent months attacking Jeremy Corbyn they have conveyed the message to even their usual electorate - " Do not bother to come out and vote - we are going to lose : it simply is not worth bothering ... "

But it is : I know that they have The Hierarchy in The Media to deal with but if The Labour and Cooperative Party could come to their senses and remember that a party is not the leader and that policies are not merely soundbites then they would have a chance if the re-presented themselves as a team, a family - a movement of diverse and mostly moderate opinion. The trouble is that not just The Labour and Cooperative Party but The Conservative and Unionist Party forgot this in the 1980s : so many of us who are interested in politics were driven out of our parties by those who went on to turn The United Kingdom into this non-political system which has no contact with those it governs because the hundreds of thousands of activists who used to go out and knock on doors collecting facts and listening to arguments were vigorously attacked for bringing those facts and arguments to the attention of those whose vested interests in both their egos and pockets were in maintaining tight control over their parties. Quite simply : political debate has ceased to exist in Wales and Westminster and The People in Wales withdrew their consent to the non-political system by ceasing to vote ...

... The Demockerats in Wales and Westminster think that the remedy for no longer having their consent to be governed is to transfer the basis for establishing their consent to The Electoral Register instead of basing it upon The General Election : their remedy for their lack of The Democratic Mandate is to steal names from every list that they can find to subscribe to The Electoral Register ... as it were merely a laundry list ... but The Electoral Register is not merely a list : it is not like having your name recorded in a school register - but imagine if you will what would happen to a school where the teachers substituted filling in any name which they could find onto the attendance registers and then when more than half of the children were missing at each roll call claiming it did not matter ... or if more members of a household or company were recorded to avoid taxes or obtain welfare benefits : we would call it fraudulent ... The Electoral Register is the one place here The People in Wales can peaceably register their the fact that they do not approve of the non-political system which is harming them - yet there is no means to say either " I consent " or " I do not consent " to " The Social Contract " - because their names have already been subscribed there already and the question is " Do you consent to tick the box which agrees to your name being stolen by the government ? " ...

... The Electoral Registration and Admimnistration Act has no tick box for " Do you not consent ? " but it does have a warning as to the harassment, fines and imprisonment waiting if you do not tick that single box provided. The fact is that if there is no possibility of " No - I do not consent " then it does not matter how many people willingly say " Yes - I consent " because the mere presence of coercion to prevent Dissenters saying " No " invalidates the answer " Yes " being given by Assenters. The use of coercion and threats invalidates the testimony of witnesses given in court rooms and if jurors are found to have been subjected to these are disqualified from participation - prosecuted ... Again - The Electoral Register is not a laundry list nor a shopping list nor a convenient list of names made to alleviate the burden of registering to vote : it is " The Social Contract " and as such requires the positive affirmative action of saying " Yes - I agree with The Political System " but that will not be a valid contract if it is not possible to refuse to have your name on The Social Contract it by saying " No - I do not agree with The Political System."

This is not Revolution : it is not about rejecting every other relationship with The State but about registering dissent in a more constructive way than not-voting, spoiling your ballot paper or vandalising the polling booth - political actions are not tantrums but are defined by having a political argument attached to them. The Supporters of The United Kingdom however do not want to know the facts and arguments of this widespread antipathy towards their non-political system but rather would suppress them : this is anti-political behaviour which is building up undisclosed anger within our society about the failures, manipulations and corruptions being practiced by The Demockerats and pretended by them to be Democracy ... But Democracy is defined as being governed by Consent ... In a political society there would be a strong concern to provide the means to articulate and express Dis-Content in a constructive way such that the level of it generally and its varieties are accepted as facts and arguments - which is the true source of Political Authority ( not electoral majorities.)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39655379

The seats that could decide the election - By Peter Barnes, Senior Elections and Political Analyst, BBC News

There are 650 constituencies in the United Kingdom. But the election campaign over the coming weeks will be concentrated in the marginal battleground seats - the ones with small majorities that are most likely to change hands. ... There's no official definition of a marginal seat but people often look at constituencies where the majority - the gap between the first and second placed parties - is under 10%.

