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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:06 am    Post subject: wise Reply with quote

Humans are inventive, so we are intelligent, but we are not wise. We have cleverly invented ways to destroy ourselves.

We use the internet created by human intelligence to spread the story that the world is literally run by shape shifting lizards. How can we be so smart and so dumb at the same time?
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am trying to remember what was said in this Something Understood programme about Truth - the bit about how Truth is not as attractive and exciting as Fiction so in order to get anybody to think about it we need to dress it up in entertaining stories. I am not so sure that Fiction can lead us to Truth but poetry whilst not being didactic can challenge the associations which we make between ideas and excite our imaginations to forge new links for us to look at things new ways

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08rp2sk - Something Understood : Truth

In which there is quoted Emily Dickinson's poem " Tell all the truth but tell it slant " -

Tell all the truth but tell it slant —
Success in Circuit lies
Too bright for our infirm Delight
The Truth's superb surprise
As Lightning to the Children eased
With explanation kind
The Truth must dazzle gradually
Or every man be blind —

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/search?q=truth

[ LOOKING FOR SOME QUOTES ABOUT TRUTH ]

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/58515

Truth - BY AFAA MICHAEL WEAVER

... That was not true,
because old truths
were now lies, I saw
families as human. ...

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/50386

When my love swears that she is made of truth - BY WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE

... When my love swears that she is made of truth,
I do believe her, though I know she lies,
That she might think me some untutored youth,
Unlearnèd in the world’s false subtleties. ...

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/45152

Astrophil and Stella 1: Loving in truth, and fain in verse my love to show -
BY SIR PHILIP SIDNEY

... But words came halting forth, wanting invention's stay;
Invention, Nature's child, fled step-dame Study's blows;
And others' feet still seem'd but strangers in my way.
Thus great with child to speak and helpless in my throes,
Biting my truant pen, beating myself for spite,
"Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write."

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/48609

Truth Serum - BY NAOMI SHIHAB NYE

... We boiled down the lies in another pan till they disappeared.
We washed that pan.

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/browse?contentId=18035

Truth - Jessica Nelson North

... Now stop your little ears with both your thumbs,
For here The Doubter comes ;
And up and down he will shortly declare
The world is dirt and skies are made of air.

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/browse?contentId=90848

Truth - Galway Kinnell

... You took a lamp and you opened the door,
What use is a lamp, it is raining, the day breaks.

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/browse?contentId=15753

A Truth about a Lie - Leonora Speyer

I lied, trusting you knew
I could not lie to you.
Beloved friend, I lied and am forgiven : but I
Cannot forgive that you believed my lie.

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The Glorious Day in Wales is now broken
But a question about it has never been spoken -
" Who broke it ? " - and that demands The Truth
About why we are acting and feeling like ruth :
For The Revolution in Wales was never begun.

dai repwblic = Dai Saw = David B Lawrence : the author asserts his moral right - not to sue for copyright "

[ " ruth " is an archaic word conveying pity, compassion, remorse, contrition, repentance, grief, distress - but I am playing here also on " Ruth " who is a character in The Bible who was being used by 19c Republicans in Wales to exhort those being persecuted for their adherence to Republicanism in the face of widespread prejudice and persecution to remain faithful to " The Good Old Cause." In The Bible Ruth gleans the fields and collects up all which is left after the harvest, so metaphorically in Republicanism in Wales " Ruth " was gathering up all that was left after the previous generation of 19c Republicans had been cut down by The United Kingdom in order to save the remaining seeds to sow future generations of The Republicans in Wales. In The Bible Ruth is the matriarch of The Royal House of David so metaphorically as a Republican figure she a matriarchal symbol for The Welsh Nation as The Royal House of Saint David. Now if you can not decide whether this is The Truth or Lies - do your research : a lot of what is contempted in Republicanism in Wales is to do with the prominence of poetry and Biblical allusion but this was necessary within the context of The United Kingdom in The 19c which persecuted all those which opposed that non-political system of a combined Church and State.]
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