... And this is the consequences of the First Past The Post electoral arrangements of The Dis-United Kingdom : because this is conducted on the basis of divide and rule there is no sense of everybody in Britain being part of the same election ... All supposedly " national " elections are very localised so that in most constituencies the result is a foregone conclusion because the seats are only ever taken by one party or another - whereas the fate of The People in The Rotten Boroughs which are Red / Blue / Yellow etc is decided by those in the marginal constituencies where instead of campaigning on the issues which determine the fates of everybody else the candidates are squabbling over the graffiti in some obscure bus shelter or winning votes by publishing pamphlets which have a lovely little kitten on the front of them ... The electoral fate of The People of The Dis-United Kingdom is usually settled by the casting of around 60,000 votes i.e. in the case of this 2017 UK General Election 1% of the populace will decide not only the government for the next five years but our relationships with many other countries for centuries to come : our fate now rests upon the prayers of Tibbles ...



[ NO - I DO NOT NORMALLY GO AROUND CORRECTING OTHER PEOPLE'S WRITING BUT ... ]

FOR : Peter Barnes
Senior Elections and Political Analyst, BBC News

using some of your comments I wrote -

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5147#5147

You will note that I said - " The electoral fate of The People of The Dis-United Kingdom is usually settled by the casting of around 60,000 votes i.e. in the case of this 2017 UK General Election 1% of the populace will decide not only the government for the next five years but our relationships with many other countries for centuries to come : our fate now rests upon the prayers of Tibbles ... "

I would like The BBC to estimate how few votes will actually determine the result.

Grammatical error ? ... " The seats that could decide the election " ... surely that should have been " The seats WHICH could decide the election " ... ? ... ? ...

I hope that you enjoy the gag about the kitten : perhaps you could pay attention to WHICH issues are being debated in these marginal constituencies - it would be terrible for the country if THAT kitten determined the fate of The United Kingdom.

Regards,

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may not be a popular view of this - but I deem this to be how the populism which The Democrats in Westminster use actually works ... remember that " Bryn Mawr " symbol used by the furniture cooperative ? The distribution of political opinion looks a lot like that : most votes are to be fund near the centre of any society and they are heaped up like that " Big Hill " - it is the distribution curve but in three dimensions, a sort of bell curve in three dimensions where most of The People in Wales are firmly anchored in The Common Sense of Wales whose centre of opinion is located apparently slightly to " The Left " of The Common Sense in England ... The Common Sense in Ireland tends to be to " The Right " of ours and The Common Sense in Scotland tends to be to " The Left " of ours ... In The Model which is supposedly the basis for The Book there is a " Left " and a " Right " but in The 2D Model there is a complete circle of opinion like a round table with places around it with a space each for representatives of six political opinions : Conservative, Fascist and Liberal seats on " The Right " and Anarchist, Socialist and Communist seats on " The Left " - with opinions of The People in Wales heaped up in The Centre of The Round Table of Politics ... not as in a column but as in this three dimensional bell shape where each person has their own political position : the distribution of political opinion is constantly shifting due to the events impinging upon The People in Wales constantly reshaping their opinions ...

In order to win The 2017 General Election - any election - The Democrats in Wales have to grab as many of the votes on the table as possible which means for the most part they will make a bid in their pitch to The People in Wales to where most of the voters are - in The Centre of The Round Table of Politics ... but - they can not win any kind of election by appealing in their manifestos to the moderate sensible opinions of The Common Sense in Wales ... the votes which decide any election are not in The Centre of The Round Table of Politics but in the outlying foothills of the mountain of votes which is " Y Bryn Mawr." ... oh - go on : check my Welsh grammar ... and the trouble really begins when The Round Table of Politics begins to be rocked by the events going on under the surface : Y Bryn Mawr begins to shake - and even move - in response to events and votes begin to tumble off the pile and be scattered to the edges of the table i.e. The People in Wales whose circumstances become unstable - and who have no political education to speak of with which to cope with their distress using a moderating conception of political life like Republicanism - start to cast around for explanations as to what is happening to them and become the enthusiastic supporters of political extremists who can provide them with simplistic explanations and scapegoats whilst promising them everything for nothing more than their vote ...

... These are The People in Wales who decide our elections because The Democrats in Wales and The World can rely upon their share of the voters in The Centre The Round Table of Politics but in order to win elections they must not lose those voters at the margins of society who hold simplistic extremist political opinions to political extremists ... Only in order to obtain these votes The Democrats in Wales make not a mistake but a policy of telling them Lies and of treating these marginal voters with Hatred : they are not interested in the plight of The People in Wales in Poverty because the causes of their circumstances are too individualised and complicated for these participants in The Non-Political System Not Being Called By Its Supporters The Dis-United Kingdom ... The Democrats in Wales and The World do not want to know the facts nor understand the arguments about The Lives of The People : they want to get elected in order to have access to power - they never get to control The State because that belongs to The Aristocrats - or in other countries The Monocrats - or Hierocrats : any of these types of Ultraist can morph into another and none of them are Altruists although for the sake of appearances they may pretend to be so. All forms of Ultraism cite " Sovereignty " as justification for placing themselves beyond The Rule of Law and claim that it is the source of their " political authority." ...

... But true political authority rests upon The Facts and The Arguments about The Lives of The People - and the most important facts and arguments are to be found in The Lives of The People in Poverty because for the most part they are the victims of the events in The World ... events mostly caused by The Democrats in Wales and The World - as the servants of The Aristocrats who for the most part presently own The World and treat as their farm with The Democrats as hired hands to attend to the livestock involved and to slaughter them occasionally ... The Democrats of course are in competition with each other for The Votes of The Turkeys in Wales and The World and naturally want to represent themselves as being the most fitted to govern them and so in order to obtain their votes they promise to make it Christmas every day ... Of course Muslim Lambs are promised Eid every day and Jewish Chickens are promised Hanukkah every day - and Hindu Nothings are promised Nothing every day for all Eternity and yet they still enthusiastically vote in their billions for The Democrats in India ...

... Presumably Confucian ( Pigs ? ) are promised Ching Ming every day ... but wherever you find a political system claimed to be a Democracy you find that The Democrats in The World are the caretakers of The State in Ultraism i.e. on behalf of the private interests of Hierocrats, Democrats, Aristocrats, Monocrats and just about every other kind of -crats that you can imagine ( although I believe that basically there are only those four kinds of -crats because these are labels for the four basic varieties of Ultraist : Ultraism progressively conducted by Lies, Hatred, Enslavement and War - ultimately leading to The Death of Politics in a society descends into Chaos - which is a progressive concentration of control over society ( this does not require The State as a mechanism e.g. Anarchist Democracy can lead to Anarchist Monocracy) into fewer and fewer hands which results in fewer and fewer successful political decisions ( by progressively excluding political criticism by those protesting the harmful results of such decisions ) leading to an unstable impoverished society due to not attending to The Public Interest and the entire collapse of The Rule of Law.

But can The Republicans in The World prevent this catastrophe called Democracy ?

Well ... not today : I am supposed to be meeting " Tin Donna " for lunch.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


There is an old proverb which I have rejected_
That if you can not do something then don't feel dejected_
For if you can understand it then at least you can teach_
But if you lack understanding then you still can preach -_
And with no qualifications : you can be elected !

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !


There is a good old proverb ( which I have now rejected )_
That if you can not do something then do not feel dejected_
For if you can understand it then at least it you still can teach_
But if you are lacking understanding ... well at least you may still preach -_
But if you lack all understanding ... well at least you still may still preach -_
And without any qualifications : you can get yourself elected !

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright !
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today The BBC have mostly concentrated upon The Presidential Election in France ... perhaps the UK General Election is just dull - or embarrassing ...

Oh - oh ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39696861

France elections: Le Pen steps aside as National Front leader

Far-right French presidential candidate Marine Le Pen has announced that she is stepping aside as leader of her National Front (FN) party. ... The move comes just a day after she reached the second round of the French election, where she will face centrist Emmanuel Macron. ... Ms Le Pen told French TV she needed to be above partisan considerations. ... Ms Le Pen said her decision had been made out of the "profound conviction" that the president of the republic must bring together all of the French people. ... The BBC's Hugh Schofield in Paris says this is a symbolic act intended to show her concerns are for the country as a whole and not for her party, and that she is reaching out for the voters of candidates defeated in the first round, particularly those of the Republicans' François Fillon. ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/François_Fillon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Republicans_(France) [ DOUBTFUL : THEY USED TO BE ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_for_a_Popular_Movement [ ALL DOUBTFUL ]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/francois-fillon-investigated/

Conservative François Fillon is a former French prime minister who ran as a candidate in the 2017 presidential election after a five year hiatus from national politics. ... He began as one of the leading lights of the 2017 French presidential race, yet his Les Républicains campaign was hit by claims he paid family members for parliamentary jobs they allegedly never performed. ... Here's everything you need to know about the Thatcher-loving 63-year-old. ...
THAT IS ENOUGH ...
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-39698499

Election: Theresa May urges voters to 'strengthen my hand'

Every single vote will count in the June general election, the prime minister has told party workers on a campaign visit to Wales. ... Theresa May visited Bridgend as an opinion poll suggested the Tories were set to make gains in Labour heartlands. ... ... Earlier, in an article for the Western Mail, the prime minister said the election was an opportunity to give the UK "the strong and stable leadership it needs to see us through Brexit and beyond". ...

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-holds-campaign-event-bridgend-12942023

MMM ... mmm ... What I thought about the BBC footage ( see video ) was that those standing around Theresa May looked very glum ... she talked of " our country " which is bound to offend some people at least given that most Welsh people - even Conservatives - think that they are living in the country next door to Theresa May's country : by what other sense can you interpret the meaning of the word " united " ... but then The People in Britain do not feel united ... There was a nice Radio 4 programme on the other night which elicited some of these differences which may be invisible to those overseas e.g. The People in The Republic in The Isle of Wight ... but that is typical trouble with those living on small islands cut off from the rest of civilisation - you watch : they will soon be campaigning for WEXIT - and Wight Republicanism ...

[ LISTEN FROM 5 mins in - how the name of our non-political system - " The UK " - has been used to replace the more correct " Great Britain and Northern Ireland " as the name of our shared island plus the extra bit of the other island that we are ... borrowing ... The original name of our shared island being " Alba " = a Celtic word for " White " or " Bright " or " Light " ] but The People in Rome called it " Britannia " but the meaning of this is obscure but one contributor suggests that there was an original word denoting " ( The Land of ) The Beautiful " from the Brythonic / Welsh word " pridd " as in " Pontypridd " ... now that is interesting : the pont / bridge has Republican associations - they used to meet up there in what I understood to be " the house of mud " i.e. a white-washed cob cottage near the famous bridge - " ty-pridd " ... ... Beautiful of course could be " fair " = " teg " in Welsh ... so The People in Rome mispronounced something possibly like ... Pridd-teg-nghia ... Our-Fair-Mud-Yeah ? ... hey - have Radio 4 bought into my " Untied Kingdom " gag ? ... AN ENJOYABLE LISTEN ANY HOW ]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08mb1g2 - Word of Mouth : How Countries Got Their Names
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:42 pm    Post subject: naah Reply with quote

My vote won't count. This is a safe Tory seat.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest Marianne I don't think that anybody's vote counts for other than endorsing this non-political system : facts and arguments are the proper basis for politics not bribes and threats - so how can we create political systems which are not Democratical but political instead.?
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... sad to say - probably a vote winner to flatter the electorate's egos this way ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39730685

Johnson: Difficult to say 'no' to Syria strike

... In recent years the convention has been that MPs get a vote on military action, but with Parliament about to dissolve ahead of a general election that could be put in doubt. ... Asked if the Commons would need to be consulted ahead of any military strike, Mr Johnson commented: "I think that needs to be tested. ... The law does not require the government to win a Commons vote before launching military action. ... In deploying its armed forces, the government acts under the royal prerogative but because the UK's constitution is largely unwritten, nobody is quite sure how far that extends. ... [ AS FAR AS THEY DARE TO PUSH IT : DAVID CAMERON JUST FORGOT TO MENTION DURING THE LAST GENERAL ELECTION THAT HE HAD IGNORED THE HOUSE OF COMMONS' VOTE ] ... In 2013, then Conservative prime minister David Cameron lost a Commons vote on possible UK military action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's government to deter the use of chemical weapons. ...

[ IT BEGINS TO SORT OF SEEM THAT WHAT PEOPLE WANT FROM THEIR SUPPOSED " RIGHT TO VOTE " IS A SENSE OF A PERSONAL SLICE OF THE EGOTISTIC POWER WIELDED BY THOSE IN CONTROL OF THE STATE WITHOUT ANY OF THE HASSLE OF PARLIAMENT BEING INVOLVED : THEY ARE AS EGOTISTICAL AS THOSE WHO SUPPOSEDLY GOVERN THEM AND SO EXCITED BY THEIR CAPRICIOUS WILFUL BEHAVIOUR - POLITICS HOWEVER WITH ITS FACTS AND ARGUMENTS GETS IN THE WAY OF SUCH FANTASIES BEING FULFILLED ... SURELY LOGICALLY THE FINAL STEP IN A DEMOCRACY IS A REFERENDUM TO ELECT A DICTATOR ? ]

... Incidentally I have I suspect started to refer only to The BBC version of reality because ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36110822

Reality Check: Are we giving £350m a week to Brussels ? - By Anthony Reuben 22 April 2016

" ... Mayor of London Boris Johnson used the figure in The Sun this morning that the UK gives £350m a week to Brussels. ... He has gone with that figure despite a letter from the head of the UK statistics watchdog Sir Andrew Dilnot on Thursday, which described it as "potentially misleading". ... In 2014, the UK's contribution to the EU budget - the amount we paid to Brussels - was actually £276m a week. ... "

[ THE CYCLOLOGY OF THAT IS THAT DESPITE SUCH ARTICLES REFUTING THESE FALSE CLAIMS THE REPETITION OF " £350M " MAKES THAT FIGURE STICK IN THE MIND AND ITS WRONGNESS IS FORGOTTEN ]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39730326

Brexit: Chancellor Merkel warns UK on scope of talks with EU

" ... German Chancellor Angela Merkel says some British people have "illusions" about discussing the UK's future ties with the EU at the same time as nailing down the UK's Brexit terms. ... The future relationship can only be discussed once the exit issues - such as UK payments to the EU budget - are resolved, she told German MPs. ... On the sequence of the Brexit talks, she said "some people in the UK still have some illusions on that score". ... "That would be just a waste of time." ...

[ LET US BRIEFLY CHECK OUT THE GERMAN PRESS THEN ]

http://www.bild.de/news/ausland/vorurteile/bild-test-englaender-englisch-18499258.bild.html

[ THE " TEST " IS NEAR THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE : I KNOW THAT I SHOULD NOT HAVE LAUGHED BUT ... ]

[ ... MMM ... OK : WHAT DO THE FRENCH THINK OF THE BRITISH ? ... ]

http://www.parismatch.com/Actu/Politique

[ NOTHING AT ALL TODAY : TOTALLY PRE-OCCUPIED WITH THEIR OWN EGOTISTS ... ]

http://www.repubblica.it/politica/2017/04/26/news/reporters_sans_frontieres_rapporto_italia-163912811/

[ ... fake news ... political repression ... provocation and threats by political leaders posing as strong ... "verbal or physical intimidation, provocation and threats," ... "pressures by mafia groups and criminal organizations," ... "discredited by the media as a favorite weapon." ... The identity of unwelcome journalists is not published ... "Under the pressure of politicians, Italian journalists often opt for self-censorship." ... ]

[ MMM ... I HOPE THAT I TRANSLATED THAT CORRECTLY ... I HAD FORGOTTEN HOW INTERESTING EL PAIS CAN BE - ]

http://elpais.com/elpais/inenglish.html

http://elpais.com/elpais/2017/04/26/inenglish/1493193153_981349.html

Panned: Hundreds protest corruption outside Spain’s ruling party HQ
Spanish PM says new string of graft scandals will not affect his minority government - 26 ABR 2017 - MIGUEL GONZÁLEZ - MAI MONTERO

" ... Hundreds of people gathered in front of the Madrid headquarters of the ruling Popular Party (PP) on Tuesday to protest political corruption in the wake of new revelations of alleged graft by former regional government officials. Marchers banged on pots, yelled “the PP is not a party, it’s a gang,” and raised signs bearing messages such as “Your envelope, my cut,” alluding to under-the-table cash bribes paid out by businessmen in exchange for government contracts. ... "
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes - I am listening to the election stuff but nothing grabs my attention yet an Y Repwblic is not a news service ... Try a proem - a text / pwnco conversation with Ariadne who might grant you the other side of it :

DOES THIS ONE EVEN SEEM TO MAKE SENSE - ANYBODY ?
My name is Maximus Donaldus Trumpus_Commander of The Army - THAT'S ME !!! - and The Leader of The Rumpus :_Loyal servant to The True Emperor - IT'S : ME !!! -_Fathered upon a muddled son - BY ME !!! -_And married - TO ME !!! - a fuddled ( cuss.) = Dai Saw

Nope!


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I explained to another respondent the origins of the tag " Dai Saw " - the double entendre that I liked about it was that I like pithy quotations especially proverbs of which I would very much like to be remembered for some pseudo proverb of which I have made up several.

Incidentally: you know that I do not like birthdays, Christmas, Hanukkah etc because my mum made them dreadful and many bad things happened on them - e.g. on my 20th birthday I took the decision to drop out of UWIST having become too ill with Cyclothymia to cope with whilst also fighting Thatcher. Thereafter I deliberately started ignoring them & on my 21st I was camping on Llantrisant Common in the pouring rain building a replica artillery emplacement for friends in ( The Sealed Knot ) Grant and Jim were complaining that I was bothering to cut through the logs instead of half-sawing and them stamping on them which Grant demonstrated. I pointed out that I had a damaged foot & cut the next log "in half " rather more & invited Grant to finish the job - he stamped so hard in anger that he sumersaulted & in the laughter afterwards Jim gave me my favourite present - he nicknamed me "Dai Saw" = my "bardic tag"
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugger.

Lost a lovely rant to this faulty connection.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now why can not The Democrats sleep badly.?

Ought to be a proem.... I woke early and could not sleep again so decided to watch " The International " - and I liked it : the theme is the way in which the banks finance the international small arms trade - gambling on both sides in a conflict - resulting in millions of innocents dead at the hands of those professing to be " The Democrats " - and then of course those innocents who survive are oppressed and extorted by the victors who need to pay off the debts they incurred to the bankers in killing their compatriots' loved ones in their bid for political power. That is arguably what this and every election is about : The People in Wales and The World are deceived into thinking that by casting their votes they might just get lucky and be " winners " - The Democrats in Wales and The World delude them into believing that somehow those who vote for them are going to have share in their victory - but their share is no more than a few pennies : in a Democracy the losers are always The People - " heads : they win - tails : we lose." ... Hence we should not give a toss for this Demockery : if we have any sense we should keep our pennies away from The Democrats in Wales and The World and not be so stupid as to hazard them on their rigged game in the hope of winning more - because eventually we will not only lose everything that we have and end up in debt to The State - but become enslaved as the property of those whom the non-political system not called The Dis-United Kingdom is designed to serve the private interests of - The Aristocrats whose wealth originated in banditry but is now hidden in bankery. Enjoy the trailer - I have enjoyed the film.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5mDi49Qj1xk

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http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5215#5215 =

Why is it that The Democrats are not sleeping badly ?_Why - unlike The Republicans - are they mis-behaving madly ?_Why do they extort from us these taxes to pay for planes and tanks ?_Why are our schools and hospitals now indebted to the banks ?_Because The People still believe that voting is the answer - sadly ... dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right not to

http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5215#5215 =
Why is it that The Democrats are not sleeping badly ?_
Why - unlike The Republicans - are they mis-behaving madly ?_
Why do they extort from us these taxes to pay for planes and tanks ?_
Why are our schools and hospitals now indebted to the banks ?_
Because The People still believe that voting is the answer - sadly ...

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right not to sue for copyright !


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I have often said that many of The People in Wales treat their balllot papers as a free entry into The National Lottery of The United Kingdom - certainly The City of London is actually run as a casino where their insurance and pension funds are literally gambled away - and when they do not win they meekly accept that they are going to end up unemployed and homeless, bringing up their children and grandchildren in poverty and vaguely hoping that somehow they will win next time ... The Democrats in Wales and The World present their manifestoes as if they are promising free gifts to various private interest groups - but this is an inversion of the real situation : The Democrats are not benefactors but beggars - they are not dispensing gifts but pleading for dispensations ... The People in Wales and The World seem to have a peculiar difficulty in perceiving this sleight of hand so let me try and put it in more every day terms .... Imagine one of those mischievious adoptive nieces of mine solemnly arguing to me that if I give her the contents of my wallet she might graciously return some of it to me ... being a soft sod I ask her what she wants and agree that she can have a £1 to go buy some sweets but that she is to bring me the change .... She not only comes back with her face smeared with chocolate but announces that the corner shop gave her a £100 credit on the basis that I will pick up the bill - and so she bought all of her friends whatever they wanted ... And she has not bothered to visit me for five years because she has been partying with all of her new friends and now has to settle what she says I owe her ... You think that is bad ? ... You just would not believe what they get up to in real life !!! ...

Democracy - if you still want to carry on with it - is not about voting for this or that representative - nor is it about sending delegates to assert a decision - but about consenting to the decisions being made by the government : all of the signs are that there has been a massive collapse of consent i.e. The People in Wales are no longer positively consenting to non-political system not called The Dis-United Kingdom ... This is frustration which is not the same sentiment as Nationalism : it is not the desire to erect fences but the desire to build bridges and yet this is not being translated into effective political action because The People in Wales' have barely any civic education and their understanding of politics is close to nil
...

... Y Repwblic is I fully admit not what I hoped it to be - a vigorously conducted cockpit of a conversation between diverse opposing ideologies with The Black Cock standing astride the whole dunghill and crowing loudly for " Civ " i.e. Wales' all but forgotten but once internationally influential Civic Republican tradition ... But Y Repwblic is as political conversation should be : imaginative, friendly and above all questioning everything which is being presented as " normal." ... In terms of its political system Wales is arguably the most abnormal country in The World - and we should not be proud of that : the reason why other political systems are so similar is because The People in The World have more or less come to the same arrangements because they work. " Devolution " has foisted onto Wales a perverse political system which does not work - it is exactly the same non-political system which did not work before only now a further level of incompetent government has been added in order to bind us even more tightly into The United Kingdom. Wales is not about to detach itself from Britain and float away to The Caribbean to become Libertalia : The People in Wales do however need to fix our relationships with The People in Wales ... we can do that if The United Kingdom can accomodate within it innovations to its non-political system i.e. it is feasible to get The United Kingdom out of Wales whilst still being in within the polity of Great Britain e.g. The Principality of Wales could be in a relationship with it similar to The Isle of Man - proof positive in itself to refute the nay-sayers that it is not possible to do. ... Personally - I am willing to settle for a single afternoon in Cymru Rydd.: how about a picnic on Sully Island to raise Y Faner Wen whilst it the tide is in.?
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet another damned election - and here we are all in a daze :_The Democrats bewildering us within their mirror maze !_When did we forget in Wales our own Republican tradition ?_How did we forget to chorus " i'r maes ! " in our rendition -_Substituting " why Delilah ? " instead of singing La Marsellaise ?

Yet another damned election - and here we are all in a daze :_
The Democrats bewildering us within their mirrored maze !_
When did we forget in Wales forget our own Republican tradition ?_
How did we forget to chorus " i'r maes ! " in our rendition -_
Substituting " why Delilah ? " instead of singing La Marsellaise ?

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get more pleasure from fooling around myself - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5241#5241

- than watching them fool around : but there is hope - http://repwblic.informe.com/viewtopic.php?p=5237#5237

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39828550

General election 2017: Labour have to 'come out fighting'

The Labour party faces 'a huge challenge' over the remainder of the General Election campaign, Jeremy Corbyn has said. ... The Labour leader told supporters yesterday's local elections were "disappointing." ... Mr Corbyn said "too many fantastic councillors" had not been re-elected as the party lost 382 seats nationwide. ...

... The trouble I think is that Jeremy Corbyn is a truly political person and thus The People in Wales who have been indoctrinated by The Supporters of The United Kingdom for centuries into a blind fear of those who talk Common Sense have a deeply conditioned fear response towards such truly political people ... If they had not been so primed to think of Jeremy having horns and a tail and he were simply presented alongside Theresa May on an equal basis e.g. in a television debate he would look a lot better than her ... ah ... is that why she declined to do a television debate ? ...

Perhaps The BBC could teach The Demockerats in The World a lesson ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p033wsvg - ( BBC World Service )

- A look at how television has brought about the demise of the great platform speakers and how oratory is now more conversational and informal.

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I do not feel at all warm about this General Election : there seems to be absolutely no politics in it at all ... The Election In France is so bad The People in France have refused to talk about it in case it ruins Le Weekend ... I wonder what that font of wisdom - so often this week's portion - has to say about it ... no - I will not comment : but I did burst out laughing ...

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/little-enthusiasm-for-election-in-wales-1.437938

... The EU Referendum divided many who thought that they were like-minded : several of my friends have backed UKIP ... not to mention Friends ...

https://thefriend.org/article/countdown-to-polling-day

... mmm ... an influx of better educated politicos might just revive The Republicans in Britain and Ireland - but given the standards at universities can these make their mark - " X " - ?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/04/voter-registration-soars-students-backing-labour-corbyn-general-election

" ... More than nine out of 10 participating students (93%) who were entitled to vote had registered and most said they planned to use their vote on 8 June, offering some hope to the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn. ... "

... Now this is a very unfortunate comparison given what happened to Edward Heath ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/06/tories-course-gain-biggest-landslide-election-victory-seen-fifty/

Tories set for biggest vote share since Sir Edward Heath’s 1970 victory, poll reveals

... The Conservatives are on course to win their highest proportion of general election votes for almost 50 years, an opinion poll for The Sunday Telegraph has found. ... A survey of voters by ORB International this week found that 46 per cent support the Tories, while just 31 per cent back Labour. ...

... The fact that the headline news in all media is constantly like a horse-racing commentary points to The Establishment in London exploiting the well known effect that politically uninterested egotists with low self-esteem like to cast their votes in such a way as to associate themselves with those they believe will be the winners ... these are the sorts of people who ought not to be entitled to vote ... indeed if I was in charge of elections all those who cast votes would have their hands cut off for aiding and abetting The Crimes of The Democrats - and all those who get themselves elected should be executed directly after the results of their polls are declared - you got elected ? BANG ... who came in second ? BANG ... who came in - no, no - do not run away now - that is not part of the game : you are being very unsporting ... asking for a recount indeed ... but what the hell can we do with The Electoral Registration Officers ? ... Write them letters ?

There is a tendency in events like this being portrayed as like a war to have those who ought not to be entitled to vote treat it like an opportunity to start one - and Theresa May and those around her have notably played down the crowing up of their victory in the recent local elections ... but they still seem to be playing up " Strong and Stable Government " like ... uh ... Mussolini ? ... Keep an eye on that lady : she has already cut her hair shorter ... if it gets any shorter and she starts wearing inappropriately naval uniforms or boiler suits - and smoking cigars - become very wary ...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/listen-to-her-fans-and-you-d-think-theresa-was-bigger-than-one-direction-28s20zcvn

may 6 2017, 12:01am, the times - matt chorley

Listen to her fans and you’d think Theresa was bigger than One Direction

" ... I’ll whisper it — and don’t tell No 10 — but I think I might have deleted the email where everyone decided that Theresa May was wonderful. ... She’s not that good. She really isn’t. Or at least not as good as the polls and the pundits and the giddy vox-pops would have us believe. ... "

For a change The Daily Mail came up with a useful contribution - as used by their own journalists ... there is a picture of a ballot paper with crayons supplied for colouring in all of the boxes ... come to think of it - if voting is such a good thing why do The Democrats in Westminster not give us a few more ? ... That might be an election winner actually - Jeremy ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/prmts/article-4469104/FREE-Anti-stress-colouring-book.html

FREE inside every copy of this weekend's The Mail on Sunday, get a stunning 16-page Anti-stress colouring book, with exclusive designs by best-selling illustrator Christina Rose. ... The perfect excuse to escape from life's everyday distractions, these beautiful and intricate images are designed to help you find that bit of inner peace. ... Colouring can be enjoyed by anyone no matter what your age or creative ability, political or sexual orientation - simply enjoy yourself!

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